/vr/ - Retro Games

>>6464837
=== NEWS ===

[5-24]Smooth Blood released, its like Smooth Doom but for Blood
https://www.moddb.com/mods/smoothblood

[5-23] Punishment, an episodic replacement for the first Doom
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/114613-punishment-an-episode-1-replacement-for-doom/

[5-23] Anon shares some Sandy Peterson videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwV3uwM19EY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlSb1esFt0A

[5-22] La Tailor Girl updated
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=58343&start=405#p1152235

[5-22] Dark Forces DeHacker updated to v1.3
http://df-21.net/

[5-22] Realm667 repository submissions are on hiatus
https://www.realm667.com/index.php/en/home/archiv/17-site-news/2259-repository-submissions-on-hiatus

[5-22] BuildGDX now runs Shadow Warrior as WangGDX
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaAUGs_3JJA

[5-20] Force Engine introduced, a Jedi Engine replacement for Dark Forces and Outlaws
https://theforceengine.github.io/
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/114497-the-force-engine-jedi-engine-portreplacement/

[5-20] Doom 64 Morph Sound release
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/114534-morph-sound-64-enhancement-for-doom-64-ex-retribution-gec-master-edition-and-nightdives-re-release/

[5-20] Universal Gameplay Tweaker released
https://github.com/jekyllgrim/Universal-Gameplay-Tweaker/releases/tag/1.0

[5-19] Sergeirocks100 is hosting a mapping contest for Satanic Infestation
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/113234-satanic-infestation-100-open-and-public-domain-iwad-project-current-version-v004-mapping-contest-being-held/?page=14&tab=comments#comment-2131841

[5-19] Sandy Petersen will be doing an AMA on Reddit on May 20th
https://twitter.com/SandyofCthulhu/status/1262477054689378304

[5-19] Treasure Tech released.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=66995
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfqaNccEinI

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I have finished that room.

Best Bobby Prince track?

Best Lee Jackson track?

Best James Paddock track?

oops.

Anyone tried out QuestZDoom yet? I played the first three maps of DOOM1’s E1 today, I neee to play on a higher difficulty because it was way too easy on HMP. Lots of fun though. I’m a purist that plays ChocolateDoom on software rendering without vertical look, but this seems promising.

>>6464869
NOT THE HECKIN LOLITARINOS!

>>6464839
>Smooth Blood released
So other than Doom and Blood, what games got the smooth treatment?

Is Fresh Supply worth playing yet or is it still inaccurate as fuck? I don't really care about if it's fully autistically every glitch intact accurate but stuff like enemy resistances/weaknesses to certain weapons, enemy behaviour/AI, etc. is a pretty big deal.

>>6464837
Duke 3D but you are now Robocop.

Well the Daina follower is happening
I GUESS

>>6464921
It's playable and I had zero issues playing it.
Unfortunately collision's fucked in a way where you cant get crushed to death. I would recommend Fresh Supply more for mods, though.

>>6464921
Its still inaccurate in ways such as the coloring of certain areas and a few-several rendering glitches, I think. Not sure if there are damage inconsistencies though.

>>6464869
>>6464925
>the inventory icon

>>6464925
One step further to make the ultimate doom porn mod.

Or at least more sexy than hdoom.

>>6464837
Can we add Sonic Mayhem's alternate Quake 1 soundtrack to the links in the OP?

If you're not familiar, the guy who did the soundtrack for Quake 2, Sonic Mayhem, also did an alternate soundtrack for Quake 1. It was sending this in to Romero in 96 that got him the job doing Quake 2s soundtrack. It's called Methods of Destruction and only bits and pieces leaked for years and he was reluctant to talk about or release it because it was his first project and he was embarassed by it (it actually kicks ass but many artists are like this with early work). It eventually leaked, thanks to Romero leaked his copy through a friend, and Sonic Mayhem eventually relented after the fact and said he was cool with it being out there.

This soundtrack is more the style one would expect from iD at the time and is much better than Reznor's ambient soundtrack.

You can download it here:
http://p-l-m.blogspot.com/2012/04/sonic-mayhem-methods-of-destruction.html

Or the whole thing is on YouTube, this is the first track. (It's the only one that has voice samples like this also but I think it works):
https://youtu.be/Qxrf0mF7J78

>>6464867
>Best Bobby Prince track?
The Dave D. Taylor Blues
>Best Lee Jackson track?
Departure, though all his tracks are kickass
>Best James Paddock track?
Didn't even know about him prior to this post

>>6464948
Best work those guys ever did was on Rise of the Triad

>>6464949
<fastway.mid intensifies>

>>6464941
>much better than reznor
No

>>6464540
Setting compatibility to Boom fixed it. I had it set on Doom beforehand (which is what it's usually set to). Thanks!

>>6464930

>>6464923
>"Bite my shiny metal ass you creep"
>"01000101 01100001 01110100 00100000 01110011 01101000 01101001 01110100 00100000 01100001 01101110 01100100 00100000 01100100 01101001 01100101 00101110"

Basado

>>6465001
>"Good night, Monkey!"
>"Come on, monkey fuck!"
Was John Romero secretly Freiza?

>>6464948
>>Best James Paddock track?
>Didn't even know about him prior to this post
He's probably the most prominent midi artist of the Doom community. He was even John Romero's first choice for getting midis in Sigil.

>>6464867
>Prince
Goin Down the Fast Way, of course
If you’re implying Doom-specific, then Sign of Evil
>Jackson
Grabbag, as vanilla as it may be
>Paddock
I haven’t heard anything outside SIGIL, so E5M1

>>6465061
I’m retarded, Fast Way was Lee
Favorite Bobby Prince song is Sign of Evil then

>>6464867
>Bobby Prince
"Sinister" from Doom E2M6 and E4M7
>Lee Jackson
"Plasma" from Duke Nukem 3D E2L8
>James Paddock (Jimmy)
"Petrichor (Blood of the Stone)" from Back To Saturn X E2M24
>Stuart Rynn (Stewboy)
"Day of Mourning" from Resurgence Map31

>>6465001
>game houses like this don't exist anymore
Why live?

>>6465001
Carmack wrote a program that would run unseen in the background but would log how much time actual work was being done and put it on Romero's workstation without his knowledge and when Carmack checked it the first week it was on there it showed he only spent 1.5 hours working on Quake, the rest of the time was spent chatting on IRC and deathmatching in Doom 2,

Been while since i've sprited for something.
might be rough in some edges but i am quite happy!

>>6464965
reznor's joke of a soundtrack is just mindless droning aside from the track that plays when you finish an episode

>>6465101
kys

>>6465101
No, parallel dimensions beats any of sonic mayhems q1 songs. Theyre Q2 OST is good. Their musical style doesnt fit Q1 at all though. Trent embodied the strange and nightmarish feeling of Q1 perfectly.

Damn, i really dont like Monster Bait

>>6465101
>mindless droning
It's not meant to be heavy rock music.

>>6465101
You're probably the type of a retard that dislikes Quake 2.

>>6465137
Anon...if he prefers Sonic Mayhems q1 replacement i doubt he dislikes q2

>>6464941
>and is much better than Reznor's ambient soundtrack.

Whoa whoa, lets not say things we will regret later.

>>6465101
Sonic Mayhem is more suited for the industrial cyberness of Q2 and 3, not dingy castles and caverns
If you really don’t like the OST, at least replace it with Ghosts I-IV

>cerberus cant get out of the small indent hes in and runs around in a circle
>just ammp dump the tesla gun
Epic boss battle

>>6465095
No kickback?

