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6495431 No.6495431 [Reply] [Original]

Alright Anon what retro solutions do we still need? We have flash carts, drive emulators and HDMI mods.

Pic related

>> No.6495541

>>6495431
A really good, solid PlayStation ODE.

>> No.6495549

>>6495541
don't think it's possible, some board modification will always be required

>> No.6495565

>>6495549
No problem with that at all, just ideally something with near 100% compatibility for games and peripherals.

>> No.6495694

>>6495541
dislike PSIO?

>> No.6496030

>>6495431
We really need something to stop zoomers from shitposting on retro boards.

>> No.6496372

>>6495694
closed source and I dislike the licensing practices of the firmware.

>>6495431
Memory card replacements

>> No.6496379

>>6495431
We need a way to double the resolution of PS1 games on original hardware

>> No.6496390

>>6496379
OSSC

>> No.6496391

>>6496379
That would require something with a bit more grunt, so probably nothing you can still run from the PS1 internal PSU. Also probably not worth the afford and the price.

>> No.6496575

>>6495431
New manufactured 5-1/4" floppies. Probably best to sell em unformatted so C64 and Apple2 and PC/XT and Atari800 people can all share. Yeah I know emulators exist, but some people still have their original drives.

>> No.6496615

>>6496575
In theory you could make your own.

>get sheet of mylar
>cut it into disk shape
>get can of iron oxide powder
>apply adhesive
>apply powder
>profit?

>> No.6496640

A way to play light gun games without a CRT

>> No.6496647

>>6495565
PSIO exists.

>> No.6496656

>>6496640
i saw someone made something for that on kickstarter a year or two ago but the farthest he got was for emulators he was going to work on console compat later
cant remember what he called it though

>> No.6496853

>>6496640
There is Aimtrak but you're stuck using emulators, can't remember if there might have been PS1/PS2 adapters though. Great for things like House of the Dead

>> No.6496864

>>6496647
But it sucks and so do the developers.

>> No.6496945

>>6496656
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sindenlightgun/the-sinden-lightgun
found it

>> No.6496950

>>6495431
N64 MSU-1

>> No.6497371

>>6496575
It would be better to devote those resources to dealing with the root problem. For less then the cost of a cup of coffee you can provide an autistic child with the medicine he needs.

>>6496615
You don't even need to do that. You can buy the correct substrate material already coated with the the correct coating material and simply cut it to the size you need.

>> No.6497381

>>6496372
Have the Chinamen made a clone PSIO yet?

>> No.6497394

>>6497381
Yeah, but it's somehow not any cheaper.

>> No.6497737

The Dreamcast has a perfect GDEMU, but what it I still want to play my GD ROMs while avoiding the numerous failing GD ROM drives that I have to keep scavenging to keep my Dreamcast from dying?

We need a GD ROM drive replacement that is drop-in, fail-safe, and will expand the Dreamcast's life significantly.

>> No.6497774

>>6497737
First, GDEMU is far from perfect. You feel for the meme and parroted bullshit. Second, it's not open source so an alternative that is is a very good idea. As with most ODEs, one that doesn't require removing the original drive and lets you switch between the two is also a good idea. A replacement drive is pure autism.

>> No.6497893

>>6497774
>one that doesn't require removing the original drive and lets you switch between the two is also a good idea.
It's pure autism to keep the drive if you can swap it out for something superior.

>> No.6497904

>>6497893
I remember an anon arguing that ODEs aren't valid if you're looking for a genuine experience because there's no motor and thus no noise coming from the spindle.
never underestimate the power of autism.

>> No.6497925

>>6496640
Couldn’t someone use a wiimote and sensor bar in some way

>> No.6497943

>>6495431
Replacement SNES shells. No idea why people haven't made them but I guess they would be more expensive than the ugly $10 chink gameboy shells.

>> No.6498009

>>6497943
Actually I've talked to Retro Game Restore and he has considered it. He did his PCE replacement shell run and barely broke even. He considered a replacement SNES shell run that would be universal for any cart.

>> No.6498026

>>6496945
Indiegogo campaign is also live ATM.

>> No.6498032

>>6498009
I imagine this wouldn't be too hard, the obstructions on the SFC/SNES are internal plastic tabs. I'd just like to see something to replace the overwhelming amount of hideous and yellowed SNES shells

>> No.6498056

>>6497371
>You can buy the correct substrate material already coated with the the correct coating material and simply cut it to the size you need.
Making a disk jacket is a bigger problem desu. For 5.25" disks it's pretty simple, but 3.5" ones use a hard shell with a metal door. Today with flash emulators you really don't need physical floppies anymore (or dealing with finicky 35 year old disk drives), but maybe some purists would still go for it.

>> No.6498058

>>6495541
Any progress on any? PSISO seems shady with its firmware.

>> No.6498086

>>6495431
Better (or at least clone) wavebird receptors.

>> No.6498091

>>6497943
This, but with every console. Tried looking for replacement n64 shells on ebay and just the black one cost as much as a working console.

>> No.6498096

>>6498086
You mean like the Xbox one controllers?

