/vr/ - Retro Games

>>6459861
Try ANCIENT military vidya
Romance of the Three Kingdoms games are great

>>6459904
I actually have those, and the Sengoku Jidai games made by the same devs too. "Nobunagas Ambition" iirc.

Panzer Front is a ridiculously realistic tank simulator for the PS1.

Has great graphics and lots of missions. You can even command other tanks to strategies as your not a one-man army.

>>6459861
>"Koutetsu No Kishi"
is there a translation patch or you read jpn?

>>6459861
Ball bullet gun is a semi snes game, but the gun choices is where military guys would like it. It's like chibi xcom for snes

>>6460036
I read Japanese, but you learn the controls super easy. I tried looking into making an Eng patch myself but I gave up haha.

>>6460019
I have this game too actually lol, I like it a lot. I think it's a surprising amount of fun for what it is.

Gendai Daisenryaku

>>6459861
That is a game that really needs a ENG patch

>>6460160
Any good resources to start learning how to patch for languages? I would love to make an Eng Patch but I lack the know how.

Here are some of my Wargames, I didn't take of photo with my Romance of the Three Kingdoms or Nobunagas Ambition games though.

>>6460270
what are the games in the lower row? are they from the same series as the OP one? I think those are the kanji for "steel"

>>6460019
Still salty Panzer Front Bis never got an english release. Not that it's hard to figure out, but still.
Also Aureole is best girl.

>>6460965
How can you recognize 鋼鉄 but not 2 or 3?

>>6460270
Funny how Great Strategy Expert box looks exaclty like how a plastic model kit would.

Gunparade March. One of the most influential and impressive PS1 games ever made, yet unknown in the west due to its lack of a translation. It has continued to inspire developers to this day, with the recent 13 Sentinels having been a direct remaining of it, with the developers saying they wanted to make Gunparade March for the modern era.

It's too complex of a game to concisely describe, but consider it a war simulator in both the living aspect and the combat. It would take multiple full posts for me to even begin to describe what the gameplay is like, but consider it like 1/4th VN, 1/4th life sim, 1/4th RTS, 1/4th SRPG.

>>6460981
because I misread the OP and I thought the image from a NES game lmao

>>6460994
Dont leave me hanging nigger commence the text dump

>>6460994
Well that sounds interesting, but without a translation I guess that's not one I can look into.

>>6461061
Here, have an old thread where another anon did just that:

>>/vr/thread/3428194

>>6461093
damn, I can barely read yotsuba at my current level, but maybe I'll get to play this some day

Advanced Desunryaku. It seems to be a popular series in Japan since even Dreamcast had its own version.

Konpeki no Kantai is this alternative history franchise were Hitler won. Got plenty of anime and games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrveLxS0tKo
Or check out the Battle Isle series, a German Daisenryaku clone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y21ljsNYlss

>>6460965
Knights Of Steel 1, 2, and 3. All great games. 3 is the best in terms of content but all offer a great experience.
>>6460972
Yes she is, desu that was the only cool made up tank. The gameplay is good for what it is imo, it holds up very nicely. But I don't know why they went out of their way to make those fake tanks up hahah. The seem pointless.
>>6460993
They all tend too tor some reason, I guess maybe it's because Models are popular in Japan.

Anyone remember the name of that SNES game with all the pixel art of real guns? I remember seeing a menu screen w/ an FN FAL in a pastel color palet it seemed.

>>6461258
There are so many games that are either extremely similar to or feel like direct clones of Advanced Desunryaku. I could never figure why.

>>6460270
What are the games on the right? Daisenryaku is the only thing that I can think of.

>>6460270
>Barbarossa
Dare I say, BASED

>>6463829
提督の決断

>>6463829
Teitoku no Ketsudan (Admirals Decision)
Barubarossa (Barbarossa)
Daisenyaku ekisupa-to (Great Strategy Expert)
I haven't played Great Strategy Expert or Admirals Decision yet though. They had awesome box art so I wanted to pick them up when I saw them.
>>6463836
The gameplay is ok, but the box art is dope.