>>6465212
It's a sprite that is similar to the plasma rifle, you can make the kickback with just Offset and Pitch changes.

>>6464929
>>6464921
I found that the fire took forever to burn the fatasses in FS compared to GDX, which is really noticable mid-episode 2 where you encounter a lot and have lots of aerosol.

>>6464837
ma name

dook slowcum

>>6465271
Puke Cookem

>>6465271
Dooki Nooki

>>6464867
>Bobby
Aliens Say Your Prayers (Duke Nukem 3D)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37rXEegSnY0

>Lee
Going Down The Fast Way (Rise Of The Triad)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FA0pPKzSeBQ

>Jimmy
Astral Dreadnought (The Plutonia Experiment 2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfgxmzDV_gs

These are kind of hard picks for me, because they've made so many great tracks.

>>6464941
>much better than Reznor
No way, fag. Quake 1's soundtrack could have stood some occasional higher tempo tracks just to balance things out, like Doom did, but it does atmospheric very well.

>>6464948
Paddock does a lot of music for megawads.

>>6465121
Correct. It's weird and otherworldly, and it fits perfectly.

>>6464837
That pic is dumb, Mario should be helping them (and failing miserably).

>>6464886
I would give my left nut for Smooth Quake.

>>6464941
Can you stop insisting? You sound like an advertisement bot at this point.

>>6465001
Bunch of young guys having the time of their lives. This is why people give a fuck.

For anyone being slightly annoyed by wanggdx not seeing twindragon.grp I got it to work by renaming it TD.grp.

>>6465303
There were domestic insurgents working against the regime in Italy at the time, it's no stretch to imagine that one may find his way to Germany somehow, possibly under the cover of being an ally.

Mario would probably actually be one of the people to spit at Mussolini's body, and possibly even the guy who finally killed him with a MAS-38, because Mussolini had come to the conclusion that pasta was too expensive wasteful, and wanted to outlaw it, insisting on shitty alternatives which weren't really liked.

>>6465303
ohhh
i get it

>>6465335
>Mamma Mia Mussolini

>>6465335
Just like the French resistance was actually key to toppling the Nazi regime and France wasn't humiliated in perpetuity in WW2, right?

>>6465308
This is the most bizarre complaint of the bunch, hiw many times are you going to post it? I am going to post it until it gets the attention it deserves you stupid faggot. I am sorry my informative post with sources and links triggers your autism. Seeth harder.

And fuck Reznor's ambienshit soundtrack. Ranger is much better suited to music like that found in Quake 2 and especially stuff like this:
https://youtu.be/2WTyyCfT2VI

Any updates on Golden Souls 3? Im curious as to how thats going to turn out.

>>6465357
baste

>>6465350
I... what? I made no comment what so ever about the success of anything.

>>6465357
Because we have all fucking seen it already, and every time you post it you add nothing new, it's literally copy-pasting this shit for like the tenth time. I'm glad at least people finally got annoyed this time.

>>6465357
???
have you even listened to the soundtrck you're shilling this much for? 90% of it are the same "ambienshit" metal clanks and vocal samples, except done by someone 10 years behind Reznor's experience

>>6465370
>that timing
lmao

>>6465390
Yeah, I have a three and a half minute cooldown on my posts too.

>>6465357
>rangers whole character is him going insane while dimension hopping and facing against eldritch horror
>nah bro the industrial metal fits way more than the dark ambient soundtrack full of droning synths and whispers.
Pleb of the highest order

>>6465392
Don't make me go full Sherlock on you.

>>6465379
Nope, people still reply nigger, not everyone is in every single thread here like you NEET.
>>6465387
It's so far off it's not even comparable, what is this COPE?

>>6465395
Please don't, just go down on me instead.

>>6465402
True, gotta work harder so that everyone here knows of your absolutely terrible opinion.

>>6465404
I'm going down alright, just not on you.

>>6465357

>>6464941
NiN was perfect for Quake. QED EOD

>>6465402
>people still reply
Yeah, to say that you have shit taste,

>>6465271
Hank Spankem

>>6465259
this. the fatties' weakness is fire, but this weakness isn't present in fresh supply. i dunno what other balance things they fucked up
>>6465016
>probably
>>6464941
No.
>much better than Reznor's
Double no.
>I am going to post it until it gets the attention it deserves you stupid faggot. I am sorry my informative post with sources and links triggers your autism. Seeth harder.
Oh wow you actually are autistic. Please stop shitting up the threads with your retarded posts. I listened to your soundtrack and it sucked. It doesn't fit the game at all. Please stop posting.

Does this thumbnail look like a Doom screenshot to anyone else?

>>6465479
No looks like that face made from a taxidermy deer ass

>>6465479
That poor iMac...

>>6465306
What do you mean? With frame interpolation Quake is already as smooth as possible.

>>6465497
But what about more complete animations for the guns?

>>6465487
https://youtu.be/uxCvJgs5xeo

>>6465497
Nope,that just adds artificial frames. He wants hand animated 60fps stuff

>>6465503
I'd rather have the models from Deathmatch Classic, complete with the muzzleflashes.

You have the chance to make the weapon set of your dreams but it has to be based on a megawad.
What megawad will it be?
Hard mode, No Cacoward Stuff.

>>6465519
>Deathmatch Classic
How are those? I'm a newbie who never got to try that.

>>6465536
Once upon a time, when Valve still made games, they were gonna do some proof of concept multiplayer thing, mostly just as practice, and they thought it'd be funny if they remade Quake's deathmatch mode.

So that's what they did, they asked iD if they could do it and if they could use a few sound effects, and they said go ahead. It plays more or less like Quake's deathmatch. Arguably it has little reason to exist because you could just play deathmatch in Quake (and that's what most people did), but it does have a slightly different aesthetic to it. It shares some assets with Team Fortress Classic, which was developed as they bought the rights to the original Quake mod.

I like the reimagined guns they did for it, works the same, but just detailed and fully skeleton animated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnTC5sXAgnQ

>>6465520
Gonna have to go easy mode and say Lost Civilization

>>6465479
Cat resembling the plasma gun cooldown

>>6464837
>Launchers for Build Engine games
>http://buildgamedosboxlaunchers.weebly.com/
Just letting you know, this site was deleted a while ago and replaced with a spam page.

>>6465568
Someone take a screenshot of it.

>>6465554
I always liked HL 2D explosions.
For that matter in any game, like 2D fire sprites. Makes me fuzzy inside.

Maybe because I thought most early 3D sphere explosions look like garbage.

Am I shit if I rarely find secrets?

>>6465591
The 3D explosions in Quake 2 were novel at the time, but Duke Nukem 3D's, Half-Life's and Quake's explosions were just more satisfying in the end, crisp erupting fireballs that looked like in the movies, a good KABOOM, and a spray of particles.

The way explosions spray particles in all directions in Quake make them feel much more lively and well, explosive, than the bulging 3D fireballs in Quake 2.

>>6465609
Probably not paying enough attention. Look out for things which stand out.

>>6465616
>>6465591
>>6465554
>half life
>valve
go back

>>6465616
Not to mention sprite-based explosion is not only fully implemented in the vanilla Q2 engine, but even the sprites are present in the game data. I think the original plan was to have an option to change between model and sprite particle effects, but it got cut for some reason.

>>6465357
>filtered by fucking Nine Inch Nails
Dude.

