/vr/ - Retro Games

If anyone wants to make some sort of a new player pastebin with basics where to find stuff links and good advance for new players, that'd be cool.

>>6377728
This is pretty good for new players trying out 1.13
https://github.com/aimnas/1.13_starter_documentation

>>6377724
why does he call the commander "woodrow"

>>6377897
He calls you Woody as well. Probably related to one of SirTech's founders, Robert Woodhead.

Nobody playing any JA today? ;<

>>6378235
I'll be going by to my playthrough of JA2 in 2ish hours I'm guessing, just finishing up some other stuff first.

>>6378239
Alright mate. Look forward to it.

>>6378243
Any tips for boxing? My plans when I do resume are (in order):
1: Go blow my way into the San Mona gun shop with TNT and pray for some fucking interesting guns.
2: Do the boxing quest stuff I noted with my IMP merc hopefully.
3: Take over the town in the top left corner, since I assume that'll improve Bobby Ray's if nothing else.

>>6378259
>Go blow my way into the San Mona gun shop with TNT and pray for some fucking interesting guns.
Yeah worth a shot. Never know what you'll find with him. When you're playing it next, hit V and let us know your progress score. You can gauge what's available that way.
>Do the boxing quest stuff I noted with my IMP merc hopefully.
I've never actually worked much with melee characters so never done the boxing quest.
>Take over the town in the top left corner, since I assume that'll improve Bobby Ray's if nothing else.
Definitely. You'll get another mine too which is good.

>>6377724
the hordes?

>>6377910
> "Well, Woodrow, I seen me a lot of action, but nothing quite like this! You keep in touch with old Gus Tarballs, and take care of yourself for gods-sake. I'll miss you, Woody."

> tfw JA and Sirtech are dead you will never go on new adventures with ol' Tarballs again

The ending quotes in JA2 are great and give me all kinds of feels

>>6378313
>the hordes?
Sseth's next video is gonna be on Jagged Alliance 2, so the hordes of /v/ will be upon us in 2 or 3 weeks.

>>6378328
I feel nothing because I was a little snot when JA2 came out and never experienced JA1, and the only reason I got to play DOS games was because of buying tacky game zines that cut costs by selling abandonware.

>>6378335
So that's why the euro was asking all those gunlet questions about 1.13

>>6378328
>> tfw JA and Sirtech are dead you will never go on new adventures with ol' Tarballs again
Aye sad feels. Who knows, maybe that unfunny faggot Sseth will create a bit of interest it and we'll get some new mods or something. Never know..

>>6378348
>So that's why the euro was asking all those gunlet questions about 1.13
I am that Euro.

>>6378360
hey hey beeble

>>6377724
Well, after learning last time that Omerta can't actually have any militia stationed in it despite being the home of the rebel militia, (also I'm assuming San Mona is the same), I finally welcomed the arrival of Gasket to kept keep my shit repaired.

Turns out he's invisible and stuck somewhere, sure hope that's not permanent.

Also, Sseth didndu nuffin wrong.

>>6378475
Do you have 'Use Logical Body Types' on? If so, turn it off.

>>6378485
I didn't, just checked.

>>6378492
Hmm. I've had that once, but I could move the merc and when they started moving it fixed it. Maybe try re-loading the save. What build of 1.13 are you running? 8776 here.

>>6378496
Could also try moving him a sector on the map screen. Might unfuck itself.

>>6378497
>Could also try moving him a sector on the map screen. Might unfuck itself.
Yeah this is what I'm counting on, he's able to move just fine to another sector but I dunno yet for sure if that's fixed things as I've almost instantly run into yet another patrol that was wandering around. Give me strength.

I had the option of going another way, but that would have taken me into a second, even larger patrol.

>>6378507
Also I've had it twice now tell me to check my goggles, guessing they give a penalty in the dark (anyone?) but I've no room to unequip them.

>>6378513
Shift + N should take them off for you for your squad. Or try put them on your helmet like you would a gun attachment. You'll get penalties in the dark, yeah.

>>6378507
Holy shit this guy is a bullet sponge, I've hit him at least 7 times and he refuses to drop.

>>6378530
Honestly starting to get worried about this shit, I've had a lot of these messages and don't want my mercs to start killing each other.

>>6378530
>Place TNT 1 tile away from the wall
>About as effective as a wet fart
>Place next to the wall
>Demolish large section of the building and piss both of them off.

>>6378583
>ya twisted schnook
haha, love it

>>6378583
A second try at the "don't place it directly next to the wall" strat appears to have worked!

Let's hope all of this was worth it.

>>6378596
>0.0000001 seconds after I hit send
COME. ON.

>>6378603
Reloaded and tried again, seems to have "worked" this time but we'll see how long that lasts I guess.

Shame the selection is kinda shit, at least I can get some ammo, grenades, and sell off all my crap.

>>6378609
Those throwing knives could come in handy for sneaky missions

>>6378609
>>6378613
Already have 3 I'm too lazy to use.

Damnit, what's triggering this?

>>6378618
Forgot pic.

Only things I can think of are for me to leave the sector ASAP after blowing open the wall and hope he doesn't register later that it was me, or to punch Hans face in so I can step past him.

>>6378638
Try jumping up on the roof, blowing a hole in it, then jumping down. :3

>>6378648
Honestly thinking this plan ain't so great, chief.

>>6378657
How the fuck are you drinking in your sleep?

Current plan is just to rest up, blow the hole, do one big sell and then yeet myself out of this sector 0.01 nanoseconds later before they turn hostile. If he auto turns hostile when I come back, not much I can do about that I guess.

>>6378692
Is Gasket fixed now?

>>6378695
Other than the drinking problem, yeah. Not even sure where he's producing this stuff from.

>>6378692
There we go, everything sorted and I finally have more ammo for one of my two main guns. Was freaking out for a bit because dropping the ammo on the gun didn't give it more bullets and made the ammo vanish, but trying to shoot made it automatically reload from it. All good now.

Think I'll sit here and train for a minute while Gasket repairs. As I write this I realise I forgot to go do boxing, and forgot to buy some knuckle dusters, but at this point I think I'm too lazy to bother since I've only 75 str and no martial arts skill.

>>6378768
Nice one anon. If you examine the crate and then left click on it, you can split it out into magazines for your gun.

how much militia should you train in each town sector? say like the dressen mine sector?

>>6378768
>Just Gasket alone
Fuck, wouldn't have minded my main group.

>>6378787
All of them. Trust me. You want the full stacks and not just rookies. Diedranna isn't above dropping 80 troops onto one town sector, elites included.

Especially if you're playing on scifi mode.

>>6378259
marbles

>>6378530
This isn't even the worst mook in the game, there's one special encounter I don't remember around which area that I would spoil you but you'll know because of a special dialog between him and your mercs. Dude tanks 6 gorrillion bullets and lasers any of guys across 100 tiles.

>>6378802
Two shots, two kills. Fuck me I'd forgotten what it was like to have a good weapon.

>>6378828
Mike? They were discussing him a bunch in the last thread.

>>6378842
That was so ridiculously easy compared to how I've had to do it over the last few days.

Is the SKS worth a damn? That was the best find from that battle.

>>6378894
Yeah SKS with a scope is great early game. Chuck some HP bullets in there and you'll be murdering everything.

>>6378898
>with a scope
No luck on that. I started with an ACOG on day 1 but it doesn't fit on any of my guns, and there's not been any scopes drop or in store.

>>6378894
Took the first half of Chitzena, combat is so, so much more fun now that I've got some decent guns and can semi reliably hit headshots and kill in one hit.

Probably done for today, but really things are drastically looking up fun wise at least. I'll sit here and train militia then go take the other half of town tomorrow.

>>6379021
Great news. Glad you're enjoying it more anon. You seemed to be losing the will to live these past few days.

>>6379045
>You seemed to be losing the will to live these past few days.
Oh absolutely, there's only so many times you can spend 15 minutes reloading one turn in slightly different ways just to find an outcome where your bullet hits and theirs does not - then repeat that a dozen times in one fight. Feeling like you're accomplishing nothing over several hours is a good way to lose morale.

Now? Now I just need to know where they are, run up to them and pop their heads like overripe zits. I'm actually getting shit done for a change and hardly ever having to reload anything. Night time might be helping, I unintentionally have been doing night attacks recently so maybe that's been in my favour.

>>6379065
Marvellous. Look forward to your updates tomorrow.

>>6379092
How's Shadow as a merc? I hear he comes with permanent camo, but is a loner and ideally needs to run solo. Is he worth it? What equip support does he really need in order to function as intended?