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6498121

>>6497893
And since nothing superior exists you're pissing in the wind

>>6497904
Not an iusse if you use the Authentic Sound Perfect Immersion Emulator. A mod for GDEMU that accurately reproduces the drive sounds using on on board speaker.

>> No.6498126

>>6495431
Newly manufactured CRTs. That's a fairly huge one and not very easy to solve.

>> No.6498193

>>6498056
There's not much reason to reproduce things that are are still relatively cheap and common. But there's floppy media that's very hard to find and probably worth reproducing if you need it. For example to test/repair/reproduce the hardware required to use it without risking original media.

>> No.6498203

>>6498193
>But there's floppy media that's very hard to find and probably worth reproducing if you need it
Sure, there's weird stuff like hard sectored floppies, but none of the commonly collected retro systems use those.

>> No.6498212

>>6498126
B&W CRTs are simple and you can probably make those in your garage. Color tubes, no fucking way.

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6498349

>>6498026
really wanted one during the kickstarter but i had no disposable income
definitely dropping some dosh on this gogo for two recoil guns
october cant come soon enough i always wanted to beat area 51 and octobers my birth month so its the perfect gift to me

>> No.6498405

>>6497381
the clones are stuck on an ancient firmware, and that anon you replied to is obviously having a hateboner at cybdyn (psio-makers) because of them locking firmwares to the hardware.

>>6498121
>add a noctua-fan to make DC quieter
>add a A.S.P.I.E. for genuine and soulful disc-noise
peak comfy

>>6496575
there are floppy-drive-emulators, so meh. moveable parts are bad.

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6498502

>>6498203
>the NES and GB didn't use floppies

>> No.6498548

>>6498502
wow I haven't seen this image in like 15 years

>> No.6498594

>>6497925
Homebrew NES emulators on the wii already have that function.

>> No.6498605

One thing I would like to add is Nintendo and sega bringing back repair services for classic consoles such as the NES and SNES. Even a means to purchase refurbushed classic consoles and game cartridges officially without having to resort to risk paying for a crap product on ebay. Virtual console is fine and all, but it doesnt have every game and n64 games dont look they way they originally did, even with a crt.

>> No.6498606

>>6498605
If retro gaming was a niche thing than virtual console wouldnt have been as popular as it was. A lot of people like using the original hardware for certain games, and I think selling refurbished versions of these consoles would benefit nintendo greatly.

>> No.6498615

>>6498605
my dad worked for Digital back in the day and they had a policy which was essentially "It doesnt matter what it is or where you bought it, we will service it." it turns out it was a huge waste of money, needing all the equipment to service legacy machines was expensive and the time it took to fix the really old stuff was pretty high. point to that story is that something like that would be a money pit or prohibitively expensive for the consumer. even for someone like Nintendo, who would only do their own hardware, would still have to set up repair centers, manufacture parts and train people on legacy hardware. it's a nice idea but I dont see it happening ever

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6498732

>>6498096
What? No, i mean an alternative for this fucker.

I've encountered so many Wavebird controllers without it, and then some including it but not working properly, it's sad.

Or at least a retro receiver for modern wireless controllers (now we can talk about the xbox one or the ps4)

But anyways, I just realized this isn't retro.

>> No.6498880

>>6496864
works on my machine

>> No.6499643

>>6498732
predicting a replacement for pic related will come soon.

>> No.6499663

>>6496030
/thread

>> No.6499813

>>6498605
That'd be retarded. People could get their shit fixed and use it for another 25 years instead of having to buy new VC versions every 5 years.

>>6498615
It's a shame you don't spend more time with your dad and are unable to learn from his wisdom. It's not "prohibitively expensive for the consumer" when people are paying hundreds of dollars for mods/repairs as it is now. There are valid reasons Nintendo doesn't do this but most of the ones you give aren't that.

>>6498732
Both exist but since you've announced yourself as a zoomer who wants to use them as excuses to shitpost off topic you won't get any useful information from me.

>> No.6500126

>>6495431
Ligthguns that work well with lcd's, there are now ones that work but they are not as precise as the ones working with crt's.

>> No.6500159

>>6500126
The new ones are a lot more precise. The original hardware ones with CRTs are limited to 320 resolution. There are 4-8x more pixels for modern ones to target.

>> No.6500178

>>6496615
>profit?
Market as artisan crafted.

>> No.6500192

Universal floppy disk drive that you can use with your Apple/Commodore/Atari/etc with an adapter cable (like those joysticks you can use cross platform.j

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6500310

>>6499813
right bro, spending millions reestablishing manufacturing plants for parts and training technicians for a niche market that'll never earn enough to break even is definitely not a valid reason at all. how stupid of me

>> No.6500361

>>6495431
No! There are already too many retro solutions. Upscalers, Raspberry Pis, RetroArch, CRT vs. not-CRT. I'm just a lapsed retro gamer who held on to his childhood games and doesn't know the best way to experience anything anymore because everyone's into the newest meme device/software/doodad and I just want to be able to play my old games again.

