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tenchu

>>6424597
zoom zoom

>>6424589
Pic related. It's great to dump one or two hours on any of the series' games on a weekend.
Also, am I the only one that liked the arranged soundtrack for Ninja Gaiden Trilogy on SNES? I know I am; the brass makes it sound like an old 80's movie.

I dunno Id say theyre about equal, Ninja Gaiden has faster, more exciting gameplay but Shinobi has far better level design (with some big exceptions like III). NG series is also just the same game 3 times for better or worse, Shinobi experimented with the formula in the later titles. 3 is best NG, Shadow Dancer arcade is best Shinobi.

>>6424670
Yes, zoomers love PS1 games, especially stealth ninja games with tank controls, you got me.

>>6424676
They also even know what Tenchu is in the first place

>>6424589
Ninja Gaiden, and they're all about equally great. And Shinobi III is the best of its series

Ninja Gaiden II > Revenge of Shinobi > Shadow Dancer > Ninja Gaiden > Shinobi III > Ninja Gaiden 3

Is the original Shinobi worth $5 on the Xbox store? Ive heard its like Rolling Thunder, which I like.

>>6424783
Yes it's Rolling Thunder with melee and less stiff movement, I don't see any reason why you wouldn't enjoy it if you're a RT fan besides maybe the setting. Pick up Shadow Dancer too if you can, it's just like the first game but better.

>>6424589
I think Shinobi is the stronger series for me. Shinobi just has more games I love:
>Shinobi
>Revenge of Shinobi
>Shadow Dancer
>G.G. Shinobi
>G.G. Shinobi II
>Shinobi III
Maybe it isn't fair to include the original and Shadow Dancer since they're so different, but the others all keep to the Super Shinobi design beats pretty well and are excellent. I like the NES Ninja Gaiden trilogy, though, especially the original.

>>6424671
>NG Trilogy soundtrack
I like it too. In fact, some tracks are better in that version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-3QEJIMKx8

>>6424589
Trick question, they're all the same series.

>>6424851
This, Shinobi had so many great games, all different from one another. I'd still give Shinobi the win if we're comparing only the NES/Genesis games, which may be what OP meant. Answer might change if we include the not retro NG games.

I'd rather play the Shinobi games but the cut scenes that the Ninja Gaiden games had are really good and I was the Shinobi games had them.

>>6424783

I love that game but don't know how is the Xbox Store version. For $5 it sounds like a deal.

>>6424589

I'll just be happy both franchises exist. Also it just occurred to me that ninja-themed games are way above average in quality.

>>6424589
NG arcade

>>6424783
You heard right, Rolling Thunder and Shinobi are both great. Shinobi kinda copied RT honestly.

>>6425394
Agreed, 2D ninja action is the greatest

>>6425495
>kinda
There's no kinda about it. It's a great Rolling Thunder clone that's arguably better than Rolling Thunder, but it's definitely a copy. Also
>Ninja Spirit
I still haven't played that. Should I go with the arcade version or the TurboGrafx version?

>>6425514
iirc the TG version is very faithful but overall a downgrade as expected. It does have a 'console mode' where you get a lifebar instead of 1-hit deaths, if you're getting trolled too hard. Probably fewer enemies onscreen. Arcade version helpfully recommends which weapon to use, I think they took that out.

Shinobi Genesis series.

While I love NES Ninja Gaiden games they're all a bit too similar in gameplay. Shinobi is a bit more varied.

Ninja Spirit is the superior experience.

>>6425514
>>6425587
Either way its a great game, and its now easy to find the arcade version on the Switch eshop now as well. It's one of those games that does an excellent job of letting you load up on power-ups that make you feel like a total bad-ass as it slowly ratchets up the difficulty.

>>6424589

the best of both. fight me

>>6424676
>>6424681
zoomers love to pretend to like anything by From Soft

>>6425695
Ah Shinobi Legions, I see you are a man of taste, as well.

>>6425702
Yeah especially their best games. What a faggots.

>>6425704
Shinobi Saturn is a great underrated game. I have always played the PAL version because the soundtrack by Richard Jacques is fantastic and improves a lot the experience. I don't know if the game is much slower or worse than the NTSC version otherwise, though.

