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Is 5th Gen an acquired taste?

>> No.6445226

>>6445202
It's zoomie's favorite retro console generation.

>> No.6445229
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>>6445202
5th gen is strictly for people who got into it when they were kids. I don’t think anyone else would be enthusiastic about that generation of software today. I consider it the dark ages of console gaming.

>> No.6445243

The 3D games maybe. Fifth gen had the most approachable 2D games ever made.

>> No.6445258

It's when games got truly experimental and pushed the boundaries. some of the best games of all time were released during those years, games that expanded the horizons and redefined the way we play.

>> No.6445271

Is there any fiable way to connect these consoles via hdmi?

>> No.6445272

>>6445271
Fiable -> reliable. Sorry for my retardism.

>> No.6445274 [DELETED] 

CD-Rom's storage possibilities, 3D, best JRPG catalogue second only to SNES, first proper survival horror games (sorry, AitD), easy to pirate.

>> No.6445287

>>6445271
Yes, but they tend to be expensive. If you're not going for CRT/RGB autism, you may as well just emulate at that point.

>> No.6445297

>>6445287
I already emulate, but i like to also use my original hardware. But my newest tv only have hdmi inputs, so... :(

What can I use to plug it into the tv?

>> No.6445308

>>6445243
>Fifth gen had the most approachable 2D games ever made.
but 5th gen had a lot of odd and experimental 2D games, when they weren't ports of arcade games, or not-as-good platformers as 4th gen had.
NES, PC Engine, Mega Drive, SNES all have much more (and better) 2D games.

>> No.6445324

>>6445226
anusoomie

>> No.6445327

>>6445297
Either dedicated HDMI converters for each console, or a universal scaler like an OSSC or RetroTink.

>> No.6445328

You need to put some effort into adapting to older, rougher control schemes and graphics, especially if you're a mentally lazy braindead boomer or a zoomer, and i think it's worth it because it was a unprecedented era for pioneerism, variety, creativity and quality.

>> No.6445329

If by "acquired taste" you mean "only an imbecile couldn't find something to like about it", then sure, OP.

>> No.6445387

>>6445229
This. The only redeeming factor was the unique atmosphere of the gen. For example, Mario 64 was really uncanny, abstract and weird at times. Everything else was pretty much a complete downgrade to things that came before, and everything made during that gen was improved in the previous one.

>> No.6445416

>>6445297
ossc, rad2x, ps1digital

>> No.6445650

>>6445226
>It's zoomie's favorite retro console generation.
But SNES isn't 5th gen.

>> No.6445656

>>6445202
not at all. if anything it's the point where gaming became generally palatable, especially with ps1

>> No.6445658

>>6445226
>sorry can't enjoy this console gen cause my wojak meemee imaginary friend also likes it

>> No.6445661

>>6445202
5th gen is the "you had to be there when it was new" generation.

>> No.6445765

>>6445661
Pretty much this. It has a lot of good games but they haven't all aged well. They're still good just not as good as when 3d was the new thing.

>> No.6445789

I think the 5th gen was the best based purely on the variety. I loved it despite not touching any adult or mature rated games. You almost can't do that today because developers don't take risks and would much rather sell another edgy FPS.

>> No.6445794

Yeah in an odd turn of events, 3D gaming peaked right when it started. It became too standarized right after, and then it became politicized too.
In difference to 2D gaming, which peaked at the end.

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>>6445387
It might be muh nostalgia thing, but I think early 3D fits exceptionally well for horror games, precisely because of it's uncanniness. Probably the reason why low poly has been a trend for indie horror for a while.

>> No.6445923

>>6445661
This more or less. I've never met anyone whose super into Gen 5 be anyone, but nostalgic 25-40 year olds. I've met zoomers who got into the NES or Genesis, but never anything in Gen 5 and Gen 6.

>> No.6445957

>>6445923
Most of the <25-year-olds I've met love the N64 and PSX (plus sixth gen systems) but don't really care that much about anything older.

