/vr/ - Retro Games

>>6490050
damn itsa party
on my way

/vr/ sez, nerco lives matter!

>>6489436
since it was the beta it wasn't known that it was garbage perhaps

in homm2 Eagle Eye is a fine skill, because there aren't that many skills and with the lack of resources getting lightning bolt for free is pretty good

>>6490565
Whats that UI mod

>>6491047
HotA added initiative order bar.

>>6490004
It's definitely a comfy image. What's the source?

>>6491048
Fucking where
I played it but never found that option

>>6491260
I feel insulted by half of these but the other half is just perfect.

>>6491268
It's a recent change, maybe you need to update.

>>6491246
I got it from google, reverse image search didn't help you?

>>6491268
also that option is not included with the small screen resolution, you gotta change to a higher one

Is there a way to turn off initiative order bar midgame? I accidentally turned it on when starting this map and I hate it.

>>6491048
>HotA added initiative order bar.
Actually HD mod did.
>>6492697
No. In HD Launcher set UI.Battle.Queue to 0 in the tweaks tab.

>>6491260
I don't get it at all

>>6491467
My bad, I found it. The artist's name is Tira-Owl:
>https://www.deviantart.com/tira-owl/art/Fan-Art-Heroes-of-Might-and-Magic-428459133

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>>6494919
I blame HotA, Resistance did nothing wrong, Thorgrim can't breathe

What do you guys to do with the town after capturing it?

Personally, if it's the same as my starting town, I'll atleast get castle and all dwellings, so I can get twice the creatures each week. I might also build up a town that has really good synergy with my current plan (for instance, having the castle hero that has bonus archery skill and finding a tower town)

Other towns I usually just get the 2000 gold per day building, and maybe mage guilds if I'm really late game and look for certain spells

>>6495413
Usually rush city hall for monies (meanwhile getting the mage guild for potential new spells and blacksmith for new war machine) unless I need to immediately defend it.

>>6495413
If it doesn't already have a fort then normally just get money from it with a city hall, and maybe a mage guild tech for later. If there is a fort grab some extra low level shooters and depending on faction maybe tech all the way for better units.

>dread knights attack
>death blow
>luck smiles

>>6495413
no reason not to get all dwellings just so they can stack troops for the future, with the way thia game is designed you often swim in cash while being bottlenecked to a few troops every week

late game you could just run around with a bunch of mixed level 5,6 and 7s

>>6495413
Depends on map size,how many resources I have, and how many players (or AIs) are on the map. On smaller maps just gets what you can from it, but on bigger maps build it up unless there's a reason not to.

Can anyone redpill me on the war machines?

I usually get the cannon, since it's really nice for sieges, but what about the ballista, ammo cart and healing tent?

>>6498807
>ammo cart
needed if you want to use your shooters through long battles. "Long" is kinda relative, as some shooters only have 4 or 8 shots then become meele troops.
>ballista
it can fuck your shit up, especially with ballista specialists
>firstaid tent
can go from borderline useless to gamechanging, depending on the fight. I saw some competitive Jebus Cross memes get fucked or win fights because a first aid tent kept a high health unit alive.

How can i hack the pokemon MMO online, ? using a bots? using macro's ? or what?

>>6498914
>pokemon
>mmo
>hacking

>on the retro games board
>in a heroes 3 general

Neck yourself with all due haste.

>>6498807
War machines are garbage and not worth buying. Ballista with ballista specialist sometimes can be used in early battles, especially with Gurnisson.

>>6498807
waste of money, balista can fuck you up if you are using blind on the last enemy stack becasue without artilery skill it will shoot the enemy and wake them up but also why would you pick that skill in the first place? its awful, plus balista

first aid tent and supply wagon are practicly useless too

>>6498807
Ammo cart is required to handle abysmal stacks of enemy units with putting your shooter behind it and force field.

>>6500205
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuy_ncoBhGM

>>6500226
>Wayfarer
This map is so hard that I played while reading a walkthrough in a homm3 forum.
Didn't finish playing it though.

>>6498807
>I usually get the cannon
>playing game modded
>without knowing basics of the gameplay
Worst player type

I asked in the previous threads, but what are the best campaigns to you? all Heroes games count
I want to replay some

>>6500450
homm4 campaigns.

>>6500450
SoD campaigns of Gem and Gelu are comfy as fuck and perfect for leisurely summer Heroes sessions. Yog, Crag Hack and Sandro aren't as good but worth going through in order to get to Unholy Alliance.

>>6500546
>Yog campaign
>Crag Hack campaign
I think I have PTSD about those 2, they are fucking annoying but I don't even remember why

What's your opinion on Heroes Chronicle ? I think it's based

>>6500598
It's an ultimate jewry how it was sold. The campaigns themselves are OK btw.

