/vr/ - Retro Games

>>6402201
Nostalgia

>>6402218
>Nostalgia
>Nostalgia
>Nostalgia
>Nostalgia
>Nostalgia
>*whistle*

>>6402230
try it and if you dont enjoy it then stop playing it you dont have to keep playing if you dont like it.

>>6402201
Even as a kid I liked R/B better. I played all through Yellow years late on emulator and also Crystal. I beat Yellow and was into it the whole time. With Crystal I slogged through it and after beating the E4 I haven't went back since.

I think part of a huge reason why I prefer the first games is because the region is better and in G/S/C you don't get to get too many good or cool new pokemon until after you beat the E4 or you get them through more obscure means which is BS. This is one reason I almost always wanted to catch Mareep and make him a part of my team. The game just doesn't have enough good new monsters to hold it up on. With the third gen games they wisely made it just about entirely new pokemon in a new region iirc and that is why those games at least at first were more engaging to play. G/S/C should have been all new monsters until you go to Kanto.

>>6402294
I think it's an age thing.

Most people played G/S/C as their first Pokemon game. If you played gen 2 before gen 1, then it makes sense why you would hail gen 2 as the best version. Gen 2 really isn't a huge upgrade to Gen 1, so for those who played Gen 1 first it doesn't hold the same weight.

>>6402306
>Most people played G/S/C as their first Pokemon game.

R/B/Y are still the highest selling Pokemon games so you are wrong about this. Most people's first was the first gen during the height of Pokemania. Generation 2 however did largely keep the momentum going but still ended up selling less. Generation 3 however did see a big drop compared to previous games.

>>6402306
>Gen 2 really isn't a huge upgrade to Gen 1
Oh that's bullshit

>>6402238
What incel wrote this?

>>6402306
Also I would argue that generation 2 did introduce the most changes to gameplay mechanics if we go by previous/next game. More so than any other generation. To me its region just wasn't as good nor was the way it distributed its Pokemon. Generation 2 pokemon actually are the left overs of what was originally going to be in the first games since the first games were intended to have over 151. BTW not completely shitting on Johto, I just liked Kanto much better.

>>6402238
>The inclusion of Kris, starting the trend of forcing a female player into the games
What the actual fuck, nobody is forcing you to pick the female character, lmao, get laid you fucking faggot

>>6402937
can we have sex

>>6402238
None of these are hardly the problem.

The problem with gen 2 is that the majority of new mons are SO well hidden you won't even SEE, as in fight either as random battle or against NPCs, most of them.

Just look at your pokédex once you beat the game, and I mean once you've done Mt Silver; there will be so many empty slots it's not even funny.

So many GOOD mons are under-used people don't even remember they were there; like Skarmory, and how everyone remembers it as being a gen3 mon.

As a result the game feels more like Kanto 2.0 than anything.

>>6402238
>most bland and forgettable designs
>right next to muthafucken Wobbuffet

>>6403018
>So many GOOD mons are under-used people don't even remember they were there; like Skarmory, and how everyone remembers it as being a gen3 mon.
Weird, I haven't played gen2 since a couple years after release, but Skarmory was one of the few I do distinctly remember having, mostly because I was an edgy STEEL kid and also it served as my Fly mule

>>6402238
So this what all /vp/ is like, right?

>>6403142

I suspect that image was made by one salty fan of the newer gens who was pissed off at people making comments in the vein of "gen 2 were the last good pokemon games, everything after was garbage".

Unfortunately a large portion of /vg/ are people who would do something like that, yes.

>>6403169
There's another version of the image that's gen1 themed as well. Though it could be made by a different autist

>>6403047
Imagine daying Johto has bland designs when you look at Hoenn or the rest of the series. What a bullshit list

>>6403142
No /vp/ is more like having an image exactly like that one for every single game.
The only game they can agree on is Explorers of Sky, apart from that it's just constant shitting on all the pokemon game.

>>6403176

Yeah, I've seen the gen 1 image as well, although at least that image makes more objective points because the generation 1 games were absolutely broken and janky messes by today's standards and there's really no need to hold up RBY as the only good generation when the generastion 3 remakes exist.

