/vr/ - Retro Games

But SM64 is bad, anon kun.

>>6457425
Banjo Kazooie?

>>6457425
Why? Because he simply could not have been stopped.

>The Greatest Video Game of All Time

>>6457425
croc

>>6457425
Doom or Quake. Quake came out the same year and has faaaaaaaaaaar reaching legacies

jumping flash! 2

>>6457425
Not even in the top 5 for N64.

>>6457626
What's in?

>>6457425
40 Winks obviously.

>>6457425
OoT obviously.

>>6457443
>soiboy_gaping_mouth_crazed_look.jpg

>>6457425
donkey kong country on snes

>>6457429
>>6457443
>>6457626
>>6457662
you zoomers are depressing

i'd like to leave it at that but i know you'll zoompost more unless i spoil this for you: OP was referencing a very famous historical phrase which was omnipresent in the press and marketing at the time of SM64's release which you'd definitely recognise if you weren't retarded diaper baby larpers

>>6457702
>i-i wasn't being r-retarded, its a reference

>>6457425
are you retarded OP

>>6457715
repent zoomer

>>6457716
Terrible. Absolutely terrible.

>>6457716
Are you brain damaged?

>>6457723
What's with people like this news journo constantly pretending their reactionary opinions are authoritative in any way? And at any rate, how can one game be "the greatest game of all time"? There are many, MANY different genres and types of games and saying a 3D platformer is representative of all of them is retarded.

>>6457732
it's actually part of a quote

zoomers, i tell you what

>>6457729
>>6457730
keep bootlicking your "flawless" masterpieces.
it's not my fault that you grew up with an inferior cartridge-based system

>>6457754
Are you really so mentally ill you can't see how hilariously unpolished and fidgety that webm looks.

>>6457758
It's a TAS you fucking idiot. Don't forget that you can clip through walls just by backwards long-jumping in SM64 too.

>>6457760
>It's a TAS you fucking idiot.
No shit, but the clunkiness of the engine still shines through. Anyways gamers pretty much agree the sonic games are dramatically inferior to SM64

>>6457754
>"flawless" masterpieces.

the zoom streak continues
mario 64 being the "Greatest" wasn't a quality judgement. it doesn't mean "best", it meant "most important", which at the time it extremely was

nobody had even played it yet

>>6457768
>it meant "most important", which at the time it extremely was
not him but very debatable. I don't know what makes Mario 64 more important than games that trailblazed other genres like Monkey Island and Daytona USA.

>>6457773
>. I don't know what makes Mario 64 more important
that is because you are the zoomer

but this is a historical matter
it's what was in the press at the time
practically every fucking gaming magazine
whether you agree with the sentiment or not

thinking it's something of debate 25 fucking years later is a symptom of possessing a smooth and undeveloped brain

rip OP you put too much faith in this kindergarten

>>6457716
Crash Bandicoot was never even good though. This is my sole big "contrarian" /vr/ opinion and im sticking to it

>>6457732
It's to sell magazines dumbass. Calling it the "greatest of all time" and like "nothing you have ever seen before" is what's known as a "hook". You are then encouraged to buy the magazine for a "12 page exclusive look" into that game.

>>6457439
this game was incredibly polished for a gimmick title

>>6457716
lmao what garbage taste. Imagine thinking Crash isn't garbage shit tier let along Sonic Adventure 1 is the best ever

>>6457813
>>6457851
>>6457768
>>6457764
>t.
game I played as a kid != best game
sunshine > 64
literally any platformer ever > banjo-"walk two inches an hour"ie

>>6457813
Not only was it good, it was better than SM64.

>>6457815
>It's to sell magazines dumbass.
And yet people still parrot it 20 years later.

>>6457873
Proof that it's a good headline.

>>6457883
yeah I guess you're right.

>>6457660
If we're talking about "greatest" in terms of perception and not quality, then this is indeed the obvious answer.

>>6457449
The entire 3D platformer genre and subsequently all 3rd person action games are built on SM64's blueprint. Likewise all FPSs are built on Quake's but I would say they're equal in importance.

>>6457723
>>6457702
I'm not impressed

>>6457430
>Banjo Kazooie?
Simply wouldn't have been the game it was without Super Mario 64 existing, and I love Banjo-Kazooie so I'm not saying that to criticise it.

>>6457872
You shut your whore mouth

>>6458115
could this be related to the fact that nobody cares about impressing small children

>>6457873
it was part of a quote
the thing it's quoting relates to a specific event in the industry
the person being quoted is someone you might have heard of in your youtube videos that give you your opinions
it wasn't that one magazine, it was referenced extensively at the time and for like a decade later

it is strange how zoomers think it doesn't matter if they're tragically and blatantly wrong as long as they keep replying endlessly

>>6458226
Extremely based post.

Well, 3D platformers (and 3D action/adventure games by extension) probably would have went down a different path, since the only other examples of 3D platformers that came out around the same time that I can think of off the top of my head are Bubsy 3D (which sucks, so probably wouldn't have been a huge influence) and Crash Bandicoot. I suppose there was also Jumping Flash, but I'm not sure if that would have been a big influence regardless.

I feel like people would have payed way more attention to Quake outside of the PC circles though, and most likely that would have taken that spot.

