/vr/ - Retro Games

>>6459191
It needs a good balance hack. The reverse castle also needs Lament of Innocence's OST.

Is the most addicting game when it comes to killing enemies. Zelda pads the game with jars/bushes to break and buttons to press, and Diablo 2 gives you the loot. But SotN is just pure bloodshed, I don't think there is a game where killing enemies feels more mesmerizing than this one.

>>6460991
Straight out of Vampire Hunter D

>>6461092
>>6460991

Came out at the completely wrong time as well when 3D was all the rage. It was seen as completely old fashioned.

>>6459195
There is the Hard Type romhack.

it's not bad but the spells and shields are still OP, the rest is well balanced however.

>>6459195

>Hard Type

Luck code gives you 25 health at the start of the game. Hard as shit for the first couple hours.

>>6459191
I was always amazed this game managed a T rating with the teleport room dicks, load room nipples and the monster that spews a geyser of blood when he dies.

>>6462000
PS1 ratings were really wacky. Like you play MGS1 and it's about as appropriate as a toonami show but it got a hard M because it was 3D and cinematic.

>>6461591
And then becomes even easier once you're to a point where you don't die in two hits.

>>6460986
Ha, I didnt know you could stand on those things. The funny thing is it looks like that's how you're intended to fight them, since the missile can actually hit you from there. Whereas if you stay back and slash at the beast, the missile just flies over you.

>>6459191
Agreed. Easily one of my favorite games.

>>6460986

>>6460986
these guys look different in my game. i have a japanese copy, did they censor that in the us?

Balance is the death of fun

I like Dracula X (SNES) better

>>6464352
>>6464378
Dracula makes this game one of the toughest of the series, right up there with the X68000 version.

>>6464383
All you need are Axes and enough hearts to be able to throw 3 at a time

>>6464387
>>6464383

>>6464392

Bloodlines is pretty cool too

>>6459191
Literally what difficulty? The game has absolute zero difficulty

>>6464458
>The game has absolute zero difficulty
Exactly. That's why it's so unbalanced.

>Chinese ROMhacker YZB has coded a high-level hack of the Sega Saturn Castlevania: Symphony of the Night [Akumajou Dracula X-Gekka no Yasoukyoku] which implements a number of quality of life improvements by using the 4MB RAM cart and other modifications: Disk-reading slowdown is eliminated by preloading data to a 4MB RAM cart, the CD file layout is optimized, and several other fixes/improvements are employed, such as smoother character animations, the ability to skip cut scenes, and more.
http://bbs.chinaemu.org/read-htm-tid-128699-page-e.html

download is baidu-only-shit for which you need a chinese phone-number or whatever
pls somebody mirror this file

>>6464635
nevermind

>>6464712
Nevermind? as in you have a link? I'm interested; Saturn is my favourite version. There is no turning back once you've played that one.

Last video, I don't have much left interesting to show anymore. I guess it shows I love this game, most underrated CV game.

>>6459191
not retro, but
Aria of Sorrow is the polished version of SotN
Circle of the Moon is also great, and not an Iga. it's quite difficult too. kinda feels like the interesction of old and new school castlevania

>>6465879
AoS is not an improved in any way.
>Looks worse
>Sounds worse
>Alucard is still more pleasant to control
>You cannot spam holy water, that doesn't mean that game isn't piss easy.
>Much less content
>"Muh souls" are 99% garbage.

And I'm playing it right now after completing SotN, CofM, and HoD.

>>6461092
>>6461095
Oh, i see you are a man of culture as well.

>>6467867
The one thing I don't like about AoS is that once the get the Claimh Solais, all the other weapons are worthless. Sure it's hidden, but once you know about it, it can be acquired rather early on, and from that point onwards the only other weapon worth using is Death's scythe to get those souls and that's only on Hard mode.

I also tend to focus on the luck inducing gear and souls to get drops more easily; and as a result, don't use most of the drops I actually get. This gets even worse in DoS, and having to grind 9 souls to max shit out doesn't help.

>>6465879
>Aria of Sorrow
>mandatory RNG drops to unlock the true ending
>mandatory RNG drops to explore the castle 100%
I love the gameboy games but come on now.

SOTN would be goat to me if i could move fast late game

>>6468523
Saturn version.

>>6464431
Shit, I didn't know about that 1up and i've been playing this game since it's release.