>>6379092
He plays pretty nice in a team, so solo isn't strictly required. Is both a great shot and stealth merc for close-up knife kills, so works well with pretty much any way you want to play him. If I was using him, I'd have him as a scout and spotter for my better shot mercs sitting at the back (Lynx/Scope). I might just hire him after I take Alma actually...

>>6379065
in general, people advise using stealth and night attacks to push through the first few days when you're stuck with pistols and smgs that lack range

>ACOG 4x, ACOG Combo - versatile 4x scopes that can fit on almost all weapons except pistols, machine pistols and SMGs. ACOG combo combines sight with a Reflex Sight to allow reflex sighting on weapons with no fittings for Reflex Sights.
So, am I just unlucky and have only found guns that can't fit an ACOG so far, or am I fucking it up and simply don't know how to attach one correctly?
>Mini-14
>M14
>SKS
and one other I don't remember off the top of my head.

>>6379438
Disclaimer: I exclusively play 1.13, never even touched vanilla.
All the Russian weapons have their own specific scopes and don't take generic ones as far as I remember. The other weps you listed should take a 4x scope.
right click the gun in your inventory and hover on the empty boxes around the rifle. Put your scope into the one where it says something like "scope 4x".

>>6379438
i am pretty sure the mini 14 and the sks can't use an acog
i'm not sure about the m14, seems possible

>>6379438
>>6379676
yeah, the m14 can't use acog scopes
wrong rails i guess

>>6379438
mini-14's take acog scopes

>>6380284
Yours has 3 attachment slots mine does not, and I don't understand why.

>>6380404
are you playing 1.13?

>>6380404
>>6380440
It's because he's running a Reduced arsenal.

>>6380445
fuck, son

>>6380445
I assumed that would only cut down the number of gun types in the game, what nonsense is it that it also cuts down attachment slots for the ones that do remain?

>>6380449
Would explain why you've got shitty gun choices at Bobby's and Tony's too. Start again desu.

>>6380453
Well, it does say so in the readme.

>>6380461
Not seeing a "it makes your gun choices shittier" disclaimer or anything, desu. I thought it would simply drop me down from 14 versions of the AK47 to 5 versions so I'm not messing around with slightly diff guns / ammo types.

Fuck. I've played this file for practically a week and am too deep from training my IMP merc to realistically restart now. Could maybe, MAYBE justify it to myself with some moderate editing of the INI file to give IMP mercs like 200 more starting points to play with or something.

If, and I'm saying IF I did restart this shit, what starting settings should I pick that guarantee me good starting gun choices in Bobby Ray's (including Sniper Rifles and scopes etc) and the best options by the late game?

>>6380470
It says it right there. "and some scopes". You're playing it so autistically anyway, so what difference is another few ammo and gun types?
>what starting settings should I pick that guarantee me good starting gun choices in Bobby Ray's
To my knowledge, you can't without editing files. As your progress rating goes up, so does gun selection from vendors. You'd have to go into the XML and change the coolness rating (pic related) to a lower number. There's 50k lines in the Items.xml though, so you'd want to do a find and replace for all coolness ratings from 1 - 10 to 0.

>>6380470
To be fair if you start again you get the choice of not hiring stephen.

>>6380479
>It says it right there. "and some scopes".
The way I read it is "it lets me still play with some of the guns, and keeps the UB items / NVGs / and scopes."

>To my knowledge, you can't without editing files.
Bumping up Bobby Ray's quality in the starting settings to x3 or x5 or whatever wouldn't work?

>>6380480
I would absolutely hire Stephen again. No lessons have been learned there, I've always preferred a small elite team over a group of jobbers, if those are my choices.

>>6380486
His stats are great but he's dummy expensive for early game and he conflicts with Dimitri. Plus he's a jackboot for the kind of people who ruined Arulco. Plus he's a swede posing as a swiss.

>>6380484
Bumping up Bobby Ray's quality in the starting settings to x3 or x5 or whatever wouldn't work?
Ah yes, that would work, and still be tied to game progress, so it would seem more natural than just unlocking everything straight away.

>>6380493
>and he conflicts with Dimitri.
I kind of forgot I could even recruit him, and nobody reminded me on my return trip to Omerta. Fug. Does he have expert teaching? I was thinking of just recruiting Razor to start and help fill up gaps.

What AIM merc would work best as a spotter for a sniper?

>>6380498
Don't suppose you know the minimum x quality needed for "any sniper rifle" to appear as an option?

>>6380509
Dimitri has expert-throwing and demolitions, which means he doesn't need a gun if you give him a bunch of knives and grenades. He's also a decent mechanic and can be a good thief/lockbreaker if you train his DEX. Ira has expert teaching and trains militia pretty well. For MERC I take Rev and Beth early on until better mercs open up. Rev can train militia well and has funny dialogue, but I fire him when I run out of militia to train. Beth is a good medic/snitch and also is a hot lesbian.

>>6380470
i've never actually bothered playing long with the reduced arsenal, the variety of weapons is an interesting element that 1.13 handles quite well

>>6380514
Nah sorry. All the guns are by name, not type, so I'd have to search through every one of those, take down their coolness rating, then pick the lowest. Just whack the Quality rating up to the highest and play strictly. As in, force yourself not to outkit your mercs too early.

>>6380538
Actually, I do see a gun 'type' so it's possible. But yeah, it'd still take a while.

>>6380541
How about if you only checked the ColtCanada C7CT and Zastava M76? An anon in the last thread mentioned they were the first available sniper rifles.

I'd just set it to x3, but I'm worried that wouldn't be enough, and whatever is available I fully intend to buy considering I won't really know the difference.

>>6380525
Dimitri not sounding massively interesting, honestly. I'm hoping for one or two A.I.M mercs who are great at assault rifles or for spotting for my sniper IMP merc or something. I'll prob get Dimitri anyway but mostly just for training militia.

>>6380579
Checked - they both have a rating of 6. So, if you set it to x3, I think you'd have to progress only a little bit before they appear. Not too much though.
The calculation for all of this can be found here if you wanna work it out exactly;
http://ja2v113.pbworks.com/w/page/24219466/Bobby%20Ray

Also, be aware, the Quality rating affects enemies. They will also have access to these weapons, unless you turn down the item progression a bit.

>>6380604
>Also, be aware, the Quality rating affects enemies. They will also have access to these weapons, unless you turn down the item progression a bit.
Well fuck, I'm glad I got this warning at least. Is there any way I can bump up Bobby Ray's to 3x without buffing the enemies too? Is item progression an .ini option or something else?

>>6380621
Yup, lower the rating circled in red.

>>6380621
for getting ahead with weapons, you might look into getting buns or leech with a premium kit
it'll score you a pistol carbine which has better range and accuracy than the pistols you and the enemies will start with
nails can come with an fal, which is also a solid weapon
getting a true sniper rifle right away will cost more

>>6380646
>leech with a premium kit
I always give him the ol' M870 and find him a small quick-shooting pistol like the P7 as a backup
mercs with a shotgun and hunter/ranger are almost guaranteed 1 kill per turn

>>6380742
>M870
A shotgun? Are they only useful in buildings and close quarters, like pistols? I never find a use for them as Assualt Rifles and Rifles have better range and sometimes lower AP cost...

>>6378596
Why blow up the wall? Can't you just give the dyke her porn and get into the back the normal way?

>>6380746
Shotguns are great in the beginning.
They have better range/accuracy than pistols and cheap MPs/SMGs. For someone like Leech with high marksmanship and the hunter trait, a shotgun is basically like a sniper rifle.
For unarmored opponents, one shot to the chest will basically always kill them, or sometimes crit them but they'll lose all their breath and collapse soon anyway. If they have armor, the punch might not kill, might not even do physical damage, but will drop their breath almost completely.
Shotguns also have some neat special ammo like lock busters or flechettes which destroy armor.
You can also get choke attachments to further upgrade damage/range.

>>6380769
Good to know. Been thinking of a way to use these effectively. Thanks anon.

>>6380769
Do you ever use shottys or pistols mid to late game for any reason? Except say, busting locks...

>>6380776
Not him but they're ok for the more enclosed parts of meduna. CAWS with attachments can still do a lot of damage. They're still outclassed by assault rifles for the most part. Plus you get better breaching options down the line. I never use pistols by late game, just because by that point you can probably pick up a good MP and MP holster as a sidearm with full auto/burst.

>>6380780
Amendment: I actually do use one pistol, FN Five-Seven is really fucking good.