>>6463837
>>6463879
Thanks, I'm interested in these sorts of games but it seems difficult to pick out the gems. Daisenryaku in particular has like 40 games and which ones are worth the time isn't hard to sort out.

>>6463890
~is hard to pick out

>>6463890
I tend to be a retard and just buy them up for the box art, but I haven't yet played a Daisenryaku that I really found super fun. I really want to get into them but it's hard to understand whats going on all the time. Also since they are all modeled off the board games, they take hours lol. What are some you have particularly enjoyed?

>>6463890
It's mostly the same game with slight changes to interface and units.
Your best option for playing retro strategy games is probably going for the Windows 9x versions. High resolution, mouse+keyboard and fast processors is what these games were made for.

>>6463907
I've tried a demo one, and I kept getting rekt.

>>6459861
Hidden? Nope.

Military?
All the mech games. Military Madness and Nectaris.
I guess the Power Doll nippon games were obscure.

Would an on-screen translator be enough to play japan only wargames?

>>6459861
The John Tiller games look interesting, but they're so obscure, I can't even find out if they actually are retro or not, but they look old as shit and John Tiller has been doing games since 1995, so at least some of them should be retro.

>>6464931
I've played one of his games, just the U.I. warrents the retro title hahah. It's so bad

>>6464894
What is this?

Who analogwargamer in here?

>>6465873
I have a collection of wargames that I never play because there isn't anybody within 200 miles to play with.

>>6465884
I mostly play on Vassal but there is an ASL 30 miles away that meets once a month. I’m on the east coast so there are (or were) a bunch of conventions every year. For my non ASL games I’ll teach my dad how to play when I visit him and it’s fun, or I’ll just set them up on my table and play by myself while watching documentaries. Comfy hobby. I wish there were more chit-heads though. Most people like minis but I hate painting so I don’t even bother with them

>>6465873
Waiting for storage case so I can pop out Storming the Gap, then waiting 1-2 months till I can actually play it with someone.

>>6464931
I like the aesthetic of this one

>>6465902
Yeah what drew me to boardgames was that I didn't have to spend hours sculpting terrain and building/painting miniatures.
I also have a copy of the old S&T magazine game Fighting Sail that I picked up a month or two ago.

Do Political simulators count?

I made a mod that replaces NATO and Warsaw with Israel and Syria.

Original game is called Conflict for the NES.

For the truly patrician taste, a computer-physical board game hybrid

>>6466010
>>6466003
That's actually a real cool graphic, thanks for posting. Also that's actually a neat mod concept. Is the mod just changing some graphics?
>>6465984
Yes
>>6465873
Based
>>6466025
Based, love those illustrations.

Wish I could break the rules of the board because NO ONE ever talks about wargames on any of the video gaming boards, but fuck yes. I love them.

Clash of Titans
Stalingrad
Steel Panthers
Close Combat
Operational Art of War III

Fuck I know it's not Retro but right now I'm playing Decisive Campaigns. Might as well be retro given how it looks. It's an amazing game. My favorite aspect is how you can manage your entire Order of Battle from a chart just like you'd see in history books. A lot of people hate the interface but everything has a hotkey (which you can see by hovering over the controls) and if you learn the hotkeys it's actually alot faster to move units around than any other game I've played, but a lot of people who play these games are boomers, and boomers hate hotkeys.

>>6465113
point your camera phone at screen, then google translates it. i never tried it.

>>6465984
>>6466136
Cyber Judas and Shadow President.
inb4 edgy meme of nuking israel.

