/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[5-10] Endless Madness, an alleged 'jokewad/slaughterwad/power fantasy' for Doom 2
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=67785

[5-7] Turok 3 mouse injector + more for Mupen64Plus
https://www.turokforums.com/index.php?topic=743.0

[5-8] PR/GLBoom+ now defaults to showing armor color based on what you're wearing
https://github.com/coelckers/prboom-plus

[5-7] You can now create bots in Zandronum
https://zandronum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=9941

[5-7] More new content for Barely Breathing shown off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ehxd0pnUV0Q

[5-6] Live Though Doom updated, added crafting and weapon replacements
https://www.moddb.com/mods/litdoom-survival-gameplay

[5-6] Anon shares a new map, Bridge World
https://www.mediafire.com/file/9ez7nhad20x794e/bridge_world_20200605.wad/file

[5-6] New version of Nobody Told me About ID, a Doom mod inspired by Build Engine games
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LzLpxuNwfU&feature=emb_title

[5-5] New update for Barely Breathing, a horror-themed mod
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9wZq4Eglas

[5-4] Doom mod that lets you deform any Doom map
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1icgXmbBR_k

[5-2] Anon shares his newfag-friendly pack of Doom mods
>>6391483

[5-2] ZCode, a language intended to replace Decorate (?)
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/114119-the-zdcode-booth/

[5-2] "ClusterBloom is a compendium of rare maps with the craziest ideas you'll see in your whole life"
https://www.moddb.com/mods/clusterbloom/downloads/clusterbloom-ver1-667?fbclid=IwAR3-cvF7li4clqcfaG4501TJOKoXLrmPGjuT7QnW_1dJz-66sFhJfx8mii0

[5-1] Austerity v3.0 RC1
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=68428&p=1149505#p1149505

[5-1] DBP23: Evil Egypt released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/114095-dbp23-evil-egypt/

[4-28] Anon shares a map, Sundered Citadel
https://mega.nz/file/ZnYiHKBa#6ZWeaLgeplVO6PgCGmsPOL8_HyV1sSEETi8uCfb_VNo

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Shotgun starting is cool, but only in the mission packs.

I accidentally the news order. Bugger.

Why are we moving onto new thread when the last thread is page 8?

>>6418639

>>6418678
Some people just love to be the one making the new thread, so they have to do it before anyone else.

>>6418679
Who cares
Crispy is best either way

>>6418675
Shouldve done it with that godawful BD impchoke

>>6418691
If you're going to play with crispy, might as well just to with brutal doom at this point. Don't pretend to like vanilla.

>>6418679
This is the typical "works on my machine" situation. In your vid, there's no difference. On my system, there is - Chocolate is skipping and stuttering all the time. Interestingly enough, I tested all the 4 games with Chocolate, and for some reason, Strife works flawlessly. I'll try to compile the others from source and see if it makes any difference, perhaps my OS doesn't like the prebuilt binaries.

>>6418698
> you can't take one step towards the center from one end of the spectrum
> you HAVE to go to the complete opposite end, awlays
careful, you'll pull a muscle with those leaps of logic

>>6418704
>This is the typical "works on my machine" situation.
More like the typical PEBKAC situation.

>>6418698
>>6418709
the horseshoe theory is true here as well it seems
"you don't really like vanilla" fags can be just as obnoxious as brutards

>>6418714
K, just fuck yourself already.

>>6418704
What's your GPU?
Chocolate renders at 1600x1200 for pixel perfect integer 4:3 AR, then downscales it to yourt res with linear filter. This may result in stuttering if you are bottlenecked somewhere.

>>6418723
An ancient Radeon HD4200, but still powerful enough to run id Tech 4 (or ironically enough, GZDoom). What I find strange is Chocolate Strife works just fine, and from what I can see, they all share the same rendering code. So in theory the other games should work as intended.

>>6418667
What is with this dumb fucking reddit meme you faggots keep posting

>>6418734
TLOU2 spoilers. Settle down anon.

>>6418731
The strife is ancient (last updated in 2011), and uses a different approach.
>>6418734
It's not a reddit meme. It's the Last of Us leaks meme, where a woke bitch chokes a beloved character from previous game

>>6418738
>>6418739
Oh okay, I guess that makes it funny then. Fuck you

>>6418698
I honestly feel like most people who use Crispy instead of Chocolate are doing it for uncapped framerate. Which I have a hard time justifying as being somehow un-vanilla.

>>6418734
/v/ is making OC mocking TLoU 2 spoilers when Reddit and Twitter shitters are being carebears about the whole fiasco.

>>6418739
>The strife is ancient (last updated in 2011)
Nope, it's maintained like the rest of the code (and was also the base for Nightdive's Strife Veteran Edition in 2014). Check their github repo. Even the prebuilt one (3.0.0) corresponds to the other Chocolate releases.

>>6418753
Looking at chocolate git, go to branches - Chocolate Strife - last updated 9 years ago.

>>6418762
It's almost like branches aren't used for what you think they are.

>https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Spider_paralysis
lmao this clumsy turd can't catch a break

>>6418773
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9rSdsr5ltE

>>6418773
Huh, I've seen it happen in decino's videos, but I thought it was something between a pinky stunlocking it and pushing it into a wall so it can't move.

>>6418734
The Last Of Us 2, one of the most hyped-up games of the generation (because the first game was a media darling) got a ton of shit leaked by a disgruntled employee, including the mid-game twist that the protagonist from the first game gets violently murdered by a tranny and said tranny takes over as the playable character, and then you the player is forced to beat the other playable character from the first game nearly to death (possibly to actual death, the cutscene was vague). Tons of damage control from the devs, C&Ds out the ass, and now /v/ is memeing the shit out of it to stir up controversy. I'm enjoying it because I enjoy anything that prompts /v/ to actually make fresh OC instead of just wojak variants.

>>6418740
Easy there anon, drink a glass of water. Things will be okay.

Someone put Doom onto a FPGA. https://twitter.com/sylefeb/status/1258808333265514497

>>6418795
No someone put a doom map renderer onto an fpga.

>>6418795
>>6418805
Someone put penis on your moms.

>>6418806
well, ye
how else is anyone going to be born

>>6418810
Parthenogenesis?

>>6418762
That was when it was still WIP - remember, Strife's source code was lost, so they had to reverse engineer everything. But it has been merged into master since then.

>>6418795
Cool, a dedicated Doom accelerator! I hope Graf will make it compulsory for GZDoom in the near future.

>>6418795
That's map rendering FPGA.
Now make separate FPGAs for sprites, logic, DECORATE, ACS and ZScript parsers, then tie them all together in a synchronised system and we can get us a real Doom arcade cabinet with mod support

*teleports behind you*

>>6418832
>DECORATE, ACS and ZScript
>real Doom

>>6418867
>flavoured water is not water!
>movies notr in the theatre is not movies!
>you haven't played the game if its not on OG hardware!
>you haven't read the book if it wasnt in hardcover!

where can i get the hideous destructor's zm66 sprites? cant find them in hd pk3, im also retardd

>>6418897
Believe it or not, it's in the graphics folder, not the sprites. I suspect some dark magic is involved.