>>6380782
One of my favourite pistols! What do you use it for? In building close quarter stuff? What ammo types do you load it with?

How are you supposed to play this game without savescumming?

>>6380793
be more tactical and less autistic about taking damage.

>>6380793
like an RPG, i.e. deal with consequences

>>6380793
You can but it's actually faster to play carefully. It's a weird logic to learn but when you start getting interrupts and stop getting interrupted it rules.

>>6380791
>>6380782
Not the same anon but always use AET ammo when available for handguns, they have the benefits of both HP and AP without any of the downsides besides weapons degrading faster.
For pistols besides the Five-Seven I almost always get a Beretta 93R because I love how that gun looks and burst fire is great in close quarters (which is where you should use handguns anyway).

>>6380815
Great to know, thank you. I love the look of the pistols and always want to use them, but never due to the lack of range. I'll try use them going forward. Fucking love the 92FS and some of the revolvers.

Anyone tried the AIMNAS mod at any point? The bigmaps look excellent. Really hope it's finished soon, would love to play through it.

>>6380635
Just to double check with everyone, would these starting options work well? Any visible problems that would fuck me over?
.ini options I've fucked with
>IMP merc can have a fuckton more skill points
(Fuck spending another 12 hours grinding it back up, I need to chop off time somewhere. Only having one of them though.)
>all counterattacks are disabled because fuck that noise
>MERC available from the start
>Bobby Ray's is now perfectly reliable and I don't have to worry about shit going missing.
Basically QOL stuff to keep me sane, because this is my final restart and if anything is still fucked up after this I'm going to fucking kill myself and then permanently shelve JA2.


>>6380769
Shotguns sound kinda cool, is Leech the best shotgunner? I've never tried using one.

>>6380756
Went to San Mona early and did that, but I glitched it out because now he won't move at all. Just another reason why I'm strongly considering this restart.

>>6380793
Using the environment to penalize enemy CtH is one thing. Another is basic common sense, you can't throw your epic 3 man squad at a whole town in broad daylight, you'll be circled and suppressed fast. Night ops or relying on numbers in open skirmishes are the way to go.

>>6380887
There's also an option to make Bobby deliver quicker and also check that AGGRESSIVE_STRATEGIC_AI = 0. Another QOL thing is
WHICH_MINE_SHUTS_DOWN = 0.
SELL_ITEMS_PRICE_MODIFIER = 1 will make items sold at the sector screen a bit nicer
ALLOW_TACTICAL_MILITIA_COMMAND = TRUE allows you to move your militia about like you would a squad. That's quite nice for placing them at SAM sites to hold.
Enemies drop all should be on.

I'll have a think if there's any more that might help you.

>>6380898
MILITIA_DROP_EQUIPMENT = 1 is handy for more items.

>>6380898
>1st one
Already did.
>2nd one
Already mentioned I disabled counterattacks, not just in Drassen.
>3rd one
Mines can shut down? Okay very good call.
>4th one
I set it to 2, didn't want to trivialize the game.
>5th one
From what I've observed I'm completely okay as it is. If militia die they die, I can't be arsed controlling them all myself.
>6th
You sure? I was worried that'd be overkill.

>>6380908
>From what I've observed I'm completely okay as it is. If militia die they die, I can't be arsed controlling them all myself.
You don't. I mean moving them about on the map screen. They'll still fight on their own.
>You sure? I was worried that'd be overkill.
It's up to you. That's the beauty of this game. You can configure it how you want. I've got these settings on as well as more money from mines. It's playing out like an 80's action movie and I fucking love it. Having the most fun I've ever had with JA2.

>Drop all items
but it's so much more fun and rewarding to just beat them up and steal stuff off them while they're still breathing

you can make an IMP specialized in stealing stuff
>hand to hand
>athletics
>ambidextrous
>some background that adds bonus to stealing items (thief or convict or something?)
>max out dex, agi and str
>if needed, drop med/mec/exp and increase starting level (3 should be good)

short on cash? you can 'skin' dead enemies from their clothes with a knife (any, including an exacto knife or a utility knife)

>>6380887
Well, here's my starting IMP merc. I fucked up the settings and was supposed to have enough for every skill to 100, but oh well. This will be the only one I hire.

>>6381275
You know, I keep forgetting to do that.

>>6381331
This is a fucking terrible idea and I don't even care. I need to get my fucking ass down to Drassen mine and start making money fast.

>>6381359
>Wolf
Good choice anon. He's a great all round merc. Hope you enjoy this playthrough more. I think you will.

>>6381369
>Good choice anon. He's a great all round merc.
Yyyyeah... about that... I kinda only bought him for his equipment. Once I've taken his stuff I'm marching him West into the wilderness and never looking back.

>>6381359
you made your imp level 8? jesus why dont you just punch some cheat codes while you are at it.

here's an idea: instead of restarting a million times and being autistic about your ini setup, play 1.12 or 1.13 on vanilla settings, tons of guns, old CTH and learn how to play the game properly. THEN, go back and fiddle with settings, of which impact you will now know.

>>6381359
The starting zone was 3 bullets and a knife, makes a nice change. On to Drassen, fast as possible.

Gonna need to recruit a mechanic and fast, my highest Mechanic skill is 12 thanks to the fucking up of the IMP skills. Honestly I intend to give Gasket a miss this time and get Trevor Colby instead once I have a little money in my account as Gasket was annoying and Trevor seems like he's more than just a one trick pony.

>>6381449
>you made your imp level 8? jesus why dont you just punch some cheat codes while you are at it.
My previous IMP merc was at level 7 and about 90% of the way to 8, this is just the continuation of them only without having to spend twelve hours of my life training them back up. Did it once, could do it again, but I don't have 12 hours to waste since I have to get back to where I was.

>>6381459
i'm dying laughing here

>>6381467
Why?

>>6381474
because lvl 7 is like an endgame destroyer. exp lvl amplified pretty much every stat/function in the game, and is the primary driver for getting interrupts and initiative. the fact that you start with such an op character and need to restart constantly shows you have no clue how to play the game

>>6381489
Okay, I messed up my initial settings (first time playing 1.13) and only found out one and a half towns into the game but after a lot of IMP merc training had already happened. Was encouraged to restart.

So what?

some time after >>6376641

knife's getting dull fast from all this stabbing and moving bodies (pic is like only 1/3 of them in this sector)

>>6381474
>>6381502
I beat JA2 when I was like 10 years old. Try to do better.

>>6381502
Bro your merc has all the stats in the 100s. Maybe you really should have played vanilla with that kind of approach.

>>6381508
I'm the sort of guy who has fun grinding JRPGs early on and getting maxed out in disc 1, just as I'm sure you're the sort of guy who has fun playing games alone.

Not out of personal desire, but because I strongly get the feeling you have never kept any friends in your life.

>>6381508
Me too and I did it like a pro.

I let all of my mercs practice and practiced forever until thousands of days passed. Then I realized all the AIM mercs level up too, except faster so their stats ended up being in the high 90s and hundreds.

>>6381509
My first merc was well on their way to everything in the 100s too, I enjoy stat grinding and stuff like that. Gonna be stuck with 0 Mechanical this time though but I guess you can't have everything.

>>6381451
Yeah Trevor will do you well.

>>6381521
>My first merc was well on their way to everything in the 100s
hahahahahahah no he wasn't.

>>6381521
>Gonna be stuck with 0 Mechanical this time though
you can still train it

>>6381528
Sure she was, had gained over 150 points or so since the start and the rest was only a matter of time. I'm honestly kind of amazed that this is so important to you, is your life truly this empty?

>>6381538
0 means you're too goddamn dumb to ever touch a screwdriver. you can't learn

>>6381542
Bro I know this game. You were nowhere close to 100s. You probably still don't know how to train Dex or Agi at all. Not to mention how hard the other skills are.

Does this game just run a bit slow on the tactical screen when there's enemy present but you're not actively engaged in combat with them? Is this just how it is? I wanted to try to fix it so I got Stracciatella and it didn't help, tried to fix it with the wine dlls and nothing happened, and changed the compatibility and got nothing. I haven't tried 1.13 yet because I was going to play vanilla first as this is my first time. You just move a touch slow like you're in water and only in that one situation.

>>6381551
>Trained Agility from 40 to 95 and left it there to train other stuff since I could get it naturally
>"I bet you don't know how to train it at all!"
Is this very low tier bait? Again, why is this so important to you?