>>6402238
>letting player be a girl is a bad thing
Anon, shut the actual fuck up.
>but SJW shit
They're currently pissy that animal crossing HAS sex. Pokemon is inherently based for even asking if you're a boy or a girl, as if it even fucking mattered at all beyond "wouldn't it be nice for the player to be able to pick one more little thing"

Coming from someone whose first game was Pokemon Silver, I really think the only reason people look back fondly on GSC is the nostalgia.

Sure it expanded upon the mechanics of its predecesors pretty significantly, it has nice sprites and good music, but I really just don't get how anyone can find the actual plot of this game to be engaging outside of just revisiting sights they're familiar with or were told were good by other people.

It's never really challenging, the pokemon variety is pretty poor both in what you fight against and what you can obtain (specifically obtaining pokemon at points where you would realistically be able to use it on an adventure as part of the team: e.g. no one's using Houndour in their playthrough unless it's traded to them), there isn't really any story at all or a motivation to keep going outside of you the player wanting to beat a game you own.

Nothing wrong with liking or playing GSC mind you, I just think that on a pure gameplay perspective they aren't really that great.

>>6402327
It's true if you also played the post-game content through Pokemon Stadium, which fixed every single combat bug from gen 1. If you only had the cartridges(and if you're only talking about PVE content) by god it was as big of an upgrade as games got back then.

>>6403176
>>6403190
Basically every "problem with generation" imagine aside from the original Problem with Gen 1 is complete nitpicky inconsequential garbage made by people who honestly could either be so retarded they need help or just trolls that got me.

The gen 1 image is at least mostly comprised of actual technical and balance issues that can negatively affect even casual players, even if some points aren't actually that big a deal or even exploitable to add to the fun, but seriously some of those other images are just aggravating, and they get posted unironically usually too. That Gen 2 one is probably a troll but that ORAS image in particular is fucking nauseating to read and it's the one I usually see the most. And I hated ORAS so fucking hard that I sore off pokemon after playing it. If you're going to hate those games you need to hate them RIGHT.

>>6403232
but anon they FORCED th e CHOICE to be a boy or a girl

As a child, the feeling during the start of that first encounter with a Sentret, after so long waiting and anticipating and getting excited for HOLY SHIT NEW POKEMON ARE COMING, was quite literally orgasmic.

Loved Gen 2 then, never returned to it till recently. I get why. Monster selection and learn set are shit, they make the game a slog and somewhat promote playing the game wrong, starter only like many kids did back then. The game is mostly held up by kino atmosphere, but the game part of it needs a complete overhaul to frankly play better.

Gen 1 and even Gen 3 are much better games. Gen 1 has better monster selection and Gen 3 has better move sets. I also think progress in Hoenn and Kanto is better than Johto. I hate Hoenn, but I now understand why I've played it more than Johto. The game half of it is good, the monsters are just shit in terms of design.

pick one

>>6402201
Babies first JRPG

is there really any reason to play this with soul silver and heart gold?

>>6403526
Both are kino in their own ways.

>>6402201
To you.

>>6403526

If you have a sense of nostalgia for the older sprites and music I would argue that is still alegitimate reason to enjoy playing the originals over the remakes since you will personally have a greater sense of enjoyment thanks to the nostalgia enhancement.
I think "even though the remakes are upgrades in every way from teh originals, my nostalgia causes me to have a personally better experience with the originals" is a perfectly valid position to hold.

>>6403540
yeah I had og silver and yellow as a kid but I emulated soul silver and heart gold a few years back and felt it makes the original practically obsolete. I came really close to going out and getting a DS just for that until I realized the online apparently isn't supported anymore so there'd be little point

>>6403526
>GSC's spritework is still really nice to look at, and looking at sprites is 99% of a pokemon game. The Sprites had a distinct kind of style to them that the series kind of moved away from. The sprite work in HGSS is just generic old pokemon sprites.
>Most of HGSS's music remixes are pretty shit. For lack of a better way to describe it HGSS tries too hard to sound nostalgic and crams way more than it should into all its tracks. Route 29 is the biggest offender by far. God bless you if you actually think that sounds good compared to the original. The simpler GSC ost is best overall.
>The morning/day/night "lighting" is really atmospheric and the remakes completely fucked it up. GSC in general have bizarrely good morning and night colours for a fucking GBC game, when there are modern 3D games with day/night cycles that look like shit and night and mornings

But this is all just subjective opinions about the games' atmopshere pretty much. If you want to talk in pure casual gameplay turns then HGSS completely obsolete GSC.

question for any poke nerds out there

for pokemon that require being traded to evolve them, does the pokemon's stats increase immediately upon being traded and evolving, or do they not increase until the next time you level it up?