>>6418909
>>6418897
It may be in the graphics folder if there's some layering trickery involved with weapon "sprite" being a placeholder, while actual animations happen separately in a layer

Playing through Quake II for the first time as I didn't have a system that could run it back in the day... I am enjoying it quite a bit and have been looking up stuff about the main character/lore shit and my only question is what the fuck is wrong with Bitterman's head? He's human, he's from Earth. What is that shit? I see no mention of weird shit on his head in his bio.

I know this isn't official art but that shit is on his player model too

>>6418929
I'll throw you under a truck.

>>6418929
That's what he looks like in Q3A, where it is implied that he had been captured and mutilated by the Strogg. I don't know which version of Q2 you have, but his vanilla model is your average muscle-bound armor-clad soldier of the era.

>>6418930
Just tell me what the fuck it is, Bitterman

>>6418943
Oh wait you're right, I was looking at the QIII Arena character model, I see the Quake II one now.. hadn't actually seen the model in game

>>6418698
>If you're going to play with crispy, might as well just to with brutal doom at this point. Don't pretend to like vanilla.
What the fuck logic is this?
If we're going to be this petty, then Chocolate isn't vanilla enough either, because it has support for reading .deh files, where as vanilla itself literally required patching the executable.

>>6418952
Nobody claims Chocolate is Vanilla. It's a totally different flavor.

*ba dum tss*

>>6418897
now that i think about it, sprite replacement mods are bloat

>>6418923
>>6418909
The weapon sprites are assembled in TEXTURES using the spritesheet in the Graphics folder.

>>6418964
lemme guess
you edited the sporite in regular editor
then forgot to set offsets in Slade

>>6418982
yes

>>6418930
Sure thing, fatso.

>>6418985
> fatso
hump yo mom

>>6418986
BLOW IT OUT YOUR ASS

>>6418997

>>6418929
He's just mutated from all the nukage

>>6418929
He was an Asari

Daily reminder:

Duke 3D: revolutionary classic, widely acclaimed masterpiece with amazing levels, atmosphere, memorable monsters, weapons, and all american jeans hero.

Blood: fanmade sequel with awful enemies, blocky levels and ugly colours. Whinger cultists also make the game unplayable. Caleb is nothing more than a little dirt on Duke's mighty boot.

>>6418980
The absolute madman.

>>6419008
Oh fuck, that's perfect.

So fucking based, wish I could've been there...

>>6419054
>wish I could've been there
Karmack would've thrown you out for being a useless piece of shit in, like, a hour.

>>6419060
>Karmack

So I just learned about the alternate soundtrack, Methods of Destructions, to Quake made by the same guy who did the soundtrack for Quake 2, Sonic Mayhem. Apparently that is what got him noticed by Romero in the first place, sending in the alternate soundtrack in 1996. I was never a huge fan of Reznor's ambient soundtrack to the game and I think this is pretty good and more what I expected back when it was released. Is there a way to play it with this soundtrack in game?

>>6419060
>Karmack would've thrown you out for being a useless piece of shit
I'd have fucked him so good we'd be married today.

>>6419054
>chinese throwing stars
Please tell me this entire thing wasn't written by a professional.

>>6419081
It's from Masters of Doom by Michael Kushner

>>6419086
And I almost bought it.

>>6419091
It's a fantastic book with a shit ton of great anecdotes and behind the scenes stuff - who cares if he mislabeld gook projectiles?

>>6419094
It's merely as unprofessional and ignorant as you are. But not only that, the formatting seem to be atrocious as well.

>>6419061
John Karnak

>>6419112
It's a screencap of the ebook on a phone you stupid faggot, fucking kill yourself pretentious nigger.

Why are cacodemons so stupid and ugly?

>>6419134
They are kinda cute, but they are probably the worst monsters in the game
>slow
>big
>damage sponge
>boring attack
>overused as fuck

>>6419134
Please dont talk about my sons that way

>>6419138

>>6419141
Go back to work on Blackroom, John.

>>6419143
Git out and stay out and take your forty faggot friends with you.

>>6419081
>>6419091
It's a book about iD Software, not oriental weapons, why does that detail bother you?

>>6419134
Go to hell.

>>6419134
>map with huge open arena and a sea of nukage that extends for miles beyond
>shoot a cacodemon with the ssg
>he's sent flying back to like the end of the fucking map
>have to wait an hour for that fucking idiot to slowly float back so I can finish it

>>6419154
Well, old Kushball also wrote that Crusher has Cyberdemon inside crusher, not Spidermind.

>>6419164
For all we know, that was a detail that was true at one point during development, and then changed.

hey fellas. Is there a doomworld or doom in general discord? Looking for a place to share maps, asks noob questions that aren't worthy of entire forum posts etc etc

thanks

>>6419198
>Looking for a place to share maps, asks noob questions that aren't worthy of entire forum posts etc etc
Oh, you should try the doom general on /vr/. Seems to be exactly what you're looking for!

>>6419134
>b-but why are muh monsters so ugly?

>>6419202
ok
Looking for another wad to play. I enjoy memento mori, dystopia 3, congestion 1024, sigil, first half of wads like requiem, tnt etc.

Are there any quality "oldschoolish" megawads out there that don't get significantly harder during the latter half like some of the ones I mentioned. so ones where map 20+ isn't 500 + fucking monsters and nigh impossible to do with out pussy saves?

>>6419198
Hopefully not. You can share maps and ask noob questions here, this is not a forum.

>>6419210
Try Alien Vendetta on Hurt Me Plenty or even Hey Not Too Rough, it has a reputation for being a really tough .wad, but it only goes balls to the walls on Ultra-Violence, it's much more mild mannered on lower difficulties.

>>6419215
I pretty much strictly play on UV but I will give it a shot tonight thanks. Maybe I'll try UV up to like may 15 or something then switch.

>>6419210
Fava Beans.

Except for Samsara and Guncaster, are there any other mods that work for both Doom and Heretic/Hexen?

>>6419240
Trailblazer

>>6419240
High Noon Drifter

>>6419220
>I pretty much strictly play on UV
That's fine for Doom and Doom 2, since they aren't very hard at all, but for pwads, this varies. A lot don't bother to implement difficulty levels at all, but some do, and in that case, they will usually have UV actually be particularly hard.
If you've never played Plutonia before, it can be worth to try on HMP, as the wad was designed to be very tough on UV (when making it, the authors would go back and redo encounters if they weren't hard enough, until it became really tough for them).

There's no behavioral changes or anything between HNTR, HMP, and UV, it's just monster count/placement. Only ITYTD and Nightmare actually change functional mechanics of the gameplay.

Your post intrigued me so I did some search. Thankful managed to find a download for the tracks here http://p-l-m.blogspot.com/2012/04/sonic-mayhem-methods-of-destruction.html
All you gotta do is download these then rename the tracks from track02.mp3 to track10.mp3 following this list https://www.quaddicted.com/webarchive/www.quaddicted.com/quake-nostalgia/methods-of-destruction-the-alternate-quake-soundtrack/
Note that originally the song named B7 repeats twice and the second occurrence is as an exact copy and not the extra B7 sega remix included in the download. But still I think you can use the sega remix as an adequate replacement. Also there's no replacement track11 so just use the one from Quake's original OST. Put them in your Quake source port music folder and that's it. Did it myself and it works.

Thank you for bringing this to my attention anon, didn't even know it was a thing. Also I just realized Sonic Mayhem worked on Prototype's OST, one of my favorite games. No wonder the soundtrack is so good, damn.