>> No.6500380

>>6500361
It's really simple. Old machine with your old cables? Retrotink. Old machine with new cables for nicest picture? OSSC.
Done.

>> No.6500564

>>6500310
>right bro, i'm a clueless fuck so my made up bullshit is important, mommy told me so
cringed and zoompilled

>> No.6501536

>>6500564
>no argument

>> No.6501708

>>6501536
>no argument
the death cry of a failing zoomer

>> No.6501727

Stupid PS1 TV question, seems like the best thread for it: I was playing MGS1 with composite video on an HDTV (previous TV had component ports but died, this TV's a cheap Costco one bought within 30 minutes of that) and I felt like I was having more trouble making out dark areas than before. I started Xenogears and felt like that too, are HDTV's bad at showing dark composite signals or is there something PS1-specific going on?

>> No.6501754

>>6501708
>still no argument

>> No.6501775

>>6501727
Go through all the tv settings. Turn off eco mode, set hdmi black levels to auto, turn off contrast enhancement/dynamic contrast . Comb through all settings and eventually the "crushed blacks" will go away. Factory settings are fucking jokes. Let us know if you find out which option fixed it.

>> No.6501782

>>6501727
In general you don't want to be pumping 240p PS1 games straight into a modern flat-panel. Nine times out of ten they mistake 240p for 480i and fuck up the signal for you. I'd strongly advise investing in a Retrotink or OSSC.

>> No.6501798

>>6501782
Anyone see how those TCL roku tvs handle old consoles? I remember mine had composite. Just checked youtube and was shocked there was no videos of it using composite. The picure was actually very good for the price with low input lag. Swapped it out after someone cracked it.

>> No.6501803

>>6500380
What about the new retrotink pro?

>> No.6501875

>>6501798
Seconding this, that's exactly the TV I'm using (again, purchased immediately after my old one broke because they're like $200).

>> No.6501991

>>6501875
>>6501798
I'll hook my SNES up to it and see in a sec anons

>> No.6502120
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6502120

>>6501991
It's garbage
It has really nasty artifacts around everything, especially text. It's not unplayable but I wouldn't want to use it outside of a pinch.
tink2x does a much better job with the composite

>> No.6502159

New Wonderswan screen
Improved neogeo pocket screen
A way to convert an old tv to a vector monitor, some progress has been made on this

>> No.6502160

>>6497774
>First, GDEMU is far from perfect
Wouldn't say "far".
What are your issues with it? Other than it not leaving space for an optical drive.

>> No.6502171

>>6498605
>>6498615
>>6499813
>>6500310
A workaround for this might be to have Nintendo certified repair shops. Keep the work offloaded as it is now, but vet the repair shops and hand out little Nintendo seal of quality stickers to them.

>> No.6502264

>>6502120
I'm also seeing the term "crushed blacks" a lot wrt cheaper HDTV's, sadly I'm not in a position to go buying TV's to better display old games.

When the older TV died it happened suddenly with a pop, does that sound more like a fuse or capacitor? I still have it around but I'm not a repairman or anything.

>> No.6502321

>>6502264
Fuses do make a pop noise when they go out usually. Only real way to know for sure is to open it up and check.

>> No.6502325

>>6499813
What youtuber did you get your opinions from?

>> No.6503161

>>6502160
You wouldn't say that unless you had tested it with hundreds of games. Something the person who made it failed to do. The menu is pretty shit and takes forever to load if you have hundreds of games. There's an alternative that solves some problems but it's also closed source. Basic shit like a header for LEDs was left out. Not the end of the world but another example of one of the many improvements that could be made.

>>6502171
Might work. Nintendo and others have teamed up with distributors to do mods/repairs in the past. Spare parts are still a problem though.

>>6502325
Imagine being this buttblasted

>> No.6503229

>>6495431
The one I can't believe hasn't happened yet is replacement shells for a snes. They yellow, they get brittle and crack. I'd love a clear SNES, or even funtastic colors.

>> No.6503237

>>6498009
The PCE usually doesn't have shells go to shit like SNES, also the market for PCE stuff is minute when compared to SNES. I though his shell was bad assed, but my PCE has a perfect shell, no point in destroying good original hardware IMO. I have half a dozen SNES that look like they are coated in rusty piss and half of those are brittle and/or cracked.

>> No.6503248

>>6500361
So buy an original system and the flash cart to go with it. Find a late model crt. Play the games. If you're wanting youtube points, get hdretrovision for a little better picture.

If you wan't something to hook to a modern tv that plays just like your old systems and are at least able to pour piss out of a boot, MISTER is a good solution.

>> No.6503262

>>6495431
>need
We don't need any of that per se.
But...Cloud retro gaming like spotify but for /vr/.

A NetBSD OS customised for /vr/ gaming on any hardware, retro or modern. A retro OS that does away with device driver problems , plus options to virtualise any retro PC/Mac OS.

>> No.6503290

>>6503262
>But...Cloud retro gaming like spotify but for /vr/.
I don't understand the appeal. Roms are everywhere, even on archive.org. There are all kind of top 10, hidden g3mz lists, etc. Why would you want this? Not trying to be an ass, I just don't get the appeal.