>> No.6445986

>>6445202
Yes, it's like any strange, messy, ugly/beautiful artistic medium, or even person. Your mind has to shift into an unconventional mode of perspective to fall in love, but when you do you fall hard

>> No.6446024

>>6445794
I can smell the /v/ in this post.

>> No.6446034

>>6446024
>/v/ is the only one who can mention politics
Stop being paranoid, I'm not even a /pol/tard, but when you take a glimpse at the current state of the industry you can easily notice politics are much more prevalent in the way games are created/published, this is a phenomena that is affecting everything, at least in western society. This isn't about left or right because both sides are radicalized.

>> No.6446039

>>6446034
Nice blog. Continue this discussion on /v/ please.

>> No.6446095

>>6446034
Not retro.

>> No.6446227

5th gen consoles are the Atari 2600s of 3D

>> No.6446309

>>6445794
Mostly agree with this, except that 8-bit's 2D peak was just as high as 16's, and it dropped off during 32/64 era

>> No.6446446

>>6445297
I use my Retrotink for Saturn/PS2(1)/3DO/Dreamcast(non-VGA games) and it gets the job done. I guess they have the pro model out now.

>> No.6446504

>>6445202
Kinda, I'd say that there's a lot of games that hold up strikingly well now in there. Mario 64 and Crash 2 are still smooth as shit to control and stuff like Symphony of the Night and the arcade and PC games of the time are fucking great to go back to. As well as stuff like Resident Evil and MGS which had a more scorched earth style design where it's very light on genre stuff that makes it feel old.
I think the whole "fifth gen sucks because it looks bad and tank controls" is largely untrue when you consider all the games that are still crisp as hell. And then for racing games there was a much more arcadey design philosophy that actually makes them way more accessible than modern racing games.

First person shooter controls are shit garbage to go back to though.

>> No.6446738

I would consider anything Pre 3th gen an acquired taste

Not 5th gen though

>> No.6446782

>>6445828
No it just looks ugly and indie devs are putting out trash 24/7

>> No.6446803

>>6445661
It's hit and miss. 3D games can be really ugly, and even if they're not they often feel slow and sluggish to play, like Chrono Cross. But some 3D games look great and don't feel slow, like Tekken 3 or Crash.

2D games should be approachable to anyone though, at least as much so as SNES games. I started playing Lunar recently and it's got some of the nicest-looking sprites I've seen. The visuals are a lot like Stardew Valley so zoomers should love it.

>> No.6446920

>>6446738
I'm bordering on Millennial but poor family, so had a NES until about 2004/5ish and then got an Xbox.
Maybe because of what I grew up with, but loved both
Aside from a handful of games was never big on the PS1 (never touched a Sega console) but really enjoy arcade, 2600 and SNES games, all of which I never grew up with.
I can name single games that (imo) make the PS2/PS3 worth owning. Really loved Crash Bandicoot but found the GBA game (name escapes me) and Wrath of Cortex to be far more charming and enjoyable.
I don't think there's much reason to really worry about a PS1 unless you have nostalgia or a very particular interest in certain games. Just my two cents

>> No.6447775

No

>> No.6447798

>>6445226
zoomans hate the 5th gen

>> No.6447951

>>6446034
>I'm not even a /pol/tard I just feel the need to bring up politics every 2 seconds when talking about my 'hobby'
o k

>> No.6447960

>>6446039
>>6446095
>>6447951
>no! stop criticizing current gen video game industry! we're good people! you're /v/!

>> No.6447967

>>6447960
>current gen video game industry
Sounds like you should be bitching about this on /v/

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6447972

>>6447960
You know we have a board for current gen discussion. And it ain’t this one

>> No.6447975

>>6447967
This is a 5th gen thread, so it's the dawn of the mainstream 3D gaming era, that's why modern games were brought to the discussion.
My original post is this: >>6445794
I'm not even interested in discussing politics, and I'm not even american so I'm not obsessed with politics either, but it's very noticeable that video games back in the day were less politicized. Censorship came from people being afraid children would turn out violent/sexual, it was more of a parental thing. Nowadays, people are afraid video games will make people nazis/right wing, or something like that.