>>6465639
even back in Q1, the only sprites remaining were the explosion and that one glowing ball from Azure Agony. the whole push was for full 3D, sprites were an atavism, and the particle effects were supposed to represent a sort of a liquid simulation. flamethrowers and such never look quite right in Q1 as a result

>>6465639
I think it actually uses those frames to get that firey texture on the 3D model.

So now that WangGDX is a thing, are there any worthwhile user maps anyone would recommend? I'm having a great time tearing through the main game and addons again, but I know I'll just want more by the end.

>>6465271

>>6465781
Honk Bonkem

So, GZDoom still seems to run better with multisampling enabled. Whaaaaat the fuck is this chaos magic?

>>6464867
>Best Bobby Prince track?
The City Streets (Death Row soundtrack), but Into Sandy's City and Sign of Evil are also great.

>Best Lee Jackson track?
Stalker (Hollywood Holocaust) of course, much better than overrated Grabbag

>Best James Paddock track?
The one on Sigil's secret level, but I have limited knowledge of his work.

>>6465740
Nope, they are in SP2 format, which are exclusively for sprites, and cannot be mapped onto walls or objects. Explosion models have their own PCX textures alongside their models.

>>6465823
(No) chickens having no clue about the concept of backward compatibility.

>Eternal DOOM MAP20
To the anon who said this wad gets more straightforward in the latter half, may you burn eternally in hell

>>6465702
How does one make masked brushes in vanilla Q1? Such as the railing an the platform on your screenshot.

>>6464867
>Bobby Prince
Aliens Say Your Prayers
>Lee Jackson
Gotham
>James Paddock
Coal

>>6465880
Theyre called fence textures. Just a texture with the prefix { and palette index 256 for transparency. Requires a sourceport such as Quakespasm to render correctly.

>>6465335
Not to mention, Mario is a devoted monarchist. After 1943 he would have no business with the Axis.

>>6465939
>Mario is a devoted monarchist
Good point, I hadn't considered that factor.

>>6465936
you can ask kirk and yamagi about this feature

>>6465980
Sopa de caco

>>6465980
is that a cacoward

>>6465980
Ahhhh, from the 2008 collection of Demons Divided. What a great event that was.

>>6465458
>Oh wow you actually are autistic. Please stop shitting up the threads with your retarded posts. I listened to your soundtrack and it sucked. It doesn't fit the game at all. Please stop posting.
Seeth you stupid nigger, Reznor's ost sucks ass and there was so much red tape because of his faggot label and management. Quake 2 has objectively the best soundtrack of the series and the only reason we even have it at all is because of the alternate Quake 1 soundtrack he sent in.

Reznor's soundtrack is completely out of character music of iD games both before and after Quake, and Sonic Mayhem's ost fits much better. It shouldat least be added to the links in OP for Quake - the first time I posted it all the replies I got were people saying they had never heard about it and one anon even setup the audio files for use with the game and uploaded it on zippyshare. It is a piece of Quake history regardless of the quality so at the very least it deserves a mention and a link.

Playthrough video of map31 of 200 minutes of /vr/ is up.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=VpHczpRUjbc

>playing Quake 1 on QSS
>E3M3 kills me in lava immediately when starting every time
noclip and god mode aren't helping either, anyone know what this is about or if there's a way to at least work around it without skipping the mission?

>>6466126
Based Trent making retards seethe decades later. Cant wait for the vinyl repress of the Quake OST. Know what? Imma listen to his soundtrack right now

>>6466126
Oh, the faggot is back.

>>6466126
First you come here shitting on quake 2 and now you are here shoehorning it in because you got found out.

Can't you just stay in Terrafusion? Why do you have to come here?

>>6466156
Anon here a deal that the Anti HL autist doesn't catch it, Q1 and Q2 soundtracks ends up being good in both games even when swapped.

Q1 soundtrack in Q2 turns the game more grittier than already is because strogg, some musics turns certain maps atmospheric.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf2f6Fpf3WA
Audrey Hodges did this to the N64 port and it was great

Q2 Soundtrack in Q1 turns it into more action focused, which the mission packs did it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdIrMoEPi9w
And its the shit.


>>6466168
Anti HL nigger and his discord friends wont stop until the janitors nukes this thread, therefore it must be someone who is really salty with /vr/.

>>6464921
Its good. GDX and NBlood are fine choices as well, problem with FS is the dev would like to patch it but Atari gets in the way.

>>6465519
I LOVE the DMC guns, I always wanted a Quake 1 mod with em

>>6466179
>therefore it must be someone who needs to move on and find something else to do

>>6464867
>Best James Paddock track?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZP7YSB8wWo

>>6466191
QC el Diablo shotguns has a Ebony and Ivory skins
https://knockout.chat/thread/9182

>someone made one (1) post I didn't like
>better spend 50 more posts arguing back and forth about it
Why is everyone so autistic of late?

I like both Q1 and Q2.

>>6466201
Im having fun!
>>6466205
I do too but i prefer q1

>>6466179
>/vr/ defends half life now
what happened?

>>6466234
You took too many vaccines and got autism.

>>6465752
Is the dev still obfuscating his code like a gigantic fag?

>>6466301
He actually released the source code some time ago.

>>6464839
The Force Engine was updated
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/post/2133742
https://theforceengine.github.io/downloads.html

>>6466205
So do I. I've played more Quake than Quake 2, though, but am trying to balance it out.

Has anyone ever beaten Freedoom on Extreme Carnage difficulty? I hear it's impossible unless you're like a speedrunner or something

>>6466349
Q2 has tons of multiplayer mods and skins.
Sadly there isn't that much when it comes to SP

>>6464923
Build engine Robocop vs. The Terminator.

>>6466236
Cope zoomie.

>>6466469
Seethe, cope, dilate, whatever.

>>6466351
Why did they change the weird pink dog for that worm?

>>6466486
Guy who made it is apparently a huge tentacle fetishist

>>6465520
Can it be a PWAD? DBP20: Dungeons & Demons
>>6465752
I got Shadow Warrior + expansions from the OP and I seriously waited months to be able to play it on BuildGDX, and I get this fucking bug where Wang pulls out chopsticks out of nowhere and I can't use any guns. I might just play it on Classic Redux if I'm the only one who gets this bug and the GDX dev doesn't patch it
>>6465271
>Dick Kickem
>>6465875
kek. that's what you get for playing a puzzle wad
>>6466345
fake and gay

>>6466353
Quake 2’s multiplayer scene seemed like it was tied with 3 for peak online Quake, maybe even being better
There are so many MP mods for it like ChaosQ2, Action Quake 2, Gloom, Rocket Arena, Paintball2, Threewave, and Generations
Quake 3 got its own versions of some of these, but the quantity of mods seems to be much less, though stuff like CPMA and OSP are pretty popular

>>6466486
This is what it used to be, pic related. Some anon posted this link a while ago. It uses this sprite. I was gonna play it eventually, looks pretty spoopy
https://darsycho.itch.io/mayhem-mansion

>>6466516
You might not like it but this is what peak performance looks like

>>6466516
It's far more visually interesting than that ugly worm.

>>6466516
That’s some clever sprite reuse with the front and back frames

>>6466168
Excuse me? When exactly did I shit on Quake 2? I love Quake 2 and I have only ever praised it, particularly the soundtrack. Perhaps you should take your meds.

>>6466168
>shoehorning it in
Also how am 'shoehorning' it in when from the very beginning the whole point of sharing the alternate Quake 1 soundtrack is because Quake 2's is so good, go back and look at the first post

>>6466508
Would it be possible to make a traditional single player level based campaign in Quake 3 with mods?

