/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[5-26] Pandemonia 2.0 released
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GKjW1ZGQkViW3MOBDxnyK3Sk41ynpv6S/view

[5-25] The Force Engine was updated
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/post/2133742
https://theforceengine.github.io/downloads.html

[5-24] Smooth Blood released, its like Smooth Doom but for Blood
https://www.moddb.com/mods/smoothblood

[5-23] Punishment, an episodic replacement for the first Doom
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/114613-punishment-an-episode-1-replacement-for-doom/

[5-23] Anon shares some Sandy Peterson videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwV3uwM19EY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlSb1esFt0A

[5-22] La Tailor Girl updated
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=58343&start=405#p1152235

[5-22] Dark Forces DeHacker updated to v1.3
http://df-21.net/

[5-22] Realm667 repository submissions are on hiatus
https://www.realm667.com/index.php/en/home/archiv/17-site-news/2259-repository-submissions-on-hiatus

[5-22] BuildGDX now runs Shadow Warrior as WangGDX
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaAUGs_3JJA

[5-20] Force Engine introduced, a Jedi Engine replacement for Dark Forces and Outlaws
https://theforceengine.github.io/
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/114497-the-force-engine-jedi-engine-portreplacement/

[5-20] Doom 64 Morph Sound release
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/114534-morph-sound-64-enhancement-for-doom-64-ex-retribution-gec-master-edition-and-nightdives-re-release/

[5-20] Universal Gameplay Tweaker released
https://github.com/jekyllgrim/Universal-Gameplay-Tweaker/releases/tag/1.0

[5-19] Sergeirocks100 is hosting a mapping contest for Satanic Infestation
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/113234-satanic-infestation-100-open-and-public-domain-iwad-project-current-version-v004-mapping-contest-being-held/?page=14&tab=comments#comment-2131841

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>>6472243
Irrelevant, Doom and Doom 2 were advertised to be playable on a 386 computer, and thus the levels had to not bring those computers a complete crawl, which is why maps like Downtown look like they do.

>>6472364
386's with MathCo processors anon.

>>6472375
What?

>>6472396
Back before pentiums were a thing, you had MathCo processors as an addon for the CPU.

without those, games like Falcon Gold would run like a slog.
Same applies to other games.

Playthrough video of map16 of 200 minutes of /vr/ is up.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=TKCob12M9eE

>>6472406
That's not the same as just running it with a bare 386 though.

>>6472412
https://www.computerhope.com/jargon/m/mathcopr.htm

because it was expensive, and most people had only bare 386's or 486's

>>6472406
the only ones buying 386 math co pros where people using productivity software. by 1993 the pentium 1 was out and it was comparatively cheap to buy a minimum 486 system that could run doom.

>>6472432
said people also played flight sims, and those needed a lot of CPU power

>>6472364
Doom 2 upped the minimum spec to a 486. Probably because of the larger levels and more complex enemy behaviors.

>>6472447
yeah I remember those... 10 fps on your pimped out 386.

Satanic Infestation just makes me laugh.
"I DON'T LIKE HOW FREEDOOM IS TRYING TO BE MORE ORIGINAL SO IM GOING TO MAKE A FORK OF IT TO MAKE IT LITERALLY JUST BOOTLEG DOOM"/

https://youtu.be/unwR8FnBCKA
>aranged differently some of the songs from Marathon would fit halo
Im certain marty never heard a single song from Marathon.

>>6472472
Good. I hope he succeeds.

>>6472480
Why make a bootleg Doom when people could literally just pirate doom off of github (yes not even joking)

At least freedoom is trying to be more original and have a unique cast of foes, story, etc. We do not need freedoom without any heart or originality.

I've managed to compile bunch of dev builds on windows even though i'm near illiterate at tech, so i may as well share it. MSYS2 with it's MinGW tools turned out to be plenty useful as it took just a few textual commands to do things. I will be doing updates from time to time, anons may write some requests here as i frequent /vr/
Things done as for now are: crispy doom and heretic, prboom umapinfo, quakespasm spiked and vulkan quakespasm. All inside down the corresponding links and all should be working (i think so)
https://mega.nz/folder/UfQE3KZR#cU-qylDoY1LCrBrTo6wzMg Doom
https://mega.nz/folder/APIjkSLZ#ojRdVY038Kd49kDNNQXJrA Quake
https://mega.nz/folder/APIjkSLZ#ojRdVY038Kd49kDNNQXJrA Build engine
https://mega.nz/folder/NSAlQaZC#jE9K9dUSY70jLVO_gN8F0Q Soundfonts
https://mega.nz/folder/9gAQGCAA#PF6tz-nWTAclug4_1KUVTA Thief

>>6472501
>prboom umapinfo
What commit did you compile it on?
https://github.com/coelckers/prboom-plus

Depending on if it's from the last couple weeks, it also includes the fix anon was mentioning a few threads ago with the armor color depending on armor type, not amount.

>>6472515
>>6472501
I mean this in the StatusBar/HUD menu, btw

How do I make a good-looking cave? So far I never managed that.

>>6472539
TNT Revilution had some good caves, you could take a look at those.

>>6472501
Bookmarked, shared, liked, retweeted, subscribed, pledged, followed, reblogged, linked, UNF'd.

>>6472539
Plenty of rock formations. Take a look. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRXRBpIW-JM

>>6472515
Like with the rest of sources i did copy of latest snapshots, so prboom has that fix

>>6472487
>Why make a bootleg Doom when people could literally just pirate doom off of github (yes not even joking)
What do you mean? You can technically compile the engine yourself, but you still need the assets (iwad).

Turok developer come back to meeeee. I wish I saved those screenshots

>>6472567
>>6472529
>>6472515
>>6472501
This greatly pleases my autism.

>>6472578
No. I don't mean the engine.
https://github.com/dgeng/iwad

Real chad HUD

>>6472590
Thaaaaat's fucking funny.

Oculus Quest arrived just the day after QuestZDoom was realeased, and it feels like a dream come true.

Visiting the wads i played and BE there is staggering. And the voxel weapon mods keep the retro feeling just right.

But i realized a couple of things
-my aim is not nearly as good as I thought it was
-doomguy can into fast paced combat, but i cant.

Hell is intense.

How the fuck Do I filter bot filled servers out of the browser in Quake 3? If I wanted to fight bots Id play singleplayer. Also why is it i see a bunch of servers where human players are all just spectators and they only have like 1 bot in the arena?

>>6472668
Sarge was so cool he deserved a better game as a main protag than fucking arena.

