/vr/ - Retro Games

>>6487449
Classic mod? What classic mod?

>>6487451
The one in the steam page I linked. It's a mod compilation that does stuff like apply the old sprites. I was asking if the fixes described in that mod package solve all the problems that make the PC version undesirable, or if there's other stuff that I should be concerned with.

>>6487449
>And is there a version that's unequivocally better than the modded PC version?
https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/1386/

>>6487492
God damn, that's a pretty compelling argument. One question: Why is the readme in Chinese?

>>6487619
>One question: Why is the readme in Chinese?
I'm not sure - it's in English for me on the site and in the zip.

>>6487638
That's weird. Can you upload the additional patches compatibility doc? I'm hoping I can use it with Dancing Mad.

>>6487639
https://pastebin.com/hchjp55E

>>6487642
Damn. Oh well, thanks.

>>6487646
Just checked and according to the forums it is compatible
>Confirmed compatibility with "Ted Woolsey Uncensored Edition" patch (apply *after* the MSU-1 patch, with your favorite IPS patcher. Note that the "music player" addon patch works but has some audio hitching issues when leaving menus)
https://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php?topic=22929.msg346845#msg346844

>>6487458
Can't you just play the classic version with the old sprites?

OP why would you not just download an emulator for free and play that? The actual people who worked on this game won't get any money from your purchase.

>>6487458
>The one in the steam page I linked. It's a mod compilation that does stuff like apply the old sprites.

>buy/acquire pc-version
>make it look like snes-version
uhm...

>>6487449
Is there any way to get rid of the atrocious input lag?

>>6487619
>One question: Why is the readme in Chinese?
I wonder why that was

>>6487449
Just emulate the SNES version

>>6487492
Why do people venerate Woolsey? Dude was a hack.

>>6488735
It barely even resembles his script any more.

>>6487492
no bestiary, no soul shrine, no dragon's den.

>>6487449
ff6 advance with sound restoration and palette fix:
https://fantasyanime.com/finalfantasy/ff6/ff6downloads.htm

https://fantasyanime.com/finalfantasy/ff6/roms/gba/Final_Fantasy_VI_Advance_[Restored].zip

Includes bestiary, four new espers (cactuar, diabolos, gilgamesh, and leviathin), new ultimate weapons and armor, one 3-party bonus dungeon (Dragon's Den), and something akin to the Pit of Trials from TTYD (Soul Shrine)

>>6488803
>no bestiary, no soul shrine, no dragon's den.
No loss.

>>6487449
I've tried that mod using the Classic bundle but the game now looks extremely zoomed in and the sprites are XBOX HUEG.

>>6488823
bestiary means getting to see item drops, weaknesses, etc. w/o consulting a walkthrough for everything. if OP wants to go in blind, that will definitely help with a few rare items.

>>6488808
>four new espers (cactuar, diabolos, gilgamesh, and leviathin), new ultimate weapons and armor, one 3-party bonus dungeon (Dragon's Den)

up to this, yes,, but Soul Shrine is kinda shit.

>>6488796
And? People still venerate Woolsey and he is still a hack.

>>6487449
if you want to play on PC that bad, just emulate the SNES version.

>>6488808
quit trolling with this shit. the sound restoration makes the sound EVEN WORSE

>>6487449
>And is there a version that's unequivocally better than the modded PC version?
T-Edition: https://poematocx.com/ff6t/
Shame it'll never be in English.

>>6489530
Censored

>>6489535
>the sound restoration makes the sound EVEN WORSE
True

>>6489551
http://ngplus.net/index.php?/forums/topic/1119-t-edition-english-lua-version-requires-windows-snes9x-rr/

>>6491127
Holy shit, really? Hot damn, that's sweet!

>>6488823
>no soul
>not a loss

>>6488808
Both the GBA port and the original US SNES release are censored. For instance, the intro scene of Celes in the GBA version doesn't show her getting beaten down by guards.
The PSX version uses the uncensored japanese sprites, which means you get to see Siren's butt, but it comes at the cost of horrendous loading times.
The base PC version is awful but you can make it good with mods and it features the additional content included in the GBA port. It's still censored though.

In the end, it's just about picking your poison.

>>6495002
>In the end, it's just about picking your poison
not if you decide to play with romhacks instead. I don't get why people are so reluctant to just patch the game so to not have to bother with any of that garbage.

>>6487449
Takes like 90 seconds to find snes emulator and the rom. Play it right faggot

>>6487449
Don't play the shitty steam version,

>>6496471
It's not bad with some mod magic.

>>6487449
Deadass just emulate T-edition.
I've been where you were.

For the original experience in english it's Ted Woolsey Uncensored Edition, GBA has too many compromises to art/sound fidelity even with patches. No the extra content isn't worth it.

The Steam version has botched art, period. Character sprites are all fucked, colors are too bright in towns, the screen ratio is crunched like GBA. Mods CAN reduce the damage done + you can have a custom OST which is very nice and classic sprites help a lot, you can even curate something similar to a decent looking remaster ala Arte Piaza's Dragon Quest/Romancing Saga ports but to my knowledge you need to put in at MINIMUM a few hours to learn how to customize what specific mods you want. Classic, Hybrid and AWR packs available in Atma Weapon are just other pre-made packs that try their best but none of them go far enough imo.
The link you posted will teach you what you need to know but I had to go even further, take other people's mods and gut them to put them into mine for decent looking UI icons without janky borders.