>>6403564
>realized the online apparently isn't supported anymore

There are actually private servers for gen 4 and 5 pokemon games now, there have been for a while. They even include mystery gift so you can still get all the long since discontinued event items and giveaways. Not too hard to connect to them either but it can be finicky depending on what DS model you're using.

>>6403576
damn I didn't know that... is it worth it? I do really love the game but I guess getting an actual copy of soul silver these days will cost as much as getting the system itself

emulating was completely fine aside from the inconvenience and having to use pokegear to hack the game if you want certain pokemon

>>6402201
It was basically an expansion of the first game, and took almost nothing away from it, very unlike any game in the series after it.

>>6403574
upon evolving

>>6403590
I wouldn't go out of your way to get a copy of the game just because there's private servers for them, no. It's not like there's a big community hiding there or anything. Random battles aren't really a thing and the GTS is mostly just people trying to trade for version exclusives, that's about it. The main draw to most people is just getting the mystery gift event stuff again.

Plus I'm not 100% certain but I think certain emulators are actually able to connect to the private servers for online too anyway.

>>6403018
I actually think that GSC is meant to be Kanto 2.0 in some way. I mean, back then Pikachu wasn't a Kanto pokemon and Tyranitar wasn't a Johto pokemon, they were just pokemon. They same way Johto and Kanto wasn't meant to be two different worlds, but rather the two regions that made up the Pokemon World. Later regions are obviously their own thing, since they aren't connected like Johto and Kanto. I agree that the gen 2 pokemon are very sparsely distributed but I think it adds to the idea that they just are rarer or newly discovered species in the pokemon world that are both found in Johto and Kanto.

>>6403176
people made several versions of that
Hoenn nostagiafagging? blam a variant was made
DS nostagiafagging? blam another one
somebody defending the 3D games? blam they're getting one

the only Pokemon games that haven't got one of these infographics yet i could think of is Orre, any remake, Sw/Sh (what's even the need, its fucking shit on sight), Ranger, and Mystery Dungeon games

The remaster of it is gorgeous and well done, but that's out of this board's coverage. I grew up with this, but the gameplay is piss easy and boring outside of the Miltank gym battle if you're literally caught off guard. Ton of content for the time, music is super fucking catchy and well done, game itself is kind of a slog. Nostalgia would be the only thing making it perfect

>>6403590
No, definitely not. The Pokéwalker was a HUGE part of the experience, and you're likely going to miss out on that because of probable rarity. Better to get Stadium 2 and a Transfer Pak for your G/S cartridge than go to all this trouble.

>>6403687
Ports, remakes, and remasters of pre-2000 games have always been retro. Blog away.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK_CnWKxxUs

>>6403690
If you emulate, I believe the newer versions of Mupen actually support adding the pokemon roms while playing stadium 2 as well, so that'd be an easy way

>>6403415
The learnset of the average Pokemon being complete garbage was the norm all the way until Gen fucking 5. A significant part of why the older Pokemon games were more challenging than the newer ones if you were playing them "properly" is that alone. Some people like this aspect though.

>>6403690

Yeah, this. I was fucking stiked when I was back home over christmas and decided to dig around my little brother's old room (because it used to be mine and a bunch of my shit is lost in teh mountain of trash he left behind when he went to uni. Found my pokewalker in amonst the mess and that's now added like £20 to the value of my copy of heart gold. Also found the box and wireless adaptor to my copy of fire red and both are in very good condition.

>>6403142
Yeah, they absolutely hate retro Pokemon games. Seething zoomers mad jelly that older guys got to experience the magic that was Pokemon when it was new.

>>6402201
I like gen 1 better but silver easily beats any of the new games, it's just a little too easy .