>>6472594
Gonna link this to anyone planning on playing Marathon 1 nowadays with A1
http://simplici7y.com/items/marathon-classic-hud

Choose your waifu

DooM?
i CooM

>>6472673
>Sarge was so cool
He was just an old guy with a cigar, that was his entire character, what was cool about him

>>6472687
I pick crash

>>6472687
The one on the right is not retro.

>the virgin civvie
>the chad rottking
https://youtu.be/HJcf0aOwmiA

Any good maps to play with Treasure Tech?

>>6472728
Super mayhem 17 or wait until the official mapset is out

>>6472375
>>6472406
>no math co-processor
>sad

>>6472721
It was so satisfying once I finally learned the proper distancing to consistently play punch-out with them boners. Makes fighting them even more fun than before

any suggestions? >>6471236

>>6472594
>chad HUD
It looks like one of those Tiger LCD games lmao

>>6472784
Stfu anime bitch.

>>6472770
Rekkr?

>>6472784
Why does she not have a nose? How the fuck does she smell BAKA!?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odeGFoFuu_k

>>6472784
Bitches leave

>>6472784
Based Satania

>>6472784
An anime girl doesn't make your opinion more valid you fucking retarded idiot

ANNON WHU DIDNET OYOU BEAT ROtT YET???

>>6472853
B O O T Y P L S

>>6472853
No good source port.

>>6472860
You could probably try ROTTEX but it's a little janky atm

>>6472721
Best god damn Doom video there is.
>youtube
...and it barely gets any attention.

>>6472784
Remember the good old days when you fuckers posted stuff like this? What went so wrong?

>>6472721
>those on screen comments
10/10

>>6472687
I choose the bandicoot
no homo

>>6472914
>I choose the bandicoot
W O A H that was funny, kek

>>6472883
>desu
>good old days

>>6472878
Its ok, its a true classic in the hearts of real doom fans

I fucking hate this game

>>6472963
>3x20
Huh???

Man i like the ambient sound engine in Marathon but it wouldnt have killed em to add some music in the levels. Especially when they had psykosonik helping them. https://youtu.be/T_MBPVC2tMM

Can't wait for 360 emulation to get good so we can play the superior version of Durandal on PC.

What's the lore in Marathon like, anyway?

For the longest time I figured it was literally just Doom on Mac, in that it was just run around really fast and haha gun go bang bang

>>6472987
Its insanely lore heavy. It starts with generic "oh noes teh aliens!" And ends with nightmares, metaphysics, understanding identity, fate, destiny all that http://marathon.bungie.org/story/ take a peak!

>>6472963
Someone should make a Hexen mod where every single wall is a switch.

I will say thar Marathon 1 and 2 are pretty straightforward in terms of story with some sprinklings of philosophy like in pic related. Infinity is where the writer fucking goes all out.

How's BlooM (the doom-blood crossover)?

>>6472584
Why not just search on desuarchive?

>>6473110
because im a lazy bum and the thought of searching for hours makes me sad.

How do I get chex quest and high noon drifter to play nice with one another? when I started playing it, I discovered the chaingun (or 'rapid zorcher') doesn't get converted properly to the Sierra M-12. Don't know about other pickup weapons, didn't get far enough in. Keys also aren't showing up properly either.

Does anyone have that old ass contra doom mod that was made by an anon here ages ago? Not Contra Doom by Beed28, there was one before that where the weapon had a funny little screen on it.

Fuck Decino. He is just a coat tail rider of people like civ11e and GGman. Except he doesn't have the charisma or effort to make actual videos so he just makes the same autistic videos on the same game.

>>6473146
All those people have different content/formats than each other.

>>6473146
At least Decino's cock is huge.

>>6473146
None of them are alike at all.ggman makes reviews, civvie makes highly edited comedic playthroughs. Decino just breaks down mechanics.

>>6473146
Weak as fuck bait m8, decino actually talks about the tech and code, Civvie makes entertaining edited lets plays essentially and Gman is a faggot.

>>6473146
How the fuck do people find shillman watchable, anyway? He ends every sentence like he's asking a question or sometheeng???? Or he's just spewing whatever stupid meme he saw on social media that day
I hope Beth at least paid him well for calling Doom Eternal "one of the best FPSes ever made". I'd know I'd want a fat check from Todd himself if I was forced to say that.

>>6473146
That's some stanky bait. Gross.

>>6472472
Hey there IvanDobrovski

>>6472934
I'd gladly have desu over Reddit/Twitter spamming shibe or 4chan spamming wojacks.

>>6472301
>Doom Eternal allows you to play the classic DOOM games on the Fortress of Doom's computer
I wonder what Doomguy thinks of the fact that the nuDoom universe has video games that actually depict his adventures in the classic universe.

>>6472714
You're talking as if all the other characters were super heavy on the lore.

>>6473018
Someone should make a Hexen campaign that relies on something other than finding 9 hidden switches

>>6472687
None of them are the waifu for me unfortunately, my heart belongs to the Quake 2 computer, every time I hear that monotone voice say those two simple words, it just makes my heart skip a beat.

>>6472687
You picked the wrong Quake girl.

>>6473197
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmhrKegm3p0

>>6473242
computer
updated

Durandals the fucking coolest

>>6472301
In case any linux-friends care, I want to share this bash script I wrote for myself as a PR/GLBoom+ launcher. It can be used interactively or through arguments only.

https://pastebin.com/D6yM5dDA

The idea is that it auto-applies sprite fixes and dssecret, as well as optional DEH patches and perk's DoomSFX. It also has a list of wads that it recognizes for which it applies the correct complevel, IWAD, and wad-specific fixes. If you play a WAD that's not recognized, it just asks you what cl and iwad to use. It also integrates demo playing/recording and passes any extra arguments directly to glboom. It also copies the final launch command to the clipboard in case you want to retry a demo recording right away after interactive mode

Keep in mind you should tell it where to find your pr/glboom binary in the first couple of lines. It should detect any wads in your DOOMWADPATH environment variable, or failing that, inside ~/.prboom-plus. Or just in the current directory.

It might not be terribly useful to anyone except myself, but I thought I'd share anyway, on the off chance that someone likes it. It should work just as well for Mac-friends. Don't know how much tinkering it would need for Windows-friends. If you feel like it, try to break it and let me know if you find anything wrong so I can fix it!

What's the advantage of PR/GLBoom+ over crispy?

>>6473307
You can play Boom-compatible maps in the former. You can't on the latter. You can make the former render the game at higher resolutions. You can't on the latter, just up to double-native resolution (+widescreen recently). Those are the main things that come to mind.