>> No.6503496

>>6500380
>It's really simple. Old machine with your old cables? Retrotink. Old machine with new cables for nicest picture? OSSC.
For a while I thought this would be the solution to my problems. Less so OSSC than Retrotink since the former would involve console modding and I'm hopeless with a soldering iron. But when I got to reading about Retrotink on a /vr/ thread I learned that the manufacturer had stopped making the Retrotink 2x (or was it the Pro)?, and... I literally just Googled it mid-sentence and it looks like both are in stock. So... I guess don't know what I'm talking about.

I'm going to watch some reviews of Retrotink on YouTube. Thanks.
>>6503248
MiSTER does look like a perfect solution for 8-bit and 16-bit consoles. If only it was an actual product and not a DIY solution.

>> No.6503502

>>6503290
>I just don't get the appeal.
i'm just putting it out there. i don't see the appeal of being a console fag shilling for MetalJebusRoks and ebay, but here we are in a board full of those unironical collector fags.

>> No.6503531

>>6499663
I recommend adding "NOOOOOO IT'S BEEN OVER 200 YEARS WHY ISN'T THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION PART OF THE RENAISSANCE YET?!" to the board sticky.

From there, I'd kindly ask for a few more janitors or something

>> No.6503548

>>6503496
>If only it was an actual product and not a DIY solution.
Some of its strenght is being DIY and open source. Instead of buying a single core console from Analoge, this has most anything you would want, including neo geo, sega cd, and pc engine cd, for some oddballs. Getting any one of those systems in working order can put you at or over the price of a mister. I get what you mean, but it's pretty damn easy to work with and vendors readily sell accessories at this point. If you have more cash than skill (this isn't meant to be an insult) maybe the analog products and a flash cart (or jailbreak them) would be for you. They cost a lot, but it's hdmi out of the box. They are pricey but pretty good as far as accuracy goes.

>> No.6503550

>>6497925
there is something out there for this, but it isn't perfect

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzIPGpKo3Ag

not gonna try explaining it, he does a fine job in the video and I'm not savvy enough so I won't pretend. Interesting stuff.

>> No.6503563

>>6502171
that's a nice idea, but they wouldn't bother. The matter is, they don't really benefit from servicing older products, especially ones that haven't been on the market for decades. Even just doing certification requires someone who knows the products well, which at this point someone would have to 1) hire that person, 2) vet that they know their shit, and 3) pay them handsomely for being the rare person who knows that stuff today.

The dynamic has been the same for decades; As products drop out of new sales, they drop into the hands of enthusiasts, people who will accrue and catalog more knowledge and experience on their design and repair than any manufacturer could ever hope to meet. Whether it's Olds and Studebaker or TRS-80 and C64, the fans ARE the best resource. If you really want certs, then work with the fan community to build it. Don't bother asking companies to touch shit they did decades ago.

>> No.6503575

>>6495431

OP I think you need a camera from the 21st century

>> No.6503668

>>6495431
N64 replacement stick modules that aren't dogshit

>> No.6503902

>>6503161
>The menu is pretty shit and takes forever to load if you have hundreds of games
There's a program to prebuild that list so it doesn't need to generate it at launch.
The menu itself being shit is subjective. It's just a simple list of games. Don't know what more you want from it.
I've tested it with a fair few number of games, and so far they've all worked fine. Even played online with a dreampi, and no issues.

>> No.6504982

>>6495431
>Alright Anon what retro solutions do we still need?
new crts

>> No.6505162

>>6503902
The menu builder is buggy as shit, won't work with many SD cards, closed source and is Win/Mac only. I guess it worked for the one SD you have and the handful of games you tested so you can confirm it's all good. It's shocking how few people have actually tried enough games to find stuff that don't work. Turns out the emufags were right all along. Most hardwarefags don't even play with their plastic.

>> No.6505939

>>6498548
Well we are on a retro board

>> No.6507114

Modular n64 controllers so you can swap out the d pad or the c buttons for an analog stick depending on the game. Might make shooters easier to play

>> No.6507470

>>6505162
>I guess it worked for the one SD you have and the handful of games you tested so you can confirm it's all good.
Bit abrasive. I just picked an SD card that was confirmed to work well with it, since I needed a new one anyway, and played more than a handful of games.
What specific games are you having issues with?
The menu builder is buggy as shit, I'll grant you that. You have to wipe the card and rebuild from scratch every time. Would be nicer if it were open source, too.

>> No.6507960

>>6507470
Sorry facts make you uncomfortable. But the root of the problem is that most people test a few games and claim it works with everything. In reality it doesn't work with any games. Since you have to remove the drive it only works with rips. So maybe it runs a selfboot with things removed/patched but not a gdi. Unless you're able to create accurate rips that work you're not going to resolve these issues. There was a thread on assember where people were actually testing and documenting problems but I couldn't find it in 30 seconds on google so can't be assed to give details.
There's an open source menu builder but it's linux cli and too complicated for most people to use. The GUI one has some very nice features but doesn't work with a lot of SD cards, even ones that work perfectly fine with the GDEMU. I don't even know what you'd have to do to fuck that up, but somehow he managed. Again, the root of the problem is the one guy who wrote it tested it with his one SD card and assumed it worked with everything.