Also you can download the campaigns from russian heroes3 sites and play them standalone from sod/hota/era, no need to install a fuckton of redundant clients.

>>6500546
I'd attribute it more to Rampart/grassland terrain in general being comfy as fuck.

>>6500598
Campaigns are too easy even for a casual like me, not really interesting to follow because they're about the same character. It was a cashgrab.

>HOMM3
>get town portal expert
>win

>>6491260
Can some ruski give us a translated version?

>>6498807
ammo cart goes with you to banks (conservatory, treasury, graveyard etc.) even though it's not actually visible (but it will still give you infinite ammo), and ballista can with some micro be used to soak up to 250 damage and with Gurnisson it does respectable damage in week 1

and uh, first aid tent, well, I've seen a guy successfully use Verdish and week 1 hydra to creep for free but it's an extremely niche skill for extremely niche situations and you shouldn't think too hard about it

>>6500546
>>6500637
Gem's campaign has the best designed maps of the entire series imo. They're challenging without just having retarded cheap gimmicks like Crags and it's just a perfect example of single faction on faction warfare. You conquer your neutral towns, the enemy does the same, set up army supply chains, and by the time you're butting heads with the necromancers you both have pretty beefy armies and have to balance conquest and controlling middle ground territory. I wish more maps were like that.

>>6500852
Compared to Heroes 2 which is get dimension door and win on anything other than small maps.

For Heroes III, do you use the VCMI heroes engine, or just the original game? I like the idea of VCMI since it lets me run heroes natively on linux, but I'm not sure how to true to the original game it will be. It shouldn't be too hard to run the original on wine either, so I'm just wondering if any of you have experience with this VCMI heroes engine.

should I start with terra or xeen?

>>6504267
Terra if you have played DOS RPGs before, Xeen if this is your first. Xeen is a lot easier to get into, but going back is a lot harder afterwards.

Can someone explain me what is going on in pic related? its some kind of autistic pre game bets? looks like they are bargaining?

t. pvp newfag

>>6503627
back when I checked (the source code) in 2014 VCMI was shitty slavshit, and it was also unplayable
They had discussions in their forum like 'we will improve the AI so it does not suck', but at the same time the enemy turns were either
1) just crashing the game
2) entering an infinite loop and hanging the game
3) doing retarded shit like moving the heroes back and forth
So based on this, I'd suggest to not even bother. I really despise this trend of "amateur recode an old game because they think they know how to fix shit"

>>6504419

VCMI is still shit. AI does not work.. computer players don't buy troops in castles, etc

>>6504416
Lobby randomizes factions, then they're trading factions and colour. So if you wan to play red necro, you'll probably end up with -6500 gold.

>>6504646
>colour
what the fuck why?

>>6504658
Red goes first, it could mean a lot when both of them are in the central treasure zone and simultaneous rounds are over/were interrupted and they are playing in normal round based mode.

>>6504658
It's like white in chess.

>>6504712
they knee down on the blacks?

>>6504646
thats pretty autistic
love it

>>6501787
>Gem's campaign has the best designed maps of the entire series imo
Now that you've mentioned that, I do have very fond memories of Gem's (and Gelu's - but mostly because of his OP speciality) campaign. I always thought it's because of the general comfyness of the faction, but the maps themselves are pretty straightforward without being too repetetive.

>>6505691
I remember this mission. Had to restart it once.
Turns out the solution is to rush. The solution in every campaign is to rush. It's why I stopped playing them.

>>6506324
Had the same problem the first time I played it. Went through and replayed all of AB and RoE by the time I came back to it and it was fine then. The only obnoxious campaign was Yog's, especially with those magic skills for free in the start of the campaign. A lot of people seem to complain about Crag's but I never had any problems with it.

>>6498897
ballista can fuck up blind if you don't have the ability to manually aim it.

lol

>Play at 100% difficulty
>Walk over enemy ai
>Play at 130 % difficulty
>Enemy ai walks over me

What do I do?

>>6507453
play at 115% difficulty

>>6507453
Git gud. Army first, hire more heroes, expand fast to mop up the treasure chests and loose resource piles.

>>6507453
play better

>>6490565
There should be a Titan on the right.

>>6504658
red rush is real

>>6507902
Why?

>>6506324
That's why Highscore depends on numbers of days spent. The gameplay is built on the idea of beating a match as quickly as possible.

>>6491260
HAHAHAHA the water/ice elementals and medusas are 10/10

>>6508728
they hate eachother

>>6512203
Right, I confused right and left.
Derp.

