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>two hundred ninety six games

>> No.6384665

>one hundred twenty eight threads made
>zero fucks given

>> No.6384674

>>6384659
are you really going to spend 24 years seething over a video game console

>> No.6384678

unga bunga n64 bad

>> No.6384701

How many worthwhile games did it have that weren't by Nintendo? 1? 2? Still less than 10 while being as generous as possible?

>> No.6384709

>>6384659
its more like 430

>> No.6384714
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6384714

>no RPGs

>> No.6384724

>>6384714
Quest 64?

>> No.6384728

>>6384659
Less than sega saturn

>> No.6384734

lol what, 12 good games? haha.

>> No.6384739

20% racing games.
>and that's a good thing maybe not the Hydro Thunder port though yikes

>> No.6384740

>>6384659
Still leagues better than the Dreamcast.

>> No.6384745

>>6384714
What do you consider an RPG exactly? Strictly traditional DQ/FF esque games? Cause it's true there aren't really any of those.

There's Paper Mario, Super Robot Wars 64 and Ogre Battle 64. But the latter 2 are SRPG's and Paper Mario does have turn based battles but I'm not sure if it falls under being a JRPG or not.

>> No.6384749

Mario, Zelda, the list goes on...

>> No.6384861

>>6384659
Dreamcast had more games.

>> No.6384889

>>6384740
>Still leagues better than the Dreamcast
When confronted with an argument on why the 64 isn't good you shouldn't push off criticism with "well at least it's better than system 'X' " especially when you blatantly lie and say that it's better than the DC. That just makes you look silly.

>> No.6384893

>another fucking console war thread
Go back to >>>/v/

>> No.6385443

>>6384659
quality > quantity

>> No.6385447

>>6384659
holy shit dreamcast had 620

>> No.6385459
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6385459

>>6384714
Come again?

>> No.6385484

>>6384714
Didnt really miss them.

>> No.6385494

>>6384659
This console really knows its gaems

>> No.6385495

>>6385447
Vita hit over 1500. (indie/digital obviously helped)
In the case of DC it was the cheap media buy in and guarantee of arcade support that helped push that many games in such a short time.

>> No.6385551

>>6384674
Probably not. He's spent his first 12 doing it but a tide pod will prevent him reaching 24.

>> No.6385569

>>6385495
It's interesting when you compare it to the Gamecube which sat at 657 games while the Dreamcast had 620 games. The cube being mostly active from 2001-2006 (although it had some 07 releases) and the Dreamcast going from 1998 to 2001 (with some 02 releases.) The Dreamcast was around for half as long yet has almost as many games.

When you look at the numbers like this, it seems like Nintendo has had a game problem for a long time thanks to rocky third party relationships.

>> No.6385583
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6385583

People obsessed with the N64 are so cute.
Imagine going out of your way to post about a console you supposedly don't like.
I know in the end they're just tsundere for it.

>> No.6385617

>>6385495
>Vita hit over 1500
If that doesn't show just how meaningless numbers of released games is I don't know what will.

>> No.6385619

>>6385583
Right? lol >>6374914

>> No.6385646

>>6384701
I can name 20 without looking at my collection if you want

>> No.6385661

at least it's no jaguar/3do, they're so dead it's easy to forget they were in the same generation

>> No.6385694

>>6385646
Not him but please do! I wanna play some good non first party titles I might've missed
Space Station Silicon Valley comes to mind, the music is phenomenal and it's just fun, I've never seen the gimmick of possessing enemies so well executed as in this one

>> No.6385803
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The PS1 outsold the N64 nearly 3 to 1, and had nearly 5 times the amount of games. It also was responsible for numerous new franchises, and made existing ones even more popular. They followed up with the PS2 which buried the Gamecube nearly 8 to 1, and by the PS3 they also beat Nintendo in hardware specs (and even the Xbox, too). Even though Nintendo has had a two generation head start, Sony has beaten them in total number of consoles sold.

Yet despite all this, it seems like Nintendo won in the end. More people are nostalgic for the N64 than the PS1, same with the GCN v PS2. Gaming publications continually mocked the GameCube, but respected its exclusives such as Wind Waker and (formerly) Resident Evil 4, almost more than the myriad exclusives the PS2 had. PS3 had arguably the largest number of exclusives yet it was constantly mocked for having no gaems. The Wii U was a dismal failure, yet it having key third party titles (Bayonetta 2 and Fatal Frame) drew a lot of people's attention. Sony makes an unprecedented move in releasing one of their own franchises on PC, and barely anyone cares, yet Nintendo releases fucking Animal Crossing and the whole internet is obsessed with the game.

What the hell happened? What did they do wrong? For a company that entered the game industry purely to spite Nintendo, Nintendo seems to have people's attention.

>> No.6385832

>>6384659
They were quality games, though, unlike ShovelwareStation.

>> No.6385854

>>6385832
le shovelware maymay

This is why le quality over le quantity maymay systems fail and why faggots like you will eternally seethe. Among those so-called "shovelware" there's all types of games, hidden gems and always a niche to be pleased. This is what made the PS1, PS2, NDS, PC, so successful.

Someone, somewhere is having the time of their lives with one game almost no one knows and that matters a lot.

>> No.6385948

>>6385803
It's because nintendo understands the purpose of console gaming more. Microsoft and Sony make wannabe pcs, so people who play nintendo grow attached not only to the games, but the hardware itself. This is an n64 thread and ironically enough, I feel that a huge draw of the switch is the fact games load off of cartridge or SD cards, whereas with playstation or xbox you're stuck with 60 gb downloads and slow load times.

>> No.6385949

>>6385803
>Sony makes an unprecedented move in releasing one of their own franchises on PC, and barely anyone cares
which one?

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>>6384659
And yet you've only played 5 or less of them.

>> No.6385964

>>6385854
>plebbit spacing
>obviously assblasted over Chad N64 owners being totally satisfied

OR

The Virgin PlayStation owner:
>can't quickly come up with ten great memorable games
>turns to stone when anyone mentions the firsts achieved with the N64
>can't deal with the extra 32 bits
>can't play games because it became below 70 degrees and 71 degrees Fahrenheit and you ate a peanut butter


Vs.

The Chad Nintendo 64 owner
>fully satisfied
>can quickly come up with 10 or more games on demand
>load times are for faggots
>carts can injure small animals and children alike and still boot up no problems

>> No.6385971

>>6385949
Horizon Zero Dawn. Granted it's not out yet, but no one expected a first party IP to ever leave the Sony ecosystem. If it was Bloodborne instead the NEVER EVER shitposting would've backfired so hard, /v/ would've broken.

>> No.6385976

>>6385971
oh, haven't heard of that game

>> No.6385981

>>6385694
Chameleon Twist
Turok
Extreme G
Rocket: Robot on Wheels
Glover
Mystical Ninja
Goemon's Great Adventure
Bomberman Hero
Bomberman 64
Mischief Makers (published by Nintendo internationally)
Quest/Holy Magic Century
Iggy's Reckin Balls
Rayman 2
Snowboard Kids
Harvest Moon 64
Quarterback Club
Aerofighter's Assault
Buck Bumble
Top Gear Rally

>> No.6385982

>>6385569
Now look at the wii's shovelware crap and all of the horrible digital games on the wiiu/3ds/switch.

>>6385617
painfully true

>> No.6385991

>>6385569
Who the fuck cares? I know the e-celeb you heard this from convinced you that winning sheer quantity competition is indicative of overall quality, but this on the contrary indicates you're underage.

>> No.6386059

>>6385583
My first video game wifu

>> No.6386062

I cant get my Niggy64 to recognize my memory card and when it does and I save it it doesnt stay saved.

Any good new third party cards?

>> No.6386065

>>6385569
Where are all these Dreamcast games at?
Are you counting homebrew shit?

>> No.6386075

>>6386062
>third party
Most people have bad experiences with third party memory paks, myself included.
Are you using a 3rd party one now?

>> No.6386181

>>6385803
>What the hell happened? What did they do wrong? For a company that entered the game industry purely to spite Nintendo, Nintendo seems to have people's attention.

It's because Nintendo consoles had more kid-friendly games and because society is increasingly being populated by manchildren they look back more fondly on the games that made them feel like children. Most of which happened to be on Nintendo consoles.

>> No.6386250

>>6386181
Careful guys, we've got a Mature Gamer among us

>> No.6386337
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>>6385803
its because Nintendo fans RULE and I mean RULE you tube

NES channels? TONS
master system channels 1~2 (all of them are British)

Nintendo fanboys dont have that many games to talk about, so whatever games they get from Nintendo they keep talking about over and over again

same with sonic, their are few SEGA channels, but Sonic channels? TONS!

Sony has too many games, so the discussion is too dispersed, people will talk the exclusives, but because the exclusives if they are still around are all multi plats (spyro, crash, tomb raider) you dont associate them with Sony

>> No.6386608

>>6385991
>>6386065
Only criticizing Nintendo's third party policies nets you this kind of hostility. It's a well accepted fact that Nintendo treated their "partners" like shit. It's why third parties shunned them for several generations now. Not hard to figure out you fanboys.