>>6403018
>The problem with gen 2 is that the majority of new mons are SO well hidden you won't even SEE, as in fight either as random battle or against NPCs, most of them.
>implying
This sounds like a personal problem. I explored the ever living shit out of every nook and cranny of that game trying to find as many new pokemon as I could. Worked out fine for me!

>>6402201
>>>/vp/

Anyone else think cyndaquil was out of place as a starter? In gen 1 they were all some sort of reptile or amphibian creature. In gen 2 its also almost like this except cyndaquil fucks it all up. Had it been a fire lizard with no wings or something along those lines it would have fit in better and the games would have complimented the first gen even more. To me its one of the first signs of problems with gen 2 in a subtle way most wouldn't see or notice.

>>6403696
That sounds pretty awesome and dream-fulfilling, anon. Thanks for the tip.

>>6404157
The beta leaks this year ans last year were really fun. It made me realize Celebi was based on Pelopeki a native american fertility god which is why it brings pokemon eggs from the future. Celebi was always my favourite legendary and it feels like I answered a mystery. Same for the beta unowns being based on jomon stuff (ancient ayylmaos) anywyas no one probably cares but me besides looking at qll the cool betw designs.

>>6403526
ds emulation is still shit

>>6402230
Nostalgia.

>>6404915
good thing DS hardware is dirtcheap

>>6403183
>it's just constant shitting on all the pokemon game.
Sounds like /v/ with games and this board with retro games.

>>6403735
Nah. Gen 1 was better. You had arguably better mons with better attacks. Not shit like Ghastly with only Lick and Nightshade or a fucking Bellsprout.

>>6402201
That's not crystal, you fake nigger

>>6404927
true

too bad the hinges in my lite broke and the dpad is garbage

>>6403018
Generally speaking, the Gen 2 Pokemon are in pretty reasonable places, given the design philosophy of GSC. The games were conceived of as "Pokemon 2", with the new Pokemon being hidden away to varying degrees. They were "new" in-universe, as opposed to future Gens where they're just supposed to be native to whatever region the games take place in.

Most of them can be found on ordinary Routes, and all but a few can be obtained early enough that you can use them on your team. Generally, I think this was a cool way to encourage exploration and make the new Pokemon seem special. The only thing that I think is retarded is the fact that the only Dark type Pokemon that you can obtain prior to what was basically the post-game are Umbreon and Sneasel if you're playing Crystal. Houndour, Murkrow, and Larvitar (and most likely Sneasel) were all hidden away behind the first end credits.

The real big problem with Gen 2 is the level curve, which is a serious drag. The difficulty curve is basically flat for the entire latter half of Johto, and then again for most of Kanto up until the last couple Gym Leaders. Then Red presents the opposite problem, skyrocketing in levels after an entire game where the player probably never had to use any sort of strategy.

Oh, and I wish the Rocket storyline didn't come to such an anti-climactic end. But I think that's partially a consequence of the shitty difficulty curve.

Dev team were told the level curve was shit by playtesters, but Masuda, being the massive tard he is, fought them. Same with Lugia not being Water.

>>6404138
Eternally seething

>walking around NYC
>come across man selling games
>"Pokémon Bronze"
>dad buys it since it was only like $3
>later that day try it out
>its this weird Japanese bootleg
>months later at a friend's family gathering
>tell younger kid that I have a special edition of Pokémon
>right before we leave I convince him to trade me his pokemon silver for it

Got 'em

>8th grade
>girl brings a GBC with Crystal on it to class
>ask her if I can play she says sure
>I turn the game on and do my best to keep it concealed so the teacher won't notice
>holy fuck the sprites move this is the best game I've ever played
>go over some grass and run into Suicune
>I'm too excited and say "omg"
>teacher walks over and takes the GBC and puts it in her locker
>"your parents will need to come get it if you want it back"
>dad says nope

Sorry Indian girl whose name I forgot.

>>6405923
Wouldn't it have been easier to tell your teacher the GBC owner was the girl? Anyway, it was her fault if she didn't tell her parents herself. You're still kinda weak, though.

>>6405806
>They were "new" in-universe, as opposed to future Gens where they're just supposed to be native to whatever region the games take place in.
That's not true at all.