>>6381379
you should let his contract expire and then hire him back when you have money, then

>>6381516
>I'm the sort of guy who has fun grinding JRPGs
Well that says everything, doesn't it.

>>6381559
Nah, shouldn't get any slowdown at any point. Something's not set right.

>>6381560
I'm not the guy who initially insulted you. I'm just telling you how hard it is to get it to 100s. You couldn't do it without a good week of running the game in the background, and even then it's likely so slow it would slow to a crawl at like 97. So, yeah, cranking it up to a 100 straight up is not very realistic. It would take you a month without a method like knife-throwing.

>>6381546
that restriction is gone in 1.13

>>6381570
I was averaging 2 or 3 minutes per point of Agility in the 90s with the method I was using, let's pretend that 95 to 100 would take 10x longer: that would still be a maximum of two and a half hours.

Does it even matter? Is some guy on the internet causing you pain here?

>>6381607
>I was averaging 2 or 3 minutes per point of Agility in the 90s with the method I was using
What's the method? You still wouldn't do it for the other skills, though.

>>6381618
>What's the method?
Stand behind an enemy that doesn't see me and is distracted permanently by something else, then do laps directly behind his back.

>You still wouldn't do it for the other skills, though.
Other skills have other methods. Let's pretend for a second that I would never have gotten to 100 in every skill and only stopped at 95 or something: Does it even matter how some anon in the internet chooses to play his game? If yes, why?

>>6381646
Just ignore them anon. Play how you want. Fuck em.

>>6381570
He has his mercs at completely OP experience levels.

>>6381646
Bruh where's the enemy

>>6381646
Nevermind, you're legit. didn't expect anyone else to know how to exploit this desu.

>>6381709
oh fuck off.

>>6381451
Took over Drassen airport about an hour ago but due to idiots and me being distracted by Bobby's much improved inventory, I've only just gotten to the point of continuing. Onwards and upwards.

>>6380769
Any particular choke you would recommend for a SPAS-12?

>>6381702
Look for the dark shadow right next to my merc. Hint: the colours are their sight radius.

>>6381715
Why are you telling me to fuck off?

>>6381721
Because you're an arrogant cunt.
>didn't expect anyone else to know how to exploit this desu.
Why didn't you expect anyone else to know this? Is it such a secret, or something only pros like you know? Get absolutely fucked.

>>6381734
Because it's not as simple as just picking any enemy, but finding one who doesn't move and then figuring out it won't do anything if you shoot.

Unless it works with any enemy, but I don't believe so.

>>6381716
The middle of Drassen's taking a bit longer, mostly because they got reinforcements in the middle of the fight and now they're trying to swarm me.

>>6381756
Yellowshirts. Lovely target practice :3

>>6381756
>>6381757
>Bullet hits the first guy, passes through him and hits a second guy for 11 damage
Always based when it happens.

>>6381765
Your merc looks so cringe. Why did you have to crank it up to the maximum?

>>6381765
Second area down, hoping to get the mine area done too before I log off for the night.

>>6381771
Please refer to this post so we don't have this same conversation yet again:
>>6380887

>>6381813
I'm going to be painfully honest with you, you are a narcissist. Your mommy gave you too much attention as a child, coddled you. That's why you're suffering from such a lack of self-awareness, anonymous online imageboards and all aside, still doesn't change how much of a touchy snowflake you are, and how you single-handedly turned this thread into a one-man show where you just post screenshots of your let's play.

Bud, eat shit. Because you must be pretty insufferable as a person.

>>6381839
lmao cope.

>>6381565
I wonder what it is, it's not unplayable or anything, just a bit slow during those parts. It runs fine any other time.

>>6381874
You've definitely tried Compatibility for Windows XP Service Pack 3, and running as Admin? Overriding high DPI settings as Application? Perhaps try dgVoodoo wrapper with pic related settings.

>>6381890
roger on the first three, I guess I'll try the dgVoodoo wrapper with those settings, thanks

>>6381813
Finished the fight, only difficulty was all the directions to watch between buildings + one guy on the roof.

Looted the mine and talked to the foreman, realised I forgot to do the sweatshop kids quest earlier. Now I just need a ton of money to pay Shadow with, fucker's expensive.

>>6381839
Seethe harder.

>>6381916
>going through all this shit just to cheat instead of just playing the original game on easy
You're clearly too autistic to bear with this mod. Why not start over with the basic game so you're not put into situations that overwhelm and trigger your I-must-grind / cheat tick?

>>6381916
Don't forget about the food deliveries anon. Some good progress for the first day. Where's Wolf got to?

>>6381948
>Don't forget about the food deliveries anon.
Don't worry I remembered that one at least.

>Where's Wolf got to?
Sector A7 and most of the way to sector A6. Shadow is making the A-team so speedy that Wolf has hardly made it even 1/3 of the way to his destination.

this thread is worse than the 1.12/1.13 slapfights from years back

>>6382007
Yeah, shame about the 2 or 3 guys who went full fun police backseater mode and shat the place up.

It's nice that the M14 is such a great weapon in Jagged Alliance 2. It tends to get overlooked or overshadowed in many other games.

>>6382283
The M14 is an awful gun IRL.

>>6382296
Not really.

For me? It's Buzz.
>accurate
>wise
>relatively cheap
>hot
>doesn't even need medical insurance

>>6383638
heavy weapons as well, extremely useful for meduna

>>6382050
>>6382007
>one autistic snowflake thinks everyone needs a continuous feed of his super special playthrough
>immediately gets ass-sore when someone points out his cheated stats
>straight up lies about stats being "just time" when some like leadership require so much clicking you'd get hand damage
Threads get fucked when only child mama boys turn them into a personal sandbox. Get a twitter account and link it here, ya loser.

>>6383691
Right, also psycho+auto weapons specialist, what a combo.

>>6383713
I think the only one who's bothered about the guy posting his gameplay is you, faggot. It's keeping the thread alive, so what's the problem?

Thoughts on unfinished business and wildfire?

>>6383713
You are why JA2 threads never live long here, because you autistically screech at people if they don't follow your rules in them.

>>6383750
unfinished business is good fun if treated like an expansion pack. the logistics/management aspect of JA2 is pretty much gone but the maps are good fun and a challenge.

wildfire, just no. theres other free fan made campaigns which are much, much better.

>>6383746
>>6383756
Don't need a thread where only one autist does his boring pasting shtick or autist defenders fixate on getting the last word in. Get fucked.

>>6383805
You are completely free to go make your own thread Mort, and watch it die in half a dozen posts.

>>6383793
Thanks, do you have to transfer saves from ja2 to UB or can just start right away?

I don't like the person's playthrough, especially with all the stat grinding and cheating and restarting
but I don't mind someone's playthrough driving a thread

In fact, it would be much better overall if more threads were more blogpost-like and not generals or just meta discussions

>>6383837
This. if you want to drive the thread with your SICK lets play, learn how to play instead of showing off your flashy retard-tier stat enhancing. the least you can do is play straciatella on easy so your shit doesn't look cringe if you're that godawful at the game.

>>6383848
Honestly I finished the game without figuring out what is the intended way to play it. During a day you're outnumbered and outgunned, while weapon range is a single most important stat. And during a night enemies throw flares right under your mercs feet and obliterate them.

>>6383835
you dont need to transfer

>>6383852
That's fine, and not the same as flanting multiple screenshots of your playthrough to people who actually know how to play. And then the guy gets called out for being a cheating retard only to have a spergout and play the victim card. Doesn't get any more pathetic.

>>6381916
>Come back
>See more fighting from the one guy who's determined to shit the place up
Oh well.

Think I'll see about taking out the nearby SAM site and working on money, train militia, pay shadow, pass through San Mona and finally get back to where I was in Chitzena.

>>6383837
Honestly I've done half a dozen or so playthroughs here or on /vg/ before and the biggest complaint I've had before this one thread was one guy who said he found it boring but didn't comment again. This has been a completely unexpected, but then again I've never restarted with another game / had starting settings to mess up. I hate having to restart, but someone / multiple people were saying it was my best bet and if I was to do it then it needed to be early.

I do have the option of simply remaking the old IMP merc once I get back to the first area of Chitzena and that's what I originally had planned, though I really don't see how one character is a big deal and certainly not the end of the world that this one tool seems to be making it out to be. Probably won't now though, people like that make me defiant.

>>6384123
Congrats, you hit the nail on the head, you are boring and incompetent. Nobody else is going to tell you more because you adapted to sporting your good boy persona and people don't bother to call you out. No one calls out trash youtube randoms with 3 views and nasally voice for the same reason, out of sight, out of mind.