>>6466545
You'd have to make a whole bestiary from scratch, not a small task.

Anyone ever go back and read the archives of these Retro FPS threads? We have had some pretty epic ones in the past. Any that stick out that would be findable with desuarchive search?

I have gone back as far as the archive goes, back when they were just Doom threads instead of general retro FPS but the oldest pages have no images archived so they are not worth reading and its like that for pages and pages in the old est results. I wonder how far back it goes with everything still archived?

>>6466549
Why not just use other characters from the base game, could use the more generic ones as foot soldiers and uniqued as bosses

>>6466493
Based.

>>6466584
But... shouldn't you be posting the good ones?

>>6466595
What do you mean? I am going back through just out of boredom, and I was asking which of the earliest ones has all the content backed up I wonder, just for fun.

Yes I was asking you anons if any particularly good threads stick out in your mind I could search and find on desuarchive

>>6466497
Hmm, that's odd. I've had straight-up crashes happen before (especially in Redux, but once recently in DOS as well), but I've never even seen the chopsticks animation before, let alone hang on it. Have you tried the Holster Weapon key? I don't know if that would help or not.

>>6466545
Hearsay, but I remember reading something about how it’s nigh impossible to make Q3 singleplayer with its engine. If it was easy, I’m sure there would’ve been attempts at it in the past, but I’ve come across basically nothing of the sort.
The closest I’ve ever seen to being singleplayer is that map Sock made, and it’s just a puzzle level that cleverly uses buttons and switches

Even if it were an easy thing to do, you’d still have to make a bunch of new assets unless you want to reuse character models, but at that point you could just play Quake 3

>>6466608
I just tried it. It didn't work. The chopsticks come up after being idle for like 30 seconds but it comes up for me while just playing normally, and once they come up, I have to spam keys to make them go away. If it happens during a gunfight it's pretty much instant GG

>>6466632
Return To Castle Wolfenstein is the same engine.

>>6466671
yeah, I should’ve specified Q3 specifically, I don’t think any user content for it can really have a traditional game campaign
You could do something like RTCW, but that’d be exponentially more involved, and I don’t think anyone would be willing to put that much effort in

>>6466679
What about building the game in RTCW and using Q3 assets? Those should drop in just fine.

>>6466743
Out of picture: cucked space marine.

>>6466743
Quake 2 default filtering is ass, and mainly paired with the low res pcx textures, since ID never cared in make higher res ones in TGA

>>6466748
three of them, actually

>>6466671
>>6466679
>>6466632
There seems to be a pattern of Quake 3 engine games separating their singleplayer and multiplayer binaries.
I'd want to look into this further, but the source code is a mess of abstractions. Q2 is far easier to deal with.

>>6466753
Is that a custom texture filter in action or just a texture with some filter applied beforehand?

>>6466765
just a quick upscaling using gigapixel AI with pre and late edits to add more details

also the reddish shit is just reshade HDR since i was testing a preset but quit due to conflict

>>6466201
>late

>>6466545
there is a mod called EntityPlus that tried to do that:
https://www.moddb.com/mods/entityplus
seems to be dead on the water:
https://github.com/TheEnginesOfCreation/EntityPlus
a map:
https://www.quake3world.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=51412

>>6464867
>Best James Paddock track?
I can't remember the name of the one I really liked in BTSX ep. 1, so I'll go for "Within Reach" instead.

Any good gameplay mods I should check out?

>>6466879
Are you a lazy youtube man or a lazy anon?

is there a button to change the movement speed on trenchbroom without having to go to the preferences every 5 minutes?

>>6464837
Trenchbroom but for Quake 3 Arena.

Sssssssip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXSdikcUuo0

>>6465479
so this is how the powerups in sonic games are made!

>>6466940
VEERY SOON

>>6465458
>>probably
What was the point of this reply?

>>6464970
Yeah no worries!

>>6466940
So Trenchbroom sometime this year, then

>>6466940
I actually want trenchbroom for cs

>>6466940
I'd like trenchbroom for cs

>>6467173
Doesn’t GoldSrc have a good level creator? Hammer or Worldcraft?

>>6467189
Hammer is kinda bad.
J.A.C.K.'s better.

>>6467173
like >>6467207 there is J.A.C.K. and iirc there was another one called Sledge
on top of that you can use 3ds max to make both goldsrc and source maps with WWMT plugin

Is there a mod that makes Tekwar a not horrible and shitty game? Mods that simply use tekwar assets and nothing else doesn't count.

>>6467219
>is there a mod that makes Tekwar not look ugly, not feel and play like shit, fix the issues with the story, and basically turn it into something 98% different?
Unfortunately no, it isn’t a shitty and simple game like Bodycount that can mostly be recreated in GZDoom, it’s a shitty and advanced game like Daikatana where not much can be done to salvage it

my ASS is, HEAVY.

>>6467328
Uhh, roger.

>>6467328
Kys hlfag.

Just beat the Quake mod Travail. That was fucking good shit. It positions itself as a sequel to the mission packs and Nehahra, and it well deserves such a place. Felt like I was playing Unreal with the way locales looked at times. And that final episode was just fantastic in all ways. What are some other Quake masterpieces?

>>6467328
I can’t remember if the base game allows you to use the console to string together HECU and Voice Comm phrases, or if it was a server plugin

>>6467348
Sounds like AMX

when do you think we are going to get past limitations of sprite names in XXXX X format and be able to call them directly from sprite atlases or images with long filenames?

>>6467363
Maybe with Zscript, but for DECORATE? Never.

>>6467341
Don't shoot! I'm with the science team!

>>6467370
Fuck off

>>6467372
Take me with you! I'm the one man who knows everything!

Friendly reminder that Tom is the king and his maps with sandy are godly in atmosphere and good design.

>>6467372
You're a dirty little sewage boy, aren't you anon?

>>6466879
Project Brutality

>Redneck Rampage sewer level
>have to shoot a button through the crack between the wall and a sewer pipe
I figured it must have been the final room of the map, but damn, I don't think I would have thought to check there again, since I looked through one of the sides where the button isn't visible.

>>6467343
Contract Revoked + Lost Chapters
Underdark Overbright
Rubicon 2 + Rubicon Rumble Pack
Warp Spasm

I've been playing Marathon lately, and while the movement, enemies, and gunplay are not as finely tuned and elegant as Doom's, they have enough flavor to stand apart, and more importantly the level design and shockingly good narrative really elevate Marathon. I'm not usually a storyfag because videogame writing is usually hot garbage but Marathon is a rare exception, extra rare for a /vr/ action game at that. That level with the 7 platforms you need to raise can burn in hell though I was stuck on it for 20 minutes.

>>6466353
I have been making maps and units for Quake 2 recently which I post in the news threads here. I wonder if anyone ever sees them, but it seems not.

is Malice for Quake worth playing?

This is a pain in the ass. But it'll be worth it once I get it all in game.

>>6466753
>b-but why does muh '97 game looks like it's from '97

>>6464867
>No Stuart Rynn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgLldfc-Yzg

underrated
https://youtu.be/qIYcOYkWe-0?t=5

halo is better than all these games

>>6467657
Kama Sutra > Scythe 2

Holy fucking shit. I want to bang The Khan Maykr so goddamn bad. I can't stand it anymore. Every time I go to Urdak I get a massive erection. I've seen literally every Rule 34 post there is of her online. My dreams are nothing but constant fucking sex with The Khan Maykr. I'm sick of waking up every morning with six nuts in my boxers and knowing that those are nuts that should've been busted inside of Khan's tight alien tentacle pussy. I want her to have my mutant human/Maykr babies.