>>6473307
PrBoom supports boom mapping format, and MBF deh/bex extensions.
Wads like Community Chests 2-4, Whispers of Satan, Speed of Doom, Resurgence, Valiant, Sunlust, Ancient Aliens, and Eviternity are unplayable in Crispy.

>>6473245
>>6472687
>>6472715
>>6472914
>>6473242
You're ALL wrong.

>>6473465
Huh, Community Chest 1 doesn't require Boom? In the doom wiki page for it it says to the right that it's "Boom-compatible" but in the article proper it says it's for limit-removing. So which one is it?

>>6473310
>>6473465
Does having boom compatibility somehow detracts from vanilla accuracy? Is there any reason to use crispy over it, then?

cute

>>6473473
Both Hunter and Lucy are perfect in their own ways. One is 6'6" of sheer feminine muscle and bronze cleavage, the perfect Adonis-with-tits given a lightning gun and a nasty attitude, able to backflip with every jump and wanting nothing more than to crush every Sorg skull beneath the heel of her enormous metal boots. The other is a wobbling, cellulite-speckled lardo with an ass I want to fucking suffocate under and her own brand of Southern-fried justice to dish out, if she'd stop hitting on the other combatants. Totally opposite, extreme ends of the body spectrum. Man, where were all these people bitching about lack of body positivity back in '99?

>>6473494
No anon, I think you're misunderstanding.

You can use PR/GLBoom+ to play Doom/Doom2 vanilla and limit-removing maps in the correct compatibility setting and be completely accurate, just like Crispy.

You can also use PR/GLBoom+ to play Doom/Doom2 Boom and MBF format maps in the correct compatibility setting and be completely accurate. This is the part that Crispy can't do, Crispy only does vanilla and limit-removing.

The most commonly used -complevel arguments used with PR/GLBoom+ are the following:
>-complevel 2 for Doom 2
>-complevel 3 for The Ultimate Doom
>-complevel 4 for Final Doom
>-complevel 9 for Boom
>-complevel 11 for MBF

There's complevels from 0 to 17, but the ones listed above are ones you'll use 99% of the time. The others would be very special cases that you'll probably never encounter.

>>6473501
What if... they body swapped?

>>6473505
>and be completely accurate, just like Crispy.
But that's exactly what I'm asking. If it can be as accurate then what's the point of crispy? I'm just wondering if it has anything over PR/GLBoom+.

>>6473496
Treasure tech is cute in general. Lots of love went into every design

>>6473514
Some people like Crispy's quality of life features, for example sprite brightmaps (you can see demons' red eyes glowing in the dark, etc), randomly flipped corpses, among other things in the "Crispiness" menu. It has a lot of nice details that people enjoy.

The currently active fork of prboom apparently has plans to incorporate many of these quality of life/neat details into prboom, but that hasn't happened yet.

Anons I...I think I'm slowly getting into speedrunning Doom WADs

Send help, I don't know if I want to get sucked down into that rabbit hole

>>6473508
My enjoyment of fat Hunter would possibly be overridden by my fear/disgust of thin/muscular Lucy.

>>6473487
CC1 was limit removing.

>>6473530
Maturbate to Sandy and all will be ok.

>>6473546
Then why does it say this in the TXT file?
>Advanced engine needed : Boom/PrBoom or ZDoom

Ultima Underworld died for this.

>>6473558
At least raze is not java.

>>6473552
I think back then (2003), people didn't explicitly use the term "limit removing" yet. It recommended Boom because it removed vanilla limits. Maps were still made in vanilla format, as a requirement for the project was to not use any source port features.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/post/173755
>*No Boom specials and tags please.

>MAP27 of Scythe
>Erik makes you fight 4 cyberdemons with mandatory partial invisibility at the very end

What a cruel bastard. I love it.

What other WADs pull dick moves like this? Where it's obviously a dick move but you can't get mad at it if you die because it's still 100% on you for not dodging gud.

>>6473581
Damn Java, you only get hundreds of FPS on cradle to grave rather than thousands!

>>6473587
Thank you for clarifying anon

>>6473473
is that pit hair?

>>6473473
FUPA Queen

>>6473613
I'd let her queen me, if you catch my drift.

>>6473604
Though funnily enough, as a side effect of some of them using boom for testing, there are some rare bugs in regards to certain triggers, due to boom having changed behaviour. For example, while Map01 is finishable in crispy, the green armour bridge doesn't correctly go up.

>>6473520
Boom-compatible/MBF-compatible Crispy with OpenGL option would be God-tier

>>6473654
I mean, you're basically describing what the goal of the current prboom fork is. Crispy's author is working on the same fork.

>>6473594
>it's still 100% on you for not dodging gud
The partial invis adds randomness to their attacks so one rocket could be leading you and you run right into it. Or the three cyberdemons could split up, one of them walking into the wall, instead of all three staying in the center of the room. I had both of these happen to me while 100%-ing this map. You could just skip the cyberdemons, but you could also just skip the entire level and beat it in ~12 seconds using the speedrun skip

>>6473656
Which fork is this? I thought Graf had the only fork of PrBoom still in active development
> https://github.com/coelckers/prboom-plus

>>6473665
That's the fork I'm talking about. You can see that Fabian (Crispy guy) is also working on it in the commit log.

>>6473663
Oh I know. And the only way to prevail against that randomness is raw reflexes. If you get a rocket leading you and you fail to adjust course before smacking into it. Or at least it feels that way. I don't actually know how humanly possible it is to have such insane reflexes to save yourself from RNG. I haven't done UVMax speedruns of the level or anything so I don't know how bullshit it can get. I do know the UVSpeed skip you're talking about though

>>6473668
Oh, ty. I haven't looked at that thing in a while, I just saved the bookmark. I also don't know how to into github

>>6473672
The rocket travels at about 50 mph, and you're going about 30-40 while strafe-running, so dodging a perfectly-led rocket is beyond most humans. The only way to prevail against that randomness is to grind until you get a good run

>>6472687
Crash was Doomguy's military instructor, which means that she's older than him and most likely a milf.

I've been of my meds for a couple of days, then I took them and went to bed and had some sort of weird altered mind experience, so I tried to use it to get some ideas for Doom mapping. This is the result.

>>6473694
Thirties is 'milf' status now? I doubt she has any kids, look at those goddamn abs.

>>6473705
A tech panel set 8 units in the wall is really the result of mind-altering drugs? Seems pretty standard to me.

>>6473713
What can I say, it was pretty lame experience.