T-Edition retains the art, adds in GBA's script and adds GBA content and way, way, WAY more. If you're already playing on PC you may as well roll T-Edition.

>>6497718
>For the original experience in english it's Ted Woolsey Uncensored Edition
How is that in any way the original experience?

>>6497718
This. For me, T-Edition is the definitive version of FF6. It's an SSS-tier romhack that stays faithful to the original, literally perfect. It's the Bokuno hack of Final Fantasy. I love how a bunch of stuff from other FF and SaGa games was added to it, I love the costumes which essentially are different classes for the characters, I love the new dungeons (especially the crystal tower), love the new bosses (EX bosses s.a. Mateus were great, Ultima and Bahamut were also really good), etc.

>>6497718
God fucking damn that looks hideous.

>>6497718
>>6497880
I was looking for some gameplay footage of T-edition but I could only find some fragments online, how much did they actually change compared to vanilla? Was it posted on a website like romhacking dot net?

Nevermind, I found some info on RH and on a different website where they gave some clarification on what they added and what they're still working on. I hope a full english release will be released sometime.

>>6497937
>how much did they actually change compared to vanilla?
they changed a fuckton of mechanics. it's dressed up as an "added content" mod, but other than the main plotline, everything got changed. I hate when they fuck with the mechanics beyond simple or obvious bugfixes.

>>6497948
It's already translated: http://ngplus.net/index.php?/forums/topic/1119-t-edition-english-lua-version-requires-windows-snes9x-rr/

>>6498174
>I hate when they fuck with the mechanics beyond simple or obvious bugfixes
However, in the case of FF6, those mechanics are godawful, meaning it doesn't matter anyway if they change them. T-Edition did a much better job overall.

>>6487750

OP is 12 and his daddy told him emulators are viruses and he's not allowed to download weird exes, just games from that steamy site.

>>6497718
>For the original experience in english it's Ted Woolsey Uncensored Edition

No, that's obsoleted by hairy_hen's meticulous retranslation project: https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/4619/
And arguably Dr. Meat's relocalization project, though as far as I know it essentially does the same thing as Woolsey Uncensored except more emphasis on Tom Slattery's GBA script: https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/2247/

Frankly, I have no idea how Rodimus Primal is so popular, his relocalization hacks have all been outdone by other people. Yes, J2Evisceration is still better than Namingway Edition, which cannot be a 100% restoration.

>>6497726
>>6498261
I meant more to say TWUE was good/the standard the last I knew before I moved on to other things, I did see of Hairy_Hen's stuff but last I checked on it had just come out. If it's better then that's great.

>>6489075

He was forced by NoA to censor. In light of that he gave some of the original characters a little more charm and soul in return.

There are a niche of English speaking Japs who actually prefer his translations, true story.

>>6498261
>>6499372
Dr. Meat's patch seems to be the lesser of the three if the reviews saying that it doesn't work on legit hardware are right, but it is still pretty telling that Rodimus Primal felt so threatened by hairy_hen's version that he ripped it off in a later update, what a totally petty feeble move.

>>6499372
Neither of those come in any way close to the original experience. It's all EOPs trying to rewrite existing bad translations based on a summary.

>>6500257
That's describing the Dr. Meat relocalization. The hairy_hen translation is at least focused on a professional translator, Clyde Mandelin aka Tomato of Mother 3 fame, along with original work for the rest of the text. Rodimus is probably in between the two in terms of quality since it's updated in response to the hairy_hen translation to reference multiple fan-translations as a source, but I have a feeling he just used whatever personally sounded better to him instead of prioritizing accuracy.

>>6498261
Here's a pastebin of the initial hairy_hen patch, I'd like to know how it stacks up to the latest Rodimus Primal version: https://pastebin.com/RyVqkRnY

>>6500703
It's still tertiary material.
Try providing the original text so everybody can see how they handled it.

>>6500728
Uh, that's what the annotations are for, but if you really need a text dump then there's no shortage of them on your favorite search engine, plus you can easily find an analysis of the Japanese, Ted Woolsey, Tom Slattery, and RPGOne versions on Legends of Localization.

>>6501001
So there is no real head to head comparison with this pseudo-translation and the original script.

>>6501061
Or you're being a lazy ass obnoxiously demanding to be spoonfed. You have your resources, look them up yourself.

>>6501210
I'm not the one asking how it compares.

>>6501061
>"there is no real head to head comparison"
>literally just told about the head to head comparisons that the retranslation is directly based on, along with a game script with notes

>>6497937
here's an English playthrough

>>6497937
here's an English playthrough https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqgr3iDKG_vCmZ83KcGmnYS5ehsrQrR9r

>>6487449
If you're already on PC you might as well get snes9x-rr and boot up T-Edition. No matter how many mods you install, the PC version will forever look like shit.

>>6502017
Why such an specific, obscure emu? Does it not work on real hardware?

>>6502090
English version requires this emulator because of how it's patched for now, but even then, T-Edition won't work as intended on real hardware at minimum due to the EX save swapping, at least conventionally.

>>6501267
It's still not a head to head comparison.

>>6495002
Why not just play Japanese sfc version?

>>6488735
Fuuuuucckkk yooouuuuuu

>>6502090
You could play it with pretty much any other emulator, it's just that it's a japanese romhack and the translation of it is a lua script. So you need an emulator that can run lua scripts. snes9x-rr can definitely do that, maybe other emulators s.a. BizHawk could too, since I remember them also having an option for lua scripting, but I haven't tried it out yet.