>> No.6447978

>>6447975
>I'm not even interested in discussing politics
Then why are you still bringing it up instead of shutting up?

>> No.6447984

>>6447978
It was just a passing comment, anon, an observation, calm down.
But OK, I will reformulate my post so that it doesn't trigger you:
Yeah in an odd turn of events, 3D gaming peaked right when it started. It became too standarized right after.
In difference to 2D gaming, which peaked at the end.

>> No.6448059

>>6445202
Is OP false and bi-curious?

>> No.6448205

>>6445202
Texture pack support in emulators when? I would love to play jrpgs with prerendered backgrounds upscaled by AI.

>> No.6448363

>>6445202
Best tekken. Best suikoden. Best 3d final fantasy arguably. Best tomb raider. Best resident evil. Best metal gear. Best crash. Best mario. Best squaresoft. Parappa, panzer, paraisite eve, alundra, brave fencer. Best xeno series not that pussy shit it is today. 5th gen is in many ways better than 6th. Lunar

>> No.6448368

>>6448205
>upscaled by AI
So it looks like shit?

>> No.6448379

>>6445202
Its hard to find a 6th gen title better than its 5th gen counter part. Its basically dragon quest and maybe suikoden. Especially Nintendo, konami, capcom and square titles

>> No.6448497

>>6448368
Still better than any commercial hd remastered.

>> No.6448514

>>6445387
The uncanniness and the open backgrounds let you fill in more with your imagination zoomtard

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6448558

>>6447972
>most milequost pussy, small government conservative is a "fascist"

Fuck, white liberals/leftists should just be genocided. There's no negotiating with these subhuman animals.

>> No.6448597

I think the 5th gen 3D games haven an odd charm and look to the graphics. They haven't all aged well, but some of them still hold up surprisingly well. The Crash, and Spyro games still look pretty nice all things considered.

>> No.6448903

>>6448597
Its been said before, but generally the more cartoony/stylized games(like Crash/Spyro) hold up better than the games that aimed for realism(like Silent Hill).

>> No.6448910

>>6448597
oh 100% I think 5th gen 3D games are just something special, theres something so pleasing about just popping a CD into a PS1, hearing the disc spin up to speed, and watching this old industrial looking thing produce a game with so much life. It's just so magical man.

I love finding the odd gem, because it legitimately feels as special as it used to when I was a kid, finding some obscure ps1 game and feeling like you're the first in the world to experience something, especially when you discover a great game through like a demo then buy the full thing.

That happened to me with bloody roar 2, I fell in love with that game, I genuinely think it could have gotten to the level of tekken if it was pushed further and was better known. That game feels so good to play and looks great for the PS1.

Plus theres all those net yaroze games and as such which feel kind of special if they're done right. Knowing this was a very primitive form of indie game development with lots of these just oozing charm.

>> No.6448912

>>6445226
That's 6th gen you fucking retard

>> No.6448916

>>6448912
>6th gen
>retro

sup zoomer.

>> No.6449025

>>6448363
>Best resident evil.
I like 2 as much as the next guy but nah.

>> No.6449029

>>6448916
Thats the point

>> No.6449551

>>6448916
Sup faggot

>> No.6450079

Still better than whats coming out these days

>> No.6450247 [DELETED] 

>>6450079
Yeah liberal faggots have turned gaming into their soap box which has ruined the industry

The left can not create, it can only corrupt and destroy

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>>6450247

>> No.6450273

>>6450247
It's best not to remind us and just keep it comfy anon

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6450471

>>6448916
>>6449029
it's been literally two decades
by this logic, the NES wouldn't have been considered retro by 2005

cope, seethe, and dilate
it's retro

>> No.6450472

>>6450471
>6th gen
isn't the dreamcast 6th gen? that's allowed right? why wouldn't the rest be allowed?