>>6419259
Meant for >>6419068

What do you think about Nobody Told Me About ID mod?

>>6419328
10 monsters-falling-from-their-platforms /// out of 10

>>6419328
Tastes like salty milk and coins.

Daily reminder that Tom is king and his maps with sandy are the best ones from Doom

>>6419328
good song

i don't play beta mods, i'll check it out when it hits version "1".

>>6419068
>>6419259
Actually I went ahead and made an easy to use package for this. Here it is https://www16.zippyshare.com/v/SYSLXmJK/file.html just copy the files in the music directory. Also included an alternate track10 which is a remix from Quake 1 Sega Saturn version.

Honestly this OST is pretty nice, fits well with the game.

Imagine entire mapset set underwater.

Things that Wolfenstein 3D did better than Doom:

>The enemies patrolled the maps when they had not yet noticed your presence, unlike that strange 2 steps stance from doom.

>Doors could open in sideway and walls could be pushed back, both Impossible in Doom as we could see in the secret maps from 2.

>The weakest human enemy of this game was much less shameful than the zombieman, in the penultimate difficulty he already has a greater precision and does a greater damage too, although both have low hp.

>Point-blank shots do more damage, simulating better the reality as incredible as it may seem, in doom only shotguns and bfg have this characteristic.

>Despite all the limitation of this old engine, the maps had more real life decorations such as tables, chairs, lanterns, flags and etc ... Things that we came to see in beta stage from doom.

>Run at 60 fps unlike Doom that was limited to 35 cap.

I know that Doom is a much superior game and its engine too, but it is interesting to see some features that maybe were sacrificed for the game run better on the systems of the time.

>>6419328
I need to implement a menu like that for my mod.

>>6419347
Blessed post

>>6419374
Like an underwater base, or literally just swimming underwater?

>>6418734
>reddit
>sprouted first on /v/
dumb faggot

>>6419397
Literally just swimming underwater shooting spearguns and torpedoes.

>>6419347
*block your sector*

>>6419406
sounds fun, sign me up! Also, all the enemies are the sharks from Duke 3D.

>>6419138
they're the only doom 1 monster with their salt as far as being able to get to the player wherever they are goes

>>6419415
This map is underrated

>>6419415
>block
blocks

>>6419416
No, if such project will ever sprout, its main mission should be to educate people on the dangers of nature's mistake known as jellyfish.

>Doors could open in sideway and walls could be pushed back, both Impossible in Doom as we could see in the secret maps from 2.
maps also had 0 verticality so it's got that going against it despite having ooo two different door opening animations that don't change gameplay at all. please.
>>The weakest human enemy of this game was much less shameful than the zombieman, in the penultimate difficulty he already has a greater precision and does a greater damage too, although both have low hp.
ok. that's what happens when your game has like five enemies
>>Despite all the limitation of this old engine, the maps had more real life decorations such as tables, chairs, lanterns, flags and etc ... Things that we came to see in beta stage from doom.
any half decent mapper could make a lot of those things out of sectors in doom. and still how the fuck are potted plants and tables more interesting to you than hung corpses and defiled religious iconography?
>Run at 60 fps
it sure as shit didn't on most computers at the time

>>6419417
*worth

>>6419432
meant for >>6419375

>>6419353
Yeah that is the page I learned about it as well, after searching around for Sonic Mayhem because I enjoyed the Q2 soundtrack so much and found this, I'm really glad he eventually agreed for it to be posted even though it had already leaked by then.
>>6419259
Fucking based, thank you anon

Pic mostly unrelated, Carmack with ponytail

>>6419432
Wolfenstein 3d has 5 enemies and 7 bosses (fake hittler counts) = 12 while Ultimate Doom has 7 enemies and 3 bosses = 10
Wolfenstein 3d has more enemies.

>>6419328
I really like it. Just wish there were more build like map packs

>>6419454
Yes, but bosses have no rotation sprites. So one Doom monster is roughly equal to five Wolf3D bosses.

>>6419461
Doom 2 Rebuilt it's pretty much going for that.

>>6419351
I would suggest you to try it,so far is great.

>>6419467
Fair enough

>>6419467
That's bullshit, but I'll allow it.

>>6419450
Those post numbers got reversed when I quoted them, not that its hard to figure out which message is for which. Thanks again!

>>6419467
Are you sure there are no rotation sprites for them?

>>6419454
half of those bosses were just graphics-swapped big chaingunners who shot at you and did nothing else. none of them match the complexity of literally any doom enemy

>>6419474
what the fuck am i looking at?

>>6419474
You might want to increase the contrast a bit. I can still make out some of the details.

>>6419506
I'm one hundred 100% percent sure there are no rotations for them in original Wolf3D. However they were drawn by doom modding community some time ago.

>>6419469
There are already a few Doom 2 "reimappings", but not a single complete one for Ultimate Doom

>>6419474
E1M1: HOMgar?

Is this review of the Rise of the Triad remake accurate? If so I'm buying it today.
https://www.destructoid.com/review-rise-of-the-triad-256974.phtml

>>6419532
There's the Way ID did.
Which is excellent.

>>6419240
heretical doom

>>6419558
No. It's garbage.
If you wanna play a remake, play Shadow Warrior 2013.

>>6419534
>>6419528
>>6419519
This supposed to be Low Res Dark Textures + Darkdoom.
This is what is supposed to be without the latter.

Duke 3D textures sure make everything look different.

>>6419572
But I heard it's just Serious Sam with Lo Wang, focused on arena combat areas and the sword/magic more than the guns

>>6419558
No. Not even worth pirating unless you're really curious.

Hello anons here's my new map: https://mega.nz/file/tqwE2IZb#KUqotPs5OYR8INY-klh1YT8zHAo-V2f9zW94TGVULpQ
I previously made Sundered Citadel and I think this one is an improvement but there's still a long way to go so all feedback is appreciated. tested on Crispy Doom and GZdoom, I imagine it works on basically anything else. should only take roughly 5-10 minutes to beat.

>>6419581
Its more Painkiller than Serious Sam and yeah really combat arena focused. But the magic was something I ignored 99% of the time. The healing magic was the only one I ever used in the campaign.

>>6419603
OH SHIT
I'm one of the guys that played your previous one and left feedback. Really excited to play your new one. Be back in a bit.

>>6419558
I hear mixed things about it. I love the original, but I have yet to try the remake.

>>6419581
Sort of. If you liked Doom 4, it's fairly similar. The gunplay feels kind of floaty and not too satisfying, but the swordplay feels pretty great.
If you didn't like Doom 4, you probably won't enjoy the Shadow Warrior reboot much more.

>>6419559
i meant building up on same recogniseable layouts
there are several complete mods for d2 but no d1 one is complete

>>6419603
>>6419616
Woops just found a no texture glitch right here using GLBoom+, but I'll go play the actual map now

>>6419416
And gillbeasts from blood

>>6419621
Wonderful Doom?

>>6419629
Seems like your port doesn't support the sky hack.

>>6419636
The what now
It's just PRBoom+ using the openGL renderer

What should I upgrade to get Eternal running?
I played through 2016 with little to no problem on minimum

>>6419640
Sky hack means not drawing upper wall if ceiling is sky. This way you can have buildings of different height (Although it gets a bit wrong if you try to put shorter buildings in front of the higher).