>>6384123
Shotguns are pretty based, ngl. Never tried them as I assumed the range would be like in 99% of other games. Thanks to that one anon I guess.

>>6384194
For every one person I've had say it was boring, I've had dozens asking me for more over the years. Out of sight, out of mind? Try taking your own advice.

>>6384206
>dozens asking me for more over the years
This isn't discord or a cancerous /vg/ general with retarded zoomers, faggot.

>>6384216
You are not forced to stay here.

>>6384206
Got the pilot back but haven't taken out the SAM just yet, hoping my order from Bobbys will come before I set off for that.

>>6384316
Shame these are way too expensive to consider, about to have 20 guys dogpile on my location.

no problem about the cost bro just go here so you dont have to restart and configure the ini for more cash

https://www.gamespot.com/games/jagged-alliance-2/cheats/

great job keep up the awesome LP im learning a ton from your pro play.

>manage to infiltrate enemy compound and stealthily punch to death several enemies without raising an alarm or even their suspicion
>also steal their guns, mostly L2A3, PPSh and Stetchkin APS
>enemies heard my footsteps on a roof
>two climb up from the far side but luckily i spot them before they spot me
>go prone, ready weapon, enable turn mode (using real time sneaking so until my merc is spotted, it's not using turns/APs yet)
>attempt a steady max aimed 2-round burst at first enemy
>forgot about psycho trait
>blasts like 20 rounds at both of them
>both ded, also level up
everything went better than expected

last 2 enemies called in reinforcements after hearing those shots
Since Ira has the scouting trait, I knew 10 units would come from east, so I'm going to blast them while they don't have APs to move or interrupt yet

>>6384393
>Come to thread filled with thing you hate
>Act shocked when it contains thing you hate
Actual retard.

>>6384441
Let the thread autosage, bud. You killed it. Congrats.

>>6384421
>Leech got suppressed by MP fire
>Ira runs to help and throws a break light to reveal the enemy
>break light hits tree and lights up Leech and self instead
that's when you move your mercs out of the sector and re-enter a few turns later

>>6384482
Oof, tough luck. You'd better restart your playthrough, it's the only way I'm afraid.

>>6378335
Ugh!

>>6384351
22 enemies, going to take a hot minute.

>>6384470
>>6384486
The thread isn't dead because I am the thread, I am curious why you're trying to kill it though.

>>6384486
thanks for all the bumps

>>6384514
>The thread isn't dead because I am the thread
My fucking sides. It's alive! It achieved self-awareness.

now that i've autistically sorted all the guns and ammo i have available, i can decide which guns to keep and which to use as spare parts (in recent versions of 1.13 you can merge guns to instantly repair one to 90% while trashing the other to like 20-30%)

>>6384486
don't @ me with your toxic sarcasm

>>6384524
It's a thread I made, because people wanted me to continue posting picture from my playthrough. Why not make a thread that you want?

You're here despite hating it and despite claiming "out of sight, out of mind" earlier. Do you go to every let's player with 3 views and berate them too?

>>6384541
You clearly don't belong here and are likely a discord tranny. God, you're such a fucking sore thumb sticking out. Cringe.

>>6384558
shut the fuck up
>>6384538
some good loot there anon. can you scope all of your merc's guns now?

How do the dart guns work?

>>6384523
Oh, I'm not the e-thug heckling the guy, just a spectator having a laugh. Truthfully the screenshots are giving a motivation to play through the game again, it's just unfortunate the anon was pushed to restart so many times. Thoughts and prayers go to you m8, keep on truckin.

That said, the level 8 + 100s in all stats is perhaps not how I would've handled the situation but to each their own. If you can still derive a challenge and enjoyment from the game that's what matters, right?

>>6384649
% chance for the dude to lose all stamina basically. Can't remember if that same turn or the next, prolly the next. They're pretty crap actually.

>>6384514
They just keep coming...

>>6384670
>That said, the level 8 + 100s in all stats is perhaps not how I would've handled the situation but to each their own.
I was genuinely torn between recreating my original merc as closely as possible and just doing what I eventually went for, the tiebreaker for me was that these restarts have killed JA2 a bit for me and if those stats would get me back where I was faster and I'd have to put up with less crap, then so be it.

Really I'm not finding it making a difference over the old merc outside of being able to carry more shit, there's just not an appreciable difference between level 7 with 93 marskmanship and this.

>If you can still derive a challenge and enjoyment from the game that's what matters, right?
Thanks, glad to see another face that gets it.

remaining trashed guns after merging them with others
everything else I can carry with me
Bull is carrying an 17 kilos just in ammo boxes

>>6384689
Okay, opinions wanted for this turn.

I'm trying to find a future where the enemy doesn't shoot Ira and Shadow, and then the fucktard in the red circle doesn't shoot another militia in the head.

This is the first one I've found so far, where not only does the militia not die but they actually kill an enemy private.

Do I stick with this, or do I keep trying in the hopes of something better?

>>6384732
how many enemies are left in the sector, and do you have enough medical supplies to heal afterwards?
if you think you can handle this outcome, you out to keep it

>>6384751
5 enemies left (after that one died) and I've at least 4 medkits, maybe 6.

I should probably stop being pedantic about not taking any damage, yeah.

>>6384732
Okay, what the fucksicle is this? There's some real shonky business going on here because I cannot kill these two guards in any way shape or form.

99% to hit heavy throwing knives to their heads or their torsos? Miss / does nothing.
Try to stab him in the face? It whiffs.
Try to shoot them with 100 Marksmanship? Can't even graze them.

Sure it's theoretically possible that I'm just hitting that 1% chance every time, but I find that unlikely.

>>6384794
lighting, probably

>>6384794
Personally, I'd restart with 6 IMPS on level 9, 100 on all stats. Level 8 seems a little low. Just to even the odds a bit.

>>6384794
Got there in the end, Razor's earning his keep way more than his stats and price tag would suggest.

I think the militia guy in the top left got a promotion, neat but I wish that'd been to veteran. Gonna clean up, strip these guys of their clothes, then leave it until tomorrow here.

>>6384835
Jesus, that's a lot of stuff. Anyone spot anything other than the extended ears that's worth keeping?

>>6384858
hang on to a few holsters and lbe gear, i assume the sten and mpl attachments are flash hiders
keep a few 9x19 smgs, i think the sig has the most range
the night vison goggles might be handy

I guess I could make a non-cheat-playthrough-blog JA2 thread if there's enough interest in actually discussing the game.
This one is kinda fucking gay.

>>6384895
Someone doing an Ironman run on any difficulty would be fun to follow. Even on Novice it’s an accomplishment. It’s nice to finally have JA threads but this guy’s playthrough is atrocious to most people who have been playing the game 10-20 years.

>>6384919
>but this guy’s playthrough is atrocious to most people who have been playing the game 10-20 years.
Be the change you want to see.

>>6384895
go ahead

20 enemies with additional 14 as reinforcements
holding on so far
soft iron man btw (can't save in turn mode)

9 enemies remaining, including 4 unconscious and dying

last enemy, he's obviously panicking
tried to flank him but he spotted me
he sprayed like 20 bullets at Hector but everything hit the poor civilian

>>6385401
damn shame
do you lose some town loyalty for that?

>>6385405
don't think so

didn't want to risk more injuries so i just waited until the fag bled out on his own

also, since her 1 day + 1 more day contract was up, Fox fucked off as soon as the battle ended
with this game I think I'll be rotating mercs more than extending them

>>6385434
which mod adds those new towns?

>>6385435
Arulco Revisited

>>6385440
looks pretty neat, guess i'll have to check it out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JizpHs97eQs

>>6384935
great use of a gandhi quote

epilogue of >>6385434
>Fox leaves, select to drop all items at current location (D13) rather than airport (B13)
>items not actually dropped anywhere
the fucking gold digger robbed me
my last save pre-departure was a quicksave before the big battle
I'll miss that stuff... could have really used that extra back pack

>>6387941
i tend to unequip mercs when the contract is about to end out of paranoia, guess i'll be sticking to that in the near future

Mike did nothing wrong.

>>6384858
>>6384883
Sold most of it, the attachments were just folding stocks I wasn't able to remove. Ordered a bunch of ammo, had the choice of cold loading ammo now but gave it a miss as I can't look at the stats on the website to see if it's worth it.

Gonna need to take the mine back, some random pack of scouting enemies is trying their luck.

>>6389725
>Killing one or two guys per turn with hardly a struggle
Man, Razor is deceptively good and absurdly cheap. Glad you guys talked about him.