>>6467664
>random sex fantasy post about a warframe character
how is this related to the thread

>>6467343
Arcane Dimensions, just in case you haven't played it yet, but you probably have.

>>6467664
oh hey, i recognize this pasta

New Golden Souls 3 Featurette! This time it's all about the new Trumpetbuss Mark II weapon! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lly0g_6IJHc

>>6467775
[:||||:]

>>6467775
That's pretty good.

>>6464869
Companionrelease when

>>6464925
>>6464869
Great as long as I can make her passively follow me and not melt everything with plasma in moments.

>>6467849
ok but then I have to make her laugh each time you die

>>6467852
Sure.
Make it Ojou Laugh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbfaF5otJv0

should you load her with h doom

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/40602-top-10-worst-wad-cliches/

A lot of cringy opinions on map building in there from the year 2007.

>>6467984
Huh, you're right, a lot of those opinions are actually VERY cringe.

>>6467209
>>6467189
I know, but even some anon did a tool to export maps to fucking ue4
I don't think I'm asking for something overcomplicated (for these dudes)

>>6467425
>nmt (nightmare meridian time)

>>6467586
mostly out of historical interest but sure
a thing to keep in mind is that unlike quake enemy health scales with difficulty. don't play on hard (seriously)

Wish I'd find some more sector art maps.

>>6467984
>talking shit about E2M2
cringe

>>6468001
yeah, nowadays people give mappers shit for trying to make feel-good-maps that are just balanced (but boring). The fags in this thread just straight up want no challenge at all.

>>6466721
Whoa I think you may be on to something there.

Is RTCW easy to mod?

>>6467219
Best you can hope for is Doom TekWar Total Conversion.

>>6467343
Dimension of the Past is the least known of the official expansions, did you play it?

>>6467565
WE love you Colonwulf

>>6467632
>shitposting this hard
its well known for centuries that carmack shoved a forced compress into Q2 make sure that everyone could play it on GL and 3dfx mode, but people went software because of performance, and the compression was so ugly that gave the infamous blurry monster bug.

>>6468095
dopa aint official

>>6468151
http://www.chebmaster.com/q2facelift/
>The original Quake2 renderer DOWNsamples the textures to fit the weak 3d accelerators of its days, using a visually degrading linear filter at that. So, I can say, the original renderer MUTILATES the game art turning it into a blurry crap.
>It's not Carmack's fault, it's just the harsh reality of the late 20th century hardware. Keep in mind that the monsters of Quake2 were intended for *software* rendering, their non-power-of-two skins are proof enough.

The textures were made for filtering in mind, but the monsters didn't had the same love.

>>6468162
It's an official addon by MachineGames to celebrate the 20th anniversary of Quake and is considered Episode 5.

>>6468162
>>6468172
It's sort of quasi-official maybe? Wasn't officially announced or published, it was just a little side project some guys at MachineGames did for the fun of it, for the love of the game.

Can we please stop talking about Quake 2? It's not a good game and its discussion sets a bad precedence.

>>6468172
afaik it's made by one guy. just because he works at some company that worked on an id property for a bit doesn't make it official. by this measure Arcane Dimensions is official, since sock worked on some Wolfenstein thing once

Abyss of Pandemonium is also "episode 5". so is Sigil. both are unofficial.

Quake 2's chaingun is one of the best.

>>6468178
Fuck off.

PSA; Dont answer to Anti HLfag he and his discord slav friends are shitposting here on /vr/ again and the janitors are looking at it.

>>6468181
Abyss is so different that it feels like a semi sequel.

>>6468184
I thought slavs liked HL.

And substance abuse.

>>6468182
I always liked it, but it really needs a muzzleflash.

>>6468184
>and the janitors are looking at it
Prove it.

>>6468186
You're thinking of Ruskis, they go fucking NUTS for HL, specifically its multiplayer

>>6468171
Having OGL modes not look as bad would be nice, since YamagiQ2’s software isn’t as accurate as the original .exe which makes me stuck with hardware rendering, which introduces its own issues

>>6464867
>Prince
Doom E1M1 & E2M1

>>6468176
>>6468181
>Episode 5: Dimension of the Past (called "DOPA" for short) is an add-on episode for Quake developed by MachineGames, to commemorate the game's 20th anniversary. It's available to download for free.[1]

>Despite not being developed by id Software themselves, the episode is considered semi-official, being developed by a fellow Zenimax-owned company that has previously co-operated with id Software. The episode also contains many allusions and callbacks to Quake proper, such as the re-appearance of the Dopefish easter egg, along with the final level of the episode being almost identical to Shub-Niggurath's Pit.

>>6464867
>Lee Jackson
Adaigo

>>6468189
It had good multiplayer, and lots of good multiplayer games/mods. Aaah, good ol TFC, CS 1.6, Firearms, The Specialists, Sven-Coop, etc.

>>6468194
>unironically quoting fandom/wikia as a source
come on now. it's only "official" inasmuch as it "officially" has "MachineGames" stamped on ot. all that other stuff about dopefish & Shubby applies to half a dozen other map packs just as well

>>6468146
That's some Giger hair right there.

>>6464872
https://www.questzdoom.com/recommended.html
>Brutal Doom

>>6468207
We need some re-meshed Q2 monsters to fit with the texture mapping perfectly.
Unfortunately Chillo hates work

>>6468204
It's semi-official, lad. Don't seeth about it.

>>6467402
The worst one is in that central area where the switch is above your head. That whole map is ass, and if it were removed the game would be 20% better.

>>6468213
>allowing yourself to accept anything from the creators of NuWolf as official

>>6467402
Goshk dern sumunubitch hidin dem dere darn sweetches uppina hard ta see places

>Dumbass cultist throws dynamite at the group of zombies and humans in front of him because he spotted me through it, killing everyone including him and his buddies in the explosion.
Maranax THAT, asshole.

MM8BDM is plaguing Doomseeker, i'm surprised no dedicated server browser or a Zandro fork is made for it yet

>>6468241
Gat dang basturds go an make all them key sprites too tiny for my big manly eyeballs

>>6467664
Not retro

>>6468250

>>6468248
But are you playing with the 100% hilarious/terrible cuss pack?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdb8j7q3N1I

Is Duke32 better than Megaton?

>>6468268
Is EDuke32 better than Megaton?

>>6468270
Yes, megaton is rather old at this point and eduke32 constantly updated.

>>6468270
If you find megaton, download it.
But i think Randy deleted the store page

>>6468276
https://pastebin.com/uFyDC1G1

Killing Time is now officially free, no yarrharr required.
>https://www.zoom-platform.com/#store-killing-time
Don't forget to stay away from Tess, she's still trouble.

>>6468260
I use a pack that mixes in the base voice lines with the cuss pack for maximum retrobilly action
Imagine being so alpha that your decades old game is the only one around that has something called a cuss pack, and 90% of returning searches are about your game
And of course, I also set the icon of the game folder to be the Japanese boxart

>>6468272
Thank you.
>>6468279
Thanks or the link.

>>6468284
Well grill my ass and serve it with dip. A gen-you-wine connoisseur.

Are there any custom map compilers for Quake 2? I thought I saw a screenshot that looked too good to be vanilla qrad.exe

>>6466972
>implying

>>6467343
Soul of Evil is excellent.

>>6468313
Which screenshot?

Arghrad is used mostly.