>>6402238
Holy shit. The person who wrote this is wrong and a zoomer

>>6405945
There's an NPC that says that it was just discovered that Pikachu is an evolved form of Pichu, and Pokemon eggs was a newly discovered thing as well.

>>6402238
I love how /vr/ always get butthurt over these. It doesn't mean the games are bad, they're (mostly) facts.

>>6405958
/vr/ barely cares about most of these things because pokemon back in retro times wasn't taken as serously in terms of tournament play (even though they had reasons to be: all these nintendo events and tournaments where you could win a legit Mew being transferred into your cart).
Also many of these glitches (like the focus energy thing, etc) were fixed on Stadium, so there's that.

>>6405958
>Slots were removed in HGSS and were replaced with Voltrob Flip, a game relying purely on luck
Masterful.

GSC had the worst metagame. It was just tanks and stalling out the ass.

>>6405984
I'm pretty sure Voltorb Flip requires more skill than slot machines. Still, I would have rather had the Slot Machines like the Japanese version did.

>>6406028
I don't remember gens 1 and 2, but in gen 3 you could watch the 7s and get jackpots somewhat often.

>>6403214
Who the fuck is playing Pokemon for the plot ?

>>6405018
Crystal doesn't have wild Mareep, Girafarig, Remoraid, and several other Pokemon that were in Gold/Silver. Also the level design and appearance of a few locations is different, and people may prefer those old designs.

>>6406049
I'll give you remoraid, but everything is a non issue and can easily be remedied by not being a bitch.

>>6405958
Post the the problem of gen III, V and VI

>>6406152
They exist

>>6406152
Gen 3 is better than gen 2. Better pokemon, better map, better battles, better plot. Gen 4 is good, gen 5 I haven't played. They all suck compared to rby, though.

>>6406197
Gen 5 is better designed than all of those and it's they're the last great Pokemon games. XY was just mediocre, and the Ruby/Sap remakes suck because they left out the Battle Frontier from Emerald. Sun/Moon wasn't bad, and it had a comfy tropical setting. Gen 8 is the first Gen that's complete dogshit.

>>6405958
100% a troll image

>>6402201
>Pokemon has its own entire board
>yet is still allowed on /vr/
>but god forbid you discuss a 20 year old PS2 game

>>6406434
PS2/Xbox/Gamecube are retro now.

>>6406434
>yet is still allowed on /vr/
Only the retro (released on systems before the year 2000) games
>but god forbid you discuss a 20 year old PS2 game
Right, Ps2 is from the year 2000. Not too hard to understand.
>>6406460
For some people, PS4 is already kinda retro, the non Pro version.

>>6402306
Nah, gen 2 was a huge upgrade on gen 1.
>>6402238
lots of things wrong with this.
>it lists the shiny switch glitch twice (and it isnt even a gameplay-ruining glitch anyway
>Celebi was available, from Nintendo Power roadshow events (and cheats)
>most bland pokemon designs
I think gen 4 onwards have that covered
>Dark hardly ever used
Crunch was a must-have move for dealing with Will and with people still enamoured with Psychic type from gen 1.
>Evolutionary stone-evolved pokemon available from gen 1.

The legit criticisms of gen 2 are:
>Kurt special Pokeballs only 1 per day availability. And a couple dont work as stated, either.
>Monster distribution is poor, especially new 251 monsters.
>Kanto is downsized.
>The carts die after a few years because of the internal clock.

>>6402238
i should also add,
>probably the best music from Pokemon, except for gen 1. (and its probably on a par with gen 1 music anyway.)

>>6403214
I'm not sure if I can speak without bias. I grew up with Gen 1 in Gen 1 times and fully immersed in all its merchandise, media, and player society. Gen 2, at the very least, felt like a vacation or new game+ type of thing. It was magical, especially with all its new features. Also, GS had features that never came back in another gen until probably Gen 5, like date/time events and PokeGear and also features that never returned like second-region Kanto. Having Stadium 2 along with it really activated the magic!