I haven't yet looked at the map, but seems like it's not done in your port for some reason.

>>6419647
>>6419629
I didn't apply the sky texture to a few lowered sections, both Crispy and Gzdoom still accounted for this so I didn't think to inspect further, I'm seeing if I fixed it and downloading GLBoom+ to test it out now thanks for the heads up

>>6419558
Personally, I think the remake is as good as the original, which is... Just a silly fun little game.
Voice acting is hecky and music is.... Different, but you can choose to play the DOS versions.
Also there's more platforming.
>>6419643
I think Eternal requires twice as much RAM at least. Otherwise, I don't think it runs too different to 2016.

>>6419603
>>6419629
Ok, just finished your map on UV anon. Here's a few observations

>I don't know if it was your intention, but the map felt VERY ammo starved, at least on a first playthrough on Ultraviolence. If this is intentional and ammo was more plentiful in Hurt Me Plenty, that's good then, because UV is being made harder on purpose! Just be mindful that ammo shortage mixed with tanky enemies like Cacos and Hell Knights with only a shotgun/pistol can be a bad combination (you only get chaingun when the map's already over, or from a secret)
>If monsters are inside a cage that you cannot shoot through until you free them, it might be best to make the texture solid, otherwise you're leading the player to believe you can kill them from behind the bars
>Your blue switch, while it does have a blue torch nearby, should probably be bordered with a blue texture. I would even go as far as removing the switch and just making the bars that raise to reveal the elevator be colored blue instead or something, but that's just me
>Having a single 1% armor bonus as the reward for one of your secrets was a bit weird
>Your ambushes were clever, but very forgiving. I think it would be more interesting if for example you locked the player inside the room so you're forced to fight in the trap. Because otherwise I can just leave the area and door fight them like a boring player.
>I liked the idea of the little alleys around the buildings. Maybe something else could be done with these?
>Maybe making it more clear which doors in buildings are broken/unopenable and which are?

>>6419635
>Wonderful Doom
Changes layouts and flow, not in a good way

HontE and and Doom 2 Rebuilt have same general layout, but with added detail and expanded upon.

>>6419725
*Sorry, meant 10% armor bonus

>>6419603
>>6419629
https://mega.nz/file/N6gVQIqJ#LlSaa_nJ4A_9DKGaiIVMRYoYJb6S-C28bwMB9SU5keo new upload with fixed sky textures for PR/GLboom

>>6419725
thanks for the feedback anon, the ammo starvation was intentional and it should be more forgiving on lower difficulties.
The cages are something I couldn't quite resolve with solid walls, because I wanted the health kits in them to be visible, so that the player can choose when and where/if to open them and I couldn't really think of a better way.

>>6419654
I hope the chaingun gets retooled to make it feel more “buildy” and unique than Duke’s ripper, but this is a fun mod so far

>>6419743
now that I think of it, just having a solid walled cage in the starting area with a single imp and a few HP bonuses may have been a good solution to inform people what the cages are for.

Is Quake Champions worth playing for an old school Doom/Quake fan? I would just be using the free default Ranger of course. And is it possible to play offline with bots?

>>6418734
you are even confessing you saw it first on reddit than here

>>6419603
I smoked a fat bowl and couldnt do it on uv near the blue key area.. Hurt me plenty i did it. All i have to say is thank god I have brass knucks on because ammo is scarce as fuck. I like how the health was too but you could grab it from the cages if you had skill..

Needs more ammo man. otherwise that was really fun and the detail was really good looking.

>>6419573
it honestly just looks kinda bitcrushed

>>6419743
Almost but not quite done yet, still getting these here and by the barn

>>6419558
It's the worst classic shooter remake except for all the others.

>>6419774
pic related
(toggled on vertical mouselook to show you on the previous one)

>>6419767
I'm smoking a fat bowl as I type this, small world

is this game supposed to be this hard?
I even missed a super weapon part

>>6419759
Quake Champions: Doom Edition is based

>>6419643
overclock, ram, a new vga

>>6419783
game?

>>6419780
>>6419774
>>6419743
>>6419725
>>6419603
Alright, now running through your map a second time on UV after my first playthrough. I think the ammo on UV is tight but fine. You did well, specially if it's more generous in HMP and lower. I would however maybe advice you include a secret with a berserk pack or something. Maybe if you'd like to make like some sort of optional tavern in the village or something like that, that could go there. But it's probably not necessary.

Something that could be fun would be being able to get up to the battlements near the exit to kill the imp crowd, as in using the elevator and riding up to their height

>>6419809
turok 3

>>6419759
No
If you don’t like the idea of abilities you probably aren’t going to like the game itself
The game is missing a lot of features and modes that previous installments had, and almost never gets updated
It’s also horribly unoptimized and you’ll likely run into stuttering or other issues
And no, you can’t play offline with bots, they thought it was a good idea to make players buy the game in order to have bot matches

>2020
>just today I realized you can auto save screenshots pressing win + print screen
>mfw

>>6419791
t. doom champions developer

>>6419823
>they thought it was a good idea to make players buy the game in order to have bot matches
So then can I pirate it?

>>6419767
>>6419782
DAE LE WEED? XD

>>6419783
now try it with the n64 controller and 10 fps

>>6419842
QC Doom Edition is a mod for classic Doom

>>6419851
Go get some fresh air, Quinten.

>>6419856
yes?

Playthrough video of map02 of 200 minutes of /vr/ is up.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=GJHOBocJA-g

666 minutes of /vr/ when?

>>6419603
link sundered citadel

>>6419876
That'd be a gimmick worth doing desu.

>>6419896
https://mega.nz/file/l7h1RaTQ#6ZWeaLgeplVO6PgCGmsPOL8_HyV1sSEETi8uCfb_VNo I was going to redirect to the news post but some reason that link broke, fair warning, unlike my current level, this one will definitely break on anything that isn't GZDoom

>>6419817
thanks for all the feedback anon, I can tell I've made a lot a progress with mapping because I'm getting specific feedback now rather than big-picture problems. I really like the tavern idea, I may go back in and add that at some point, though right now I think it's better for me to start hacking away at my next map rather than trying to perfect this one

>>6419927
You are getting better for sure! I hope you also noticed through this that starting out on the smaller scale can prove to be more interesting and tighter than trying to design these really big maps with hundreds of monsters. Not that there's anything wrong with big maps with big monster counts inherently, but I mean from a learning-to-map kind of perspective Looking forward to playing more of your stuff.

>>6419860
Well but you're gay

>>6419814

>>6419848
No because it's an ebin live service game

>>6419945
Damn... I like the idea of it, seems cool... I don't like the paid champions and all that kind of shit but the idea of taking characters from the whole iD universe and making a Q3 or Quake Live style arena shooter seems like a no brainer for a hit but I guess they have fumbled the ball completely on that.

Some of the models/textures look cool at least

I'm just pissing you off, I'd like the mod but nobody plays it

Half Life 1 is an overly long game with repetitive levels/filler throughout and sub-par shooting (not HL2 levels of bad shooting mind but the gunplay is at best unsatisfying and on hard just spongey enemies). The supposedly amazing marine AI is 90% hardcoding grenade throws and the like + voice lines that have no bearing on what they're actually doing so they seem smarter. There are a lot of weird TECHNOLOGY features like alien-specific AI that, while neat, you'll rarely even see and won't have any effect on your actual experience playing the game. Xen was actually a good way to freshen up the end of the game after endless bland/grey corridors.