>>6467867
AoS is polished in the sense that it has competent game progression and good level design. SotN is a blast, but even if you beeline from boss to boss not collecting anything, every boss save for Shaft and Dracula can be easily killed with base stats and basic equipment. The graphics are pretty great too (for instance, Axe Knights look so much better than in SotN). SotN has pretty fantastic music, but most of the BGM in the inverted castle save for one or two are pretty bad; AoS doesn't have as good of a score, but it's more consistent. Also, dat Kenny G credits song

>>6467986
yes, you have to have one of a few different souls to get into the forbidden area and obtain it's weapons, but really that's not much different than, say, grinding for 'grim in SotN. I don't have a problem with needing 3 particular souls to get to the last area either, because it is a puzzle, and by end game it doesn't take long to get a soul if you are pushing for it (assuming you didn't just pick it up by chance anyway)

>>6468563
I found it by accident falling down this hole like a retard

also it can only be acquired with Morris afaik

I'm sure you know about the other 1up, the one in the previous scroll?

>>6468991
Then how comes the most fun thing about AoS' progression is to sequence break to reach the garden with double jump without using the walk-on-water-I'm-literally-jesus soul, thus skipping 2 areas altogether?

Sequence breaking to press the switch with the dagger on DoS is also one of the best things about it

>>6459191
Do you get a dodge at some point in this? I recently tried playing it and it felt ungodly stiff. I also didn't find the first few areas to be very good looking. I was actually surprised at how kind of ugly the game was.

Then I played Harmony of Dissonance and loved every second. I definitely think I enjoy the whip more than I do the different types of weapons. Aria of Sorrow felt even better at first, which was funny because I didn't really like what I played of Symphony, but then it just suddenly ended and I felt sour. I was expecting some kind of twist like "there are two castles!" and that I would have more to do. I won't grind souls, that's retarded.

>>6467867
>Looks worse
>Sounds worse

It's a fucking gba game, what do excpect? It looks as good as the hardware will allow.

>>6471613
Not the same anon, but my biggest beef with gba graphics is how washed out the colors look.
I wish there was some kind of "palette swap" filter that made the colors look richer in emulators.

The gba sound chip is pretty terrible. Is a gba soundfont swap possible in emulators ? I dunno. I dont know much apart from doom modding.

>>6471215
>teleport room dicks
triangle is backdash literally through the entire game.

>>6471980
>teleport room dicks
whoops. forgot I had highlighted that.heh

>>6470747
but but but, you need a SOUL to do that!! \s
bugs and sequence breaking are always fun because you are pushing the game in ways it wasn't designed to be played. one of the downsides of heavily produced games is they have you absolutely on rails (see metroid fusion), but the freedom of being able to break off those rails can really add something special (see super metroid)

>>6471891
colors and sounds were always difficult on the GBA. CotM was a launch title back when they didn't have backlights, and it's so dark that even in direct sunlight it can be difficult to play. They learned a lot from that game; HoD (which sucks) puts an outline around Juste, and AoS has colors that work both with and without a backlight. i agree though, being able to change palettes would have been a great option.
the sound is what it is. at least it's somewhat better if you have stereo headphones rather than the shitty mono speaker

>>6471215
>Do you get a dodge at some point in this?
I dont get your meaning, you have the ability to dodge backwards from the very start.
Also once you get alternate forms, you get generous I-frames while transitioning between them.

>>6462004
>Like you play MGS1 and it's about as appropriate as a toonami show but it got a hard M because it was 3D and cinematic.
They probably asked for one. It wouldn't have sold as well without it.

>>6471980
>>6472107
I'm either horribly retarded or have misremembered my experience from two weeks ago already.
In any case, don't mind me!

SOTN is a great game to play the first time. Amazing, actually. I just can't see it being all that engaging to go back to once you've figured out what to do since every obstacle has some strategy you can employ to easily BTFO whatever is in your way

>>6464731
>>6464635
Looks like you can circumvent needing a chinknumber by going through baidu cloud but I never got the code and then it said I requested it too often

>>6472332
I play it every so often when I just want a game to be braindead overpowered on.

>kill owl
>leave him to suffer

:3c

>>6461108
Thats just N64fags trying to rewrite history
SOTN was always popular

>>6472373
The fact sotn has a greatest hits release says enough.

>>6472380
I can't think of a single type of human more pathetic than an N64onlyfag in the late 90's

>>6472373
>SotN goes on to spark a new sub-genre and become the standard by which all Castlevania games are judged by
>N64 games are mostly ignored, even by their own producers
Whoever wrote that article is likely still eating crow to this day.

>>6459191
I think the shitty inventory is my main gripe with the game. If it would just allow you to at least discard stuff, that would make a huge difference.