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>>6385459
>SRW64
>RPG
Is this dickhead serious?

>> No.6386627
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6386627

How did the n64 do it?
How did it have relatively few games but so many all time classics?
Has there ever been a console with a higher percentage of instant classics on it?
Has any other console even come close to having an almost 90% good game ratio like the n64?
Was the n64 operating under the best design ethos of all time? Quality over quantity?
Why did the newer consoles abandon this to focus on shovelware?

>> No.6386631

>>6386618
They called Zelda an RPG which is hilarious

>> No.6386632

>>6386631
The same wikimedia contributor classifies Final Fantasy as an RPG on other lists so yea they have no idea what they are doing.

>> No.6386634

>>6386632
Cope

>> No.6386636

>>6386634
Fully agreeing with you is a cope? Guess Im citizen cope living in copeland working in the copermines

>> No.6386639

>>6386627
>How did the n64 do it?
By forcing the devs to condense their games into a godawful $20 cartridge with a huge capacity of 30 MB and volatile data storage system so your game's data will be lost when the battery inside runs dry (Controller Pak(tm) sold separately).

>> No.6386645

>>6385443
Neither = n64

>> No.6386649

>>6386645
>mad at 25 year old plastic
lolwut

>> No.6386654

>>6385646
OK, but no multiplatform games allowed.

>> No.6386658

>>6385459
Zelda should be on the bottom list. There's nothing RPG about it.

>> No.6386660

>>6386654
And no games that have the letter E in the name!
Also no games that were released during the Clinton presidency.
Getting a little tough to name those 20 games, huh?

>> No.6386661

>>6386654
N64's most popular exclusives were turned into multiplatform games as soon as UltraHLE emulator was introduced for Pentium II PCs in 1998.

>> No.6386667

>>6386181
The only correct answer

>> No.6386670

>>6386667
>Mature games for mature gamers such as myself
lolwut

>> No.6386672

>>6386661
also ported to basically every other nintendo console and even some microsoft ones. There is nothing as worthless as owning an N64.

>> No.6386674

>>6386672
Unless, you know, you bought it new and played the games before they were ported decades later and also enjoy the Nintendo first party exclusives.
But if you add arbitrary rules as to what you can list as a good game then yea dont include any of those.

>> No.6386678

>>6385803
>Yet despite all this, it seems like Nintendo won in the end. More people are nostalgic for the N64 than the PS1, same with the GCN v PS2. Gaming publications continually mocked the GameCube, but respected its exclusives such as Wind Waker and (formerly) Resident Evil 4, almost more than the myriad exclusives the PS2 had. PS3 had arguably the largest number of exclusives yet it was constantly mocked for having no gaems. The Wii U was a dismal failure, yet it having key third party titles (Bayonetta 2 and Fatal Frame) drew a lot of people's attention. Sony makes an unprecedented move in releasing one of their own franchises on PC, and barely anyone cares, yet Nintendo releases fucking Animal Crossing and the whole internet is obsessed with the game.

>What the hell happened?

Your definition of winning and these companies are not the same.

Sony wins by having the largest market share.

Nintendo's strategy of winning is to carve out a niche, but profitable corner of the home console market.

I also don't agree with your assertion that 'more people are nostalgic for Nintendo's consoles than Sony's.' Sony has made a killing by releasing PSN downloads and HD remasters of classic games from the PSX, PS2, and PS3 era.

>> No.6386682

>>6386674
>Unless, you know, you bought it new
Then you grew up to be an obsessive weirdo with skewed taste that talks about the same 12 kids games on loop

>> No.6386685

>>6386682
>kids games
>unlike my mature games for mature gamers such as myself

>> No.6386687

>>6386682
>obsessive weirdo
>upset over 25 year old plastic
yea, those people who had N64s are the obsessive weirdos... now lets seethe about a console that came out before germany was unified.

>> No.6386689

>>6386685
>>6386687
As demonstrated, a creepy, obsessive weirdo.

>> No.6386692

>>6386689
Struck a nerve?
Now lets post another thread about the plastic we hate from three decades ago.

>> No.6386695

>>6386692
Its not obsessive to hate things that dont impact you. Its obsessive to have fond memories of childhood you fucking weirdo.

>> No.6386701

>>6386250
>>6386670
It's true though, T and M rated games are better than all ages games. PS1 had great exclusives like Silent Hill, MGS, Medal of Honor, Parasite Eve, Dino Crisis, and Syphon Filter. N64 only got Goldeneye.

>> No.6386702

>>6385981

That's only 19 you fucking doublenigger.

>> No.6386704

>>6386701
Fully agreed. Its embarrassing when I have to go to my friends at recess and I cant talk about the M rated games or R rated movies like the 6th graders.

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>>6385803
>and even the Xbox, too
Most multiplats ran like dogshit on the PS3 though
It was a terrible platform to develop for with a gimped GPU, and Sony lost literal billions developing it

My favourite part was when Microsoft just licensed the CPU architecture for the 360 and released it a year in advance

>> No.6386708

>>6385976
Not surprising, everyone forgot about it in a week since BotW and the Switch came out at the same time

>> No.6386709

>>6386658
fucking this
its an adventure game

>> No.6386715

>>6386706
Snoys and nintendrones are corporate bootlicking manchildren who would defend literally anything their company shits out. Segachads and xchads humbly admit the flaws of their products.

>> No.6386716

It cannot be that low, maybe Japan has more games?

>> No.6386717

>>6386716
>maybe Japan has more games?
Counting them you get 388. That's a lot of shogi!

>> No.6386720

>>6384659
It's a miracle it even got to that number, looking at how Nintendo was treating softhouses at the time.
But still a great console. It was my dream machine when I was 12yo and boy, did I play that motherfucker for tens of thousands of hours.

>> No.6386726

Why does /vr/ like to incite fights so much? I thought this board was supposed to be a higher class than /v/.

>> No.6386732

>>6386695
>looking back on your childhood in a positive light is something only weirdos do
I see you and your uncle had some quality time together, I suppose this is why you're so upset about so little

>> No.6386735

>>6386732
No I just hate the idea of people playing childrens games when they should be playing mature games for mature gamers such as myself.

>> No.6386737

>>6386735
I guess you’re right. Heh, guess I should put down the ol platformers and boot up those Call of Duty classics.

>> No.6386739

>>6386737
No thats too mainstream. If you want to be a hardcore gamer you need to play hardcore mature games that are not so mainstream like Silent Hill, MGS, Medal of Honor, Parasite Eve, Dino Crisis, and Syphon Filter. This is why I dont talk to nintendoddlers at recess.

>> No.6386753

>>6386636

You assume that he even knows what "cope" really means, like with a lot of buzzwords.

>> No.6386756

>>6386753
>>6386739
>>6386737
>>6386735
>>6386732
We're witnessing a profound level of cope here.

>> No.6386764
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6386764

Why do I do it? Not sure, some say its a curse. But I know its my duty. Every day there out there, people, some going about their lives as if theyre perfectly normal, but deep down its not true. Deep down they have a dark secret, a dark past. These people played on the N64. They enjoyed children's games as children. They have fond memories of these events. How? Dont they see its wrong? Dont the see the superiority of the mature and deep titles for other consoles? Why would someone enjoy Zelda when they could have played Final Fantasy 7 on the PSX? Who could go on as normal knowing they played Goldeneye when they could have played Siphon Filter? What suffering these people must feel! How can I save them? Can they be saved? Im not sure. But I know I have to try. Every day I post. I post hard. I wont let people obsess over the N64, I wont let them be manchildren. They have to be shown the truth. To obsess over a console from 30 years ago for even a moment would be a moment of precious life wasted for them, and I wont have it. People need to know the truth. I wont stop until no one is left who remembers the N64 fondly. They need to know the truth, and I will be the one to show them. So manchildren, its time to see the facts and stop obsessing over the N64.

>> No.6386767

>>6384714
JRPGs are shit

>> No.6386768

>>6386764
damn... think i’m finna preorder the new playstation...

>> No.6386796

>>6386764
This changes everything. I'm getting off the HRT, throwing out my programmers socks and getting a Playstation. No more Nintendo for me.

>> No.6386853

>>6386796
rent free

>> No.6386927

>>6385964
>>can't quickly come up with ten great memorable games
You call that bait, lmao. There's more than a hundred memorable games on the PSX, plus hundreds of other good titles.

>can't deal with the extra 32 bits
number is biggers so most bester

>>can't play games because it became below 70 degrees and 71 degrees Fahrenheit and you ate a peanut butter
This doesn't even make sense you faggot, what are you babbling about?

>> No.6386931

>>6385971
Same shit as the other soulscrap games, with guns and muh aesthetic chromatic aberration.

I regret being lent that game for free. Fuck Basedny.

>> No.6386932

>>6385459
wtf, there was a shiren the wanderer on 64? Time to see if that got a fan translation.

>> No.6387005

>>6385443
ps1: we have both

>> No.6387016

Sonygger cope.