You could cut out at least 1/3rd of the entire game and improve the overall experience without losing anything but filler. Much of the game is just walking down grey corridors fighting the same group of 2-3 enemies to flip a switch and while that's true of many classic FPS games they at least had some difficulty, competently designed shooting mechanics and enemy variety to keep it interesting.

>>6419941
>>6419954
also
>2020
>not being bi

>>6419958

>>6419958
Queer

>>6419964
>>6419969
it's like you guys don't have asses

>>6419958
>bro it’s the current year just shove some meat in your pooper lol
so what about them video games

>>6419972
I have one, but it's only for shitting.

The DOOM Comic: Based or Cringe?

I actually like that they used it as almost a design document alongside Doom II for Eternal.

>>6419851
Yes, I get medical marijuana from the dispensary.

>>6419975
>Shoving videogames in your ass
That's just nasty dude. You play them videogames.

really poor thread quality lately.

>>6420009
Most comics are pretty shit. Except Dilbert.

>>6418667
>shilling TLoU
You people are garbage

>>6420009
Bit of goofy fun in the past. I think Brutal Doom and Doom Eternal marketing ruined it sort of.

>>6420009
It's a guilty pleasure of mine.

>>6420009
Basement cringe

Robocop Doom is kino

>>6420075

>>6420056
>>6419823
I think one thing to come out of Quake Champions that I think all old school Quake fans should check out is #1 of the Quake Champions comic, which is about Ranger. Quake 1 lore is scarce as fuck as it is and the art is really nice in it. Recommended.

You can read it in full here:
https://imgur.com/gallery/SnmnG

>>6420094
Forgot to post the cover

>>6419210
>>6419220
>Are there any quality "oldschoolish" megawads out there that don't get significantly harder during the latter half like some of the ones I mentioned. so ones where map 20+ isn't 500 + fucking monsters and nigh impossible to do with out pussy saves?
>I pretty much strictly play on UV
I think I found your problem

>>6419240
Bolognese gore mod

>>6420105
>GMan's twitter post about his "glow up"

>>6420105
Original
HD
Dreamcast
PS2

I’m sure I got it wrong

>>6420094
>Click image to zoom in
>It gets even smaller
>Have to right click view image for full size
Fucking imgur

>>6420146
It's just opening up for me with a magnifying glass mouse cursor but the images are pretty big already but I'm on my laptop using Chrome.

>>6420009
Yeah and thats why i fucking hate nudoom

>>6420153
I think it's cool as fuck myself. What's wrong with it?

>>6420156
A reference here and there is nice but it went full retard with it and made it more of a joke than it already was by trying hard to make it cool.

>>6420094
>Ranger married a demon
What a chad

>>6420105
Hd model usage should be a war crime

>>6420162
They went a bit overboard with it at times, I will give you that. But I thought that using lines from the comic for the first time ever having Doomguy speak was pretty genius as nothing else would really have worked, and it's debatable if even that did or he should've been left silent. As it was it was only a couple of fragmentary sentences and he sounded suitably deranged as someone who had spent that much time in Hell undoubtedly would be.

>>6419432
Why are you getting angry that Wolf3D could've been better than Doom in some very small categories?

>>6420140
Correct but the Dreamcast model was also used in the HD pack for Oppossing Force/Blue Shift.
HL1 had a different HD model which is the second Gman in the pic until an update that changed it to the Dreamcast one.

>>6419791
Can you play this with bots? I don't really like playing with other people and I doubt there are many playing this at any given time anyway but it looks neat

>>6418667
I'm making a list of prominent WAD authors to keep an eye on, and these are the names I came up with

Which names do you think I'm missing here?

>>6420182
Yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0O8Q69lUbQ

>>6420063
More like shitting on TLoU

>>6420179
Which is funny, because the original HD model looks better than whatever one on the right replaced it
He went from looking sinister and intelligent to a smiling goober with a massive forehead, to a bugeyed weirdo

>>6420094
Goddamn, Doom 2016 style Quake 1 remake/renaissance when???

>>6420205
>doom 2016 style
NO. The last thing quake needs is bloat from leveling up, purchasing skill and upgrade points. If you want more Quake just play Arcane Dimensions its way better than anything ID can do nowadays

>>6420225
>Arcane Dimensions
Never heard of it. What is it, a Quake inspired fan game?

I just want to see Quake 1 get the love and shine it deserves like Doom did along with an expansion of the lore, merch, etc. Ranger deserves it.

>>6420184
Good list so far.
>Pipicz
>years
>Alexander S. 'Eternal'
>Lainos

>>6420231
Holy fuck anon your in for a treat. Its massive mod for Quake made by some really dedicated mappers. http://www.simonoc.com/pages/design/sp/ad.htm

>>6420085
"Thank you for your cooperation"

>>6420075
About the mod,I love how it implemented Emil as a boss after he was turned into a mutant.
That was creative

>>6420235
Oh wow, yeah I am reading about it now. This looks awesome. Thanks bro!

>>6420184
TerminusEst13

>>6420231
Arcane Dimensions is a real treat, it's a huge and lovingly made mapset with some cool new content, if you like base Quake, you'll love AD.

>>6420184
PinchySkree makes good wads

>>6420260
I spent a couple of weeks playing it in 19', very captivating. Even the test maps are pretty decent.

>>6419375
>Doors could open in sideway
Did doors actually open sideways, or was it just animation?

Now that I think about it, Arcane Dimensions could really use one particular feature; a quick button that randomly chooses a background music track from the music folder, that way you could just dump a bunch of suitable tracks in there and just press that button until you get something that suits the level you just entered.

>>6419876
When you give us a set of rules and a deadline.

>>6420009
kinda wished they look more into doom's franchise/fanbase history than just the surface

>>6420313
My biggest gripe with AD was that the shotguns were no longer hitscan. Those yellow projectiles made them feel less satisfying, and shooting those one flying enemies became annoying.
Also, I recall some sort of plasma gun that was basically Doom 64’s. They could’ve made a more detailed version of the weapon from Armagon, maybe change the sounds and damage, would’ve been fun.

>>6420184
me

>>6420009
I find it odd that some people seem to hate it or think it's bad. It's obviously intentionally over the top.
>>6420018
The door's right there buddy.

>>6420205
Ranger would die in 1 second from that many shamblers

Soundless mound makes me want more of this crossover.

>>6420225
>The last thing quake needs is bloat from leveling up, purchasing skill and upgrade points
Speak for yourself boomer. I can already imagine how stupid you could make the game with something like fallout-style perks or just slight overall buffs to your character that add up over time. Or if they played up the lovecraftian horror elements over the fast-paced rocket jumpfest Quake is stereotyped as and you got something more akin to wizardry with bigger guns.

Now I've gone and gotten myself excited over a game that will never exist. I'm gonna zoom myself out of here.

>>6420225
Oh no, light RPG elements. Ree, Ree Ree.

>>6420367
Yeah the shotguns are really unsatisfying and awkward to handle if you don't toggle off projectile fire. That plus the SSG firing sound is taken from Quake 3 which was a poor choice. Would've been a better fit for the single barrel.