>>6473707
>those aren't abs, they're each individual fetuses forming inside her 6 wombs

got bored

>>6473707
>Thirties is 'milf' status now
Always has been. Around mid 30s to be more precise. Why? Probably because people on 4chan tends to lean on the younger side so mid 30s seems rather old.

>>6473705
Mate, I go to toilet and take a shit to come up with more creative things.

>>6473784
Go home and be a family man.

>download that one SC-55 soundfont and VirtualMIDISynth
>try to use it
>get this error
Wat do? Using this version specifically, don't know if there's a newer one
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/86422-so-i-updated-my-roland-sound-canvas-soundfont/

>>6473948
Patch93's is outdated. And if you're going out of your way to use VirtualMIDISynth, install the Roland emulator/Sound Canvas VA instead.

>>6473948
That's because it doesn't support sfpack, you need to decompress it to sf2. Patch93's is outdated anyways. And if you're going out of your way to use VirtualMIDISynth, install the Roland emulator/Sound Canvas VA instead.

>>6473948
Looks to be the wrong format, should be an .sf2 file.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J8-CgvC-As
There, the one from this video is better anyway.

>>6473948
You need to unpack the SFPack archive with the SFPack application. Yes, really.
http://www.personalcopy.com/sfpack.htm

>>6473967
>>6473969
Thanks, that new one sounds great. Drowns out the sound effects at its default volume but VirtualMIDISynth lets you lower that so it's perfect.

>Sunlust Map15
Goddamn this was a brutal map.

>>6473245
Those hips and thighs holy shit my dick my very male member

What is alt-fire on tommy gun in Blood good for? Is it just for people who didn't have mouse to turn around fast enough?

>>6474313
They probably couldn't come up with anything better and decided to make something that looks cool, usefulness be damned.

>>6472784
Based.

>>6472302
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=68667

Eternal Slayer, a new 3rd person melee mod.

>>6473565
Good.

>>6474402

Aah ahh, uuuh!

>>6473565
For what?

>>6474402
Not true 3D person. Slayer is just a HUD element.
So when it looks like a fireball goes past the slayer's right and into the screen, you still get hit, and the enemies very visibly attack not the slayer, but the camera.

There was one actual 3D person mod inspired in parts by Max Payne or some such, "Dark hunter" or something like that.

>>6474476
You can play it in Chasecam, which is *actually* 3D

>>6472501
That's great but your link for quake is wrong, please fix

>>6474496
I don't think that would solve the problem.

>>6473784
>finances
>research to unlock weapons
>crew
>permadeath for crew so extract your badly wounded guys or lose them
>stats
>stat increases between levels based on performance
>wounded people need to recover in the sickbay
>enemies keep getting stronger
>limited bonus for non-lethal enemy extraction
>base management?
Tricky but it could work.

>>6474525
Yes, it does. The only problem I have with the mod is that chasecam isn't on by default, enabling fake 3D by default.

>hm
>I want this part of the level to require an archvile jump but I don't know how to convey it
>oh wait I got it

>>6473501
Completely agree. Lucy is just as desirable as Hunter

>>6472302
Wrath Update 2+ Big Box
https://youtu.be/VmJc5ReteFQ

>>6474556
I love that snake cult looking helmet.

>>6474556
What wad is this?

>tfw love Marisa's work
>tfw he's mentally ill communist who has now been pumped full of estrogen

How many lives is this trend gonna destroy?

What are some great mapsets for Treasure Tech? Just played through Super Mayhem 17 with it and want more.

>>6474573
...what?

Does anyone remember a gameplay mod from around 2014~15 where you played in third person as some dude in all black, and the gameplay was based around dodging and bullet time? I believe there were some rpg elements too.

>>6474572
Eternal

>>6474573
She's a linux witch too and I love her. Would cuddle with.

>>6474579
Found it. It's called Black Warrior if anyone's curious. Seems abandoned though. https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?style=12&?f=43&t=53545

>>6474582
>she
>witch

You're exhibiting the linguistic symptoms of communist delusion. Seek help.

>>6474603
what? the fuck are you on about? go back to /x/

>>6474573
Narcissism and delusion is as enduring as mankind itself.

And even if we got to a transhuman period where you could actually choose, it would not matter at that point, there will probably be fags that identify as main sequence stars.

>>6474603
Whatever you say. More of that femcock for me then.

>>6474576
>>6474608
Marisa is a tranny doom modder that posts here from time to time about her current projects. She has a trip too.

>>6474610
Cool but nobody cares if a modder is a tranny you fucking loser

>>6474603
>>6474573
I am mentally ill communist myself but my communist satanic bible says literally nothing about pumping retards full of estrogen until they kill themselves and I do not approve such actions.

>>6474610
>her
You're exhibiting the linguistic symptoms of globalist delusion. Seek help.

>>6474616
...woops, i thought you were the same anon as >>6474603 , I didn't read thoroughly enough, woops

Remember when we had janitors on this board?

>>6474625
Me neither.

>>6474608
It's /pol/, not /x/.

>>6474572
Eternal DOOM, a.k.a. "how do we make these switch hunts more obtuse than Hexen?"
It's pretty great aesthetically at points though

>>6474629
Nah, this is more /v/, coming into video game threads and bitching about stupid shit in an attempt to derail the thread.
He succeeded.

>>6473473
>tfw I'm a chubby chaser and find her somewhat attractive

>>6474625
There was the one guy who squatted in the threads but he said he wasn't actually a mod and was using a borrowed account. So now hes gone and thats why some very specific trolls can post with impunity now.

>>6474625
Yeah, once they banned me ten or twelve times in the row.
>I ban this bad troll for 15 hours
>oh no he came back a minute later and bragging about evading his ban
>better ban him for 16 hours that time
Literally unable to learn.

>>6474427
"USA!"

>>6474640
>get banned
>ban evade
>announce ban evasion and further pursue off topic posting
Dumb ESL poster.

>>6474645
That's how you deal with these people, lowly scum should know their place. Even the fact that they are literally named "janitors" does not goes through their thick heads, they still think they have some power. I could just evade ban and keep quiet, but I want the fact that they are powerless to do anything to sink in.

>>6474653
So (you)'re admitting you're part of the problem. A shitposting addict.

>>6474653
You're not much better getting such a power trip from just ban evading.

The fact people here prefer to shitpost and have off topic discussions proves how outdated doom and retro fpses are. It's time to move on.

>>6474630
>TeamTNT does switch hunts
At least they were self-aware. Eternal is such a fitting name.

>>6474670
Move on to what, exactly?

The fact some retards here come to shitpost and have off topic discussions in a thread dedicated to retro fpses proves how useless those people are. It's time to move on and do something more useful.