>> No.6387037

>>6387016
keep seething Nintendo fags
n64 have slow memory and all developers try to avoid using it, that is the reason you have low res texture

>> No.6387121

>>6386706
>My favourite part was when Microsoft just licensed the CPU architecture

Are you serious? Is this where the notion that the 360 and PS3 are twin systems comes from?

>> No.6387125

>>6387037
>n64 have slow memory and all developers try to avoid using it, that is the reason you have low res texture
Ah the regurgitation of misinfo from that e-celeb video has already began exactly as predicted.

>> No.6387146

>>6387121
Yes, both the 360 and PS3 CPUs are derived from exactly the same in-order PowerPC spin-off. The only difference between the two is core configuration, with 360 going for 3 general purpose cores, and the PS3 going for 1 general purpose core and a whole bunch of dedicated SIMD cores

>> No.6387147

>>6384659
Yes, and kids at the time owned maybe 10 by the end of the generation, because we were kids without jobs.

>> No.6387150

>>6386701
go back to >>>/r/eddit you stupid normalfag

>> No.6387164

>>6385551
"How quickly the tide turns"

>> No.6387190

>>6386726
spammer-influx due to corona-chan

>> No.6387950

>>6386708
na, i just haven't followed consoles past the 6th gen

>> No.6388173

>>6386927
Autism the post

>> No.6389080

>>6386767
No WRPGs either.

>> No.6389109

>>6386702
Chameleon twist 2
Extreme G 2
Glover 2
Bomberman 64 2
Snowboard Kids 2

>> No.6389117

>>6387147
/thread

>> No.6389206

>>6387147
best part about playstation is that you can rent and burn games instead of wish you own games

>> No.6389370

>>6386631
So did Nintendo of Japan.

>> No.6389376

>>6386702
Two different posters, you fucking faggot. I'm the second one. Those were off the top of my head, and there are more. You're welcome, by the way.

>> No.6389451

>>6389370
Nintendo lied

>> No.6389527

>>6388173
No you, nigger. And cringe at your nonsense.

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>>6385443
That's what every vroomer loves to say about the N64. They know it's not true, yet they still insist.

>> No.6389930

>>6386927
Feel free to list the memorable games. N64 gems are widely recognized, while Gaystation ones are hardly known.
>>6387037
Ah yes, because I love seeing all those polygons.

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6390174

>>6384659
3, 2, 1, GO!

>> No.6390212

>>6386627
Nintendo put insane limitations on who could develop for the N64 because of the cost of the dev kit alone. It drove off a lot of publishers but the ones who stayed had to do insane quality control and make sure their games were hits before releasing them due to the development costs. Even Acclaim, who were terrible during the SNES era started shitting out gold regularly. Not every game was good but outright stinkers were hard to come by and even people just renting at Blockbuster would come across a hidden gem like Fighters Destiny or Snowboard Kids. That's why the N64 mostly held up versus the competition as the PS1 had a lot more crap clogging up the shelves alongside their classics so no real lasting memories came from it and it's harder to pick out the hidden gems.

>> No.6390234

>>6385459
>zelda
Nice bait

>> No.6390351

>>6389930
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy VIII
Final Fantasy IX
Xenogears
Dragon Warrior VII
Star Ocean: The Second Story
Vagrant Story
Parasite Eve
Parasite Eve II
Resident Evil 1, 2 and 3
Silent Hill
Metal Gear Solid
Castlevania Symphony of The Night
Grandia
Wild Arms 1 and 2
Gran Turismo 1 and 2
Tekken 3
Harvest Moon: Back To Nature
Chrono Cross
Persona
Legend of Dragoon
Lunar 1 and 2
Breath of Fire III
Breath of Fire IV
FF Tactics
I could go on and on....

>> No.6390390

>>6385569
Dreamcast games continued being made after 2001 zoomie.

>> No.6390398

>>6385443
/thread

>> No.6390425

>>6390398
See >>6390174

>> No.6390436

>>6390351
>FF
Granted
>Xenogears
Pretentious trash. Unfinished game.
>DWVII
Granted.
>Star Ocean/Vagrant Story/Parasite Eve
Garbage.
>RE
Not exclusive.
>Silent Hill
Granted
>MGS
Garbage. MGS2 is the only good game in the series.
>Castlevania/Grandia/Wild Arms
Garbage.
>Gran Turismo
Normalfag trash.
>Tekken 3
Granted.
>Harvest Moon/CC/Persona/Dragoon
Garbage.
>Lunar
Not exclusive.
>BoF
Pretty garbage.

>> No.6390472

>>6390436
>>SoTN & Gran Turismo garbage
bait

>> No.6390502

>>6390472
SoTN is literally the worst Castlevania game, and if you're going to defend muh racing, you're probably just a normalfag.

>> No.6390571

>>6390436
dial 8 and have sex

>> No.6390589

>>6390436
MGS2 is the worst 3D Metal Gear, don't be retarded.

>> No.6390604

>>6384745
You forgot Aidyn Chronicles

>> No.6390618

>>6390589
It's the only good one, and I'll argue to the death about it.

>> No.6390620

>>6390351
>incelPGs
>shitty survival horror games that play like Myst
There are at most 5 decent games on your list.

>> No.6390626
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>>6390620
Commie detected.

>> No.6390654

>>6390626
The fact that you can go back and grind at all to make the game easier on the player proves that rpg is for no-skill commies.

>> No.6390661

>>6384659
And we can count on our hands how many were worth playing at all

>> No.6390663

>>6390654
The whole point of that image is that people took what he had and beat it without grinding. You're fucking retarded, commie. Die.

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6390668

>>6390436
>allows ff, talks shit about parasite eve or grandia
what a fucking retar-
>MGS2 is the only good game in the series.

>> No.6390684

>>6386654
>w-wait, let me move the goal posts first
lol

>> No.6390695

>>6390684
That's a perfectly reasonable exception to say, you biased fag.

>> No.6391086

>>6390663
And the whole point of my post was that grinding shouldn't exist in games because it enables shitplayers (e.g. your average lefty liberal) to experience the game on easy mode.

>> No.6391297

>>6390390
Not many. Even then, says a lot about how strong the install base was. Gamecube was dropped hard after the Wii.

>> No.6391306

>>6391086
You have no reason to bring up grinding, you unbelievable fucking moron. Your head is all fucking scrambled because you're a stupid commie who thinks that jews are good people.

>> No.6391309

>>6389451
No, you're just a retard making excuses.

>> No.6391315

>>6390174
This gargantuan level of seethe, wow.

>> No.6391324
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>>6391309

>> No.6391328

>>6384659
And only like 5 exclusive titles worth playing.

>> No.6391331

>>6391328
Surely you mean Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon, Goemon's Great Adventure, Bomberman 64, Sin and Punishment and Custom Robo V2, right anon?

>> No.6391332

>>6390174
Imagine doing this image.
Also most of the times the anti-Saturn shitposting comes from sony boys.

>> No.6391337

>>6391331
3/5 are spot on

>> No.6391340

>>6391331
>>6391337
Bomberman 64 is easily one of the best games ever created, so there's that.

>> No.6391342

>>6391328
Surely you mean Ogre Battle 64, Harvest Moon 64, Shiren 2, Wonder project J2 and SRW64, right anon?

>> No.6391347

>>6391342
>tryhard: the post

>> No.6391349

>>6391347
>no arguments: the cope

>> No.6391352

>>6391347
I dunno about the last 3, but OB64 and HM64 are absolute ludo, and I wouldn't hesitate to place them on my top 10 5th gen game list.

>> No.6391353

>>6391349
>cope
Thirteen year old: the faggot.

>> No.6391354

>>6391352
>ludo
Fuck off, you insufferable fucking faggot.

>> No.6391365

>>6391353
>>6391354
Go back to /v/, shitposter. Console warring is shamed on /vr/, even if you /v/ kids are all over the board, true /vr/eterans know that you are nothing but inexperience and memetic mindset.

>> No.6391367

>>6391324
>coping AND cringe reply
It's time to stop, bud.

>> No.6391370

>>6391353
Yes, we know what you are, anon.

>> No.6391372

>>6391365
He's saying "ludo" is a tryhard attempt at replacing "kino," retard.

>> No.6391374

>>6391372
They're both retarded, but yeah. This.

>> No.6391375
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>>6391374
>I know you are, but what am I?
Pathetic.

>> No.6391379

>>6391375
>anime faggotry

>> No.6391380

>>6391379
>not catching that I drunkenly quoted myself
wew

>> No.6391415

>>6386062
Get performance and replace the battery (has battery clip rather than soldered in)

>> No.6391428

Sonyfags are pathetic.

>> No.6391434

>>6391428
Vroom

>> No.6391457

>>6391434
>racing games are miles better on N64
Yes, and?

>> No.6391459

>>6386927
>100 memorable titles
Cope

>> No.6391475

>>6391457
That's not hard when racing games consist of 1/5 of the system's overall game library.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/n64/category/47-racing

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>>6391475
>agree that N64 is better to own the libs

>> No.6391494

>>6391490
Kill yourself with great prejudice.