>>6468250
>>6468259

>>6468338
how do you chit with so much carbs in thine asshole

>>6468260
>tfw you grew up in an area where people used these cusses commonly
The older I get a little more of that accent and styling creeps back into my mouth.

>>6467984
>personally i find an annoying wad cliche is when i get killed in a map. grrr, stop doing that you guys!
kek

>>6468370
Why is the nazi fat

>>6468352
Good. Keep it alive.

>>6468372
its fatso goring

>>6468247
it's not like doomseeker is being used for much else

Can you jump and crouch in Duke?

>>6468423
Yes.

>>6468423
Yes you retarded fucking zoomer skoomer peepee poomer. Ever played a Build engine game?

Consider this, /doom/:

Redneck Rampage Remake

>>6468436
I wouldn't mind a Redneck Rampage reboot or a Witchaven reboot. Both have potential.

Consider this, /doom/:

H Redneck Rampage

Consider this, /doom/:

I love you,

>>6468436
With unkown hinson voicing the protag?
https://youtu.be/peXSp6Jxt0Y

>>6468445
NO.

>>6468449
I still cant believe that show got more than one season

>>6468449
Actually, Burton Gilliam is still alive, maybe he can reprise his role

>>6468459
Its good!

>>6468436
Remakes are at their best when they’re remaking something that wasn’t very good to begin with
Redneck Rampage is quite mediocre, so having a remake that fixes a bunch of issues, maybe adds in more stuff, and expands on the concept and setting would be great
Or you could go the Postal 4 route and intentionally make it look low-budget and trashy to complement the subject matter

>>6468430
>>6468434
Thanks, guys. First build engine game.

I̷̥͒͝ ̵̛͈͓̘̞̉̌͊͒̾̍̀̀̎̀̊͘͘͝H̴̦͛̎A̶̛̠͕͎͔̹̖̬̠͇̼͒̀ͅV̸̩̭̭̝̝͔̜̋̋̔̌͐̔̋̈̓̀̈́̏͒͘͘E̷̢̝̱̻͔̞̘͚̩̮͓̠̤̞̾͒ͅ ̴̠̰̗̩̯̳͎͎̞̣̟̥͈̎̑̉̈́̍̋̂̿̚͝T̵͍̙̼͑́̚A̶̪̼̳̟̺̙̫̋̐̃͆̆͛̾̊̀͑͘͝͝K̸̹̮͖͍̙͚̣͐̐̐̚Ȩ̴̦̳̞͚̱̦̱͎̼͙͇̯̦͇̀̐́͘͝N̶͓̞̠͉͚̘͚̥͂͊͗̓̚͜ ̸̟̯͇͉̭̾̉̔̚͘ͅͅY̵̫̯̩̙̣̊͜O̷̢̗̺̮̹͙̱̜̟̘̻̦̠͆U̸̢̧̼͍͓̘͚̤̫͔̤͓̺͆͋̕̚R̸̼̹̯̠͎͕̾ͅ ̷̺̤̠̞̇͒̋̓̓̓L̵̝̹͕̟̻͔̙̹̦͌̂̔͂̒̉̾̍̊̚̕̚O̴͇͛̈́̓͐̌̄̚V̶̢̟͍̮̭̰̙̺͙͙̱̑̈́̓̍̔̈́̊̔͘E̶̛̫̹̝̥̰͕̘̺̓̈́̄̄͘͠͝
̶̨̧͙͇͉͇͘͝ͅ
̶̥͔͒̏̇͠͝Ṅ̵͉̣̟Ǒ̴̹̮̳̣͇̼͒̈́̽͑͂̀̍͌̋̂̕͝͝W̵̢̨͓̠͖̹̣͕̩̤̯͇̦͛͠͝ ̵̡̧̧͓̣͈̩̪͆͛́͋̔̀̈I̶̻̟̘̓̓̓̓͆̄̕ͅ ̶̟̫̿̌̽̑̿͆͂̽̐̆͝͝S̷̨͉̗̜̦͇̝̣̐̌̚H̴̨̻̺͍̣̖̾͛̍̀̑͝A̴͓̥͈͔̹̦͗̌̊͒̾̆̈̉̒͌̊́͠L̶̨̛͙͇̪͓̮͖̖̣̮̯̯̘̦̉̍̋̾̓͗͆̈́̉͘ͅL̵͈̮͙̗̱̱̪̱͔̂̒͠ ̴̛͔̳̤̮̍̍́̈́͆͂͐̕͝T̴͔͔̥̪͒̆̋̀͆̄̓͐͛̕͘͝Ä̴̤̱͎̥̙̰̞̮̱͓́̑͑͒͒̊͂̈́͂̓K̵̠̈̿͋̍̿̈̈́Ê̴̼͉͎͍̳̳͓̺̩͐͛ ̵̞̘͂͂̇̌̈́̈̑̍̀̚Y̵̛̥͍͙͚̘͇͓̦̙͎̦̭̜͒͋͂́̓͌̑̒͌̍̒͜͝Ơ̸̡̱̠̬̗͙̳͓͖̬͍̯͒̓͗̍͌̉͂̈͊͜U̵͖̖͇̦͇̓̊̀̓̿̈̿̈́͋̈́̐͝͝R̸̮̠̟̮͚̯̮̆͑̎͋̓ͅ ̵̨͍͙̭̼̣͎̫̹̗̙͖͙̍̈́͜L̵̜͕̜̟̪̂ͅI̴̡̟͈͔̼̱̮͍͚̹̖͔͖̋͑̾̔̌͆̆̾͆̃̀͠͝F̶̳͈̙̉̃͊͑͂́̒̓̐̈́̕E̴̛͍̟͚̗̻̼̰̳̯̰̩͑̋͛͐̆̍̒̾̾̀̌̿͂͑͜ͅ

>>6468449
Anprim king

>>6468475
Why is a fucking GOD really fucking weak even on higher difficulties

>>6468486
I always figured Blood had a semi rushed development with the first act standing far above the rest in terms of quality. This leads to less playtesting which leads to big swings in difficulty.