>>6420431
Yes completely remove the identity of quake and just make it a nudoom knock off.

>>6420449
>>6420367
You can revert to hitscan shotguns with a console command (impulse 130).
I agree hitscan is better. Any realistic shotgun projectile would be indistinguishable from hitscan due to the extremely high velocity. We shouldn't be able to see the pellets travelling to the enemy.

>>6420449
And not even light RPG at that, like levelling up your character or upgrading your strength or anything of the sort. It's just a handful of unlockable abilities. 2016 was much worse in this regard.

>>6420318
I never did this and I'm not an expert on megawads but what about a quarentine themed one?
we can turn the cacos into coronaviruses

>>6420474
There was a smaller WAD where you clear Cacovidemons out of Romero's anal tract, but it got cancelled by the trannies at Doomworld.

>>6420496
well, we can leave romero's anus aside if you don't mind

>>6420367
I kinda liked the plasma gun because sometime it would cause explosions, which was cool.
I didn't love the non-hitscan shotguns at first, but they grew on me a little for some reason.

>>6418879
Flavored water isn't water, and the rest of your analogies aren't even remotely comparable.

>>6420458
Quake barely has any identity, it was a rushed patchwork game from the result of internal squabbles, and every subsequent entry into the series is something different

If anything, adding RPG elements would be more faithful to the original Quake: The Fight for Justice idea than making it Doom but in 3D

>>6420225
Things need to change sometimes. If you want to play Quake as it was, play what you already have at your hands. I don't understand the argument that "new installments aren't supposed to be different from the ones that came out almost a quarter century ago". Doom 2016 and Eternal were amazing in their own ways and were made with nothing but love for the classics. That's exactly what Quake deserves too.

Why are there no good Commander Keen wads for doom?

If done right it could be just as iconic as chex quest and there is one out there called Commander Keen 2.5D but its lacking in many areas sadly.

>>6420561
I'd be fine with a new Quake but I don't want a big elaborate upgrade system. That shit actually hurts my incentive to replay the new doom games, cus starting a new file without the upgrades feels fucking awful.

>>6420561
>Doom 2016 and Eternal were amazing
They're pretty mediocre and the only reason people put them on a pedestal is because every other fps that's coming out is complete garbage so they look better in comparison.

What are some wads?

For those who went in Wolfenstein 3D mods,which one is superior between Project Toten Eisenritter and Castle Totenkopf?

Friendly reminder that Quake 3's CROM FFA is still populated and you should play.

>>6420561
Things need to change for the better. Nudoom was not that lmao "love for the classics" lol sure especially with how they took nothing from them except for the doom comic memes and the look of the demons in eternal. Shitty map design, awful weapon balancing and bloated progression systems sure are great improvements!!

>>6420583
That's some self-defeating reasoning. But sure, let's pretend your point exists.

>>6420583
And then Dusk came along and did everything better than doom 2016

>>6420458
>>6420547
Quake has an identity, but most of Quake's identity lies in its style and aesthetics, and then its movement physics. Retaining those would be very easy even if you go for a perk system.
The original game is a delayed-rushed patchwork and compromise, but that's also part of what makes the game what it is, all the medieval gothic shit spliced with a sci-fi action shooter was done kind of as a hurried necessity, but it made it stand out at the time, it has a lot of character that way.

Like imagine if in the last two months of Diablo's development, Blizzard North decided "FUCK! Let's turn it into a sci-fi shooter with guns!" with barely any time to alter it, they'd have to keep a lot of the sword & sorcery stuff and demons, because that's almost all the work they've done.
It wouldn't be a typical sci-fi shooter for the time, it would be different, like Quake was.

>>6420615
In what way is anything I said self defeating?

>>6420614
the way you need to prioritize targets on the fly, know what weapon to use in specific scenarios to not get your shit pushed in and yeah the map design is decent but certainly not pisspoor. you're just a pissy cunt.

>>6420630
>siege mode gauss cannon, rich get richer
wow just like classic doom!

>>6420545
Sure it is. Lacroix is plain water.

>>6420614
>took nothing from them except for the doom comic memes
The story shit in Eternal specifically is so fucking pandering that it's actually kind of insulting.

having an issue with LAN for Doom. I got GzDoom setup and use ZDL and I wanted to play coop with my brother. The problem is that we are out of sync despite using the same version for everything.

What causes it? Using ZDL 3.2.2.2 and the latest GzDoom.

>>6420596
I've only played Totenkopf of those, but if you do play it, play the SDL edition, because it's completely tits.

>>6420629
Using your own reasoning that they are only popular because of the current FPS landscape, which is complete fucking bullshit because other retro shooters coexist with it and are just as popular.

>>6420635
2016 was shittily balanced. Eternal fares better in that regard. You still have no leg to stand on defending a game that gives you the tools to deal with every encounter bound to the 8 key.

>>6420645
FYI I tried Hamachi and the issue still persists. And no, firewall isn't the issue because we gave the programs permission for both computers

>>6420648
Im not playing eternal why the fuck would i play the sequel to a game i hated

>>6420184
Darch, author of my favorite PWAD Preacher
Eternal, author of my previous favorite Hell Ground

If you haven't played them, you need to play them both NOW. GLBoom+ recommended to play back the included demos and for OpenGL lighting

>>6420641
you mean with the way they quote the comic in a passing fashion once or twice throughout?

>>6420645
haven't tried gzdoom in coop before but shouldn't you use zandronum for that

>>6420651
Way to weasel out of the discussion you actual fucking retard. Go fuck yourself.

>>6420664
We are trying to coop with custom WADs that don't work on zandronum. We got everything working except that sync issue. It persists even with vanilla doom

>>6420651
Anon...

>>6420648
You'd have to be legitimately fucking braindead to try to unironically claim games like Dusk or Ion Maiden or whatever even remotely fit the definition of "just as popular" as Doom 4/Eternal.

>>6420648
>8 key
What did he mean by this??

>>6420670
I never said quake was perfectly balanced. ID just wouldnt shut up about how much classic doom was in Doom2016 when that just wasnt true.

>>6420682
You probably let some head wound unattended for long enough to type out the garbage you're spewing, blaming me for berating you on your stupid fucking logic. I don't think anything on my post can be lent to misinterpretations, but allow me to reword myself to accommodate your clearly below average intellectual level: fans of the current FPS retro scene and the mainstream FPS scene equally enjoy the new Doom games, because their merit doesn't hinge on them being 'different'. They're good games by themselves and that's why they are well regarded. Your argument doesn't work. You fucking cum inhaler.

>>6420641
Aside from Doomguy's origins, where's the pandering? Rest of its story and lore is completely new to the series. You didn't read the codexes, did you? No, wait, your reply to that will be "hurr durr I don't play Doom for its story!". Then why the fuck take part in discussion about it?

Are there any blood maps being made?

>>6420645
Ensure that both of you are using the exact same iwads and pwads. I had this problem where me and my friend had slightly different doom2 iwads and it was constantly putting us out of sync. Redownload everything again from the same source if you have to.

>>6420751
it was the exact folder as mine so it shouldn't be possible

>>6420703
The way they promoted 2016 as being 'close to the classics' (which I don't know where that came from, because the game was never going to measure up to them by virtue of there being a Y axis present and the engine not being able to accommodate as many monsters per map) was probably in regards to surface level shit, things like sprinting being your default movement speed, doing nothing but shooting shit, opening doors, collecting keycards, the combat having an emphasis on moving around and dodging fire, things like that.