>> No.6391509

>>6391434
>>6391457
lol, so this "vroom" thing is because a Sony fan is "making fun" of N64 having good racers?
Man, console warriors are weird.

>> No.6391519
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>>6391490
>own the libs
Wtf does this have to do with politics? Fuck the libs.
I'm pointing out how there's a huge lack of variety with the N64. There are less than 20 puzzle games on the system, yet there's also a chock full of throwaway sports games flooding it.

>> No.6391532

this thread is funny

>> No.6391536

>>6391519
Not that anon, but why are you so invested in console wars?

>> No.6391537

>>6391509
I guess. It's pretty sad how angry it's making them, too. >>6391494 >>6391519

>> No.6391550

>>6391537
>>6391536
Console wars? I'm just dissing the N64 because despite all of the system's major shortcomings, people are still willing to defend it. This is a system that had an entire add-on canned, bringing down dozens of games with it. It doesn't live up to the SFC, and the GCN did everything it did, but better. Adding the PlayStation into the situation just makes it look even more pitiful.

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>>6385803
>nintenyearolds are megaautists who are stuck in the past therefore nintendo wins

>> No.6391553

>>6384889
You dont control the narrative anon

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>>6391551
>>6391550
>entire thread created to obsessively seethe about N64's immense popularity and influence
>n-no u

>> No.6391563

>>6391550
Alright I understand what you say, but why do you need you need to "diss" it? I don't think people are "defending" it, people just enjoyed it, despite lacking in some genres.
Adding the PS into the situation just gives you a system that had incorrect 3D perspective with tons of shovelware and arcade ports that were worse than on Saturn, but you don't see N64 fans on PS threads remidning everyone that "PS has incorrect 3D perspective" every single time, or worse, make wojak memes about it.
You seem way too invested in all this console war shit, now with this vroom meme. Come on anon, grow up.

>> No.6391568

>>6391562
>Deflects my entire argument with meme buzzwords
OK vroomer.

>> No.6391569

>>6385981
>>6389109
Why is Doom 64 bad again?

>> No.6391573

>>6391568
Begging the question fallacy isn't an argument, seether.

>> No.6391582

>>6391550
You do sound like a console warrior though. A Sony one.
>doesn't live up to the SFC
Fair enough. No subsequent gens lived up to the Golden Age that was 4th gen anyway.
>and the GCN did everything it did, but better
I think many of the GCN sequels weren't as good as the N64 titles, even today I prefer the 64 titles, examples: Wave Race, 1080, Super Mario, Goemon (not gamecube, but the PS2 game sucked), Zelda, etc.
Anyway it's fine if you personally don't like the N64, but it having little RPGs or puzzle games isn't going to make people stop liking it, anon. And your vroomer memes really come off as /v/ console war stench.

>> No.6391613

The N64 had Mario 64 and OoT. You can say they're overrated all you want, but they are the best 3D games ever made, and they still haven't been improved upon. PSX can't claim that.

>> No.6391618

And I don't even give a single shit about console wars. That's just my observation as a gamer who enjoys every platform.

>> No.6391643

>>6391563
>I don't think people are "defending" it, people just enjoyed it, despite lacking in some genres.
People enjoyed the Sonic Adventure games too, and those recieve tons of criticism nowadays. Maybe because of how easy of a target Sonic is? Donkey Kong 64 also experiences similar retroactive distaste.

>Adding the PS into the situation just gives you a system that had incorrect 3D perspective with tons of shovelware and arcade ports that were worse than on Saturn,
You're right on the incorrect 3D and shovelware, but the N64 also had its fair share of shovelware too. Probably even more intensified with the smaller game library. As for arcade ports, I really can't think of any noteworthy N64 titles outside of Midway's offerings.

>you don't see N64 fans on PS threads remidning everyone that "PS has incorrect 3D perspective" every single time, or worse, make wojak memes about it.
See >>6384740. Facts and opinions are two different matters. Wojak memes are effortless to get a reaction out of, and I only added the words onto it. It isn't something you spend all day thinking about.

>You seem way too invested in all this console war shit, now with this vroom meme. Come on anon, grow up.
Don't forget, we're here forever. There is no growing up when there's always newfags constantly joining. Besides, every other website is worse.

>>6391582
>You do sound like a console warrior though. A Sony one.
OK, watch this. PC could have of thousands of Eurojank games, and it would still run laps around each of the 5th gen systems. Evaluating consoles is a numbers game regarding their game libraries.

>Anyway it's fine if you personally don't like the N64, but it having little RPGs or puzzle games isn't going to make people stop liking it, anon.
N64 was actually my first console (go figure because cartridges are childproof). It's far from the worst 5th gen console, but it definitely isn't without its faults. Same goes for the other 5th gen systems.

>> No.6391651

>>6391643
>Ok but what about PC
Constantly moving the goalposts when you get owned proves much of a salty faggot you are, salty faggot.

>> No.6391658

>>6391651
You're not worth my time, vroomer. Don't reply to me again.

>> No.6391664

>>6391643
>Wojak memes are effortless to get a reaction out of
Kind of pathetic to admit doing/using them, honestly.
At this point, what's your endgame? If we're here forever, wouldn't it be better if we make /vr/ at least not that similar to /v/?

>> No.6391670

>>6391664
No, /v/ is an absolute fucking shithole. It's the single worst board next to /tv/. /vr/ should do everything in its power to NOT be /v/.

>> No.6391674

>>6391670
Then you should avoid doing shitty console war memes with wojak anon.
It's fine if you want to voice your opinion on being angry that other people like the N64, but you can do it without the wojak.

>> No.6391678

>>6391674
I have literally never posted a wojak in my life, faggot.

>> No.6391679

>>6391678
Then you're not the anon I was replying to, nig.

>> No.6391681

>>6391679
Wow, what a fucking concept.

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>>6391664
Meh. At this point, every board has their fair share of shit. There's pretty much an invisible countdown until 6th gen and beyond become allowed to post on this board. People criticized the N64 back in its heyday, they criticize it now like I was just doing, and they're going to still criticize it 20 years from now. Perhaps more so as nostalgia for the system wanes overtime, and its flaws become even more glaring. Split-screen multiplayer was one of the huge appeals the N64 had, but as people become more antisocial, that aspect sadly becomes increasingly irrelevant.

>> No.6391710

>>6391697
>Meh. At this point, every board has their fair share of shit.
Nah, fuck you and your shitposting attitude.
>There's pretty much an invisible countdown until 6th gen and beyond become allowed to post on this board
Not surprised that you're one of the 6th gen beggars. /vr/ is for 20th century gaming only, and that's not going to change. If anything, the "invisible countdown" is for /v2k/ board to be made, but probably that won't happen either.
>bla bla people will stop liking the n64, it's just nostalgia
OK

>> No.6391714

>>6391697
>There's pretty much an invisible countdown until 6th gen and beyond become allowed to post on this board.
Nice headcanon, you stupid fucking thirteen year old, but it's never gonna happen.

>> No.6391715

>>6391697
So you're the guy who makes those tony hawk threads. You really are obsessed.

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>>6391714
>it's never gonna happen.
That's what they said before 5th gen & Dreamcast became allowed.
>>6391715
You don't like Tony Hawk? I've never made a thread on this board.

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>>6391658
You clearly have spent a lot of it seething. Don't forget that not only does N64 have the best racing games, but also the best console FPSs (Goldeneye, PD, Turok), the best action-adventures (OoT, Mario 64, BK, Goemons), dogfighting flight sims (Rogue Squadron, Star Fox), puzzle games (Pokemon Puzzle League, Tetrisphere), party games, sports games, and most long-lasting multiplayer. It's the most fondly-remembered 5th gen console for a reason. Get N or get out, fag.

>> No.6391732

>>6391728
>That's what they said before 5th gen & Dreamcast became allowed.
The rule was already 1999 and before. They just hesitated to include 5th gen at first because 3D gaming, but they had to include them to fit the pre-2000 criteria. Same thing with the Dreamcast, which was released in 1998.
It's not gonna happen. Better start mailing Hiro for the creation of /v2k/ like everyone else, zoom zoom.

>> No.6391737

>>6391728
>That's what they said before 5th gen & Dreamcast became allowed.
Dreamcast was always allowed, you dumb little nigger. You have no idea what you're talking about.

>> No.6391738

>>6391737
Nah, read: >>6391732
The Dreamcast wasn't allowed at first, and neither was 5th gen. But the rule was always clear that /vr/ was for pre-Y2K gaming.
The inclusion of 5th gen and DC was due to those being released before Y2K.

>> No.6391740

>>6391730
>Lists the same games every other vroomer has played to death.
If it's so fondly-remembered, why are people retroactively criticizing it in the first place? You wanna console war?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeOSWLGKuaE

>> No.6391741

>>6391738
>The inclusion of 5th gen and DC was due to those being released before Y2K.
Which is explicitly what 'retro' means in this context. Kill yourself.