>>6458226
>it was part of a quote
>the thing it's quoting relates to a specific event in the industry
>the person being quoted is someone you might have heard of in your youtube videos that give you your opinions
>it wasn't that one magazine, it was referenced extensively at the time and for like a decade later
This only clicks if I read or give a shit about gaming magazines. I don't so it didn't.

>>6457702
>OP (you) was referencing a very famous historical phrase which was omnipresent in the press and marketing at the time of SM64's release
>Millions of nintendrone to this day unironically think this
>But you expected everyone to immediately think of a bunch of buzzphrase in the 90s
>From an industry that has a buzzphrase for every single product they're paid to shill

>>6457425

Certainly it would have been Nigel Mansell's World Championship Racing.

Whatever other game Nintendo told their slaves to like

>>6458292
>>6458336
actually you dumb larping childe this is an incredibly well-known "meme" that gets posted on this board with regularity and used to be widespread on every other gaming forum as well for that matter

you're trying to cope now but you'll pretend you've always known all about it next time, won't you

We'd still be waiting for it.

>>6458436
>you're trying to cope now but you'll pretend you've always known all about it next time, won't you
No, Anon, I'm a 33 year old man and I'll have forgotten this conversation ever took place by this time tomorrow. Ditto for your unfunny "meme", however fucking popular it was for a whole 72 hours.

>>6458452
if you were actually convincing I'd say it's sad that you're still using these pathetic zoomer tactics

anyway by the time you do grow up hopefully you'll figure out that nobody cares who you are, only what kind of stupid faggotry you say (exhibit a: all the blindingly dumb shit you've tried out in this thread)
and that making that kind of affirmation is shooting yourself in the foot

>>6457716
>>6457754
>>6457760

Only a third of SA2 is actually decent at best.

>>6457628
Starfox 64
Ocarina of Time
Quake
Hexen
Perfect Dark

you cannot argue with this and if you haven't played and beaten Quake or Hexen on N64 then you are gay and don't get to have an opinion.

>>6457924
Shooters are released built on Doom's imprint. In many respects, Quake was just Doom in 3D. The multiplayer on the other hand, was Quake's real innovation.

>>6458826
>Quake was just Doom in 3D
Spoken like someone who never beat Quake on nightmare, and probably never beat Quake at all.

>>6458489
>if you were actually convincing I'd say it's sad that you're still using these pathetic zoomer tactics
By your own admission your standard of proof is impossible to meet. We have nothing further to discuss, nutcase anon. Have a great day.

>>6458843
I've still got my shareware disk with all of the poorly protected id games on it.

>>6458834
I've still got my shareware disk with all of the poorly protected id games on it.

>>6458850
Did you reply to the wrong Anon?

>>6458857
I'm still mad that I lost my chex quest cd, It was literally my first FPS.

>>6458857
Then you should know better. The physics engine alone puts Quake in a much different category, not to mention the levels which are much more labyrinthine and puzzle-centric and often have non-linear solutions or multiple exits. The enemy design and combat in general is also based on a much different set of principles than Doom, requiring a greater knowledge of which weapons are more effective on particular foes and how you can best use your environment to dispatch them. Outside of both games being older first person shooters with a limited weapon set and satanic imagery, there aren't many comparisons to make.

>>6458819
Beating Hexen 64 was one of the greatest gaming experiences of my life. Fuck the haters, the atmosphere in that game is unreal.

>>6457425
if mario 64 didn't exist rockstar wouldn't have basis for niko belic, john marston, cole phelps and every other main character in their open world games and how they control on foot
i know its not retro i just hate how m64 and nu-rockstar games feel

>>6457425
>bing bing wahoo
>good

>>6457425
mario world

>>6457425
Super Mario 63. How the fuck did it get many sequals?

>>6459010
>/v/ console war memes from the 8th gen
>relevant on /vr/

>>6459063
Mario started speaking on 5th gen, not 8th gen, ya dingas.

>>6459074
Yeah? But the bing bing memes are /v/ 8th gen console war ammo.
Also, Mario was based in 64.
SO LONG GAY ANON

>>6459074
>Mario started speaking on 5th gen
Wrong, zoom zoom.
/v/ is your place, stay there.

>>6459079
Imagine thinking an obese 56% plumber from babby's first scotformer series is based. Rofl...

>>6459097
Talk like a normal human being before I beat you with a floorboard.

>>6459097
>56%
Projecting, anon? Go console war on /v/. Nobody wants you here.

>>6459097
>scotformer
color me surprised, it's the "scotformer" shitposter.

>>6457429
*tip*

>>6457445
Pffft, everyone knows it would be Spyro.

>>6457425

Ocarina already was

If Mario 64 didnt exist then Crash wouldnt have had competition and performed a lot better.

>>6457425
Then the 3D Yoshi game that eventually went on to become Croc would've taken its place.

>>6459296
>Crash wouldnt have had competition

>>6457702
OOT was promoted as the greatest of all-time the moment it came out.

>>6457425
Mario 64

>>6458452
>No, Anon, I'm a 33 year old man and I'll have forgotten this conversation ever took place by this time tomorrow.
If your memory is really that bad you might have some brain damage

>>6457813
Currently playing through it again since the 90s and it is still good.