/vr/ - Retro Games

>>6438876
kill yourself zoomer

>no Gem Fighter

What is the fuck is that last sprite? It looks like shit.

>>6439386
Back around the time SF4 was released, Capcom decided it would be a good idea to do an HD remaster of SF2. Since HD remasters are all the rage and such. Problem is remastering a 2D game is a completely different beast from remastering a 3D game and they bit off more than they can chew. In the early stages they had one particular art team lined up to make the redrawn sprites, who that had received some samples from that looked good. But them Capcom balked at them for being too expensive. So some cheap hacks were hired instead. These cheap hacks worked on the game for months, being paid the entire time, but their work was crap. Eventually the devs got fed up, kicked them off the project and threw out all the work they had done. They were now down a bunch of wasted money. So yet another team was brought in, and the art style had to be repeatedly simplified through the rest of production in order to get anything done. The end result was full of errors and inconsistencies that didn't even exist in the original early 90s sprites. They ended up spending more money that they would have if they had just hired the artists they originally wanted in the first place. On top of all that, the game was also "rebalanced." Lots of changes were suddenly forced on a game people had been playing for 15 years, which they were not welcoming of. Needless to say, it was hard to consider the project much of a success in any manner.

Also Super SF2 Ryu is peak soul and no one can tell me otherwise.

>>6439386
It's even worse in motion. It reminds me of the phoenix wright remasters. It seems like consumers will tolerate any level of artistic rape as long as pixels are removed.

SNKP also tried their hand at it with Re-Bout, but the problem was that KOF94 isn't really that good a game. 97 or ideally 98 would have been the best way to go

>>6439386
It's Sol Badguy cosplaying as Ryu

>>6439413
Super's splash/portrait artwork is pretty fucking hard to beat

>>6439469
Re-bout looks pretty good desu

>>6438876
3rd Strike for me.

SVC Chaos also had really neat versions of the SF2 cast, aiming for really fluid SF2 sprites in SNK's style, save Chun-Li that got a crazy hybrid of 3S/SF2. Shame the SNK cast is 99% old KoF sprites and the game itself is a mess

>>6439607
Didn’t it have the new Dimitri sprites too? That was one of the few upsides of the game for me.

>>6439413
Gonna have to agree

>>6439623
Including new Midnight Bliss transformations, yes

>>6438876
HUGE FEET

>>6438876
udon was a mistake

Reminder

>>6439405
anybody has the original ryu sprite from the 1st dev team?, not the one from the comparison sizes when they compared sprites from Guilty Gear and others, but one that had all the frames of Ryu's idle

>>6439541
>>6439469
>where takuma looks like has bigger boobs then mai EEEEEEEEUUUUUUUURGGGGGGGHHHH PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKEEEEEEEEEEE

>>6439607
the KOF sprites got a bad rep due to being a graphic style used since 96, but with very little animation, however the ones done by SNK themselves in 2003, were godlike, the capcom characters in SvCC were far more fluid then the old KOF sprites.

>>6439643
>Poison is still Poison
Cucked and trannypilled

>>6440157
Uh, yeah. Poison has always been a tranny. What's your point?

>>6440162
She was only infected with Tranny as a joke in the original to get around Nintendo's censorship. They brought it back in Street Fighter 4 to appease the wokescolds.

Gender Critical is the best feminism.

>>6440294
Is it just me or have there been a lot of terfs on 4chan? Don't get me wrong, anyone that hates transgender is good in my book, but it feels like they want us to be their personal army. They were on KotakuInAction for a while last week, too.

>>6440294
Nothing to do with nintendo's censorship, it was the original game designers being told that american feminists might sue them if they saw games with girls being beaten up, so they came up with the newhalf idea for both Poison and Roxy.
But yeah, original Poison is actually female. The newhalf version just stuck around, but its origin is very funny.

>>6440302
And here's what Akiman has to say about it.
He originally designed her based on women on fashion magazines.
His stance is less radical than that of Nishitani (who outright doesn't consider Poison a newhalf at all), Akiman instead says he considers Poison a newhalf on the US version, but Japanese Poison is still female.

>>6439405
>Needless to say, it was hard to consider the project much of a success in any manner.

The most funny part is that the entire tournament scene completely has forgotten about HD Remix entirely. Check any matches and everyone plays Super Turbo.

>>6439386
His obi is pathetic.

>>6440297
What the fuck is a terf?

>>6440367
feminists who are against transexuals calling themselves women.
Basically anti-DNA XY feminists.

>>6440367
It's an acronym for Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminist. They're tranny-hating lesbians and housewives LARPing as feminists to confuse and redpill the SJWs while turning fags and trannies against each other. While you would think we'd be natural allies with them, they're OBSESSED and turn everything into a transgender issue the way trannies keep going "this character is trans because she wears a choker and big boots," but in reverse. So really they're just as insufferable, and as you might expect from a tranny vs. lesbian battle, it's all idiotic drama. "Gender critical" is a rebranding, the way /pol/ wants you to call them "race realists."

>>6439446
the fact that those are the games that are easier to buy is just terrible

>>6439643
fatal cutie

>>6440378
>turn everything into a transgender issue the way trannies keep going "this character is trans because she wears a choker and big boots," but in reverse.
Are you saying they make headcanons where tranny characters are normal, or that they turn every single topic into tranny hate? Because the second one doesn't sound so bad.

>>6440391
The second one, but it's way worse than you think. You know how trannies will sometimes shut up and talk about games like a regular person? Terfs never do. They don't even pretend to be nerds. If you and your bros are trying to talk about the Mario 64 PC port, they'll remind you that it was coded by trannies and steer the conversation towards tranny pedophile cults and other boomer QAnon shit. If you talk about the Saturn, they want to remind you, oh you can't like the Saturn, because I once heard of a tranny liking it, but the 3DO is a perfectly acceptable system because it has no tranny advocates. If you try to talk about sports, it's the trans athlete thing, even if you're talking about sports where that isn't an issue, like baseball. They have no interests except tranny hate and don't even pretend to care about what you want or what you like.

>>6440404
Like how you're derailing this thread from fighting games?

Terfs sound like they suck but let's keep on topic.

>>6440430
You're right, sorry. Let me make up for it with a story.

At Otakon like ten or twelve years ago, I asked the guy at the Udon booth why SFII HD was taking so long and they said Capcom was insisting on major changes to their sprites and their design and it was causing huge slowdowns in their production. I wonder if their original art was more sprite-like and Capcom insisted on the changes, since as >>6439446 pointed out it looks like the HD Phoenix Wright games.

>>6439973
Is that an emu filter? If so which one?

>>6440157
That's Hugo tho. Poison isn't even playable

>>6439469
Damn that's actually a pretty good sprite

>>6440019

>>6438876
>>6441870
damn, how do you fuck up this badly

>>6441870
Still not a huge fan of the limited amount of frames + very high detail art combo but this looks a million times better and I would probably get over it in a way I was unable to with HD remix.

>>6439413
I miss old Vega

>>6441886
see >>6439405 and >>6440449

>>6441870
heh is not very good.

>>6439469
>water balloons
still pretty good hands down

>>6439413
Was I the only one that felt that Cammy's portrait looked out of place compared to the rest? It looks way too anime, with less defined features, skin too clear and giganntic eyes

>>6442107
I figured she looks that way because she's like 17 in SFII.

>>6439446
The fact people tolerate the ace attorney ""remasters" makes me feel sick