>>6406890
yes, after playing gen 1, gen 2 was mind blowing.
>color graphics
>day and night
>infrared mystery gift
>male and female pokemon
>some evolution lines expanded upon:
Dunno about you, but the fact Onix, Slowbro, Seadra etc now evolved, absolutely BLEW my mind at the time
>two new types; one which totally nerfs overpowered Psychic
>shiny game cartridge
>move deleter
>travel back to Kanto:
gym leaders are improved
follow up on gary, ash
that epic final battle v Ash and his Lv 81 Pikachu
Cinnabar volcano erupted (i was legit upset at that)
>held items
>some battle glitches sorted out
>lots of new moves
>better battle animations
(gen 2 Psybeam animation possibly my favorite move animation in entire series)
>Really good soundtrack
all in all, 10/10 game. Best in the series. Unless you count remakes or if you count gen 1 as the definitive experience.

>>6402238
>most bland and forgettable designs
>picture of Wobbuffet
what did they mean by this?

>>6407138
Forced memes are forced.

>>6407004
Good post. A lot of those things I forgot about but amazed the fuck out of me as well, bro. Pleasant reminders. Remember all the rumors prior to this release? Obviously Pikablu, but I remember one website claiming there were going to be 3rd stage evolutions (permanent, not just megaevolution temporary junk) and that Ampharos was Persian's evolved form. I printed off the infopage featuring all this (as we did then) and showed it off to my fellow firstgraders. Same kind of thing happened a few months earlier with Pokemon The First Movie internet fan rumor pages (even though they only referred to it as "Mewtwo Strikes Back" then), speculating who all these characters in the movie were. I wish I could remember all these website names for the Wayback Machine. All I remember is (vaguely) "Jason's Pokemon Page" which had low-tech Pinsir-themed blackjack. Too good times.

>>6403526
Crystal's Pokemon animations are actual animations and not just two frames being tweened.

>>6405952
And to my memory, HG/SS changed those dialogues because FR/LG retconned eggs and the new types to have always existed.

>>6403526
Music is arguably better. I can't remember, but I think that some of the events are fundamentally changed between the originals and the remakes, too, such as the bug catching one in Goldenrod. Isn't the based Friday Lapras gone in the remakes, too? Either way, I love both of them to an extreme degree.

I played Heart Gold a while ago and it was fucking WELL HARD

I got to a gym on the Island, or near a beach, and the level gap was so severe I stopped playing

>>6407290
But the level curve is bad!

>>6403142
Nah, these lists are a /vp/ meme. There's a few really popular ones, particularly "the problem with gen I" and "the problem with ORAS". Those are actually really well-made and make a lot of sense. This one was either made ironically or by someone with a mental defect rendering them unable to see how shitty their list must be if they have to start off with such blatant nitpicking.

>>6407290
Imagine getting filtered by Chuck. There's a lot of things you can do after getting Surf actually since the game branches west and east from Ecruteak. Whitney is kinda hard since you really do need something to deal with her Miltank but by Chuck you should have a better team.

>>6402238
>muh Kris
>free choice of gender in RPGs is bad

Stopped reading there.

>>6407272
The friday Lapras is still there on the remakes, got my shiny there.

>>6402238
do you have all the generations infographics like that? I would like to lul some more

>>6407330
>the problem with ORAS
>actually really well-made and make a lot of sense.

>>6402238
>that first one
when the fuck does that ever actually occur?
this is nitpick shit

>>6402201
>Quite literally babby's first RPG
>Perfect

>>6408105
Ball in a cup is perfect, it's for children. What's your deal?

>>6402201
https://www.quotev.com/quiz/6376237/What-Nintendos-characters-you-are

>>6407351
agreed, one of the most retarded complaints.

>>6407272
Only thing HGSS removed was Kris (R.I.P. In pieace)

>>6402201
Godly Based. Fuck SwShit fags.

>>6402201
>>>/vp pokefag.

>>6409258
LOL, nice parody of the triggered anon who always goes in retro pokemon threads pretending they're forbidden here

>>6406460
Nothing after 1999 is retro.

>>6409383
So what exactly is Gen 6 then? Because it's pretty fucking old now.

>>6409526
Agreed. Wii U general, anyone? It's retro to me.