>>6389757
Now that's odd, taken back Drassen Mine but my daily income is still stuck at 0. Not sure what I've fucked up here.

>>6389797
Alright finally solved the problem of being unable to train militia: turns out if you were training militia somewhere else in town and left it half done and then try to train in another part, you can't progress until you return and do the old one first.

Time for that bloody SAM site.

>>6389797
talk to the mine overseer again

>>6390018
Took a random potshot at a guard 30 tiles away and killed him.

With a fucking shotgun.

>>6390047
Razor carrying again. Looking for a good gun suggestion for Ira and eventually Dimitri, she's still using the same .38 special she started with.

Also, anyone know what the point of the other 3 options you get when stabbing a dead body are? For decapitate / gut / move body.

>>6390124
damn near literally anything that isn't a .38 is an improvement, obviously at some point you'll want more range, accuracy and damage
gut is for certain non-human adversaries that might show up, move body is used in certain stealth circumstances
decapitate is for bounties

>>6390124
>>6390286
>damn near literally anything that isn't a .38 is an improvement
Ye, but is there anything I could probably buy from Bobby Ray's that'd likely be a significant improvement for her over most stuff? Something that would last her to the late game pretty happily.

Another 20 enemies attacking the mine and donating their equipment, I think it's high time I used all this to pay for that mechanic I wanted, though the path to Drassen probably isn't safe.

Think that's it for today.

>>6390124
>decapitate
there's a quest for terrorists. you need to bring their head to a bounty hunter dude
>gut
doesn't work on humans. works on bloodcats, you get pelts/claws/teeth that you can later sell
>move body
mostly important for covert ops/spies. if they're spotted near a dead body, their cover might be blown. you can move bodies away to make the area safe
or you can just clean up the town from corpses. you can move them somewhere away from roads so your mercs don't see them later rotting and get a morale drop.
you can also move all bodies to one place and blow them up with explosives

>>6390326
>mercs don't see them later rotting and get a morale drop.
I never knew that. Thanks
There are a lot of morale effects in this game, some not obvious.

>>6390326
>>6390384
damn, the rotting corpses lower morale?
was that in the base game or was that a 1.13 addition?

>the hordes
Yes, his peddling can bring in a fuckton of stupid /v/edditors but amongst them there'll always be actual good players willing to learn and discuss the game who wouldnt have even known it existed otherwise.
This thread has 17 posters currently

>>6377724
I actually preferred 1 and Deadly Games more. They had a nice simplicity and “soul” to them, that I didn’t really get with 2 for some reason.

Really wish somebody would do a proper, quality reboot like modern XCOM.

>>6383736
I know she's competent and cute, and she's really something in the sheets, but you really shouldn't. Bitch be crazy, man.

>>6390803
the concern with people parroting an eceleb is that of he says "always play with these mods", you'll likely be seeing threads focused on those mods for a while
possibly, his take on 1.13 will make at least a few anons quite upset

>>6384649
>>6384671
They don't penetrate armor very well, so it's actually pretty great against police/kingpin/hicks, but they fall off by the time you're taking on just elites. Really only good for knocking off early game sentries on night missions, but you're better off if you move someone in to kill them anyway with a knife. I never really got a lot of use out of them. Might as well just sell it off when you run out of darts.
>>6383224
The most maligned of all American service rifles across every NATO country that ever got a shipment dumped on them. It's a mess.

>>6391094
There's a DS port that seems pretty faithful, just with some updated graphics.

>>6391953
Since it seems like you're in the know, what are every ammo type in the game and how would you rate their overall usefulness in both early and late game?
I know of regular, blue, red, green, tan, and cold versions of most/everything have heard of purple. Not terribly certain which are the best to use on a daily basis early and which to use late other than purple band stuff.

>>6392043
Don't forget the white, match ammo.

>>6392059
I haven't seen any drop and Bobby doesn't sell it yet for me.

>>6392043
It's fukken convoluted and there are a lot of different methods so I can only really break down what I use. I don't use everything though.

>Blue/green (holowpoint/glaser)
High damage, low armor penetration (green is double both those things) Good early game, useless late game except on bugs/cats. Green out of a smg absolutely shreds bloodcats and bugs. This color I think applies to gas grenades too.

>White (match rounds)
I use it about as much as purple for anyone with a rifle. I think it increases your accuracy and range. That's supposed to be stuff people use for shooting competitions. I think it's good for snipers/rifle guys.

>yellow (tracer I think)
Light up bullets/grenades. I don't use the bullet yellow, it's supposed to make your auto shots more accurate but it negates flash suppressors so I neglect it, I'm sure there's a use for it. Yellow grenades work like break lights. So yellow = light.

>Red (Armor-Piercing)
I only really use in rifles or as a backup for purple smg.

>Snowflake icon (Cold-loaded)
Only really useful for rifles that take AR suppressors. Because the AR suppressor is only like half effective you use it in conjunction. Right now I have this bullshit 9x19mm rifle that only takes AR suppressor despite shooting pistol bullets, so I have cold rounds for that. They do less damage though so it makes more sense to use cold rifle ammo than cold pistol/smg ammo unless you're trying to go really fukken sneaky smg commando mode, but I wouldn't because the damage is pitiful.

>Purple (AET)
Your best choice when you get an engineer on your team like maddog. They make your gun degrade faster and have likelier rates of jamming so you need to pay more attention to repairs between fights when you go full AET. It's basically mixing blue and red ammo and getting the best of both at a cost to weapon stability. Very useful during auto/burst for getting the animation where the guy flies back and sprays blood out his chest.

>>6392184
What about missile rifle ammo? HEAT and stuff?

>>6392184
cont
so gas grenades operate like HP for people without masks on. green's deadlier than blue. It doesn't really make sense but I try to arrange this by color in my head.

>Tan (buckshot)
these use blue clips/mags/shells but have a tan number for ammo which is annoying. They spread. Really great early game, I switch to slugs for late game for shotguns if I use them at all because slugs eat armor. But shot will still drop a dude in armor because you blow a chunk of their energy bar and when they're really close that'll still knock them out.

>>6392191
I'm not crazy on rocket rifles or stuff that uses fingerprint locks. HEAT rounds are good on the tanks and anyone with a spectra suit. HE is just good on tanks. AP is good on soldiers.

Then with rpg/bazookas/rocket launchers (not LAWs) I stick with HE rockets because frag rockets are unpredictable. I love the HE rocket launchers because you can breach buildings with them.

>>6392208
also I think the HE rocket launcher launcher ammo I use is thermobaric.

>>6392191
HEAT is like a can-opener, but for tanks

>>6392184
also also I forgot to mention that red rifle ammo has a chance of going through people, so it's perfect for a sniper and when the AI bunches up like it does

Lastly I think bullet size is a factor in damage but I can't be arsed to look for a comparison. Because 1.13 uses fucking x,y calibrations for bullet sizes.

X is the bullet's diameter and Y is its length.

So like 7.62mmX39mm ammo does more damage than 7.62X25mm ammo because it's a longer bullet (a rifle bullet being longer than a pistol bullet). (pic related)

7.62mm rifle ammo does more damage than 5.56mm because it's a wider bullet.

It's true to life for the most part but it's very tricky if you're not into guns.

>tracer ammo and burst fire on a merc with the aggressive trait
great fun

1.13 is for retards.

>>6392008
I have it. It’s super annoying to play because the stylus controls are a little finicky compared to mouse and keyboard, but I guess it’s nice that it got some sorta port.

>>6392251
Does this mean I should pick up a 50 cal pistol from Bobby Ray's and treat it as the greatest thing ever?

>>6391934
I understand, hopefuly he doesnt fuck that up
Another issue that wont affect anyone else itt is that if you've had the game on your backlog and just didnt get to it like me when you do play it in the future and try to talk about it you'll get called a ssethfag

>>6391934
>>6392825
>Not wanting you have your entire team of mercs look like Alvin & The Chipmunks

>>6390320
Starting earlier today, hopefully make some good progress.

Trevor's arrived, but he's currently having to sneak his way over to Drassen himself as the area's swarming with enemies, nothing new there.

Still looking for good gun ideas for Ira, since I'm kind of a gunlet here.

>>6392863
Really wish it let you train one batch of rookies to regular blueshirts instead of forcing you to fill each area with rookies first.

>>6392889
Lots of shopping later, I may have turned Razor into a weeb, and for that I am not sorry.