>> No.6391745

Mental illness

>> No.6391749

>>6391740
>MUH SAME GAMES
How is this an argument? They're still better than piles of PS shit, and you must eventually accept that.

>> No.6391757

>>6391740
>why are people retroactively criticizing it in the first place?
Not him, but many people like to criticize things. I mean, for a vast majority of people, many older games aren't worth playing due to "having aged badly", this includes like all of the 3D games from 5th gen.
People retroactively criticizing things shouldn't be taken into account too seriously. A lot of them are also youtubers who make controversial videos as click bait. And zoomer eat that up.

>> No.6391759

>>6391749
And now you're retorting to quality>quantity.

>> No.6391760

>>6391741
>Which is explicitly what 'retro' means in this context. Kill yourself.
Hey man, don't @ at me. I'm just telling you that, indeed, DC was not allowed, even if it didn't fit the "pre-Y2K" rule criteria, since DC was released in 98. Because of that, it was allowed later. But the rest of 6th gen won't be allowed here, ever.

>> No.6391761

>>6391740
You're proving it's fondly-remembered by creating and contributing to a console war thread, and none of your anecdotal e-celeb retardation changes that.

>> No.6391762

>>6391760
>don't @ at me
Fuck off, you twatter-brained imbecile. You're not welcome here.

>> No.6391764

>>6391759
And? It's a valid argument, and it's the one that makes you seethe the most, because you're aware it's irrefutable.

>> No.6391767

>>6391762
lmao, anyway the thing is, rules aren't going to chance, unless someone can time-travel to the past and convince sony, ms and nintendo to release their 6th gen systems in 1999.

>> No.6391773

>>6391764
Ahem...
PlayStation has both
End of story.

>> No.6391775

>>6391767
I agree with you that pre-2K is permanent definition of retro, but the "don't @ me" thing was indeed kinda gay.

>> No.6391780

>>6391773
Good one, Snoomer haha. See >>6391730.

>> No.6391781

>>6391775
I did it in a kinda cheeky way. If it helps, it's the first time I ever did it. I use twitter, but I only use it to follow japanese video game developers and artists.

>> No.6391785

>>6391773
Thanks for confirming, once again, that you're a Sony fanboy.
Always the worst of the bunch.
I do wish 5th gen was never allowed on /vr/. The 16 bit console wars are just much more soulful. Sony fans are just NPC bots with 0 creativity at console wars. Best example in this thread is the sony fanboy posting wojak memes.

>> No.6391789

>>6391781
No, you did it because that's where your mentality lies. It's very simple.

>> No.6391794

>>6391780
>Snoomer
That's the best you can come up with, vroomer?

>>6391785
Without 5th gen, it'd just be nonstop Nintendo vs. SEGA.

I'm done.

>> No.6391803

>>6391794
>Without 5th gen, it'd just be nonstop Nintendo vs. SEGA.
I'd rather that. But also we'd have more room for 2nd gen and pinball threads.
>I'm done.
Bye /v/, don't forget to take your wojaks with you on your way out.

>> No.6391804

>>6391794
>I'm done, because I'm LITERALLY shaking thanks to you
Ok Snoomer lmao.

>> No.6391810

poorly coded emulators

>> No.6391828
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Nintendo 64. Not even once.

>> No.6391832

>>6391828
Fuck off, tourist.

>> No.6391843

snoomer's fooder and sooder

>> No.6391848

>>6391843
Put a bullet into your gray matter.

>> No.6391853

>>6391848
nah lol

>> No.6391861

>>6391853
Yes lmao.

>> No.6391871

>>6391832
232 posts prove him right

>> No.6391878

>>6391871
To be fair, a lot of those aren't even about N64, just about shitposting in general and /vr/ rules.
But yeah 5th gen shitposting was a mistake.

>> No.6391879

>>6391871
>>6391878
>my discord decided to raid you
Kill yourselves.

>> No.6391880

>>6391843
Didn't even think of that connection lmfao. Thanks anon.

>> No.6391882

>>6391880
Kill yourself.

>> No.6391885

>>6391882
Stay mad forever, snoomy.

>> No.6391893

>>6391885
Please stop destroying this website with your retarded buzzwords.

>> No.6391904

>>6391893
>no u
Kill yourself, PS fanboy.

>> No.6391910

>>6391904
Please stop destroying this website.

>> No.6391917

>>6391893
>>6391910
Not the anon you're replying to, but the first one to bring bad quality here was the sony fanboy using his "vroomer" meme.
Not defending the other anon though. Console wars are silly in general. Sony fans do prove to keep being the worst, though.

>> No.6391920

>>6384659
>two hundred ninety-six (296) individual titles with their own controls, graphics, characters, stories, and settings (including sports games)
Sounds perfect to me. Why would anyone ask for more?

>> No.6391930

>>6391917
>Sony fans do prove to keep being the worst, though
Kill yourself.

>> No.6391937

>>6391930
No thanks. But even if I killed ms, Sony fans would keep being the worst.

>> No.6391945

>>6391937
You're doing console wars even though you asserted you're above it. You're a cancerous faggot.

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>>6391930
>proving him right
Sasuga, Snoycel.

>> No.6391958

>>6391954
You need to fuck off, too.

>> No.6391963

>>6391958
Or what? You'll REEE louder?

>> No.6391967

>>6391963
What are you gaining by doing this?

>> No.6391979

>>6391945
I have nothing against Sony systems, only against Sony fanboys. They've proven to be the worst, you can see it in this very thread: a sony fanboy shamelessly admitting to using wojak memes "because it gets reactions", and not caring about board quality.

>> No.6391981

>>6391979
Do you know what a 'false flag' is?

>> No.6391982

>>6391967
Nintendo is paying me to get your (You)s.. It has nothing to do with you being an insufferable and insecure console warrior that backs out of fights he starts or anything.

>> No.6391986

>>6391982
Please die. You are just the worst kind of person.

>> No.6391990

>>6391986
>OMG you're a bad person!
snoyface.png

>> No.6391996

>>6391981
I love N64 and have no issues with people liking the PS. I think a lot of its games are cool, too. But you have to have never been talking to anyone else about games until now to not realize that there is a consistent and severe inferiority-complex problem with PS fanboys (not necessarily PS fans), hence this thread and the pic here >>6391828.

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>>6386075
>memory paks
>not memory cards
>not controller paks

>> No.6392052

>>6391996
So yes, you don't know what a false flag is.

>> No.6392276

>>6392052
I'm a different anon than than the one you replied to there. What I'm saying is that at least some of the posters in this thread are obviously not false flags. OP, very possibly.

>> No.6392438

>>6391732
>zoom zoom
i'm right in the middle of millenial and most of the time i spent playing video games was in the 2000's

>> No.6393284

>>6384659
It was just so hard to port games between this and ps1 or n64 to ps1. Ps1 to saturn was easier.
To port a game decently you would have to break up the polygons in a completely different way which would take absolutly ages. Ps1 with little polygons that get bigger when you move away and n64 with big stretched out polygons that stay the same.

I just can't imagine what a pain it would be to port goldeneye to ps1 where as tombraider 2 would not end up good because it would have to have the small polygons combined and the textures changed. When you make a game on each console it causes you to design it a certain way. This is my understand to when nfs didn't come to n64 but instead bettle adventure racing was made.

A late game rainbow 6 was able to replicate the pc pretty well.

>> No.6393367

>>6384678
yeah.

>> No.6393412

>>6393367
The unga bunga part? Definitely.

>> No.6393472

>>6384659
And under 10 of those games uses the 64MB size cartridge. And I'm being nice saying that. The rest of the games were 40MB and under. And the N64 is in the top rank for one of the most difficult systems to make video games on next to the Sega Saturn and PS3. Most of the games ended up missing shit that we used to see in the magazines. Can't make that up.

>> No.6393478

>>6393472
>>/vr/?task=search&ghost=&search_text=64MB
Boy, you sure seem invested into shitposting.

>> No.6393485

>>6393478
Yup, invested in giving my honest opinion? What's your investment other than poor judgement?

>> No.6393487

>>6393485
You seem way too triggered by the N64, it's just funny. I noticed you kept repeating the 64MB thing over and over.
Go and play some video games for once anon, stop shitposting a thread of a console you don't enjoy.

>> No.6393489

>>6393478
Is a system being difficult to work on hitting you in the feels enough to put out a link of my comments? Clearly bub.

>> No.6393496

>>6393489
Nah, I'm not a video game developer of the 90s.
Again, I just noticed you kept repeating the same 64MB thing. n64 is rent free inside of your mind.

>> No.6393497

>>6393487
I just finished playing Sin and Punishment so a bit ahead on you there. Own every Nintendo and Sega system out there. So what's next? Lol

>> No.6393503

>>6393497
Post a time stamped pic of your N64 with Sin and Punishment and I'll let you win this one.