>>6474657
>>6474663
Ah poop, I was typing a lengthy rebuttal and I accidentally lost it and don't feel like typing it again, so I will just announce that you both are retards and I banged ur mums.

>>6474680
>>v

>>6474687
FUCK I FUCKED IT UP

Is water rising properly a Marathon 2/infinity thing? Im playing cryptic passage and they try to do it but its just the floor rising so you cant swim. Does flood zone in duke3d have water rising? I cant remember

>>6474682
You're not even that committed to your shitposting habits then. You're pathetic.

>>6474693
Not sure if it counts but Half-Life can do that sort of thing

>>6474561
This looks so... meh.

>>6474682
Ah poop, I was typing a lengthy rebuttal and I accidentally lost it and don't feel like typing it again, so I will just announce that you are a superretard and I banged ur dad too.

>>6474402
Ah yes the dude whose made the same mod 3 times now

>>6474703
2.
The first ninja doom became the 3D Ninja Doom mod

>>6474698
Youre right im dumb i should have specified more in the earlier doom era

>>6474696
You're not in position to call me pathetic because you're a faggot, you're mum is whore, yor dad is dickgirl and your first GF was your pedo uncle.

>>6474702
And you suck man penis.

>>6474693
>Does flood zone in duke3d have water rising? I cant remember
Yes it did. Or maybe lowering. Definitely had water level changing.

>>6474545
Is there any Chasecam mod that has a horizontal offset setting? ZCChasecam and ZK-Chase don't have such option.

>>6472301
New WRATH: Aeon of Ruin update released, founder's edition big box and release dates announced.

https://youtu.be/VmJc5ReteFQ

Patch notes: https://steamcommunity.com/app/1000410/discussions/0/1740010344359092915/

>>6474635
That makes at least two of us, although I'd remove 'somewhat.'

>>6474715
Personally i just use the vanilla GZDoom chase key

>>6474717
>15 levels in a finished game

Why did quake mp have to die? I just wanna frag.

>>6474653
You know that most people on this website hate you and people like you, right?

>>6474730
people moved on to TF2

>>6474735
Impossible. I am one of the most adored people right there.

>>6474736
I think most TF2 players are on Open Fortress now, so TF2 is only a quarter full now.

>>6474725
The levels are kinda huge. I've been playing the new one for almost an hour and I haven't even been exploring. The three previous to this are about 30-45 minutes long.

I wonder if it would be possible for Shithesda to give original Dooms a Super Mario Maker treatment? I'm not talking about something like SnapMap, but an actual level editor where you can upload and download maps.

>>6474725
aren't they big levels, and in hubs?

>>6474736
But I dont want to plat tf2, I wanna play Quake DAMNIT!

>>6474739
The game looks cool but like Ion Fury it has no bite.
Maybe I am just jaded.

Or maybe not I liked amid evil.

>>6474735
Very possible. I am one of the biggest faggots right there.

>>6474738
You're either a loony or really bad at estimating numbers.

>>6472914
no woah-mo?

>>6474738
not retro but holy FUCK Open Fortress is so good, Im surprised but very thankful that it wasn't dead on arrival like most MP source mods

>>6474750
Open Fortress has Quake styled bhop. It's a lil weird feeling at first, but you easily get used it real quick, and it's super fun

>>6474763
How weird feeling? I'd expect it to be identical given Source is still running Q1 movement code and supports proper bunny hopping out of the box unless the devs specifically change it (eg TF2 not having buffered jump inputs and having bhoppings speed gain severely reduced early in the game's life).

>>6472987
>>6472997
Marathon is completely batshit insane and nearly incomprehensible, and I love it for that. Being led around by higher powers that know what's going on and refuse to tell you why they're throwing you into horrifying situations is part of the fun.

>>6474763
I can't even get the mod to install. Tortoisesvn just hangs for a long time before eventually failing saying the request timed out.

>>6474717
>patch notes says "Increased the responsiveness of player movement"
I wonder what that entails? I haven't played it with the patch yet, but hopefully that means bhopping/strafejumping or whatever it technically has feels better.

>>6474763
Does Open Fortress have grenades?

>>6474751
IMO looks better than Ion Fury.

>>6474781
Sure.

But I love how Ion Fury looks and even plays. Shame about everything else.

>>6474675
hell

>>6474730
I don't believe you.

>>6474769
Idk at first it felt like it was a little harder to accelerate at first. It's still kind of like that, but you get used it it. Plus jumping up sloped areas feels a little clunky. I think overall it's more based on airstrafing to gain speed than Q1. That or my airstrafing skills are somewhat rusty.

>>6474772
I think that's just because the SVN is down for some reason, happened to me when I tried updating it to the latest version. I'd suggest joining the official Discord server to keep up to date with it in case there's news of an SVN outage or update in general.

>>6474779
There's throwing dynamite

>>6472602
You'll get used to it with time, gotta get your VR legs as they say. Same guy ported quake, quake 2, and hl to quest, worth your time to check them out (quake online works but have fun trying to compete with kbm players).

>>6474770
Just the background on the security officer is cool as fuck
>not a heroic man who rose the ranks or a dutiful soldier
>just a soldiers corpse they stuffed with implants to make him strong
>so strong in fact theyre kind are considered WMDs
>ends up going insane and remembering the memories of the dead soldier they used to make him
>no alliegance just constantly being used and abused turning on former allies at just because a comptuer terminal told him to
>stuffed with ancient alien tech just to survive timeline hopping

Since people were talking about her a while ago, Marisa's new gameplay mod looks fun as hell. She's playtesting it on twitch and it looks like some insane fun.

Am I the only one who gets hungry when I chainsaw a caco?

>>6474815
>playing anything made by whores
What a simp

>>6472997
>It starts with generic "oh noes teh aliens!"
That's actually a cool way to start. You do run the risk of giving the impression that it's just gonna be "teh aliens" by having that right off the bat, but if done right you can really fuck with the expectations of the player by building off of that and making some deep shit that makes them think "oh shit it's not just 'teh aliums' any more," which I'd assume Marathon does anyway. I always thought the idea of taking generic tropes in fiction and building a world and making actual lore around that was a neat idea, kind of like The Venture Bros. how it started as a parody of the boy adventurer cartoon trope, and eventually started doing this parody of super villians and bad guys by having the Guild of Calamitous Intent and the OSI have actual rules and regulations with how good guys and bad guys fight. Obviously that's more so done for comedic purposes, but the idea of super villians having their own organization and actual rules on how to fight good guys is both hilariously ironic but also really fascinating to see play out.