Random challenge idea if anyone's interested in trying it or offering input:
>Must grab an "I love Deidreana!" T-shirt from C13 or wherever else for all your mercs to wear as soon as possible
>If surrender is offered, must always select "yes" and answer her honestly when questioned
>Light ironman (no saves in battle)
That's it. Rest of the settings are whatever you dare. I think it would encourage interesting behavior, just make sure to post the journey and results here.

>>6392863
>Still looking for good gun ideas for Ira
Ira doesn't need a gun, since you should only use her for training militia (she receives a bonus), or as a backup medic/doctor.

>>6393080
>Random attack on Drassen
>Random attack on Drassen
>Random attack on Drassen
>SAM site taken back
>Random attack on Drassen
pls stap.

Honestly, I think my next target should be Cambria. It's closer by instead of the other side of the map, and I can't think of a single reason to bother going to San Mona this time.

>>6393432
>since you should only use her for training militia (she receives a bonus
That can't be right, she only has 14 leadershi...
>Teacher
Huh.

>>6392863
Ira's got scouting so a rifle with a good scope makes her ideal for taking up an overwatch position since she gets better range and less tunnel vision.

>>6393432
Ira's a goddamn lifesaver as a combat medic and her wisdom starts at 83 so she learns very quickly if you have a good marksman/trainer.

>>6393445
Starting the game with Buns on your team is practically cheating for how much it lets you train Ira early on. Buns can train Ira in leadership, marksmanship, and medical very fucking quickly.

I've seen some shit in Cambria

how do you guys deal with enemies camped behind doors with automatic weapons? I open the door and just get cut down immediately. I would like to open it from the side and toss a grenade in but the character stands directly in front of the door to open it and that's very bad.

>>6393445
Shit, okay anyone know exactly what this red gas is? Google keeps bringing up the fuel type of gas and it's been too long for me to remember.

>>6393559
Unironically blow up the door. Breaching charges can incapacitate someone directly behind a door. Most times however they're camped in the room with a clear shot to the doorway. In this case blow up the nearby wall and/or doorway.

Tnt will do the job but I've become a much bigger fan of chain explosions. So if you put a jar of RDX crystals down and then chuck a grenade at it the chain reaction makes a pretty big boom.

I've heard that breaching shotguns are an option but it's a bit niche whereas explosives solve all kinds of problems. Just don't get hit with any explosives while carrying RDX or you'll be incinerated.

>>6392825
>>6391934
>>6390803
Just post good info on the assumption he's lurking.

>>6393587
Ok, I'm not experimenting with explosives enough. There's actually some of that RDX on the level I'm on, it's the Alma Military base, and I tried putting it by down by the door and shooting it to detonate it but it was a no go. I will throw a grenade at it now. There was actually one of these campers in this area that was in a room with the door open and I tried throwing 3 mini grenades in at him (it was all I had for grenades) and it did absolutely no damage to him. I guess those ones don't damage armored enemies?

>>6393585
that’s the smoke ‘designator’ for an artillery strike
you might not want to stand near it

>>6393618
Might be a bug. Mini grenades typically knock an enemy off their feet so either your guy threw something that registered as a miss or the game fucked up. Cover negates them pretty well.

Honestly with the number of quality bomb guys in 1.13 I'm surprised it's not a more popular method like in X-com. Since everything is destructible powerful explosives negate a lot of those FUCK ME standoffs where you try to breach a building with a bunch of dudes in it and get barrel stuffed. They're never prepared for you to blow the side wall while they're pointing guns at the door so it's a massive boon.

I always take shank by late game and instead of making him do anything I have him tag along in the back, away from everyone, muling around whatever explosives I'll need for a given area.

Landmines as well, really. Complete game-changer with regards to SAM sites since enemy squads usually only come from specific directions and if you know where they're headed (holes I cut in the fences when taking the site are dummy common) then you can completely disrupt their assaults.

I have no idea if this is a bug but when I took the meduna gardens the enemies that came in to retake them would constantly spawn in right by the major minefield in that map so I barely had to fight anyone.

I have no patience whatsoever for the crazy micro required for tripwire claymores but they are disgustingly effective.

>>6393585
>>6393635
Ah right, that would explain the artillery strike that happened on the next turn.

Don't suppose you know what this is too? There was a brief alarm and 8 to 10 puffs of these smoke in this building.

>>6393649
Whoops, pic.

>>6393649
Not him but that alarm sets off tear gas in the control room and all the dudes inside have masks. They do it on the assumption you're gonna go in there and get shot.

>>6393481
Just as the developers intended!

>>6393642
It could be a bug, I don't know, I forgot to mention I'm playing 1.12. This is my first time playing this so I thought vanilla would be the way. When I threw them in there I did hear him groan after the detonation. Then when I got closer to the room to get eyes on him he was just standing there perfectly healthy and ready to show me the machine gun dance.

>>6393649
one prison floods the cells with tear gas when the alarm is triggered
another one uses mustard gas
be aware of this if you’re trying to rescue one of your mercs

>>6393652
Have an aneurysm ya cunt, would save me a job.

>Enter new area
>Guard nearby
>Send Razor to go decapitate him
>The fucker interrupts and steals Razor's Katana
What the FUCK, they can do that?

>>6393812
shamefur dispray

>>6393782
Pls stop sealing my Katana, it's getting very annoying.

May have to leave it here tonight, this is a mudfight and it's going nowhere.

>>6393909
Any tripwire experts around? They get 9 reinforcements from the east, and I've all the time in the world to set up something to kill off some of them early.

I've 4 reels of tripwire, 3 landmines, a ton of grenades (mini, Mk2, stun), one stick of TNT and a bear trap.

>>6393909
put mines/traps up the wall of the building (on side from which the enemies will be coming from)
take position on the roof of the building and wait for the enemies
they will no doubt try to climb up and will walk into the mines. if they detect them they probably won't defuse them, so they won't be able to climb up at all

>>6394048
Okay not sure I properly made myself clear.

There's a dozen enemies milling around those two buildings with one on the roof of each. They don't know I'm there though and I'm free to do whatever I like on the south and east edges of the map as much as I like, but once they know I'm there then reinforcements come from the east about 3 turns later.

>>6394086
sneak to the east border and place traps on the edge so the reinforcements spawn/run into them
also consider camping on the east edge of the map to get some free shots at the reinforcements (see >>6384421 >>6384482 )

Is it possible to run a co-op campaign with 1.13's multiplayer?

>>6393963
just put the mines and tripwires where the enemies walk

>>6393909
A quick visual of what I'm trying to do here, 9 in the sector with 14 that will arrive the moment I poke the nest.

>>6396954
Trying to find a weak spot so that Razor can kill off a few stealthily, but they're all grouped together far too closely.

>>6397058
Managed to kill all the arriving enemies, but one of the guards coming at me from the north west immediately calls in an artillery strike, and that strike crashes my game.

>>6397120
It's been a collective 3 or so hours, but I finally have this fucking battle under control.

>>6397189
>Last guy (an elite) just camped forever behind the shed waiting to get the react on me
UGH.

Still, taken the area now, and you can bet your fucking ass I'm going to sit here until I've got 20 militia and am all rested up.

>>6397223
just flank him then

>>6397223
>Need to have people to actually train them
Oh. Right.

>>6397243
I did, took 3 reloads before I found a timeline where he wasn't ready to shoot me in the fucking face since he kept turning around.

>>6397280
Well, quickly took the nearest bit of the town just so I could start recruiting militia, also hired Buns to give Ira a bit of training as
>>6393452
mentioned, though she can't train Leadership so I'm a little let down there.

Will leave it there for today.

>>6397664
why would you need to train leadership from a teacher anyway, it skyrockets when you train militia.

the 1.13 portraits are so cringe.

>>6398729
those are blank portraits, anon.
what are you seething about?

>>6398868
the ones with sunglasses, icons, and camo and shit, you fucking retard.

>>6398963
that's a little rude

>>6398729
>why would you need to train leadership from a teacher anyway, it skyrockets when you train militia.
Because I discovered you can't train militia at all unless leadership meets some basic minimum standard. Maybe it's a 1.13 thing.

>>6399270
i believe that requirement also existed in vanilla

>>6399270
In 1.13 you can just do this instead of slowly practicing Ldr.

will i like this game if i love deus ex and think shadow tactics was pretty okay

>>6397664
Resuming for a little bit, was busy most of the day.

>>6399752
Thanks for that man, it'd completely slipped my mind that you can order them about at all. Got her to 50 Leadership, though it damn near gave me carpal tunnel in the process.