>> No.6393506

>>6393472
There are three games in the N64's library that are 64MB: Conker's Bad Fur Day, Pokemon Stadium 2 and Resident Evil 2. There are two games that are 40MB: Ogre Battle 64 and Paper Mario. Big name AAA games like Ocarina of Time, Majora's Mask and Turok 2 are 32MB. Mid tier games are 16MB and cheap games are 8MB. Some shovelware titles are as small as 4MB. Now you know.

>> No.6393508

>>6393496
Videogames live rent free inside of my head? Punchline failure.

>> No.6393509

>>6393506
How many MB is Bomberman 64? That's my favorite game on the system.

>> No.6393512

PS1 sucks.

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>>6393508
When people say "rent free" it means that you have something you dislike being constantly inside of your mind. You're evidently angry about people liking the N64, yet you can't stop thinking and posting about it. You've been posting about it all day yesterday, and still going today.

>> No.6393515

>>6393512
It's the least interesting of the 5th gen systems (mediocre 2D and mediocre 3D), but still has a lot of good games. PS1 fanboys suck though.

>> No.6393518

>>6393503
No, I'm not posting another pic of my everdrive 64. Go check that timestamp link of mines that you've been stalking.

>> No.6393520
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>>6393509
8MB.

>> No.6393524

>>6393513
I've been criticizing everything that I've invested in. What's wrong with that? Y'all thinking that I'm losing sleep over these convos. Lol, it ain't even that serious.

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>>6393518
LOL
I wasn't stalking you, I just typed "64MB", which didn't retrieve any timestamped pic.
But it's OK, I knew you were bullshitting anyway.

>> No.6393532

>>6393520
Based.
The amount of MB means shit, I'd rather play Bomberman over shit like Turok any day.

>> No.6393538

>>6393528
Glad that you follow the "don't believe everything that you see on the internet" rule. What's posting a pic of a piece from the manual do? Good for you having a original copy I guess. Lol

>> No.6393548

>>6393532
I never got the turok hype at all neither. Hope saying that doesn't rub you the wrong way.

>> No.6393568
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>>6393538
>What's posting a pic of a piece from the manual do?
Oh, that pic? Sadly it isn't mine. Someone else posted it years ago and I saved it. It's from a guide book, not from the game manual. Here's another one.

>> No.6393592

>>6393548
I got the first Turok back in the day. It isn't a bad game, I like the concept and the dinos, but I was never a fan of platforming in FPS games.

>> No.6393594
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>>6393568
Oh ok gotcha, I don't own the game myself aside from the Everdrive cartridge on N64 and to be honest, this link is what began my whole "64MB" talk. I've always been curious about seeing prototype and beta version of games https://youtu.be/-qvPsfhTIN4

>> No.6393780

>>6384659
N64 was the first line of consoles that became a failure. N64 and Gamecube. Then they got desperate and reused Gamecube guts and refitted it as a "Wii" console.

>> No.6393861

>>6393780
>failure
Not really, although Nintendo (and Sega) lost market share, N64 still did more profit for Nintendo than the PS1 did to Sony or the Saturn to Sega.

>> No.6396964

https://cdromance.com/gamecube/

>Gamecube has 7 pages for games

https://cdromance.com/ps2-iso/

>PS2 is 84 pages

>> No.6397831

>>6393861
Nintendo dominated the American NPD charts in software sales in 97 (GoldenEye), 98 (Ocarina Of Time) and 1999 (Donkey Kong 64) and the N64 has one of the all time best attach rates with software to hardware for any console. Nintendo were pretty loaded after that generation because their software sales were generally excellent, even including 3rd parties like Acclaim. Gamecube was a complete mess though because their internal development hit rough patches, they had to outsource like crazy (Arguably the best Nintendo game on Gamecube was made by Sega, even) and 3rd party simply didn't catch on because you'd just get the middle ground version of a game versus the more accessible but slightly worse performing PS2 version or the best performing and usually more feature packed Xbox version. Also the quasi-exclusivity of the "Dream Team" just died including Acclaim who's game quality just nose dived off a fucking cliff

>> No.6397989

>>6385803
Brand loyalty. That's it.

>> No.6397990

>>6391794
Sony killed Sega.
I dont get why PS1tards like to rub in (just because a console sold more doesnt mean its "better", btw). when all the Sega fans went to PS1 and Saturn died. The kind of more "mature" (really just pretentious teenies, but whatever) audience went to Sony and stayed there.

So yeah, gloat all you want but your favored console franchise killed off Sega. And its ironic because Sonyfags were Sega fanboys in 4th gen. You are celebrating your own thing getting put out of business, lol..

>> No.6397996

>>6397990
>And its ironic because Sonyfags were Sega fanboys in 4th gen.
I was a Sega fan on 4th gen and never went to Sony. I actually got a Gamecube after Dreamcast died.

>> No.6398041

>>6397996
fair enough. I just mean that wannabe-mature audience went to sony for the "adult" games. The thing you constantly heard in 5th and 6th gen was that Nintendo is "kiddy". Ironically this is how Sega also attacked Nintendo during 4th gen.
What I am saying is N64 didnt do as well as SNES , but PS1 basically killed Saturn because that audience- - CD based console, more mature games - Anyone But Nintendo types too - went for PS1. They more or less stayed there because Dreamcast flunked too and Sega went out of [console] business.

They gloat as if they put Nintendo out of business though, its weird.
Besides why would anyone even care about this, are they shareholders or something, lol
I think its sad Sega went out of console business, my first console was a Master System II. Cant see why anyone would gloat about this. Its probably some kind of mental illness.

>> No.6398091

>>6398041
I think the whole sega vs nintendo thing was more prevalent in USA than anywhere else.
In my country, kids would just want to play any video games, there weren't brand wars.
I think console wars became more of a thing during online times, and the real rise of the so-called "sonygger" was between 6th and 7th gen. So it's natural they'll attack Nintendo, since it's a japanese brand that also gets the kind of games Sony fans wants (at least the weeb breed of Sony fans, not the Uncharted type of fans), and they naturally have no idea about Sega in the console market. Many sony fanboys are kids who grew up with a PS2 or a PS3, so they have no idea about Sega systems.

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>>6398091
No, the Sega vs nintendo ad campaigns were if anything even stronger in UK than in USA. I dont know about central europe, it wasnt a big market then anyway. But yeah Sega went all-out attack in 4th gen, especially in the UK. Very central to that was the idea they were more "adult"
>pic related, a Mega Drive advert attacking SNES smaller library. Ironically, PS1 fans make this exact same argument.
They also make the "mature content" argument, too.

I guess you could try and psychoanalyze this as some kind of male penis size "measuring" contest - I dont know, but certainly the kind of teenage boy who wants to seem older than he is is a key demographic for Mega Drive and for PS1. The "measuring up" thing is uncanny.

So I think its more a case that :
PS1 created new fans that were not previously console owners (the type of guys who mocked gamers in 4th gen probably)
And many Potential Sega Saturn fans went to PS1 , because it was a better console basically.

The weird gloating about nintendo when its Sega they beat is weird.

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>>6398163
>It should be pointed out for posterity that Sega Genesis had been out for about 2 years at the time of that advert (3 years in Japan) and SNES had only just newly released in North America at the time of this ad.

Taken from Mega Drive wikipedia entry:
As you can see, Sega went for the "cool" "Eat my shorts" "Bart Simpson" rebellious 90s 12 year olds, very similar to PlayStation brand demographic.

What I am saying is PlayStation beat Sega at its own game, and yet PS1 fans gloat about "winning" (whatever that actually means) 5th gen, despite the fact their own "side" is what "lost"

(Nintendo are very much playing THEIR own game - remember a lot of the stuff westerners call "kiddy" is just seen as funny or irreverent in Japan - e.g. FPS, as a genre, is not big in Japan and is basically entirely Western.)

>> No.6398212

>>6391730
>>6391697
Good posts. People seem to forget local-multiplayer was a thing. It was a pretty big selling point, too. Loads of games even crammed in last-minute multiplayer modes just to boast on the box it had the feature.
Like good single-player Story modes, it has become a thing of the past.

Also yes theres some genres N64 was lacking in but then some (pretty niche) genres it ruled in, even if it was only one game, it was usually a must-have, 9 or 10/10 game with lots of replay value.

>> No.6398581

>>6398206
>FPS, as a genre, is not big in Japan and is basically entirely Western
And yet, despite this, it is universally-agreed that N64 still has the best FPSs.

>> No.6398585

>>6397989
Cope more, PlayStation brand loyalist.

>> No.6398592

>>6397996
Same, though I missed out on Saturn (didn't know it existed until way too late) and got an N64 and Dreamcast later.

>> No.6398605

>>6398581
Not a surprise, N64 did well in the west, particularly in north america, its strongest region by sales.
Just because the console itself is Japanese doesnt mean japs make all its games, the FPSs are all from western developers.

>> No.6398609

>>6393524
>much cope
>y'all
Back to Twitta, nigga.

>> No.6398626

>>6398605
Right, I'm saying that N64 is beyond being a "very Japanese" console.

>> No.6398641

>>6398626
Well its ironic I guess that one of its main selling points is games made by 3rd party ("2nd party" if youre being picky) devs, when "no third party!!!" is often a criticism laid at N64.