>> No.6508054

>>6497943
because it's illegal

>> No.6508076

>>6507960
IIRC the usbgdrom will play .gdi images.

>> No.6508228

>>6508054
They don't have to copy the design 1:1

>> No.6509026

>>6495431
it would be nice to be able to play carts on a pc or laptop

>> No.6509273

>>6504982
Or alternatively, new 4:3 LCDs with variable refresh and the fastest pixel response times possible.

>> No.6509358

>>6495694
More like psio shit

>> No.6509481

>>6509026
>it would be autistic to play carts on a pc or laptop
>it would be nice to be old enough to remember when this was done and /vr/ was jizzing it's collective pants over it

>> No.6509508

Proper sized backlit LCDs for the Wonderswan and Neo Geo Pocket Color. Proper refresh rate for Wonderswan is important too.

>> No.6509938

>>6507960
>but not a gdi
But it does.
Nearly all my games are in gdi format.
I'll search around for the thread you're talking about though.

>> No.6509950

>>6508054
Is it? People make shells for raspberry pis and such that are scaled clones of older consoles.

>> No.6509967

>>6498548

Bullshit it was still used heavily until at least 2011

>> No.6509975

>>6495431
>HDMI mods.
We don't need this, and the other two are debatable

>> No.6510938

>>6508076
It can. So can GDEMU. It just has problems with many of them.
>>6509938
Why is reading comprehension such a rare skill these days? I didn't say GDEMU couldn't use GDIs. I gave an example of GDEMU apologist cope. Where it can "run a game" but only a modified version of the game. A problem that makes it little better than playing burned disc. It's well known that it can't run many GDIs. And educated guess would be at least 50% of the last redump gdi set. You won't have to search far to learn that. The list that was being put together on assembler was documenting which games there were no dumps of that GDEMU could run regardless of settings. Presumably these could then be redumped or existing dumps converted to a gdi format GDEMU could handle or analyzed so the GDEMU firmware could be fixed.

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6511329

>>6495431
somebody fuckin buy up those trays of VSA-100s sitting around on Ebay and turn em into new manufactured Voodoo4s already. Somebody did it for fuckin FX5500s, apparently there was enough market out there for that to be financially viable despite literally nobody anywhere giving a shit about Geforce FX. Hell there's at least one factory still crapping out 8mb ATI Rage Pro cards to this day, I think they found a crate of the chips in like a tomb or something.

>> No.6511345

>>6510938
>So maybe it runs a selfboot with things removed/patched but not a gdi
>but not a gdi
You literally did say that.
And I can't find a complaint about compatibility anywhere else on the internet. Give me a link, or a title to test myself, or there's nothing more to talk about.

>> No.6511371

Something like the n64 gamrshark, but smaller and it only runs the no-AA hack for any game plugged into it. They could market it as something that sharpens up the image.

>> No.6511485

>>6509481
when was this done? name?

>> No.6511492

>>6511345
>i literally can't into reading comprehension
Sorry you're retarded?
>I can't into google
Clearly. A very common zoomer problem. There's nothing to talk about because you don't, can't, understand the problem. A "title" isn't a specific rip that GDEMU can/can't run.
As I said, it's a well known fact that GDEMU can't run many (~50%) of the most recent redump gdi set. If you're too retarded to find this information anywhere else on the internet you can simply pick a few at random and try them and you'll find one that doesn't work pretty fast.

>> No.6511587

>>6511485
Ages ago. Retrode.

>> No.6511835

>>6511587
retrode dumps the game to its ram/storage before it's made available to the user. the game doesn't constantly stream from the cart and it's actually really slow at dumping.

>> No.6511843

>>6511371
quite easy to do with an FPGA, but pcba costs are prohibitive. especially with small prototype runs the boards can be hundreds of dollars each

>> No.6511848

>>6511843
also sourcing the connectors, especially in volume, and in a format that a factory can use with their assembly machines, is problematic

>> No.6512062

>>6511492
No, you're either complaining about shit based on faulty memories or you're incapable of making your complaints coherent. You originally said "it can't run any games because it can't run gdis" which is now backpeddled to "it can't run 50% of the most recent redump". Which, again, I can't find any info on.
And you can't provide a single link to back any of this up.
Afaik there are only a scant few japanese games that aren't in gdi format, and it may have issues running those. But I don't read japanese so I haven't bothered to try.
The only games I have that aren't in gdi format, from the most recent redump I could find in 2019, are things where content was added rather than removed, like the doa2 compilation, or homebrew/leaked shit like half life or whatever.
Anyways. Gdemu is fine. It's not perfect. Like you said the interface is bare bones, and the menu creating software is trash. But once you have it up and running it's great. Plays games. Plays them better than my broken optical drive does.

>> No.6512126

>>6511843
The gameshark was never that expensive. why would this cost so much more?

>> No.6512142

>>6512126
because the gameshark was made in mass quantity.