>>6465873
its called >>>/tg/

>>6466773
give me some more recs wargamer anon, I always wanted to give these a try but never knew where to start

>>6466773
based fellow wargamer. I'll write down Decisive Campaigns for sure, sounds like a good time.
>>6466789
This unironically works.
>>6466792
Thanks, I'll look it up. I tried the rom of Conflict (NES) and it's p. interesting. I somehow hit a Mig-29 with a TOW missile but it only took 50% damage hah. Physical coppies are pretty cheap too, only $12 - $20 for a few tested copies I saw on ebay.

>>6466804
Whatever you do stay way from Panzer General/Panzer Corp. That doesn't mean don't play them, but don't let that color your view of wargames. I played them back in the 90s and thought "this sucks. Wargaming sucks", but in reality those games are more like Puzzle games.

Unity of Command is a good starting game. It's also kind of like a puzzle game, but it has enemy lines and supply rules, which makes it much more like a traditional wargame. It's a real pain in the bitch ass to beat, but I think it covers eastern front combat pretty well. The Ultimate General games are also really good. It's basically like Total War except it's made to actually be a good strategy game instead of just to take screenshots.

From there, Decisive Campaigns. I really love these games. They are full operations during WW2 usually centered around the eastern front. They are somewhat complicated, but honestly if you hover over all the tooltips and do the tutorial you can figure out what's going on and how to do things. Each combat gives you an exact number of how many men you lost or retreated vs. the enemy, so it's really easy to get the hang of what tactics work and which ones dont. There's no magic numbers like in Panzer General.

>>6459861
https://pinside.com/pinball/machine?tags=military
These pinball machines.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke2Hs43AqiA

>>6466959
This guy has a really neat style of recording pinball machines, almost thought he was playing an emulator for a minute.

>>6466792
4u

>>6467021
based Shadow President, underrated title.

>>6467021
Sieg Zion.
>nukes can't kill everyone anyway. Even if you try nuking singapporu.

>>6467047
https://unstats.un.org/unsd/wsd/docs/Israel_wsd_brochure.pdf>>6467021

>>6466959
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXOKZgmyGhY
pinballmap.com

>>6466136

Also partially translated from Japanese to Hebrew, but still only a graphical change of most Israeli weapons and few Syrian ones. I wish I knew how to edit the text and stats though.

>>6466792

I loved that game, shame only one of my computers support it and it's slow.

>inb4 edgy meme of nuking israel.

I prefer the 3rd world war's nuking option.

>>6467462
Neat.

>>6467484
you can nuke japan in a japanese gaymu?

>>6459861
Iron Storm is kino

>>6466792
>inb4 edgy meme of nuking israel.
I nuked China instead, then tried to assasinate their leader using CIA niggers. After that China nuked USA, one of my secretaries that didn't resign yet got blasted by nukes and then Russia declared war on USA. The End. Thank you, God bless you, and God bless the United States of America. Fuck you China... fuck you.

Does anyone knows of any text /minimal graphics Politica simulator like this one?

>>6467892
KODP is political

>>6466792
What meme? It's coming sooner or later.

PTO II and Steel Panthers WW2 are my favourites

>>6459861
Apparently they made two sequels to that game, i might give it a spin

>>6460019
Another game that i always wanted to play but never did

>>6466773
isn't there a grand-strategy-general in /vg/?

Not a hardcore milsim but Metal Max has some nice tanks.
MM1 on the Famicom was very Wehrmacht heavy, MM Returns on the SFC gave more variety with things like the Abrams or Gepard.
Metal Saga on the PS2 has one of the best tank selections in my opinion with Wiesel, M3 Lee, S-Tank, StuG 3, Maus and various others.

>>6468478

MM?

>>6464931
Matrix Games is still active.

>>6460019
Panzer Front Ausf.B for the PS2 is probably one of the best WWII tank combat simulators ever made, but no one's ever heard of it.

>>6468956
Funnily enough, I've actually played this. I have the Rom. It's a really cool title, unfortunately, to get it to work you need to do a lot of finagling with emulators. Or at least I did. To make sure it was the proper resolution. I definitely recommend this game.

