/vr/ - Retro Games

>>6456290
Yes, it's not bad, but it's not a great game either. It reminds me more of bubble bobble or rainbow islands.

>>6456304
Rainbow Islands is certainly a lot better but that game came out like 3 years later
Also it doesn't really remind me of Bubble Bobble at all. Mario Bros kinda does in a roundabout way, since when I think Bubble Bobble I think of "single screen arcade game with increasing points for defeating multiple enemies at once or in quick succession"

>>6456290
>you get used to
is not about that, but rather if the game really is better thanks to it. Is like giving SMB fall damage like in DK, it will be more hard, but will it flow better?

>>6456304
>bubble bobble
>a game about climbing

>>6456332
>Is like giving SMB fall damage like in DK
I'd like a rom hack of that, just to see if it's even possible to beat. Make it so you die if you fall farther than your jump height, would be interesting.

>>6456290
remake when?

>>6456337
>last life
>fail to make full speed jump to flagpole at stage end
>game over

I would have never thought of Ice Climber as a bad game, it's a classic. Very tough, though.
Also, was this game the first one to feature jazzy music? (the bonus stage)

>>6456348
this looks good. reminds me of the mario bros remake featured in like five different GBA games

>>6456290
I just played this today, and it’s honestly way worse than I remember.
The jumping is awful, and I keep falling through the fucking floor.
It’s a fun concept, but it just feels broken.

>>6456290
Like most arcade games, the real game was to make a game that seemed approachable while actually killing you quick enough to take another quarter.

>>6456356
looks better in motion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pp17AizCBj0

>>6456356
reminds me of 3D Classics Kid Icarus port

>>6456431
>that idle animation

>>6456431
this looks great but i looked up "Mesen HD pack" on youtube hoping to find more like it and lmao https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy7W_tzC-P0

>>6456431
It ain't 3D

>>6456440
Not 3D enough.

>>6456469
It's shit.

BEHOLD THE TRUE FORM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOTqDpWN-Q4

Is it true that eskimos offer you their wife and if you don't want to fuck her they take it as a huge offense bad manner?
I mean, not that I'd have a problem plowing Nana, but man I wouldn't want to cuck poor Popo

>>6456431
>>6456457
suffers from this shit. Too many modern pixelshit indie games have obnoxious jiggly bob idle animations, and I dislike it. The art looks nicer though.

>>6458419
>>6456431
Perhaps zoomers should just stick to new games.

>>6456290
I can't believe there's never been a sequel to this

ZX Spectrum port when?

>>6458660
Could probably port all these old NROM games to Speccy
Might be fun
Super Mario Bros was great but before then their were a lot more unique concepts weren't there? Then after SMB everyone just wanted to make platformers.

>>6458660
1996, apparently

https://www.worldofspectrum.org/infoseekid.cgi?id=0012873&loadpics=0

>>6458419

>>6458720
SMB is too much unless you dropped the scrolling entirely and had flip screens instead. Stuff like Ice Climber or Door-Door could be done quite easily.

>>6458726
Much better than the NES port

>>6458419
It's not that bad...? The hat flop being subjectively questionable aside, how does it stray from or sully the original vision and isn't it anything but an improvement?

>>6458876
the floppy hat is the only thing wrong but it's a pretty major thing wrong lmao. it's not "subjectively" bad it's objectively horrendous

>>6458887
Okay, easily fixed in any case. Don't get me wrong, I don't think SMB's presentation needs to be changed at all, and even Allstars was aesthetically much worse even considering the bouncing hat. I just don't see a whole lot to ree about in this case.

>>6458887
The original sprite has a certain rhythm to the walk cycle, the new one looks pretty nice (sans the hat wobble) but it just looks like Mario is hyperactive, loses the original intention behind how his walk animation should be and I honestly prefer the original.
Overanimation is a thing.

>>6458895
>Allstars was aesthetically much worse
It was basically SMB3's sprite, nothing inherently wrong with it.

>>6458859
based speccy fanboy
>>6458726
>>6458505
Seeing this black and white screenshot got me thinking, ind of weird they never went for a Game Boy port, it could have worked very well, cable link and all.

>>6458907
Don't forget the everything-else they fucked up too. The backgrounds, lousy soundfonts, physics...

>>6458887
it tries to turn mario into a rubber kind of being for "extra wackiness". Is not an improvement, is not a downgrade, is just an entire new thing, missing completelly the realistic aproach of the original and forcing a new style just because.
Personally i find this kind of style tryhard and annoying.

>>6458919
meant for:
>>6458876

>>6458914
>backgrounds
They're especially fantastic. What's not to like about them?
>lousy soundfonts
Again, I don't see what's not to like about them. They're sample-based instead of chiptune, but they're nice and funky. I also like the new music they added to the bonus rounds and the underwater music arrangement they added to the title screen.
>physics
Okay you got one point right, but even then, I never really noticed the block bounce physic change until someone pointed it out to me, and being completely frank, it doesn't bother me or alters my playthroughs. In fact, I might even prefer the physics on All Stars, not sure. Not that big of a difference, really.