>> No.6512180

>>6498349
dat kitty tho

>> No.6512182

>>6499643
how working at 8bitdo going so far? Any news for a black Zero2 anytime soon ?

>> No.6512212

>>6512180
I hope he had a good birthday

>> No.6512326

>>6512142
is that why the super64 and gchd are so expensive? I always just assumed they were overcharging just because they could.

>> No.6512701

>>6511835
Wrong, ignorant and cope

>> No.6512719
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>>6508054

>> No.6512736

>>6512326
>I always just assumed they were overcharging just because they could.
They are.
>super64
The RAD2X cables are essentially the same thing and they sell for less than half the price
>gchd
You can get a GCPlug from China for $40. Sure, the DAC for the analog output adds a bit of cost, but not $110.

>> No.6512785

>>6512736
>The RAD2X cables are essentially the same thing and they sell for less than half the price
Yeah I preordered them the other day. They're a third of the price if you don't count shipping fees.

>You can get a GCPlug from China for $40. Sure, the DAC for the analog output adds a bit of cost, but not $110.
I was also looking at that on Aliexpress. I might get one if I plan on playing gamecube games in the basement, but for now I have the wii in my room with a hyperkin cable

>> No.6512815

>>6512701
imagine being this stupid, you probably don't even have a retrode. get cucked

>> No.6513712

>>6512062
>And you can't provide a single link to back any of this up.
For kicks, I'm going to double down on this post and say that by "you can't" etc, I mean:
You *l i t e r a l l y* can't. And that this doesn't exist on the internet. I'm curious as fuck now.

>> No.6514075

>>6512815
>i am this stupid, i don't even have a retrode. i will never get cucked because incel

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>>6512815

>> No.6516113

>HDMI Mods

why not just buy an HDMI cable that's compatible with the console?

>> No.6516140

>>6498594
Yeah, I play Duck Hunt and Wild Gunman using that.
An SNES emulator has that option too, and it's how I played Yoshi's Safari. It also has MSU-1 option too.

>> No.6516182

I wish there was something like the Monotech NuXT but for 486 systems

>> No.6516896

>>6516113
>this is your brain on zoom

>> No.6517450

>>6509273
not if they're TN pieces of shit

>> No.6517548

A sega saturn flashcart that plugs into the cartridge slot, so you aren't forced to remove the fucking disc drive.

>> No.6517570

>>6516113

This actually genuinely made me fucking mad.

>> No.6517679

>>6517570
tee hee

>> No.6517734

>>6516113
shitposts aside, I've never understood the people who have lots of different consoles and then want to do HDMI mods for each and every one of them. It makes far more sense to have a single HDMI solution (such as OSSC or framemeister) than to independently mod every single console for HDMI output

>> No.6517767

>>6517734
The picture will be higher quality if it stays digital all the way without ever being converted to analog. I wouldn't say it's worth it, but there is a benefit to doing the HDMI mods.

>> No.6518174

Are there any consoles besides the n64 that actually need to be hdmi or rgb modded?

>> No.6518182

>>6518174
What do you mean "need"? None of them "need" to be modded if you're content with composite or RF.

>> No.6518192

>>6518182
I mean in the n64s case, theres a lot of blur that if you want to remove it, you need to mod the console. Theres also no built in rgb output like the snes had.

>> No.6518195

>>6496379
You don’t understand hardware very well if you think this is a possibility. Something like Mednafen software mode in Retroarch is the best you’re going to get.

>> No.6518197

>>6498732
My wave bird receiver started going on the fritz about three years ago, shit sucks I had kept it in good condition since 2003

>> No.6518205

>>6518195
I have retroarch on my ps classic and theres a high resolution mode. Is that the same thing youre talking about?

>> No.6518248

>>6518195
You don't understand hardware very well if you think it's not a possibility. Some day FPGA creators and modders will replace the PS1's internal GPU with a more powerful one.

>> No.6518254

>>6518248
That's no longer original hardware, dumbass.

>> No.6518767

>>6495431
A perfect CRT simulator.

>> No.6518786
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6518786

>>6518254
>adding new hardware to original hardware means the original hardware isn't original any more

>> No.6518868

>>6518786
retarded and zoompilled

>> No.6518909

>>6518868
>literal zoomer projects after getting btfo'd

>> No.6518943

>>6503262
I think a cool little thing would be something that allows you to easily make net play rooms and play in a browser would be neat. Make it decentralized so you make a room, upload the rom, share the link, and then anyone with that link can join in and chat and play
There's probably some legal mumbo jumbo that youd have to work around that but I think it could be neat for things like Goof Troop netplay

>> No.6519135

>>6518909
>no u
Back to le tiktok kiddo. Also, not the anon you were trying to blow. Just an adult who saw a stupid child embarrassing himself and laughed it it.

>> No.6519204

>>6495431
I ain't reading all these shitty posts. Just give me a wireless N64 controller that don't suck already and no one gets hurt.

>> No.6520783

>>6519204
Im assuming the hyperkin admiral sucks, then? Whats so bad about it?