>>6474782
But if IF looks good and plays good, what's the problem with it?

>"Some of the AI in the sidekicks was flawed but if you took the time to learn how they work and react, then they're great. Daikatana is not a bad game, it just became a victim of hype. How could it have lived up to the hype, to Doom and Quake? I wanted to make an FPS for FPS experts and maybe we could've not thrown tiny flying enemies at the player in the first level but that was misunderstood by reviewers who didn't give the game a chance."
-John Romero

Is he right?

>>6474824

It has no identity.

>>6474818
When I punch a Pain Elemental actually. Just wanna grab that big meatball.

>>6474829
No. The game is potentially unwinnable if your sidekick decides to never unstick themselves from a ladder

>>6474829
Did you know Romero confirmed that the hole on the back of the Cacos is an asshole? Also that little black dot in the Imp's crotch in it's dead sprite is indeed an asshole. He said blame Kevin Cloud, not him.

I know that is unrelated but I heard him answer that in a Q&A recently and this reminded me of it.

Why do people hate so much on Daikatana but defend Quake 2? Am I out of the loop for some dumb meme?

>>6474829
He'll say anything to sell a product or get out of trouble.

>>6474823
Well in Marathon the Pfhor (the main evil alien race) are the central part and outside of it are other world building things happening. Also Marathon doesnt just treat them as mindless monsters. In 2 and infinity you visit areas occupied by the Pfhor and you read terminals made by high ranking officals that let you in on their politics a bit. Theyre a highly militaristic but very bureaucratic race of slavers that take honor and duty very seriously. But in infinity its mainly all about defeating a lovecraftian chaos god

>>6474840
Why does King Romero make you seeth so much?

>>6474837
Do Cacos have two assholes then? There's two holes back there.

>>6474849
Cacussy

>>6474839
Quake 2 may be boring and uninspired, but it actually works, unlike Daikatana.

>>6474829
Isn't that a pretty old quote?
Anyway, the game shipped with a lot of bugs, and the first level is really not very appealing or fun, even if overall, Dai-Katana is mostly an ok game (assuming you patch out all the bugs), with all the hype and delay (for the time), I fail to see how else it would be received. An "ok" product with a lot of problems out the gate will not be better received for being hyped.

The way the AI works (or frankly, just doesn't), is one of the game's big flaws, there's no getting around it.

>>6474849
I think so yes. One for liquid waste and one for solid perhaps. The guy just asked "Is that hole on the back of the Cacodemon..." and Romero answer "Oh, yep! Yep, that where he poops. The little black square between the Imps legs too. Sorry Kevin Cloud did that, not me!"

>>6474851
Pls no

>>6474839
When was Dai-Katana ever widely well regarded? Where? Some people dislike Quake 2 a lot, but a lot of it is forced memes too.

>>6474853
It's from the late 2000s

>>6474859
So like 2008 or 2009? That's pretty long ago, and not all that many years after Dai-Katana fell on its face.

>>6474848
No seething. He's just been damaged beyond repair. Much like any other sudden success person.

Did id ever have any ideas for female demons in Doom? Or was it always male demons in all instances? I haven't read the Doom Bible or Masters of Doom or anything like that, so I don't know if they thought of some female demon that got scrapped.

>>6474861
I am fairly sure he still holds the same opinion, in every interview I have seen even the ones where he is gray, he basically makes excuses for Daikatana, acknowledges the AI was bad in the companions but still defends the game as a whole and says he is proud of it. He always apologized profusely for the ad of course as well.

>>6474824
Doesn't have much substance, some levels feel like vehicles for gag signs & memes.

>>6474858
GBC Daikatana isn't bad at all.

>>6474862
SIGIL proved he's still got it and was pretty based
>>6474863
Never, no. Closest thing to that is Tom Hall using digitized actors (people around the office) of both male and female versions of the enemies in Rise of the Triad, but that feature was scrapped due to memory requirements of the system that randomly chose which sprite to use and was when he was at Apogee anyway

>>6474864
Well, yeah, but that's not he same as the quote presented here, where he makes excuses for the AI itself, when the AI was one of the problems. I can see why he defends it too, not just because the effort put into it (however much incorrect effort was part of it), but because the game has good sides to it, and isn't without merit.

>>6474868
Isn't that a completely different game which was outsourced?

>>6474871
Honestly it comes off like he doesn't want to tear down or shit on whoever coded that AI because he always sort of dances around it. When pressed he will say it was bad AI but he will also say if you learn how to play with them they can be fun

>>6474862
>He's just been damaged beyond repair
I don't agree with that.

>>6474870
Sigil if anything cements that one of his best talents has been making levels.

>>6474872
Yep. Romero said he wanted it to be like Link's Awakening and that was about all the guidance he gave

>>6474829
Very false. Its not even a decent game like say Sin or Kingpin.

>>6474863
The mancubus is canonically female.

>>6474870
Not like a mapper is going to forget how to map.

By the way to the people who haven't played Kingpin yet please play Kingpin thanks

>>6474895
It surely has a certain charm. I wanted more in that weird dieselpunk universe. Ugly but with personality.

>>6474893
Prove it.

>>6474893
>MANcubus, taking from the real word succubus
>female
He's supposed to be a male prostitute in Hell.

>>6474903
Okay maybe not in Doom 2 but it was a cut Doom 3 monster https://twitter.com/SlappyCromwell/status/1007281808646594563

Well what do you know, I got banned until June 27th. And yet I am still somehow posting. Even worse, my dear jannie friend, after you ban me again, this time probably until June 28th, I will evade ban once again but this time I will not announce it. And you won't be able to do a thing about it. How does it makes you feel? You don't need to answer, I just want to plant seeds of doubt in your soul.

Oh, by the way, if any of you have compassion for him, know that he banned me for ban evasion, not for my flagrant shitposting. He doesn't gives two flying fucks about keeping this thread clean, all he cares about is threats to his imaginary power.

>>6474908
Maybe the leaked E3 demo has a model hidden away.
>pictured: Doom2 mancubus
Oh. Just journos having a laugh.

>>6474920
Can I suck you massive cock?

>>6474929
Probably will have to wait until June 29th. And it's pretty small, actually.

>>6474717
>february 2021
>$30 for 15 levels
3DR can fuck off. Ion Fury was already pretty damn expensive for what it was.

>>6474920
Are you the guy who always shits on HL?

>>6474717
Sometimes I wish 3DR stayed dead. This is just embarrassing.

>>6474950
Eww, no. I may be a shitposter, but I have standards.