>>6468483
Ý̴̡̨̨̢̛̳̭̝̼̪̻̠̝͕͍̯̺̫̯̙̣̟̥̣̯̞̭͙̩̯̯͔͔̘͚̜͍͆̎̀͛̑̑͑̍̔́̈́͐̍͆̃̐̓̃́̈́͊͂͌͋̊̏͠Ǫ̷͕̥̮̜̭͎͎̳̺̤̤̣̪̺̝̬̟̔̍̓́̉̄͐͛̊̏̓͒͗͌͊͒̔̋͗̓̈̀͌͘͝͝͠ͅU̶̢̧̡̼̮̪͉̙̜̠̥͍̰͍̱̳͗̄̀̈́̆̈͑̿̃̽̽̈́͌̇́̂̒̊͂̀́̆͗͘͠ ̴̧̢̞̻̳͕͙̫̼̮͍͓̫͍͂͒Ḑ̸̨͓͎̥̟̜̰̬̘̞̫̭͇̤̓̓̾̆̇̔̽̍́́̊̈͒̔͒̑̾̍̒͒͑̓͗̈̕̚͝͝͠A̵̢̛͖̰̘̙͈͉̻̣̯͙̟̺̦̪̐́͋͌͗̐́́͆̈́̂̔̂̽̾͊̎͒͛͆̒̉̀̑̎́̍̆̽͘͝͠Ṟ̸̡̧̨̨̛̛͈͈̠̖̳̱͉͕̳̺͚̥̺̥͓͔̣̘̗̯͎̗͚͈̦̃̈̀͋̎͆̊̂͛̍̑̈́̽̆̓͒͆̉̍͊̀̋̿̎̍̈́͐͆̕͝͠ͅȨ̴̛̖̼̣͉̻͛̾͐̀͑̎̃͌͌͗̎̀̌̐̀̋̀̆̈́̕͜͠͝ ̷̢̡̡̨̥̱͙̞̳͈͕̗̱͍̬͈̫̹̻̻͇͈̪̤̠̘̫͎̜̉́͋̽̈̄̽̉̃̚͜͠ͅͅͅM̷̧̧̛͍͖̺̖̬̗̖̞̣̙̤̜̘̥̭̫͔͇͖͚͉̞̰̜͊̐̀̆̀̿̓̈́̊̎̉̄̓̐̋̊́̀̾̏̒̈́͘̚͘̕̚͜͜͝͝ͅO̷̯̱̟͈͋͊̋̽̽̆͒͛̂́̉̉̽̈́͆̈̈́̚͝͝C̶̢̮̫̫͔̩̱͕͕̩̥̥͖̖̳͇̱̹̞͓̱̫͚̙̫̬̮͖̰̔͜K̷̢̨͚̖͚̯̮̥͈̥̱͎̜̜̝͉͇̙̯̬͒̓͐͌̏́̈́̓̃̄̋͛͋̄̋͒̈́́ͅ ̵̛͇͈͕̉̏̈́̾̃̆̑̿̂̄̋̌̈͗͐̄̈́̽̿̓̕̚͝͠͝͝M̶̱̰͙̟̫̜͌̑͒̐̍̈́̄̈̈́̀̔̂̓̓̈́̉͒̒̄̽̇͛̀͒̋̈́̌͂̈̓͋̄̊̈͐̄̕͜͝ͅE̷̢̢̢̡̛̪̫̮̭̮̗̬̘͓̻̹͍̫̝̳̙̘̣̩̺̜̮͎͕͓͕͒̂̓̍̍̀͆̌̄̃́̏̈́͂̏̄̏̆͋̓̀͐̍̀͗̿̈́͌͂̓́̆̕͜͝͠?̴̨̪̤̜̘̘̗̜͇̠̯͈̻̤̬͎̠͍͚͉̜̦̖̼̌͊̀͐̑̓͂̈́͗͒͌̏̽͗̿͋̓̋̄͊̍̂͝͠

>>6468486
He's not. You just grew more powerful than god.

>>6468491
Im feeling this. Im like two levels from finishing and EP2,3 and 4 dropped in difficulty pretty sharply

>>6468492
I assume you meant >>6468486

>>6468506
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>>6468491
>>6468504
Death Wish is what Blood would have been without the rushed and troubled development

I don't quite understand Doom monster AI. Does putting them on small platforms makes them walk more and shoot less?

>>6468527
I don't think it should matter? I might be completely in the wrong here, but the AI afaik is fairly simple and all it does is go towards the player with some variations. It's not really 'path' based, so small platforms should make absolute no difference.

>>6468504
Its still pretty hard, I would just say cultists are bullshit for most people. Other enemies are more fair but still dangerous.

>>6468527
I don't think it should matter? I might be completely in the wrong here, but the AI afaik is fairly simple and all it does is go towards the player with some variations. It's not really 'path' based, so small platforms should make absolute no difference.

Though putting them in a small space might fuck up with the AI's cycles, making it less efficient. A decino probably should explain it.

>>6468538
I have a suspicion that hitting a wall/edge of the platform makes it step counter reset but not sure.

>>6468518
Isn't death wish a bit more complex? It would melt pcs back in the day.

Remember: whenever you want to delete a post and submit a corrected version, there will always be that anon who would have already replied to the post by the time you deleted it.

With the release of SIN and Half-Life, Deus Ex and other innovative titles, one's standards by which to measure a First Person Shooter wete raised to a refreshingly intellectual level. But, to remind us all that what we really want to do is launch a grenade into a room of civilians and walk in laughing as the cloud of vaporized blood settles and the guts slide down what's left of the walls, there was Blood 2. It's one of the most refreshingly, unapologetic, straightforward gore feasts I've played in a long time. On top of that, it has a quality of gameplay and design that puts games like Quake 2 out on the street, unloved. Why did this game flop? It's a masterpiece besides bugs at launch.

>>6468567
Bugs are horrendously awful, too many promises were made that wouldn't be fulfilled, and the game is only *barely* playable on normal skill.

>>6468573
Gut gud Civvie

>>6468585
Ha, i wish i was civvie

>too many PWADs to play, let alone 100%
>you could play several hours every day and it'd still take years
>new PWADs are still released regularly
>still haven't even gotten a chance to 100% Quake 1 or Douk

>>6468564
It runs fine in DOSBox with the default settings, other than turning the RAM up to 32 (as recommended by the game)

>One thing that always irritated me though, you never have to reload your guns.

Why are modern gamers so fucking braindead?

>Half-Life, Fallout, Thief: The Dark Project, Goldeneye, and System Shock all influenced the design of the game
i thought Deus Ex was original.

Beat blood on well done. Feel a little dissapointed by the end but it was still fun. I like what they acomplished with what they had though. I feel like Fire And Brimstone is a better hellish landscape than what doom does.

Finished half the map now. My crippling addiction to using switches to both gain access to new areas and open monster closets keeps flairing up.

>>6468629
>Doom 2 SSG reloads
>Duke Nukem's pistol had reloading
>Blood shotgun had reloading
>Powerslave (BUILD)'s bullet weapons reload
>Serious Sam's revolvers and SSG reload

>>6468236
The game doesn't even have very many levels compared to Doom or the big 3 Build games. There was like a dozen IIRC. But they take fucking aeons to complete because of the confusing level design

>>6468649
All of the guns in the Marathon trilogy

>>6468652
Hell to add on to this Marathon is more like sim game as it uses a magazine system rather than an ammo pool

>>6468649
I don't think the Super shotgun counts really, or the double barrel from serious sam, both of those weapons only have one fire mode: both barrels and a long animation after firing, might as well argue the brief animation of pulling the plasma rifle back in Doom is a reload too.

>>6467984
I dont understand why some old doomers seem to legitimately hate crates. It's just a simple decoration (or easy way to block visibility), nothing wrong with crates.

>>6468629
Reloading for certain guns is a must, like a double barrel shotgun ala Doom II's SSG or even a cocking animation for a standard shotgun like Doom's and a number of other retro shooters. Having those weapons in particular with no animation is jarring as fuck, as Quake and Doom 64 unfortunately are.

>H.P. Lovecraft had a cat named Niggerman, named after a cat in one of his short stories. It's true, look it up!

>>6468486
"Tchernobog is super weak due to variable overflow. He was intended to be 25x stronger but the variable couldn't hold such a huge number and therefore he became very weak (compared to other bosses and monsters)."
t. Blood Wiki

>>6468678
Any fan patches or mods that address this?

>>6468678
Weak to the napalm launcher maybe. He tanks tesla shots

>>6468676
>named after a cat in one of his short stories
I'm pretty sure it was the other way around, good ol' N cat was a pet he had during his childhood, long before he started writing.

>>6468686
N cat? Its name was Niggerman

>>6468686
It was his uncles cat i believe

>>6468689
It was just a joke on the whole N word thing. Also wasn't it Nigger-Man?

>>6468695
I am not sure about the dash

I didn't realize till I listened to a podcast with Sandy Petersen on it that he was the one who created Call of Cthulu and pretty much introduced a whole new generation to Lovecraft. Pretty cool.