The games do carry the Doom DNA to some degree, no question about it. It just runs deep to the point they can veer off into other things to do with the combat to appeal to millennials.

>>6420184
-Gusta. He was heavily involved in Kama Sutra and Plutonia 2. Also was a playtester for Speed of Doom. One of my favourite 00's era mappers.
-Vader. Known for The Rebirth, Thunderpeak, a couple KDIZD maps, a few BTSX maps.
-Breezeep. Frequently contributes to speedmapping sessions, including a map in each Team Rocket megawad, Has mapped in a few MAYhem megawads, and even two maps in 300 minutes of /vr/. Also a Quake mapper.

Whomst here has actually beaten a user made Marathon campaign? Tempus irae and Rubicon here.

>>6420754
do it anyways, maybe something got slightly corrupted when you sent him the files

>>6420756
Thats what made me mad. Im a boomer brained millenial and when i heard all that shit they talked and then they barely backed it up aside from surface level shit i was dissapointed. I get why people like the game though but i guess im just a dumb ass bitch who wants gzdoom maps with modern graphics.

So i'm replaying scythe 2 since i've decided to put it off quite some time ago and this guy is much more obnoxious than i could remember. What do you guys think about scythe 2 and particularly the second part of it's mapset?

https://youtu.be/ewDg4OSq_6A

>>6420795
Maybe i am just bad at this game

>>6420795
The Evil marines are absolute bullshit, yeah. I remember Resurgence re-used them, but nerfed their speed to a crawl so that its no longer a pain to shoot at them.

Marathon makes me feel things that doom doesnt. Wish it was more popular, maybe one day Aleph One will run at 60fps then more people will play it

>>6420773
just tested it and that was it. Thanks man

>>6420845
np, sometimes computers just don't

>>6418667
https://youtu.be/YaYE1fjVLPw
let's party , bababy.

>>6420009
It's not as cringe as cybermage.
https://youtu.be/ew3Di5-s27Y

>>6420105
>>6420179
>>6420198
seems like the original HL1 HD G-Man is some unused model for the Dreamcast version.

>>6420367
>that was basically Doom 64’s
A lot more powerful, though. Though if I could choose between exploding plasma and the rebounding lasers from SoA, I'd gladly take the latter. Felt much more fun.

>>6420594
Wad are some wads.

>>6420621
Fucking this.

>>6420562
wtf? O_O

I need this.

Thoughts on Deathmatch Classic?.

>>6420939
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/a-c/ck25da

>>6420962
Pretty cool actually, I like some of the small changes it does to be slightly Half-Life-y. You don't really need it though, because you could just play normal Quake deathmatch.

I wish someone ported the weapon models, with the muzzleflashes, to regular Quake.

>>6420009
I like it but I don't like the way it's impacted the franchise. People ignore the parts of the comic where Doomguy is on the backfoot or gets hurt in favor of just portraying him as an invincible anger golem; even the DOOM comic, as cheesy and ridiculous as it is, doesn't actually do that in the greater picture. People just look at Rip and Tear and ignore the rest.
I honestly wish Doomguy got portrayed a little closer to how Ranger often is; just a marine forced into a situation with almost no chance of survival who refuses to give in and die despite the odds because of what would be lost if he did. Make him over-the-top, give him bloodlust fueled by the scores of demons he kills, but keep some element of humanity.

>>6420962
It’s a respectable tribute by Valve to the company whose game and engine let them make Half Life, but as a game itself, I don’t really see what it offers.
I don’t know about past popularity, but no one touches it these days, it wasn’t even given away for free in the HL:Alyx special. It’s really just Quake 1 DM but with modified geometry to accommodate for the larger playermodels, and it’s not like Q1 online isn’t accessible anymore.

>>6420978
The whole "doomguy is some fucking messianic unstoppable killing machine" was actually a contributing factor to me dropping eternal.

>>6420184
Ribbiks

>>6420562
Iirc there was one being made like 2 years ago? Don't know what happened to it.

>>6420995
2016 did that. Way more often.

Brainlet question here: how do I use Decorate to make a weapon that acts like a monster’s?
For example, I want to recreate the Imp’s attack, where you press fire and launch a fireball, but if you’re close enough to an enemy, you melee instead.
I’ve been looking on ZDWiki, but I don’t know if I need to (or even can) inherit anything or make it from scratch.

>>6420978
>People just look at Rip and Tear and ignore the rest.
Seriously, in the very next page hes running for his life.

>>6421028
What's your point?

>>6421045
It's not precisely a new thing and the way you specified Eternal led me to believe you were conveniently forgetting 2016 also was to blame for the same thing, to a much greater effect. Oh well.

Soldier Of Fortune has great pixel art.

>>6421078

>>6421081

>>6421085
Guns 'n' milk

>>6421089
Ah, America.

>>6420184
>dew
As far as I'm aware, there aren't any released maps by dew. He's more a prominent playtester for many wads.
I know he was credited as a co-author for a couple btsx maps, but from what I remember reading in the dwmegawadclub thread from ages ago, his contributions to those maps were largely thing placements and balancing, with actual level design by joshy and esselfortium.

>>6421089
Those look more line cleaner bottles.

>>6420978
This.
>>6421028
Have you played Eternal? For all 2016 harps on how terrifying THE DOOM SLAYER is to demons, Eternal spends double the amount of time sucking him off. There's a level filled with audio logs about a human scientist investigating THE DOOM SLAYER as demons invade, and by the end of them she concludes that he's literally God and we should all worship him. The cutscenes and codexes are more of the same. 2016 at least had the decency to keep it in the codexes where I can ignore it. Regardless, it's shit writing spoiling a well-designed but very samey and linear set of games.
tl;dr You have no idea what you're talking about. Also, suck me.

>>6420184
Eric Harris
John Travolta

>>6420018
>really poor thread quality lately.
your post really elevates the thread to new standars

>>6420184
>not captain huehue

>>6420562
Would definitely love to see a Commander Keen TC.

>>6421223
All of that was contained to that specific level. The cinematics never show anything other than him doing stuff or being his usual angry self, not musing over how all-powerful he is like you imply. What the fuck are *you* on about?

Also, there's the corrax entries in 2016 which were spread throughout the game. Which is sensible, seeing as this is the first time his character is introduced.
>suck me
Quarantine doing things to you.

>>6421402
>The cinematics never show anything other than him doing stuff or being his usual angry self, not musing over how all-powerful he is like you imply.
Did you literally not play the game?

>>6421409
All that was in the cutscenes was him standing around or cutting somebody's throat and walking away. The most I can give you is the part where he launches himself out of a cannon and even that can be construed as comedy more than an unironic attempt at being a badass, or the seraphim scene where he's just given more strength (whatever the fuck that means), which 2016 already established. Nothing equating to him becoming a literal defacto god.

Also, the cutscenes are all available on youtube.

>>6420184
Get whoever did Lilith.pk3 in there, and post the end result to ZDoom forums. Sit back and wait.

>>6421432
Isn't it literally just Graf who hates lilith and not the zdoom community as a whole? Honestly, lilith isn't even that good, it would have been way better as a single map or maybe 2 or 3. The gimmick loses it's charm pretty quickly and can't carry the whole 8 levels or however many it is.