>>6474950
No, he posted some repulsive photo of a furry dinosaur ass

>>6474965
Also not me. Though the ass itself wasn't that repulsive, real problem was what it was attached to.

>>6473197
I wonder if Doom 3 ever had such an easter egg?

>>6474971
sorlag is fine

Anyone played the new System Shock demo that just dropped yet?

>>6474976
Just Super Turkey Puncher

>>6474992
Is it available for non-paypigs?

Can Quake 1.5 be made to work on Quakespasm?

>>6473197
That's something I've thought about in fiction before rhetorically: if the work in question takes place in a time/location where the medium it's presented in (books, movies, video games etc) exists, is it possible that the exact same work of fiction that details all of the events in the story exists in that story's universe? Like how there's a Double Dragon arcade cabinet in the Double Dragon movie?

And if it's a live action movie that takes place in a universe where real life actors could possibly exist, do the actors that play the movie's characters also exist in this universe as well? For example if there's actually a Keanu Reeves in the universe of The Matrix, or if Jim Carrey also exists in the universe of the Ace Ventura movies. Really it's just junk food for thought though, if anything.

Pic related, btw

>>6475010
can i cook pizza in my freezer?

>>6475000
Nice trips, but I don't think so.

Video of the demo that went up about an hour ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV-8cdOXubM

>>6474985
Sorlag a cute!

>>6475000
>what if there was an indie game dev that took their passion and career for making games really seriously and deeply cared about their work and making sure it can be enjoyed by all, but every time they put up a demo on their patreon or something they kept findomming the people who supported them by making them feel like they had small dicks cus they paid money for their demo
that would unironically make me laugh

>>6475019
Technically you can, you can unplug the fridge, defrost the freezer and put a hot plate inside. It won't be a good pizza and you most likely ruin the freezer, but it can be done.

What's the 100 gecs of doom wads? Want to try something different.

>>6475060
Wow.wad or Gothic99

>>6475046
>>6474992
>make a demo for the game to show it off to public so that they give you money and buy the game
>only available to those who already paid, thus defeating its purpose

>>6475083
It just means they are not confident.

>>6475027
I want to hug her!

>>6475026
Looks pretty terrible

>>6475010
>>6475019
>>6475049
Didn't the guy promised to release it on 'spasm at some point and then forgot about it?

>>6475089
Yes! Cuddle with sorlag to keep her warm!!

>>6475026
my eyes holy shit

There needs to exist a SCUMMVM, but for FPS games

>>6475000
It's on GOG and Steam so I think so? I don't know if you had to pay already to play it

>>6475108
Give it 2 decades and Graf will have made something like that.

>>6475108
That's a retarded idea.

>>6475026
SS2 in dark engine looks much more aesthetic than this.

I love the cyberpunk in SS2, and the clean textures. Playing the game again with new clean texture mods is ultra comfy.

>>6475121
Yeah ss2 looked pleasent, this is an assault on the senses

>>6475096
FUCK Sorlag to keep her warm.

>>6474626

>>6474829
No. That's total damage control. "Flawed" is a huge understatement. And there's nothing to "misunderstand" about a terrible first impression.

whats's a good vanilla megawad? (besides the ones everyone has played like memento mori)

>>6475173
God fucking damn it name the ones youve played people

>>6475173
1 Monster Megawad (but it's actually boom compatible, JOKES ON YOU)

>>6472594
love when the hud takes up more space than the game and displays three (3) pieces of useful information

>>6472963
"alright guys, what did people like about Doom/Heretic?"

"definitely running around an empty level over and over for 20 mins looking for a small switch in a dark corner"

"and we'll call it Hexen"

Here's your monthly "Play Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II"

>>6475229

>>6475352
The problem with your post though is that >>6475229 is actually right.

>>6475352
I just want to say that I really love that image, and it makes me giggle every time someone posts it.

>>6475387
Save it, my friend! It's all yours.

Unsure if this is the proper thread, but I want to play some Thief FMs, and I cannot get FM Select to work.

I've installed TFix 1.27. Whenever FM Select asks about creating an archive folder, I pick one that is not FMs, but I always get the error "Failed to create the temp/cache directory 'FMs/.fmsel.cache'."

No idea what to do.

>>6475375
>game: "A door has opened on x level"
>players: "WTF what am i supposed to do??"
Almost any time you press a switch in Hexen it tells you what it did. Its not that confusing

>>6475229
Hexlet detected

>>6475387
Made that one, like a square peg in a round hole

>>6475446
>You have solved one half of the puzzle.
>You have solved 5 quarters of the puzzle.
>You have solved one 96th of the puzzle.

>>6475446
I wish the goals were a bit more "diverse" (I hate that word). What about finding and bringing different artifacts somewhere(to complete a mechanism or activate something) or finding and killing a specific monster...anything but flipping a dozen switches on 5 different maps.

>>6475485
Thats a fair point. The scripting system in Hexen is pretty extensive, there are a lot of possibilities for creative puzzles.
Hexen 2 has more interesting puzzles (practically no switch hunting) but many people find it equally confusing if not moreso.

>>6475427
I knew how but I forget, wait around for a thief thread or start one and I am sure an anon will help.

>>6475427
some user rights thing maybe? try moving the whole folder around or creating the cache folder yourself. could be antivirus too (fmsel works from a dll)

>>6474738
Open Fortress is cool but when I check it it has a few hundred people playing at best, TF2 is always in the tens of thousands of players.

Is blacked out missing texture something that modern ports do or was it always like this? I thought it's supposed to produce different kind of fuckery.

>>6474715
"Advanced" chasecam I wrote for LTG, but standalone: https://marisakirisa.me/tmp/chasecam_m.pk3

Still needs improvement, but works. I just need to wrestle Graf for that P_AimCamera scriptification.

>>6475568
Hall of mirror effect? Nah, that's in the original due to how things were originally rendered.

>>6475568
that's a fucked up linedef most likely

>>6475573
No the Tutti-Fruity Effect

of course they send xaser's finest to come gank me

>>6475583
Why is there a tower this tall?

>>6475583
What the hell is this?

>>6474561
So uh... where is this new level? I wandered around the hub for over 5 min and didnt see it anywhere

>>6475576
It's a linedef with missing upper texture, that's all. I was just curious if it was always handled like this.

>>6475579
Same for that

>>6474895
I loved it as a kid but I'm afraid of revisiting it and finding out it's a lot worse than I remember. I think that was the first time I saw the ability to purchase upgrades for weapons in a FPS, and IIRC it even changed the model, I thought that was very cool.

i wouldn't alarm you but i think it's has you in it's sight.