But what I mean is the "kiddy" nature of Nintendo more generally is certainly very Japanese. Just look at what N64 games sold well in japan compared to here. Or just generally what games they like compared to us

>> No.6398674

>>6391569
Its not, its pretty great but playing it with N64 controls is horrible at best.

>> No.6398697

>>6398609
Ok wytey

>> No.6398704

>>6398641
>when "no third party!!!" is often a criticism laid at N64
Agreed. This is just a rephrasing of the main PS1 fanboy argument against it: "muh quantity".
>But what I mean is the "kiddy" nature of Nintendo more generally is certainly very Japanese
Right, agreed. Also, Miyamoto recently said they weren't going for "kiddy" but for "peace of mind" (aka, family, hence "Family Computer"). That's one reason why their games are better remembered by most. The "non-kiddy" games of most systems are played by niche audiences in Japan (including most shmups and RPGs) and of course in the West. But my point is that, yes, true, the family-friendly aspect is typical of a lot of Japanese media.

>> No.6398710

>>6398704
*a disingenuous rephrasing

>> No.6398761
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>>6398704
the kiddy thing really ramped up in 6th gen with Gamecube. It was purple, the big green A button seemed to trigger a lot of people, the way how catalogues would always list its main feature as its "portability" (due to the handle).... It was absolutely constant, especially as PS2 prided itself on GTA, Metal Gear Solid 2/3, Silent Hill and so on.
The kiddy thing was certainly evident for N64 too and yet, pic related, ps1, which IMO looks more "toy-like" than the N64. Maybe its the grey, maybe its the prominence of the colorful stylised PS logo (muted down on the PS2 and PS3 and now blended in and monochrome on PS4.) but the PS1 is toy-like to me and yet nobody really beat on it for that. Even the name - PLAY-station sounds literally like a TOMY or Fisher Price thing.

I personally dont mind either way. What I will say is the older I get the less interested I am in "mature" content and the more drawn I am to wholesome, "pre-watershed"-type games. Strangely enough.

In fact, I dont really give a shit about games anymore, full stop. I do keep an eye on what Nintendo is up to though, but I honestly think Switch is just not very good. But fair play to them for trying something different and for keeping kids entertained with something while the world burns and the videogame industry crashes

>> No.6398789

>>6398761
Yeah, I don't remember the "kiddy" insult until GC, either.
>Even the name - PLAY-station sounds literally like a TOMY or Fisher Price thing
I have long thought this, too. It probably worked in Japan just fine (because of the exoticness of English words, there), but I can only guess it's not lambasted in the West for this naming simply due to nostalgia and semantic saturation.
>I honestly think Switch is just not very good
Fucking this, and I've been buying most of their first-party catalogue from the GC days throughout the wii U days. Switch (mostly) feels like they're giving up on innovating (RIP Iwata). I got a pre-Mariko model last year in the hopes of having an all-in-one rom machine, but it's mostly just a YouTube machine for me, with the occasional F2P game like Asphalt 9.

>> No.6399004
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Chink flashcart any good?

>> No.6399148

>>6399004
Don't give money to "people" who infect you, anon.

>> No.6399316

>>6396964
>Chinese slums are better than living in a mansion because they have more people
The level of nygger cope, I tell ya.

>> No.6399935

>>6385803
>More people are nostalgic for the N64 than the PS1, same with the GCN v PS2
it's literally just a vocal minority of trannies.
Speedrunning is only a thing because these degenerate N64fags only had 2 games to play on their shitboxes so they replayed them over and over, losing their sanity and heterosexuality every time they had to go through the kokiri forest.

>> No.6400249

>>6398789
youtube on switch would be maxed at 720p. Which would be annoying for some things.
I am also not impressed with Swtichs memory, battery life, and the initial price was very high and line up of games was poor - was it 3 games? Zelda, 1-2 Switch and a remake of Bomberman? 1-2 Switc is like a demo, it should have been packaged with console. And the last good Zelda game was Wind Waker. Wii launched with a Zelda game, too. Its like "Oh its Zelda, I member Ocarina!!" Zelda always gets a gold box and a gold cart/disc so we all assume "well Ocarina was a 10/10 game...." so therefore Twilight Princess, Skyward Sword and Breath of Wild will be, too! BotW is possibly the most overrated game ever.

Listen I want Nintendo to keep doing well but their recent output just isnt very good. Too many re-releases, as well.
Idiots here rip on N64 - like, wtf, N64 is good-nintendo. Current year nintendo is what I would criticize.

>> No.6401881

>>6400249
i seriously keep forgetting skyward sword even exists

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>>6399935
speedrunning basically started with Quake, though

>> No.6401932

>>6384659
name one console with more than 50 truly great games.

>> No.6401951

>>6401932
PlayStation

you can even find top 100 game lists for it

>> No.6401954

>>6401951
>shovelware: the system
yeah, no.

>> No.6401959

>>6401932
SNES

>> No.6401967

>>6401954
the playstation has plenty of shovelware, and good games, it's got everything

i don't like sounding like a fanboy, but come on, have you seen the playstations' library?

>> No.6401991

>>6401932
This really isn't that hard.
NES
SNES
Game Boy
Game Boy Color
Genesis
Saturn
Dreamcast
PC-Engine
PC-98
Commodore 64
Amiga

And last, but most certainly not least
PlayStation

>> No.6401996

>>6401967
the ps1 library has no truly 10/10 games, just 90% shovelware and 10% mediocrity which sonyfags overrate.

>> No.6402009

>>6401996
And the N64 only has what it's fans desperately try to prop up as 10/10 games.

Yes it has good games, but they're no more amazing than the best PS1 and Saturn games really. The truth is that there's so little worth playing in the already small N64 library that the good stuff stands out more.

>> No.6402079

>>6401991
Nothing to disagree with here

>> No.6402096

>>6385803
>More people are nostalgic for the N64 than the PS1, same with the GCN v PS2
This is because the player base of those games were disproportionately children, and thus you end up with millennials and zoomers having intense childhood nostalgia for those consoles

>> No.6402134

>>6401991
You "forgot" N64.

>> No.6402150

>>6402134
Name them.

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>>6402134
I also "forgot" the Master System and Game Gear. Maybe if I combined the two systems together and added on the Brazilian library, then I'd count that. Either way, fanboys of those two systems aren't complaining.

>> No.6402175

>>6399935
>some of the highest rated and most loved (ie, still played and enjoyed) games
>just a vocal minority of trannies
>j-just people from the same time period as PlayStation's
Cope and dil8.

>>6401967
>Yeah, PlayStation is mostly shovelware, but have you seen how much shovelware it has?

>>6402009
>Yes it has good games, but they're no more amazing than the best PS1 and Saturn games really
Again, that's blatantly false. See >>6391730.

>> No.6402176

>>6402175
>Again, that's blatantly false. See >>6391730.
that's funny

>> No.6402190

>>6402150
Name all 50 from each of those listed consoles, scroll up, or just keep seething.

>>6402163
>my best friends (right guys??) that love those two systems aren't complaining
Trying to co-opt other fanbases to '"your side" just exemplifies your inferiority complex, Snoycel.

>> No.6402196

>>6402176
I agree, since it reveals how much you wish PS1 was like N64.

>> No.6402208

>>6402163
>Saturn: 9.26 million units sold
>Nintendo 64: 32.93 million units sold
Why is Saturn in 2nd place in your meme, again?

>> No.6402212

>>6402175
>Again, that's blatantly false. See >>6391730.

That post is just fanboy rambling. Can you actually articulate what makes those games better than comparable PS1 and Saturn games.

What about those N64 racers are better than the likes of Sega Rally? Ridge Racer Type 4? Gran Turismo? Daytona? Outrun? Power Drift? Wipeout? Need for Speed?

What about those puzzle games is better than Super Puzzle Fighter 2? Baku Baku? Bust-A-Move?

What about Those FPSes is better than Powerslave? Quake? Duke 3D? Doom? Hexen?

What about those action adventures is better than say Metal Gear Solid? Soul Reaver? Croc? Crash? Spyro? Tomb Raider?

What about those flight games are better than say Panzer Dragoon? Wing Arms? Bulk Slash? Warhawk? Ace Combat? After Burner? Galaxy Force?

What about N64 EA sports games is better than Saturn and PS1 EA Sports games?

What about N64 Party games is better than say Saturn Bomberman? Vatlva?

What about N64 Multiplayer games is better than Saturn and PS1 multiplayer games?

Or is it that you only know N64 games and have barely glanced at the PS1 and Saturn libraries?

>> No.6402215

>>6402208

Because it's library is still bigger with more to offer than the N64.

>> No.6402226

>>6402215
that's the benefit of having Japanese developers on board.

>> No.6402229

>>6402208
2nd in Japan, 2nd in game library.
>Japan doesn't matter.
>Quality>quantity. Shovelware Saturn!