>>6459195
Reverse castle has no good songs, enemies that make it so easy to overlevel on accident (those flying things with the big white wings and the polygon knights give crazy XP) and the most disappointing boss fight. Fighting Dracula as Richter in the beginning is more fun that fighting the final boss.

The game is 10/10 until you get to the reverse castle.

>>6472373
That article didn't age well.

>>6462004
N64 games are the same way. Perfect dark is rated M for some reason. Thr standards for ratings have changed significantly as we entered a sort of exploitation phase of gaming, where if you have gore or violence it needs to be as extreme as possible and you need to actively participate in it. Clothing getting a blurry blotch of red from a gunshot is tame compared to what is M rated today.

>>6467867
>Autist post

>>6472373
>>6472380
>>6472408
Shitty Sony console with weird igavania fanboi

>>6472404
Some of the areas in the reverse castle are creepy as fuck, like Silent Hill-tier weird. It deserved to be given all out aesthetics.

The music deffo needs an overhaul. That one track on loop is such a waste and a missed opportunity. I doubt it's due to space limitations, hence the reverse castle needs Lament of Innocence's OST.

>>6460982
>killing an innocent doggo

>>6465879
CotM is so underrated, one of my favorites in the series.

>>6474356
>CotM
>level design scale is completely off, that leads to needing double jumps everywhere, which on top of the double tap running which has no excuse for even existing considering how early on you get it, make navigation a chore
>this also leads everything looking XBOX HUBE and empty, and to enemies shooting at you from off the screen with no warning
>the only challenge comes from shitty enemy placement and the sheer number of enemies, like let's cram a fuckton of dumb enemies together
>the cross subweapon rapes everything in the game, it's designed to be more effective than in any other game, and on top of this the slow pacing of the game makes it even more OP than it should be
>no shop, pretty much no gear/card pick ups in the game save for one, so the ENTIRE game system is based on RANDOM DROPS
>if you play on luck mode to attenuate that, you need to complete the game 3 times in shitty gimmick modes first; then luck mode only makes the bad enemy placements even worse due to dying in so few hits

It's not underrated. It's pretty fucking well rated for what it is I would say.

It's pretty obvious that with HoD they tried to fix all the main flaws of CotM, to the point it leads to the opposite issues: random drops basically don't matter, their solution to fix off screen enemy shooting leads to un-spectacular bosses crammed in tight spaces like Dracula's 2nd form, and not just one subweapon is OP but tons of them.

>>6459191
I'm just now playing through all the Castlevania games, and feel this one's among the worst. I really just can't get over how terrible the difficulty curve is in this game, and how it relies on you to do some sort of challenge run to get any crumb of satisfaction out of it. The first castle has great level design, though. And it's clearly a very historically important game, I just feel as though the later Igavania's refined the formula, and that the Classicvanias were much more satisfying.

>>6472373
This is sadly the reality even nowadays, that graphics matters more than gameplay, and 3D > 2D.

>>6473037
>>6472373
>>6472383
Console warriors get the rope.

>>6474393

Clunk of the Moon was BY FAR the worst.

>>6475778
>t. couldn't beat the zombie dragons

the copy and paste level design gives halo a run for its money

Why are SOTN niggers allowed in this board when everyone hates the game?.

>>6476686
>That one poster that gets upset at the mere mention of SOTN and demands anyone who talks about it here, be banned
Lmao just how obsessed are you?

>>6476859
Zoomer

>>6476860
>oomer meme

>>6476864
Sorry the game is not good.

>>6465879
>COTM isn't Iga

Well fuck. Who's kickstarter SHOULD I be funding, then?

>>6464352
I fucking love how he switches phases in Rondo and Dracula X. How he goes from a floating warlock using magic spells to changing colour, stance and completely switches fighting style from a wizard to a scythe wielding warrior. Love that shit!

>>6475907
>spam cross and summons

wow hard

>>6459191
>it just feels much more memorable and comfy than the future Iga-vania's.
The earlier linear CV games are better, but SotN is easily the best of its type

>>6478019
scary candle (the only monster to drop the summon card) only appears _after_ you beat the dragons (unless you cheat with the card glitch). also, there is no way you can power the cross through the entire fight without lots of heart items due to their high costs. try again, loser

>>6478981
Last time I played in Luck Mode and I had enough hearts to do 80-90% of that fight with the Cross, without using heart refills

You need to use all your best gear for attack as it affects subweapon dmg too

>>6467942
J resists the holy damage of the Claimh Solais, so at least one of the endgame bosses forces you to do something else.