>> No.6520839

>>6520783
>hyperkin admiral
d-pad placement sucks can't play WWF games with it. Also it's too fucking small.

>> No.6521490

>>6520839
also no rumble

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6521568

>>6495431
CRTs
Someone should start making them again

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6521575

>>6521568
Agreed

>> No.6521582

>>6520839
>Actually playing fighting games
The Admiral is the best solution we have for a wireless n64 controller at the moment. Nobody plays WWF.

>> No.6521590

>>6495431
Still waiting for the Satiator

>> No.6521613

>>6521590
Me too. Getting worried.

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>>6521568
>>6521575
I have been messing around with a framemeister and HDMI mods and whatever. I was even considering buying a Mega SG when it came out, but once I saw the videos on how much you had to fiddle around to get the sound to be "correct" and the prospect of having to update it regularly with firmware revisions, I ended up buying a region-modded Mega Drive 1 instead and hooked it up to my monitor. Boom: Plug n Play.

Of course I have the privilege of having RGB scart as the standard in my end of the world, but it really shouldn't be this whole circus to play retro games. It should just be convenient.

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>>6521782
>RGB scart
>PVM
>region-modded Mega Drive 1
>HDMI mod
>framemeister

>> No.6521816

>>6521782
Pretty!

>> No.6522279 [DELETED] 

reported and saged let me bump off my last remaining comment on this website and then I will stop posting forever

4

>> No.6522429

>>6521590
>>6521613
People still gives money to that scam artist lol
Is people give him money, for nothinf
why he deliver say product?
also you already have mode, fenir, rhea and phoebe, what make you think the satiator would be betther than a real ode replacement and not in the same crappy level as psio parallel port garbage!

>> No.6522549

>>6521795
Delicious butthurt of the poorfag

>> No.6522551

>>6522429
I own them and they are not that good t b h

>> No.6522664

>>6509273
Not cheap and you'll waste screen space but:
Get a low latency 16:9 1440p gaming monitor with HDMI input.
Get a Retrotink 2x for hooking in most consoles.
Lowest latency you can hope for and 1440p is integer scaling for 240p and 480i. You'll need something else if you intend to do 480p, though.

>> No.6523128

>>6521590
Voultar
@Voultar
·
Nov 7, 2019
Look at this! A Saturn ODE in development that doesn't have a mindless patreon to "fund development" for 30 years.

- You have my support!

>> No.6524392 [DELETED] 

>>6495431
inline composite video simulator :^)

>> No.6524662

>>6518767
this should be doable in VR.

>> No.6525065

>>6524662
You will immediately cease and not continue to access the site if you are under the age of 18.

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6525365

>>6521568
pic related cure my crt autism

>> No.6525369

Is it true that the PS1 disk drive interface is so complex that you can't even simulate it in FPGA?

>> No.6525375

>>6525369
you probably could but parts of it are located within the motherboard itself.

>> No.6525385

>>6525375
I think the problem is that modchips are so easy to install, they kill any interest in alternatives.
Maybe in another 5 years when most drives really start dying.

>> No.6525424

>>6525365
NOOOOOOOO YOU CANT JUST PUT RETRO GAMES ON A LCD WITH PERFECT INTEGER SCALING
RETRO GAMES NEED CRT OVERSCAN AND GEOMETRY ISSUES TO GIVE THEM SOUL

>> No.6526319

>>6496945
Got two on order and a plan to build a stand with a tv on the wall in front of it, think of the meet buck hunter game arcade setup. Really hope it works

>> No.6526330

We really need a better way to play older directx titles on modern OSs. Site you got directx wrappers but tons of games don't work and ones that do have annoying artifacts. Also early accelerated sound solutions like EAX is a complete no go on Win10. I know you can get it to show enabled in menus in some games but it doesn't really work at all when compared to real hardware. Draken funky reverb effect comes to mind.

Also, speaking or draken, you can't get the Matrox exclusive graphic effects to work at all on modern OSs. You can get fancy water effect on Matrox cards on proper hardware. I'm sure other games do this as well.

>> No.6526898

>>6495431
Retroarch and an Xbox controller

>> No.6527341

>>6526330
We need something that learns youngins how to use old computers

>> No.6527427

>>6527341
DOSBox tweaking helps. Otherwise the best way is to just build a retro PC rig. consolefags can fuck off.
>>6525065
im older than moot n hero, dick wrangler.

>> No.6527591

>>6526898
mah accuracy!
noh authentic xperinz!
mAH PVMEME CRT

>> No.6527617

>>6527591
>NOOOO NOT MY SCANLINERINOS
>EMULATORS WERENT WHAT THE POOR DEVS INTENDED

>> No.6528673

>>6527427
>this should be doable in VR.
>im older than moot n hero, dick wrangler.
I thought downies didn't live that long

>> No.6530290

I need the other module for the SNES Tee-V Golf accessory. I think its called the True Golf Classics.

>> No.6530418

>>6495431
I would really like an ISA card that would emulate floppy/hd/cd devices. Select images at boot or with a program. Config a hotkey to cycle mounted images.