>>6425695
Shinobi is one of my favorite series, but I could never get into Legions.

>>6425762
Same, but hopping around on the sword like a pogo stick is hilarious

>>6425754
>>6425762
>>6425821
I love the live-action cut scenes. 90's Japanese live action with that direct to video "quality" is the comfiest.
https://youtu.be/PvkjHxwq7ko

>>6424589
Best NG: the Master System game.

Best Shinobi: the arcade original.

>>6425834
The cutscenes are one thing, but the game itself is fucking hideous to me.

Objectively superior? Hard to say but I had more fun with the Shinobi games.

>>6425838
>Best NG: the Master System game
That game blows chunks. So boring

>>6426004
Also the controls feel mushy as hell on a Master System controller.

>>6426004
Still more fun than the artificially difficult NES trilogy and arcade NG.

>>6425702
Didn't From Soft have nothing to do with the original 2 ps1 games? Acquire were the original developers and the 2 games were published by various different companies like Sony and Activision.

>>6424670
Dunce

>>6426048
zoomers have no idea or care about any of that, if it says From Software, they will say they prefer that over either Shinobi or Ninja Gaiden, because who the fuck is Tecmo and lol sega.

>>6424597
why did the Tenchu series have to go to shit like it did, there aren't enough good stealth-based ninja games

>>6426987
I thought the Wii one was pretty good?

>>6424783
It's very good, especially if you like that type of game but one thing I always hated about it was you can't continue on the last stage, which is especially bullshit considering how hard the final boss is and how you can completely screw yourself by making it to that stage with like one life left . One of those cases where I feel like save states are justified

>>6426990
>remove normal third-person combat
>replace with fucking turn-based first-person motion control bullshit

It might have been good if it wasn't designed for a gimmick console that required gimped game design.

>Ninja Spirit
>Ninja Gaiden 1
>Return of Shinobi
>Shinobi 3
>Ninja Warriors
>Goemon I guess even if he's a thief

Forget which one's better, today I realized I have an affinity for games starring ninjas. I love those games so fucking much, you can't go wrong with any of them, do your duty and recommend them to people who want into retro games.

Like this thread has made me want to try out the Tenchu franchise for instance.

>>6427053
>>Goemon I guess even if he's a thief
Yae is kunoichi

>>6427070
True, Sasuke's a ninja karakuri puppet too. Nevermind then, Goemon has so much ninja stuff it deserves to qualify.

>>6426907
This is how far an angry boomer will stretch to make his crumbling narrative work. I prefer Tenchu over NG and Shinobi, and I have beaten the original NG trilogy on real hardware, deal with it.

>>6424589
Shinobi

>>6424589
Best Ninja Gaiden = the first one on NES, and the same titled one on og Xbox.

Best Shinobi = Revenge, 3, the one on PS2, and Nightshade

Which is better? I dunno they’re both good series.

>>6426046
scrub detected

>>6424589
Shinobi 3 is the best game there but NG is a more consistently solid series.

>>6427053
You're forgetting the hardest of them all.

>>6427756
Thanks for reminding me to load that shit into my SNES Classic.

S H I N O B I

Ninja Gaiden is one of the best platformers ever made. It's a little rough around the edges but the mechanics make it a sheer joy to play. It just feels really fucking good to control; everything comes out like frame 1 making everything super snappy, the movement speed and jump height just feel perfect, I dunno. I really like it

It's why I never cared for III too much, it doesn't have the same snappiness of the first two

>>6427756
I don't know that I'd call Hagane all that hard.

>>6428615
The controls and character movement can get confusing.
I find people complaining about NG's difficulty, but the game feels fluid enough and the controls are straightforward so it's up to you to push through on your ability.
And I love Hagane for a lot of reasons, but jumping feels floaty and weird, Select should be used by default for the screen attack instead of cycling through weapons and you need to be very precise if you want to execute flip atacks without getting. It's harder getting used to it but going through Hagane is a great experience.

>>6428962
That's true. To be honest, a lot of the movement and attacking options in Hagane don't add up to much. I like the game a lot, but it does sometimes feel like they looked at Shinobi and Strider and said "That. But with a bunch of shit piled on." It could've been refined a lot.