>>6458924
>>6458919
The stupid hat aside, it's not that rubbery or bad looking. Still unnecessary, but I've seen much worse in remakes, including some of Nintendo's. Just don't download it. I presume this is some Mesen pack or something.

>>6458932
No, I'm pretty sure I'm right across the board. The 8bit style lends a certain minimalistic, abstract charm. The limited palette gives the game a certain 'flavor'. This is more subjective. The fucking AM radio quality casio tier ragtime-y soundfonts however fucking blow, and you're wrong, and you should kill yourself. The NES version sounds much better.

>>6458948
>I'm pretty sure
>dude trust me

>>6458953
I'm sorry, I didn't know you wanted the science and worked-through math for good taste.

>>6458829
Ironically, that's actually much better than the other one, which stinks of hipster soi.

>>6458961
nice strawman retard, im not even the guy you were arguing with.

>>6458973
You don't know what a strawman even is, you double-tard. Though I'm a triple for even replying.
>dude trust me
He's implying that I'm doing an ass-pull, but it's fucking stupid to even want something concrete regarding such semantic and subjective topics. Where's the straw man?

>>6458948
>The limited palette gives the game a certain 'flavor'
I agree, and I'm not saying the All Stars is the only version meant to be played, it's good we have both. I like the original's atmosphere, but the new backgrounds aren't bad, like at all, they look splendid.
>The fucking AM radio quality casio tier ragtime-y soundfonts however fucking blow,
OK, try to make the All Stars music with a casio keyboard and upload to youtube.
>you should kill yourself
Who hurt you? All Stars was always well liked and still is. If you're going to get angry for every person who likes it, you're in for a ride.

>>6458992
Okay, let me find the crappiest honkytonk piano and orchestra hit samples and I'll see what this bad boy can do. As for the harshness, eh, I'm just dicking around between this and work and don't mean nuthin'.

>>6458998
>Okay, let me find the crappiest honkytonk piano and orchestra hit samples and I'll see what this bad boy can do.
Go do it, I'll be waiting.
Really though, low quality samples are not correlative to bad music. Lo-fi music is a thing (and no, I don't mean the new "lo-fi hip hop" meme shit from youtube)

>>6458987
>strawman x2
of course

>Where's the straw man?
you are talking about sound quality, then jumped to "science for good taste" and "entirely subjective".

>>6458720
Why not to the c64 instead? It’s more powerful and has the same CPU.

>>6458829
The hitbox better follow that hat
>>6459006
It's not about bitcrushing or any lofi shit, just cheesy samples that will ruin even the best song

>>6461065
>ust cheesy samples that will ruin even the best song
Define "cheesy sample"

>>6461050
It has the same CPU, yes, but the NES is otherwise so different that you'd have to rewrite about 90% of the code from the ground up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrN0_iGy2DA

Something like Door-Door would be cake to port.

>>6456290
I love it. I think its one of the better nes titles, and it gets way too much hate. I hope they do a sequel or remake eventually.

>>6463480
>Youtube vid of an early Famicom game
>comment section is full of moonrunes and Third Worlders talking about the Famiclone they played this game on
Every. Fucking. Time.

>>6463518
And I love it

>>6463518
>reading youtube comments and getting mad about it
Cope harder, nothing wrong with people enjoying their memories with games.

>>6463480
Quote I heard somewhere. "I try not to read [Youtube comments], I really don't. If you are an actually intelligent person and you do read Youtube comments, I'm sorry."

>>6463518
>nooo every corner of the internet should be tailored to me

>>6463540
>>6463524
>>6463521
The Reddit in these posts is strong.

>>6463543
It's not reddit to find it interesting that third-worlders really like Battle City

>>6463543
>everything I don't like/am unfamiliar with is Reddit
OK, /v/.
Just cope with the fact you didn't get to experience many japan-exclusive classics like third worlders did.

>>6463559
>Just cope with the fact you didn't get to experience many japan-exclusive classics like third worlders did.
If by that you mean NROM games that would fit on a multicart. I doubt many of them got to play Lagrange Point.

>>6456290
It's basically the icy floors in Mario bros

>>6456290
I actually really like Ice Climbers. This and Balloon Fight are probably some of the few NES games I actually think are still worth playing today that isn't some long running series.

>>6458932
All Stars is overall much better in just about every way. Don't listen to that other autist. It's the same fag who made the same thread every fucking week about All Stars. The physics are absolutely better.

>>6456348
>play ice climber as a kid on famiclone
>seals as enemies because its japanese version
>download rom years later
Still can't get over these weird furry things

>>6458419
But the reason Mario has a hat was because they didn't have enough space to create hair effects.

>>6463419
An approximation of an instrument that sounds off in a particular way, much like the stuff you would find on a cheap Casio keyboard.

>>6463993
Because "oh noes, animal abuse" and shit. Weird how can you murder a video game human in various ways (gibs and decapitations included) but muh doggos? Nooooo!!1

>>6464258
Still waiting for your reproduction of the All Stars soundtrack using a Casio keyboard.