>>6421432
Why did he get so mad over that, anyways? Such an odd bit from him. Did he just happen to have it out for the author or some shit?

>>6421441
I found it great myself, especially since different levels tended to also have their own unique gimmicks.

>>6420009
Ruined the franchise. Also the whole "rip and tear your guts" was only on the first page, because Doomguy was under effects of berserk pack at the moment.

Guys, check out what I found. Ah, year 2014, when we still were allowed to have qt grills in western AAA games.

>>6421445
It didn't worked on the latest version of GZDoom and it won Cacowards, and he took it as personal offense.

>>6420205
>Doom 2016 style Quake 1 remake/renaissance
Please no. Current id can't design levels to save their lives.
I mean I'd be up for it if it were only the same old Quake gameplay without any gameplay gimmicks but with modern visuals. Maybe adding some new weapons or monsters.

>>6420189
Huh this is from the same guy working on that Doom Shinobi mod, figures.

>>6421441
I thought lilith was pretty creative and unique. It's definitely not something I'd return to, though.

>>6421508
I mean, considering what happened with Duke Nukem Forever, people had all the reasons to be wary. Glad we ended up getting a decent product.

>>6421535
>Glad we ended up getting a decent product
Too bad it wasn't nuDoom.

>>6421538
I mean, Doom 2016 wasn't quite my cup of tea, but I wouldn't call it horrible. That's why I said 'decent' rather than the second coming of christ or something.

>>6421515
the fault with Eternal's maps is that they err on the linear side most of the time, but they allow for backtracking and the visuals are actually great. Taking Quake's reduced enemy count per fights and constricted maps, they could pull it off nicely.

>>6421538
Don't falseflag.

>>6421546
>the fault with Eternal's maps is that they err on the linear side most of the time,
There's also the whole basically every bit of combat taking place in an arena encounter thing which was bad in 2016 and is still bad in eternal. Such a boring way to design maps. I don't think I've ever really liked any fps that does maps like that.

>>6421561
There's a lot more instances of incidental combat than in 2016 though. That game was always so on the nose with that kinda stuff, it got pretty tiresome after several replays. Eternal gets sustainably more creative with its encounter designs in comparison.

Any retro fps with chill beats and cute girls I can fuck my onahole to? Thanks.

>>6421032
I'm not sure on the specifics, but you'd probably want to run a check for if there's an enemy in the melee range first, and if there isn't any, have the weapon do the projectile attack. However if there's and enemy in range you have the weapon do its melee attack. Look up the decorate function list on zdoom wiki to find what you need.
>>6420018
It's /v/ leaking in. You can tell by the slang/images posted and how hard new games are being defended.

>>6421324
Travolta did doom maps?

I think the chex quest soundtrack randomly playing from nowhere stopped me from shooting myself

>>6421605
The discussions barely did anything to the thread. Or the last one. Or the one before that.

>>6421608
didn't you see swordfish?

>>6421605
>new game bad

>>6421615
Il be honest i didn't.

>>6421618
Where did I say that? Way to prove me right though.

honestly in retrospect the idea behind Doom 2016's multiplayer wasn't bad, it's just that it ended up feeling too different from the Single Player so it just felt wrong, same with the level maker component(honestly a shame they ditched that part for Eternal)

>>6421621
ok

>>6421032
What I'd do in this case is have your claw swipe animation play out, and chuck your fireball, but right before the fireball is launched, have it fire a short range melee projectile, and then when it hits something, have it immediately give the player a token item that makes the weapon skip the fireball throw, maybe go to a different animation.

>>6421623
The problem with the multiplayer was it was a shitty outsourced hackjob that id clearly didn't give a fuck about. Then again this did Eternal's in house and it's still a trainwreck, so maybe it wouldn't have mattered.

>>6421623
Snap-map had potential, but the whole thing was way too limited and controlled.

Remember when this thread was about retro fps?

>>6421628
I think SnapMap would've worked if instead of asking you to create level geometry from pre-designed chunks, they allowed players to make their own levels out of textured cubic tiles, a'la Minecraft. That would've been way better and allowed for more creativity.

>>6421089
>>6421085
>>6421081
>>6421078
Why are the floor textures so much higher res than everything else?

>>6420805
>You don\t need reflexes of a hyperactive 8 years old
If only Sgt Mark read this part of the manual...

>>6421634
because you are not supposed to play that game without filters

>>6421631
That sounds like a solid idea, but honestly they should've just released a plain old level editor and allowed people to make completely custom content. But of course that's not in bethesda's/zenimax's interest.

>>6420562
Commander Keen is a platformer, and platforming in Doom engine is pretty hard to do. I've seen many people try, but only Sonic Robo Blast 2 actually succeeds.

Sure, you could make a in-name-only Keen wad where he just shoots all aliens with guns and you don't even get the pogo stick, but why would you?

>>6420094
Did they ever make a second issue? I genuinely can't find this comic anywhere on any comic sites etc.

>>6419474
Hey, could you upload wads for Darkdoom somewhere? Regular download went down.

Playing DTWID's inferno and come on, this is way too close to the original

>>6421639
I thought Golden Souls 2 did it well

Using shitty dynamic lighting effects is almost as bad as using shitty smeared sprites and anyone who uses either should be ashamed of themselves.

>>6418679
Difference at 0:09, Golems are in different places, I imagine due to different pathfinding. The only reason the demo doesn't desync is because the player doesn't interact with this specific monster, but if they did, it'd be fucked.

>>6421623
The multiplayer component is actual trash and it's always been. I hate that there's been people coming out of the woodwork defending 2016's garbage game choices like it and snapmap lately, which were almost universally agreed upon to be appallingly bad back when they were released. Now it's all retarded circlejerking over 2016 because Eternal assraped them.

>>6421656
It's not in a different spot, look at the floor. It's just that the fov is slightly different and gives that impression.

Am I the only one who doesn't like the music in doom 64? It makes the game feel to monotonous to me, to the point I don't even enjoy playing it that much.

>>6421658
The video streams are also very slightly desynced.

Shadow Warrior crashes every time I die using SWP.

You die quick in this fucking game.

Someone help.

>>6421639
>Sure, you could make a in-name-only Keen wad where he just shoots all aliens with guns and you don't even get the pogo stick, but why would you?
I dunno, I think it could work.

Commander Quake

>>6421668
Get good.

>>6421672
Got any tips? Or just a better sourceport, I'm not shelling out cash for redux.

>>6421668
Play an actually good game instead.

>>6421650
>this is way too close to the original
Eh, I can't really think of any area in the iwad that this could be directly copying.

>>6421674
Try Raze, it is made by le no chicken and it seems to werk.

>>6421676
The entrance area just feels like a beefed up version of e3m1

>>6421676
Very evocative of e1m1/9

>>6421683
e3m1/9 not e1m1/9.

>>6421678
What is that thing anyway? Is it Build but with all the Build code gutted?

>>6421678
>le no chicken

>>6421687
It's eduke32 + nblood + other source ports based on eduke with graf's hardware rendering on top iirc

>>6421691
>with graf's hardware rendering on top
Recipe for disaster.

>>6421691
>All of the problems of build with all of the problems of gzdoom
Surely, what could go wrong?