>>6400506
You would definitely like Commandos 2 if you liked Shadow Tactics, the gameplay is extremely similar. JA2 is supposed to be played like Darkest Dungeon, mercs are expendable, but you can also play it like an RPG where you focus on training individual skills, the game is quite versatile. The key is not to overdo training because knowing which places to prioritize and hiring 10 men is much more beneficial than pampering your favorite albeit expensive merc.

>>6400840
>though it damn near gave me carpal tunnel in the process.
Hold the mouse in the air and mash the button with both your thumbs using your arms. It's a trick speedrunners do for mashing in ocarina of time.

>>6400840
Okay, anyone got a solution to this?

Been getting occasional crashes like with the artillery strike as I mentioned here:
>>6397120
and my screen's been glitchy for the last week when displaying enemy views as you can see here:
>>6397058
but this is the worst crash I've been having and it happens immediately at the start of this battle.

Any ideas, or am I stuck autoresolving everything now? This kinda sucks man.

>>6400889
>Try getting Steam to verify the integrity of the files
>It finds problems
>Shit it's just reversed the 1.13 install
>Reinstall 1.13
>It's wiped out all my ini options completely
...I don't know if I can go on man.

>>6400889
That's what you get for not getting the modpack like I advised.

>>6400923
I don't even know what modpack you mean.

>>6400926
You literally linked in the OP to the previous thread where I posted the modpack url a bunch of times.

>>6400920
rip

>>6400923
>>6400934
After a quick Ctrl + F of that thread, firstly that wasn't me you were talking to and secondly it doesn't sound terribly appealing in terms of settings and stuff.

>>6400946
Yeah, after all that I just tried again and no change at all it crashes all the same.

If somebody has some magical fix for me then I'll continue playing, otherwise I guess my attempts to play die here.

>>6400953
>it doesn't sound terribly appealing in terms of settings and stuff
How tf doesn't it when it's perfectly balanced by the most competent person still developing this game btw (sevenfm), and includes just about all the imaginable improvements that would make the mod not shit and instead interesting.

>>6400953
>>6400953
Look bro the truth of the matter is you installed some kind of sketchy 1.13 version when you should have gone for the AI project instead. Go grab the modpack and enjoy a bugless game instead of that deprecated trash.

how does setting up sandbags work

Whatever team I may be on has to bag missions on a consistent basis. It's an image thing, you understand.

>>6402983
What are Mike's stats?

>the screencap spamming moron acually used the steam version without copying it over somewhere and expected "file integrity check" to fix his 1.13 installation
You know, it's the ultimate hilarity when everything is pre-installed for you so the dumbest ape can just copy+v and get it running, but this semi-lucid monkey manages to fuck it up anyway.

I mean, I wasn't expecting much from a retarded attention whore discord fag, but we can finally put this thread to rest at least.

>>6403478
I see your one week ban just expired.

>>6403516
why do you think it’s only one person shitting on you?

>>6403553
Don't even try to pretend, you're just embarrassing yourself now.

>>6403516
You've got some epic delusions going, my dude. A week ban? If I can reset my router? Not that I was banned anyway.

Still hilarious how you think others wouldn't criticize you for being a stat fagging snowflake in a 4chan let's play. (who fucking does this outside of /vg/?)

But congrats apparently jannies approve of this shitfest for some reason as I got a 13 minute block, so good luck with your cancerous screencap dump. Though I imagine you being embarrassingly inept will solve that on its own.

>>6403689
>act like a spoiled child
>get put in time out
A mystery for the ages, I'm sure.

>>6403725
Cope faggot your lets play sucks

>>6392607
not necessarily
rifles tend to be more effective

>>6403084
this is after a few battles, but it's pretty close to where he started

Original world designer Ian Currie and SirTech founder Robert Sirotek apparently teamed up with a Turkish director-investor to resurrect the franchise, but the Austrian cunts named THQ Nordic who own the IP, won't sell it directly for a totally independent JA3

Theyre still trying though

t. brother works in THQ Global

>>6403084
>>6405846
it can vary for each playthrough

>>6405846
>>6406267
Better than any of your guys just as I thought.

>>6405990
I knew those good-for-nothing aussies were not to be trusted.

As for Robert, his creation evolved into something he can never topple, so he can stop trying. His modernized trash could never live up to the Jagged Alliance name.

https://youtu.be/7DTEWl7geRI
https://youtu.be/DYNsuHnnk1A

>>6405846
>>6406267
Where's his maxed out liar stat? Why is it hidden?

>>6406313
yeah, his stats are pretty damn high
>>6406516
that's under employment, next to his hit on jfk and his capture of saddam

>>6405990
Wow, I never heard that before. I had figured that both of them had left the industry.

Stupid move by THQ - the original devs are the only ones who really "get" JA, modders included.

>>6407570
I don't see how they'd would make a competing product to something like 1.13 which thrived on perfectionism and long-term support. The 2D retro graphics are like half the appeal, and "modern" JA2 already exists, it's called UFO.

Like, sure they can try to captivate the normie audience, but everyone outgrew the need for sequels, especially after failures like back in action. It'd be like asking for a Commandos 2 sequel slapped together in Unity when the original game aged like fine wine.

>>6405990
have they considered going the route of a spiritual successor if they can't get the series back?
>>6408071
i suspect his "modders included" comment would suggest he feels differently about 1.13 than you do
i certainly wouldn't have minded something like a professional 'urban chaos' with the same graphics, but there's no way that could have sold competently in 2003, let alone 2020

>>6405990
Fuck THQ Nordic if true

>>6408071

I guess we like the series for completely different reasons - 1.13, especially in its current stable iteration, is the epitome of bloat and too many cooks in the kitchen. It's fine in my opinion as a JA2 remix or whatever, but it is severely imbalanced buggy mess that is in no way a superior experience to 1.12 for the first-time player.

More doesn't always mean better, and just because you added in modifiers to Scully's CTH because Hitman farted downwind on a Tuesday in the rain, doesn't make it a better experience.

The appeal of JA/DG/JA2, and what differentiated it from XCOM/UFO, was that the characters you hire had real personality and quality VA, the 80s action movie feel and stereotypes, in addition to the excellent strategy and combat layer.

>>6408972
I don't think that any of 1.13's additions detract from the 80's movie style or the merc personalities, nor do they weaken the strategy and combat layer of the game.
1.13's greatest strength is the tremendous amount of control and variability the player has in adding mechanics and tweaking the way things work. JA2 1.12 is already an excellent game with tremendous replayability, but 1.13 makes this nearly infinite. Aside from how impressive of a mod it is, it certainly does hold a slightly larger place than a similar mod might in a different series simply because Jagged Alliance ceased to receive quality followups to JA2, and so 1.13 existed as a sort of epilogue to an excellent game.
Honestly, I don't understand why there are people so upset about the general appreciation for 1.13, as it certainly isn't overshadowing some worthy sequel made afterwards. None of the things that make JA2 great are removed from 1.13, and if a larger variety of weapons and attachments is a severe issue, it can be turned off fairly easily.

>>6408972
Cool hyperbole. No, CTH overhaul wasn't done over petty attention to detail, it was done so guns don't land every bullet in burst fire at half a mile range.
>the AI being dumb as bricks with no semblance of what would actually happen in a real shootout is somehow the epitome of a first time playthrough
You clearly know jackshit about the current state of 1.13 and have no argument here.

>New Sseth video
>It wasn't JA2 for some reason
Not sure how I should feel about this.

>>6410492

>>6377724
>>6378335
His video was on Wizardry you tardbottom.

>>6410557
He must have changed his mind or something then, because his previous video showed JA2 as his next target.

>>6410571
>Being dumb enough to fall for a meme.

>>6410557
all sirtech games are actually the same

I'm lernding

>>6410710
That will do, Ira.

>>6410710
did she ever get her ear back

>>6410710
I want to start a game where I make IRA into a killer powerhouse by the end of the game, a jaded manslayer, SS tier assassin with markshmanship 99

>>6412162
>war be most unpleasant

>>6412162
Ira can never topple the memory man.

>>6412162
i mean if you use her normally at the start of the game (combat and militia, some medic) her exp level and marksmanship goes up stupid quick. at least lvl 7 in meduna, and experience level is by far the most important stat in the game.

>>6412632
jesus christ

>>6377724
How good is the first JA?

>>6414592
quite

>>6414592
It's worth getting into if you enjoy the DOS look. Plays way slower than vanilla JA2, and obviously you won't get much out of it in terms of realistic tactics, though.