>>6409526
Lots of old shit isn't retro. Being old will never change the fundamental overarching design philosophies of retro vs modern vs postmodern gaming
it isn't retro like fashion, it's retro like retro games

>>6408343
everyone starts somewhere, don't act like you're an ancient sage

>>6402201
It's an open-world and portable, with a relatively low difficulty level.

>>6407004
And all of this without considering all the quality of life changes like using hms with an a press. It's also worthy to note that gen 2 is one of the best uses of a day and night and weekly cycle on a game period, there is so many little details and events that make the world feel alive, the later pokemon games did this but never to that extent

>20 year old sprites and palettes gameboy game
>still has one of the best looking day/night cycles of any game ever made

I shouldn't be looking at modded Skyrim videos and thinking "man the lighting in this sure isn't as atmospheric as morning time in GSC", I don't get it

>>6402238
>Easily the most bland and forgettable Pokemon designs
*laughs in gens 4, 6 and 8

The only thing I remember being truly terrible about these games was the process to catch those legendary dog Pokemon things. That shit was fucking cancer even by 1999 standards.

>>6402943
With Kris

>>6402306
The premise of this post is wrong in the first place, but I did in fact play Blue version first, and I'd still say Crystal is my favorite game. The Kyoto-like city really fleshed out the mythology and made the world feel "lived in." As a ten year old playing it, I was in awe. Even though I had already played Gold, Crystal still held me in rapt attention.

>>6403526
Pokemon Stadium 2

>>6405958
This really didn't need to be a looping gif.

>>6406492
>>6409542
>>6409545
>>6409545
Lmao Midnight Club 1? Smash Melee? Twisted Metal: Black? Dark Cloud? They're soooooooooo modern. They're so radically different from the games that were released literally 1 or 2 years before, it wouldn't make a shred of sense for them to be discussed on the same board as PS1 and N64 games. Nope, not at all. /s
Really nigga? Here you can talk about Twisted Metal Small Brawl but not fucking Twisted Metal Black which came out 5 months before because muh PS2 bogeymin? You can't discuss games literally released the same years as some of /vr/'s biggest names because "b-but the console came out after 99! BAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWW abloo bloo bloo bloo bloo!" Nah that shit's nigtarded and so are you if you think those games have more in common with the 360 and beyond than the Dreamcast (literally the same gen) and earlier. If the game's old enough to vote and watch porn, that's old as shit and this is coming from someone who grew up with SNES, PS1 and N64.

Any game released for PS1, N64, Dreamcast, Game Boy Color, and anything older than those consoles are fair game on this board. The game's year doesn't matter, just the console it's on.

>>6410679
based. Stadium destroys any argument remakefags might have.

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>>6410887
What is the consensus on Stadium?

>>6410908
PS2 is peak poke. Little cup is peak poke.

>>6411518
>PS2
Not retro.

Sorry I had to.

>>6402306
Gen 2 was mind blowingly futuristic when it came out.

>>6403281
This.

>>6403914
They will never know what they misses out on which is quite sad.

>>6404180
That also expla 9 nsnits name sounding like celibacy.

>>6405952
It was so exciting reading that as a kid.

>>6406434
Shut up dork.

>>6407258
Shut up zoomer.

>>6410553
Yes.

>>6410908
All-around great.
Great function with the GB games, with a LOT of QoL improvements on the inventory system for pokemon/item management, and also as a "pokemon bank" where you can store more pokemon than you can catch.
Great single-player that acts as a post-game for the GB games, with cups that are challenging and creative (it's not just about bringing your most OP level 100 pokemon, there's cups with rules about levels and even weight/height).
Also great way to battle against friends in VS mode, either with your own GB pokemon, or rentals.
The pokemon 3D models are still impressive to this day due to their animations and details.
And on top of all that, the cherry on the top, the 4-P multiplayer mini-games. Many people played Stadium games just for the mini-games.
IMO Stadium 1 and 2 are mandatory if you're playing Gen 1 and 2.

>>6403526
The music in HGSS tries too hard to be epic and edgy, while the GSC soundtrack is one of the best ones in the GBC

>>6411750
Thank god for GB sounds amirite?

>>6406434
t. Zoomer

But you don't get it until almost the end of the game

>>6411751
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