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6450482

>>6450472
hiro or whoever is in charge is a faggot and won't give this board the urgent update it needs

it's fucking long overdue now

>> No.6451259

>>6450471
you seem to be brain-damaged, as even in 2005, NES was a platform "launched in 1999 or earlier"

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>>6451259
what the fuck are you saying? so ONLY stuff from 1999 or earlier is retro now?
please explain your definition of retro you retarded boomer

>> No.6451643

>>6451640
Because the board is abandoned, unfortunately he is technically correct. In this pocket universe, it's always 1999.

>> No.6451648

>>6451643
Feel free to explore the vast multiverses outside of this board.

>> No.6451654

>>6451643
Maybe there will be an update to the sticky when the 9th gen consoles come out.

>> No.6451669

>>6450482
It should be allowed when the next get comes out right?

>> No.6451687

We have something nice here, why are 6th gen babies so desperate to ruin it?

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6451726

just rename the board "20th century vidya" and you can stop arguing about retro

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>>6451687
Because it's the best gen and deserves a proper haven

/v/ is fucking garbage

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>>6451648
No...No, I think I'm comfortable right here, pard.

>> No.6451738

>>6451654
>Maybe there will be an update to the sticky when the 9th gen consoles come out.
Don't count on it. This is Hiro's personal money printer, and /vr/ ain't an essential part for spittin' out dem dolla bills.

>> No.6451747

>>6451726
That's what I've been saying. Remove the "retro" from the title and make it crystal clear in the sticky that no hardware made past 2000 is allowed and zooms are out of ammo instantly. No more semantics rhetoric for them to fall upon, either. It would be excellent.

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6451797

>>6451747
>just kill the board bro, that'll scare them away

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6451808

>>6451797
>pee pee poo poo if i don't get to shitpost like a nigger zoom it means the board is kill

>> No.6451992

>>6451640
Any kind of definition of "retro" is absolutely and universally irrelevant in terms of /vr/.
The rule doesn't say:
>/vr/ is retro-games-only.
What it does say is :
>This board is for the discussion of consoles, computer games, arcade games (including pinball) and any other games on platforms launched in 1999 or earlier.
Seeing the word "retro" anywhere in there?

>>6451726
People just need to read (and understand!) the single rule of /vr/, because that's exactly what it already is.
No idea why it's so difficult to comprehend for these poor souls.

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>>6451992
Why even call it "Retro Games" then?

what a hoax

>> No.6452238

>>6451640
It’s like classic rock- there’s a cutoff. Korn is 20+ years old but you’ll never hear them on a classic station ever. Same goes for vidya. Xbox will never be retro

>> No.6453256

>>6451640
You wouldn't be so confused if you read the rules, zoomzoom

>> No.6453276

That would be 1 & 2nd gen

>> No.6454085

they have always been bad

>> No.6454120

>>6446782
both low polygon count and low pixel/colour count imagery require a lot of imagination
sorry, but i don't buy that 5th gen graphics are a clear downgrade from 4th gen graphics
they're different as fuck, sure, but they both have strengths and weaknesses
people who just wanted arcade-tier 2d were probably disappointed, but 3d opened up possibilities that 2d just couldn't provide

>> No.6454127

>>6452229
Moot was a Bond-tier internet-villain.

>> No.6454150

>>6452238
not the same person
i hear mid-late 2000's music sometimes on stations who just play old music, it is inevitable
setting a cutoff date at all is stupid, "retro gaming" should be anything that isn't current, or is designed to emulate older games, but /vr/ isn't retro gaming, it's "gaming on systems older than the year 2000", a bit of a weird definition for a board, i must say, the year 2000 doesn't really border anything in gaming besides perhaps being smack in the middle of rapid advancements in 3d graphics hardware, maybe the people making the rules just really don't like good looking 3d

>> No.6454170

This argument should be brought up when the ps5 and the like are brought up.

If there still isn't any bending, you know you're dealing with advanced autism and you should seek out their handlers to get them under control.