Okay, wanna do favourite town everyone and reasons why?

Me? Easy pick, Dungeon

>3 fliers, one without retaliation, and two shooters make sieges ez
>Overlords are by far the best heroes in the game
>lvl 5 mage guild
>Mana Vortex is broken
>Minotaurs are amazing and Black Dragons are too

It is an expensive town, but I also feel that medusas, beholders and harpy hags (or just mass trogs) allow you to take harder fights early that balance the resource requirements.

>>6512696
Unpopular opinion here, but
>Inferno
>Best music
>Best aesthetic
>I actually enjoy farming demons
>Devil kiting for days
>Seriously, the fucking music

>>6507230
I think Romero might be gay but I admire his work-out routines and dedication.

bleh

>>6513594
what took you?

>>6512696
also don't forget
>portal of summoning (kinda broken if you have a high level dwelling and multiple dungeons)
>both shooters have no meele penalty + medusa stone gaze

>>6512696
WEEEEEEEEEE are your OOOOOOOOOVERLOOOOOOOOOORDS
AYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEA AH!
AYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEA AH!

>>6490004
curently playing world of xeen
I wanted to make a full gnome party but apperantly character slots are restricted to their portraits thus I can't create a full party of gnomes, is there any way or mod that fixes this?

>>6514489
The normal character editor doesn't allow it, so it probably requires more than just a hex edit.

>>6503627
>natively on linux
why is this important? game runs fine with wine.

>>6490565
>5 factions
>undead
Not like your numbers are going to matter much against that enemy army, but losing half your turns to bad morale isn't gonna help.

>>6513805
ban'd

>>6513956
Medusa need more than 4 shots though. Taking the extra turn to upgrade them always feels bad.

>>6491260
>>6501572
[Red Sector]
Arch Devil - Stalin
Devil - Lenin
Efreet Sultan - MP of Communist Party of Soviet Union
Efreet - government official of Communist Party of Soviet Union
Pit Fiend - Boss of GULAG
Pit Lord - Beria
Scorpicore - Trotsky
Demon and Horned Demon - National bolsheviks
Red Dragon - CHINA
Gog and Magog - marxists
Imp and Familiar - socialists
Wraith - SS Squad
Walking Dead - Sieg, Bro; Cleaver
Mummy - Return the apartheid!
Battle Dwarf - Old proletariat
Centaur Captain - Left (leaning) teacher
Dendroid Soldier - Bernie Sanders
War Unicorn - Fantasies of left economics

Ghost Dragon - Reich Bird (official symbol of Nazi Germany "Der Reichsadler")

[Blue Sector]
Vampire Lord - German intellectuals
Gargoyles - We will decorate the wall
Archer and Marksman - Police
Cavalier - MAGAbot
Enchanter - Democrat
Master Genie - Legal migrant businessman
Halberdier - I am a patriot! (Metropolis variant)
Pikeman - I am a patriot! (Country bumpkin variant)
Champion - MegaMAGAbot
Titan - Senator of Texas
Zealot - Enteo (Dmitry Enteo - russian radical religious activist)
Giant - Sheriff
Arch Mage - Conservative Bourgeois

In the center between dragons - EEEHHHHHH CENTER)))

1/2

>>6516720
[Green Sector]
Centaur - Left (leaning) student
Dwarf - Young proletoriat
Halfling - Starbucks employee
Troglodyte - Failed abortion
Energy Elemental - OOHHH! TESLA!
Psychic Elemental - I am an atheist intellectual
Water Elemental - Yes, I am a feminist... and female.
Ice Elemental - Yes, I am a feminist... and female. And also body positive... and female.
Medusa - Yes, I am a feminist... and female. And also body positive... and female. And vegan... and female.
Harpy Hag - Just lesbian
Behemoths - Antifa
Minotaurs - We are satanists
Mind Elemental - Yes, I am an exhibitionist. What are you going to do about it?
Fire Elemental - I am burning because of this CIS scum
Phoenix - Conchita (Wurst) sang a song about me
Air and Storm Elementals - Dude, nature
Ogre - Rock (and roll), anarchy, port (wine)

[Pink Sector]
Master Gremlin - Oy vey! Those taxes like shackles.
Gremlin - Oy vey! Still too much!
Troll - We are Legion
Mage - Liberal Bourgeois
Peasant - I am a patriot! (shithole variant)
Genie - illegal migrant businessman
Stone and Iron Golems - We just exist and do not bother others
Mighty Gorgon - If I try hard enough, I would get a new professional qualification
Naga - Sssss (Noble variant)
Queen Naga - Sssss (Noble and armed variant)
Boar - Who the fuck needs roads?
Gnoll Marauder - I do not have enough money for a better weapon
Lizard Warrior - Buddy, if you get in, I would fucking shot your brains off with an arrow
Wolf Raider - Who the fuck needs roads? [2]
Orc Chieftain - We kind of have some weapons here, but please, do not attack us, ok?
Chaos Hydra, Serpent Fly, Dragon Fly, Wyvern Monarch, Greater Basilisk - Hsssss
Cyclops - I can sell you this stone or fuck your shit up with it
Cyclops King - I automated the stone mining, so my profits are rising
Goblin - Anarchy is the Mother of Order

2/2

>>6513447
>I think Romero might be gay
Anon, I...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2sD6XG66Ds
Have some fresh slav memes.