>>6475585
>Why is there a tower this tall?
russians are imaginative.

>>6475589
colorful hell is full of shit like this

>>6474717
So is that like, 15 levels total or 15 levels in addition to however many levels are in the EA version up to that point?

Is there any reason why having a sector of negative height (Floor higher than ceiling) is bad?

>>6475632
Probably won't render correctly. Probably won't be able to traverse it.

>>6475671
It's not supposed to be traversable. It's supposed to be a very tall patform that lowers and lowers for a long time until it opens a pit where you can drop and exit the level - I don't want players to be able to instantly run for exit during the final confrontation. Seems to be working fine but I wonder about possible issues.

>>6475583
Thats one spooky caco

>>6475680
I guess just try it out in various situations and see what happens.

>>6475628
oh look, it's the sphere of exsanguination

>>6475240
BASED

>>6474863
Doom 64 was supposed to have a new demon (also theorized to have been a new design for the Arch-vile) that looked like a Giger inspired woman humanoid but it was scrapped.

Playthrough video of map17 of 200 minutes of /vr/ is up.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=EuHUFjP8eto

>>6475585
Not a bad megawad idea. Big fat tower. Get to the top!
Going Up

>>6475753
Is it possible to draw skyline in such a way that it would actually look like you are getting higher and higher?

>>6475718
>"Give me a hug, mortal"

>>6475783
I don't want to.

>>6475783
I would.

>>6475718
>>6475783

>>6475173
Akeldama is getting close to an idgames release.

Doom 2 > System Shock

>>6475834
can i get a "hell yeah brother"

What is your favourite fast-paced fun music and what is your favourite spooky atmospheric music from Doom?

>>6475783
yes, mistress

>>6472301
Doom, Doom 2 Heretic or Hexen, but in most levels you have different missions which change the course of the game as you either succeed or fail them.

>Angery

>>6475767
Anything is possible with trickery.

>>6475919
Try it with RetroShader

>>6474630
>More obtuse than Hexen
Eh, I think Hexen was still worse about it. The hub system makes it incredibly easy to lose track of things, IMO.
I'd also argue that only a handful of maps in Eternal Doom were actually Hexen tier with the switch hunting. Some were more inline with the kind of puzzles found in TNT and Icarus, in that they were more contained within the area. And plenty of levels were simply nothing more than just requiring secrets for progression.

>>6475783
no way korax

>>6475783
no more hugs, will

>>6475957
>blurshit
no thanks

>>6476019
YOU OWE ME, MORTAL

>>6475783
O-Ok.....

>>6475783

>>6472301
What are your absolute favorite meme/cheesy/just plain good transcribed MIDIs that put a smile on your face?

Trying to gather a full WAD's worth of them so I can load it when I feel like fucking around. Got these 14 so far.

>>6474839
compare and contrast the first levels of both. In Quake 2 you get a shotgun almost immediately, gibbing cyborgs and drones while Hiro is in a swamp fighting pests. Both have great music tho

>>6476152
SMaNS is ultra memeworthy
Bring Me to Life is pretty good but kind of cheesy
Danger zone is cheesy
Night of Fire is excellent
Here's another good one, unfortunately it's 24 minutes long (because it's echoes, duh) http://www.sortmusic.com/_p/pink-floyd-midi-file,tiEchoes,len.html
KoD has some good originals namely "Fight to the End" http://www.angelfire.com/punk4/knightriderofdoom/midis/KoD-Fight_to_the_end.mid

So I need help with something that maybe one of you guys would be willing to help me on

Working away from home so all I have is my phone, I am really wanting to listen to this interview with Romero at work tonight (Like two hours long) but I cannot find any site that will actually rip the audio to mp3, it just gives an error. I know it's asking a lot but if one of you lads would be willing to do it and put it up here for me that would be awesome. Gotta sleep for a few hours before work and don't have time to fuck with it anymore

https://youtu.be/cDQ2tqyp8KE

Sorry to ask such boomer ass shit boys

>>6476247
Does it have to be mp3 or is any audio format fine?

>>6476275
Anything I can play on my android phone, yeah

I will say though even if i shit on the dude making the third person melee mods for doom i think its a neat idea. I like the idea of DMC but doom the thing is the enemies would have to be changed significantly

>>6476247
sure anon no problem, here you go
https://mega.nz/file/a8U3jI5C#Jynoa70t0qW-xUoMfePuBi2-RlpuExm43gu9BoU_g_U

For the future, this thing can do exactly what you wanted
https://youtube-dl.org/
I just copypasted the URL there and it gave me the audio real quick

>>6476247
>>6476291
A tad too late, but if you don't want to bother with mega here it is: https://files.catbox.moe/77vvpy.mp3

still no good angled Doom Eternal Plasma Rifle sprite

>>6476351
then fuckin make one

>>6476450

What are some good reasons to not finish a megawad?

>>6476487
"I don't feel like playing this anymore."

>>6476487
When you've reached a point where you are not enjoying it. Simple as that.

>>6476487
slaughtershit

>>6476487
When ADHD kicks in and forces you to do something else and never return to it.

>>6476351
There's one in zdoom forums' general sprite thread, but it's the microwave beam version and there's only two sprites

>>6476512
get filtered

>>6476614
Maybe the creator should learn how to make engaging maps

>>6476635
They did. You just got filtered.

>>6476487
When it stops treating me like a baby, and becomes too much for little ol' me :(

Guys I can't believe it, I was playing Doom and I just reached E1M7, and there's so many enemies >.< There's almost 200! I didn't remember Doom being so slaughter!! What happened, why couldn't they just be reasonable and keep E1M1 enemy counts? This is absurd!

Should a novice mapper concentrate on making maps for Doom 1 first, and then move on to Doom 2?

Or should you start with all the options your disposal?

>>6476684
>slaughtershit means high enemy count
Based retard

>>6476730
Slaughter is when I die in a map. I don't like dying. I'm good at game. If I die, map is bad.

>>6476649
>over 30
>video games
>treated like a baby
There's a problem here.

>>6476751
Yes.

>>6474863
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>>6475718
Are you guys all forgetting that the Spider Mastermind is canonically a she? It says so in the manual. It's why people call her spider momma.

>>6476727
you can make garbage fights with both, but it's easier to make fun fights with doom 2, so go doom 2
if you want doom 1's textures, there's a pack on realm667 for that, but it might be zdoom-only (if it uses TX_START/TX_END or TEXTURES, it's zdoom-only)

>>6476793
>zdoom-only
nah, I'll pass, but thanks for the heads-up

>>6476798
I said it might be
having checked, it isn't