>> No.6530723

>>6530418
Why ISA? What system are you going to run CD games on that doesn't have PCI? Also, all those emulators are available. The only thing missing is the image selector you want. It wouldn't be impossible to do but I doubt anyone with the skills to do it would waste the time.
What would be nice are some ODEs for the less popular CD interfaces, and of course open source versions of everything.

>> No.6531828

>>6521568
>>6521575
>Agreed
Agreed

>> No.6532403

>>6530723
>Why ISA? What system are you going to run CD games on that doesn't have PCI?
Pre-Pentium systems are pretty much lack PCI and early Pentiums still have ISA. Once you reach PCI only boards, software emulation is viable.

>Also, all those emulators are available.
Where can I find a hardware CD emulator suitable for gaming?

>> No.6532614

>>6532403
OK. I see the thought process. Putting aside that many 486 mobos have PCI, what CD games won't run on a P1 or greater?
"le what x should i use for y" as a question as old as time. We haven't even established that "gaming" is. So far I've got: CD games that won't run on a Pentium and need only ISA. In that case it'd be any hardware CD emulator that can work in a machine with 1-2 ISA slots. ie, 1 for CGA+PC speaker+headphones or 1 for VGA and 1 for a sound card. Take your pick.

>> No.6533476

>>6522429
>already have mode
No we don't. The terraonion mode for saturn didn't ship yet

>> No.6534486

>>6532614
This is mostly to satisfy a need of mounting CD images in a DOS environment. Once you have IDE/ATAPI emulation you world get HD emulation for free. Floppy emulation would just be a cherry on top.

I could be happy with a PCI solution but I figured ISA world be a better fit because it would:
A) cover more of the targeted era of machines. Not just 486 and Pentiums but earlier. A drop-in replacement for any machine with an FDC/IDE combo card.

B) be easier to develop. The ISA bus is less complex than PCI and IDE just an adaptation of the ISA bus.

I just don't see what benefits PCI is providing. Like I said, once you have PCI only boards, existing software solution are probably better.

>> No.6534496

>>6496945
>https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sindenlightgun/the-sinden-lightgun

Anyone used samco?
https://www.hackster.io/samco/samco-arduino-powered-ir-light-gun-mouse-05d110#:~:text=The%20SAMCO%20is%20a%20Namco,flat%20screen)%20TV%2Fmonitors.

dude is selling unpopulated pcbs on ebay for like $10. microcontrollers are cheap though. seemed too good to be true and i never see anyone mention it.

>> No.6534501

>>6534496
answered my own question. seems to have limited applications:
>Gun currently works with Mame in RetroPie (for Raspberry Pi), PSX Beetle (Windows) and PCSX2 (Windows).

still cool for how cheap it is

>> No.6534573

>>6495431
We really, really need a CRT simulador. A really good one, with blur, bloom, NTSC/PAL color Gamut, shadowmask/apperture grille, but with an upscaling for modern tvs.

>> No.6534915

>

>> No.6535108

>>6534486
The benefit of PCI is that you don't have to develop anything. You just buy it because it already exists. FDD and HDD emulators that work with 8-bit ISA also exist. The only thing missing is an 8-bit ISA solution for playing those zero CD games that only run on 8086 machines. As with anything the best way to approach this is to define your goals before deciding how to achieve them. This saves you the trouble of coming up with convoluted solutions to problems that don't exist.

>> No.6535201

List of things I want chinks to clone
>better everdrive carts
>ossc pro (steals the prototype or something)
>saturn ode
Chine needs to stop coofing and get on it.

>> No.6535203

>>6534915
jannies forced bump limited the thread bro

>> No.6535254

>>6535108
>The benefit of PCI is that you don't have to develop anything. You just buy it because it already exists.
I asked before but where can I find a hardware CD emulator for a PC running DOS, whether through PCI or anything else?

>The only thing missing is an 8-bit ISA solution for playing those zero CD games that only run on 8086 machines. As with anything the best way to approach this is to define your goals before deciding how to achieve them. This saves you the trouble of coming up with convoluted solutions to problems that don't exist.
What is going on with you? What is your weird hangup with computers from before 1992 that might have a CD drive?

People run DOS on old machines in order to play old games. An all-in-one FDC/IDE/ATAPI to SD cardcard could be nice and convenient for use with said machines. Yes, nearly all CD software designed for DOS can be run on newer hardware or through Dosbox, but that's missing the point.

>> No.6535435

>>6535254
I'm not aware of any hardware CD emulators that don't work with DOS. You can find them anywhere they're sold. eBay for example.
No hangup here. You're the one who insists on running CD games on pre pci hardware, not me.
I have several machines I run DOS on. That's why I find your "all in one works on any ISA system" idea so ridiculous. Why would I want to use an 8-bit card on anything except an 8088? Why would I want to use the single ISA slot on a newer machine to emulate a HDD, slowly, instead of for a sound card? The concept has more holes than swiss cheese.
Again, define your goals before you decide how you're going to achieve them. Sounds to me like you want retroarch XMB without dosbox. Am I getting warm?