>>6507453
Once the AI kicks your ass restart the map, now that you immediately know where the mines and goodies are the first few weeks should run smoother for you. It's all about micro-managing your movement at the start in order to build up a strong foundation for the rest of the match. This is easier to practice in maps you already know.

>>6517320
reddit tier

>>6517320
all that effort just to make cringe

>>6516779
>>6516720
thanks

>>6513594
sssssssssacha

>>6518608
Here, have a transparent version.

>>6514656
fuck off racist, your problematic post has been reported to the 4channel administration staff

>>6517753
>>6517858
atleast someone is making some sort of heroes content, noticing the broken roads made me lol

>>6516720
>>6516779
God's work, thank you ruski

>>6518671
i can still see it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoA1QGXa6c8

you cant say he isnt trying

Whats the difference between 'HoMM 2 Gold (optional Windows version) (2.0.0.7)' and 'Heroes of Might and Magic 2 Gold (2.1.0.29)'? should i use one over the other? if so,which one?

>>6519465
I think dos version is better, I'm using it.

>>6519465
Windows vs DOS, though DOS has a few more patches. If I remember right the Windows one uses the vanilla city music and DOS uses the expansion city music.

>>6519883
You can choose what music to use in dos version. Expansion music is shit.

>>6519465
Shouldn't use gold at all.

Why is inferno so shit bros. It's like they went out of their way to make it horrible

>>6513594
Based

Is it okay to put Stables on a map? Upgrading Cavaliers for free sounds insanely OP and damaging to the player balance, but I never play Castle so this is just my guess from an outsider's perspective.

>>6520290
If anything it helps out other factions more because of the movement speed increase they can't get otherwise.

>>6520290
just don't put them near a Castle town, that simple

>>6505691
It's that music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO312ReVPNQ

>get burnt out on HOMM3
>play Disciples 2 instead
>get burnt out on Disciples 2
>play HOMM3 instead
I want to play other games but they won't let me.

>>6521108
What are you looking for?
Thematic genre: medieval fantasy?
Mechanical genre: strategy, but not more specific than that?

master of magic, age of wonders, warlords battlecry, warlords, warcraft

>>6521178
Does HD mod fuck with turn orders?

reported and saged let me bump off my last remaining comment on this website and then I will stop posting forever


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>>6517320
>>6519052
eh, idk, call my humour cringy and slav-centered, but I liked it.

>>6521108
I know the feeling. They are the first two TBSs that I've ever tried and I replay the campaigns from time to time even though I went through them at least several times each already.

based dragonfuckers

based dragonfuckers

>>6521178
I've got AoW 2 and 3 but haven't tried them yet. I'm looking for more TBS games with RPG elements.
Setting doesn't really matter. Thanks for the recs.

>>6518608
>>6518671
The hydra is back.
Guess it survives corona.

>>6521616
no

Translated by Google:

On HotA Facebook, fan art (if this term is appropriate in this case) is posted by the artist under the nickname Riori Kasua. It was created as part of the background images for streams, commissioned by the organizer of one online tournament. The tournament, however, as a result did not take place and, accordingly, the images remained unclaimed. At the same time, this work is also rapidly losing relevance - much of the work presented on it is already outdated. For a long time there is no old design of the castle, and some other buildings from the city screen, and the design of units has changed a lot. The Halfling is stronger, the Arrows and flamethrowers are not so significant. Even the Battleships here were created even before the 3D model, not to mention the early prototypes of the Dreadnought "submariners" in spacesuits in the far background. Now in the community this art is still easy to perceive as something thematically related to the Factory, but after a couple of months it will look frankly outdated. So, I suppose, now was the time to share it.

I'm playing homm3 for the first time. It's my first time playing any homm for that matter. I installed the HD mod so I could play full screen on a 1600x1200 monitor. The menu and battle map are really small but the world map is full screen and looks good. Is this the only way it will work? Is there no way to have the battle map in full screen at 1600x1200?

Time for a new thread?

New thread: >>6528035