>>6468565

https://youtu.be/LAITScfXqN0 been listening to this album since marathon 2 and infinity dont have music. Feels fitting since they made the theme songs to both.

>>6467984
>KDiZD could spawn a wave of cliches itself, don't you think?
Is "turning people off of mapping for ZDoom in general for nearly a decade" a cliche?

>>6468731
Yes, and a very good one.

"Too many ZDoom features" was a valid argument for a while back in the day, that's fucking sad

If you make a map and it can only be played on (G)ZDoom, it's a bad map. It's not even a Doom map at that point.

If you're going to make maps that require jumping, dynamic lights and a shitton of ZDoomisms, why even bother keeping a pretense that it's a Doom map. Why not just go and make a Quake map or an asset flip in Unity at that point.

You might say "oh well then Boom/limit-removing isn't even a Doom map anymore either!" Wrong. At the very least they're extensions of the engine with the same direction of the original. ZDoom is just something else altogether.

>>6468762
You say this while posting in a GZDoom thread?

>>6468691
Wasn't it his dad's cat? Anyway, as Lovecraft got out in the real world, he would eventually realize that his parents and the insular community he grew up in were in fact unusually racist, even by the standards of the day, because he was getting weird looks from other racists who thought he was too extreme.
He'd start to chill out on that over time, and he had considered renaming Niggerman, but decided not to, for the reason that he thought it would be cruel to force an elderly cat to learn a new name.

A lot of people ignore that he tried to better himself, and that his parents were absolute lunatics who were abusive towards him, which is why he grew up to be such a weird fucking person to begin with.

>>6468762
If GZDoom (or really just ZDoom-based ports in general) supported demo playback I fucking guarantee nobody would have ever said anything remotely like this.

>>6465926
>black nail polish
faggot

>>6468769
This isn't the zdoom forums, graf.

>>6468775
You're pointing at a symptom of a larger issue. The problem isn't that ZDoom doesn't support demo playback (in fact it does, but it must be the same ZDoom version, but I assume you mean with any other version of Doom so that's besides the point)

The actual problem is that ZDoom adds a lot of overhead to Doom's monster behavior and routines, so their behavior is completely unlike what you'd get in normal Doom. It is not an accurate representation of Doom, at all. Therefore a symptom of this is that it can't play back vanilla doom demos.

>>6468780
No.

>>6468762

>>6468774
Yeah he hated anyone who wasnt a WASP. Also when he went on antisemitic rants his wife would remind him that shes jewish

>>6468786
please explain to me why you think I'm an idiot, anon. I want to learn your knowledge.

>>6468774
Bro, he hated niggers, stop trying to rehabilitate him in the eyes on woke zoomers.

>>6468774
Fate will prove him right when Chink overlords take over.

>>6468791
>>6468762
Because "it's no longer Doom" is a retarded faggot argument and you're basically complaining that you're not playing vanilla.

>Why not just go and make a Quake map or an asset flip in Unity at that point.
Because eat my ass, I like Doom's monsters, gameplay, and aesthetics, which don't go away because of dynamic lights, slopes, or scripts. I do it because that's what I like, you're like the kind of guy who thinks every pistol should be a Glock, that every car should be a Honda Civic, because "it makes the most sense"

>ZDoom is just something else altogether
In practical terms, no it isn't.

>>6468762
Wrong

>>6468796
China will not take over anything, they can barely manage the paltry armies of Vietnam or India.

>>6468810
I'm not saying that you can't like a thing anon. By all means keep mapping for ZDoom. It's not my fault that you have bad taste

>>6468830
God, I bet your cock is fucking huge I want to suck it so badly.

>>6468836
leave anon, see ya

>>6468836
Bridgeburner is that you

>>6468840
it's me, Taylor Swift

>>6468830
>>6468762
Jesus Christ, you're offensive retarded.

>>6468845
Wtf taytay plays doom??????

>>6468762
fuck you, i like to use decorate monsters.

>>6468851
again anon, you don't need anyone's permission to like what you like, it's not my fault that you're cringe like that

>>6468762

>>6468850
honey i was playing catacomb 3d before you were born

>>6468706
Wow thats crazy. Now I want to know exactly what things he did when working on Age of Empires. I bet he came up with "wololo"

>>6468858
>It's not my fault that you have bad taste
>it's not my fault that you're cringe like that

>>6468846
>>6468859
Don't you guys have some zdoomisms to jerk off to or something

>>6468762
>Why not just go and make a Quake map or an asset flip in Unity at that point.

>>6468762

I dont give a fuck about doom but I like these threads specifically because the engine allows for good retro base to work on.

>>6468792
I'll do whatever the fuck I want. I believe that if he hadn't died so young, he would probably have calmed more with age.

>>6468883
This is completely valid, you're using GZDoom as a base for another game to work on because it IS for all intents and purposes another game. You can mold it to your needs. Because it's not Doom.

>>6468810
>every pistol should be a Glock
*cracks*
*sips*
1911, now that's some real stopping power. Won us WW2.

>>6468762
So I see the half life autist is diversifying his portfolio.

>>6468896
Who gives a fuck about what a bunch of kids on /v/ think, why even post this. Why would you even consider it relevant

>>6468896
>doom 64 that low
What?

>>6468896
What did /vr/ think about Rage 2 anyway?

>>6468896
>Rage 2

Forgot about that, shame those devs really nail destruction and fire effects. But like mad max they fail at everything else.

I bet I am going to forget Eternal in the same way.

i had no idea so many zdoom mappers browsed /vr/, kind of interesting. i'm personally fine with playing gzdoom for gameplay mods but playing vanilla doom with jumping, crouching and vertical mouse look just makes no sense to me

>>6468902
their opinion is just as relevant as yours, how does that make you feel? probably pretty angry I bet, incel

>>6468917
I play vanilla doom on GZdoom with vertical mouse look. Though I don't jump or crouch.
I'm too fucking lazy to fuck about with other sourceports.

>>6468918
>how does that make you feel?
it makes me feel nothing because i agree, some random shmuck's opinion on the internet is just as good as any other random shmuck. so why even bother doing any of that polling as if to declare "we have conclusively decided that doom64 sux"

>>6468918
>incel
Gave yourself away.

>>6468921
just a heads up, you do still have overpowered melee in GZdoom. And you're able to walk over/under enemies because they're not infinitely tall anymore. This can make certain encounters much easier than what the author intended.

You can fix this by using the (strict) compat presets, but even those aren't accurate representations of how the monsters would behave in normal doom.

>>6468924
because they're allowed to make their opinion known, and if you'd like to consider it you have the option, or don't so don't. you can't contain v users in v, people are allowed to talk across boards. don't like it? leave. go write a blog on how doom64 doesn't suck and paste the link here so we can read it. you seem butthurt over nothing you fuckin gay guy

>>6468917
I play on gzdoom with doom strict compat mode, no mouselook nor jumping or crounching

i just really like nashgore and split fullscreen hud

>>6468939
see >>6468936
you fixed the more glaring issues by choosing strict compat, but it's important to keep in mind it's still not an accurate representation of how the map would play out in doom. still, it's an acceptable compromise if you really must have your gore mod

>>6468917
I play all new mapsets I find with gameplay mods.

>>6468936
I'm fine with the overpowered melee and walking over/under enemies.

>>6468943
i mean, you're free to do that
but why
why would you
do you also quicksave every minute

>>6468943
Icarus, is that you?