>>6467825
Iron storm definitely has kino graphics for a daisenryaku.
>>6468148
P.T.O II looks like it has some kino gameplay at a glance, definitely will check it out. Steel Panthers WW2 has some really in-detail graphics for a daisenryaku style game.

Check >>6460270, I own both 1, 2, and 3. All great games in my opinion. 1 is my favorite but not because it's the best game.

Panzer front is my 2nd favorite PS1 game, (behind MGS). It's a bit janky, it pushes the hardwares limits, leading to stuff over like 2000 meters away looks like it's floating (ground doesn't render). I definitely recommend trying it.
>>6468478
This feels like a Japanese RPG set in Mad Max with a ton of random fantasy elements thrown in + some tanks. hahaha.

>>6468148
>>6466773
I've been playing lots of SPWW2 lately, definitely one of my favorite turn-based military sims.

It's the most fun in small-medium sized scenarios that require lots of armor-infantry-artillery coordination.

>>6460270
Very nice collection anon.

>>6468984
Hell yeah anon, it's well worth the time it takes to get running with an emulator.

The Ausf. B rom was hard as hell to track down, but I can upload it here if anyone wants it.

Are there any other apache sims apart from Longbow 2 which allows 2 player to control 1 helicopter? Longbow 2 would be perfect but it always crashes after missions and keyboard controls don't work properly.
>>6466894
>Whatever you do stay way from Panzer General/Panzer Corp...
Well that explains a few things lol.
Do you have any recommendations for a begginer friendly napoleonic wargame?

>>6469015
Ausf. B has some really unique gameplay for consoles of its time. The graphics are still impressive as the cannon barrels will move radio wires and such. I found the invasion of France to be super hard though, so many French tanks you can't kill with 20mm hahah. I should pursue a physical copy desu.

>>6467825
>you can win WW2 as the axis
based

>>6469015
Also, one thing that is really was unfortunate about Ausf. B is that so much content was cut. There are a lot of tanks and vehicles that just aren't used. Like the Type 95 and others. You can still use all of them in the target practice mode though. Very sad.

>>6466894
those are some nice recs anon, thank you

>>6465873
How the fuck are you playing ASL without a copy of Beyond Valor. As in, it has _required_ shit for you to play any other module in it.

>>6470085
I got Beyond Valor and Red Barricades used at an estate sale. BV was missing the box and it wasn't the full set (missing some maps and most of the scenarios) but it had all the counters so I could buy the expansions I wanted. Yanks is what I got into ASL specifically to play. Dat box art, dem fucking scenarios. I'll probably check out For King and Country when it's out, not really interested in anything else.

somewhat related. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpQveRzD3sQ

>>6470165
what in the absolute fuck

Is Panzer Elite good?

>>6461423
>Konpeki no Kantai is this alternative history franchise were Hitler won. Got plenty of anime and games.
It's about Isoroku Yamamoto reincarnating into his younger self while retaining knowledge of the future to turn the tides against the US, and later go against Hitler.

>>6471253
Oh yeah and Hitler loses

>>6468956
I bust this out (well... ROM...) and play for a few hours every couple months. PF Ausf B really is an amazing game and well worth the time to get the hang of.

>>6471253
Jesus christ nip fantasy level 1000

>>6469060
you can do that in Civ games already.

>>6459861
Back in the day this game was banned from import here because of the intro.

>>6472596
Banned from the U.S.? lmao wut

>>6472601
Germany

>>6472657
Ah based, I can see why. It Chronicles Hitlers rise to power.

>>6471687
Basically. "Japan did nothing wrong", China is ignored, and FDR is a blonde goofy villain who can walk on two legs. The funny thing is that Yamamoto didn't want to go to war on either the US or China, so if he was sent back in time, he'd just have more ammo to stop it from happening.

>>6471104
I haven't tried it yet, but it has a mod to make it look better at least.