>> No.6402254

>>6402212
Not only does the reddit spacing reveal your deep-seated fanboy desperation, but almost all of those you listed are retreadings of games genres done countless times. The genericisms are heavily characteristic of PS1. I'm going to answer only one of your reaching questions, as you continue to explain away any criticism of PS1 and any positive statement about N64 (just look up the "top N64 games" or "top games of all time" for to answer most of your questions).
>Saturn Bomberman
Not on PS1, and a 10-player version of the exact same Bomberman formula done a million times before. Bomberman 64 at least innovated upon the multiplayer formula slightly, and also is one of the first good singleplayer Bomberman games.

>That post is just fanboy rambling
Projection? It laid out what games are in the best of each category mentioned, yet you've spent your spent ten plus posts assuring everyone "PS1 is the best" because "you agree with me, right?!"

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>>6402212

>> No.6402264

>>6402254
>Bomberman 64 at least innovated upon the multiplayer formula slightly
Saturn Bomberman Fight was better.

>> No.6402268

>>6402215
>>6402229
But it still got third place, objectively-speaking rather than based on your personal feelings about it. If you're claiming "but what about Japan?", you're (desperately) shifting the goalposts.

>> No.6402281

>>6402254
>reddit spacing.
This is the new "I was going to reply to your argument but I see you made a typo." isn't it?

> The genericisms are heavily characteristic of PS1.
>as you continue to explain away any criticism of PS1 and any positive statement about N64

What do you call most of those N64 games? And are you not just "explaining away" criticisms of the N64 and any positive statement about the PS1 or Saturn?

>Not on PS1
If you read more carefully, you'd have seen I said PS1 AND Saturn. Secondly who cares if Saturn Bomberman follows the tried and true formula? It's still a great 10 player multiplayer experience. But if it must be unique and different then how about Saturn Bomberman Fight? What about Vatlva? Guardian Heroes? Street Racer?

>> No.6402320

>>6402281
>This is the new "I was going to reply to your argument but I see you made a typo." isn't it?
It's the same "indicative of insecurity."
>What do you call most of those N64 games?
Fun and high quality?
>And are you not just "explaining away" criticisms of the N64 and any positive statement about the PS1 or Saturn?
From the first post in this thread, you've only stated NUMBERS GOOD. What am else did you want me to critique?
>If you read more carefully, you'd have seen I said PS1 AND Saturn
Oh, I know what you said, and the point is that you're bringing up the Saturn to try to distract from PS1's weaknesses.
>Secondly who cares
Thanks for conceding that it's not as good. Still not on PS1, either.
>But if it must be unique and different then how about Saturn Bomberman Fight?
I'm honestly unfamiliar with this game, so I don't know. Not a PS1 game, though.
>Guardian Heroes
Not on PS1. Great game, though. One of Saturn's best multiplayer experiences, but mostly just by the niche of people who played it, like you and me.
>Vatlva
Don't know about this game, but it's not on PS1.
>Street Racer
This is a multiplat and is extremely generic. This is one of your best examples?
Next you'll linger on my statements that I don't know a couple of those games, even though that has nothing to do with the fact that Nintendo 64 is the most loved 5th gen console.

>> No.6402360

>>6402320
>From the first post in this thread, you've only stated NUMBERS GOOD.
No, I'm saying having a more well rounded library is good.
>Oh, I know what you said, and the point is that you're bringing up the Saturn to try to distract from PS1's weaknesses.
No, I brought up Saturn because it too has a better library than the N64, and it's personally my favorite console of that Generation.
>Thanks for conceding that it's not as good.
Didn't say that. I said it's a good multiplayer experience that the N64 doesn't have. Not everything has to be "OMG SUPER CRAZY UNIQUE!" to be good.
>Not on PS1
So what? From my first post in here I was talking about both Saturn and PS1.
>This is a multiplat and is extremely generic. This is one of your best examples?
Does the N64 have an 8 player racing game?
>Nintendo 64 is the most loved 5th gen console.
Only with autistic retards who only had an N64 as their first console and know nothing about the PS1 or Saturn.

How about we try this instead? Name 10 good games on the N64 in each of the following categories?

Racing
Fighting
RPG
Action Adventure/Platforming
Shooter (First or Third Person is fine)
Rail Shooters/Flight
Shumps
Beat'em Up
Arcade Ports
2D Games
Other

You cannot use a game more than once. So you can't put Zelda in both RPG and Action Adventure for example.

>> No.6402386

>>6402360
>No, I'm saying having a more well rounded library is good.
No, that's exactly what you've been arguing against this whole time.
>Didn't say that. I said it's a good multiplayer experience that the N64 doesn't have. Not everything has to be "OMG SUPER CRAZY UNIQUE!" to be good.
Again, you're ignoring that most of them are still not as good as on N64.
>Does the N64 have an 8 player racing game?
NUMBER GOOD
>Only with autistic retards
Stay salty. You're autistic enough to have made a console warrior thread about how inferior the N64 makes you feel.
>How about we try this instead? Name 10 good games on the N64 in each of the following categories?
NUMBER GOOD. That post I referenced above stated which N64 games are the best of all time for a particular genre.

>> No.6402406

>>6385803
>by the PS3 they also beat Nintendo in hardware specs
nice try sidestepping the fact that PS3 played catchup for most of the generation while the Wii sold gangbusters
what a fag.

>> No.6402412

>>6402406
>Wii sold gangbusters
Kinda, only for a few years. Half way through the sales dropped off a cliff and basically none of the good games sold. Tons of devs went out of business who bet on the Wii too.

>> No.6402419

>>6402386
>No, that's exactly what you've been arguing against this whole time.
No, I haven't been saying that. My first post in this thread was this >>6402009
My argument was that all the systems have good games. The only numbers argument I've been making is in regards to having a more well rounded library.
>Again, you're ignoring that most of them are still not as good as on N64.
By what metric? I asked you to articulate this a while back and you've yet to do it.
>NUMBER GOOD
For multiplayer yes. The more people that can play the more fun you can have. Isn't this the logic behind the "muh 4 controller ports" argument?
>Stay salty. You're autistic enough to have made a console warrior thread about how inferior the N64 makes you feel.
I didn't make this thread. I just find N64 fanboys annoying as most of them haven't even touched a PS1 or Saturn, let alone played the good games they have to offer.
>NUMBER GOOD. That post I referenced above stated which N64 games are the best of all time for a particular genre.
The post you referenced only listed a handful of titles for a few genres. Some didn't even have examples. That's just showing personal taste, not a metric of where the library is strong and weak. The metric I'm asking for will give a better picture of the libraries strong points and weak points which gives a better idea of who the system appeals to.

Now, can you name 10 games in each of those genres or not?

>> No.6402460

>>6402419
>No, I haven't been saying that. My first post in this thread was this >>6402009 #
My argument was that all the systems have good games. The only numbers argument I've been making is in regards to having a more well rounded library.
It's already been established that the PS1 has a lot of shovelware. Saturn has many niche games and a few universally-regarded games. How is this well-rounded? N64 has some of the greatest games of all time and it has some decent games. It has very few outright bad games, making it a well-rounded library.
>By what metric? I asked you to articulate this a while back and you've yet to do it
I've already noted that they're either highest rated in a particular genre or generally still played more than any other game in a particular genre.
>For multiplayer yes. The more people that can play the more fun you can have
Not necessarily. A shit or mediocre game that allows a lot of players doesn't automatically increase in quality.
>I just find N64 fanboys annoying as most of them haven't even touched a PS1 or Saturn, let alone played the good games they have to offer.
That's a stark generalization, and you're continuing to prove the point that N64 has games that make playing other systems seem unnecessary. It's supporting the Virgin PS1 fan vs. Chad N64 fan thing above.
>The post you referenced only listed a handful of titles for a few genres
That post says that those games are the best of those categories, ergo, a particular quantity is unnecessary to list.
>That's just showing personal taste, not a metric of where the library is strong and weak
Not necessarily. It is consistent with the "quality and legacy" argument for the N64, regardless of personal taste.
>Now, can you name 10 games in each of those genres or not?
I might be able to, but this is a loaded question that hinges, once again, on number good. Scroll up to see more games listed.

>> No.6402491

>>6391730
>It's the most fondly-remembered 5th gen console
... by a very small number of people
i agree they love the shit out of the N64... but there's not too many of them

i like the n64, it has a few good games, but come the fuck on, you aren't fooling anyone

>> No.6402501

>>6402460
>It's already been established that the PS1 has a lot of shovelware.
This is blanket statement logic from someone who's never touched a PS1 or Saturn. Does PS1 have a lot of shovelware? Sure, as does the highest selling system of each generation. It also has a lot of good games across a wide range of genres. Just because you don't know about them and have never played them doesn't make this not true.
>I've already noted that they're either highest rated
Since when do we care about review scores? Now, articulate in your own words what makes those games better than similar titles on the PS1 and Saturn.
> A shit or mediocre game
Sure, but none of the games I listed fall into that category. And again this is the same argument as "muh 4 controller ports."
>That's a stark generalization
No, it's just pointing out that N64 fanboys are narrow minded simpletons who are too blinded by their own nostalgia and bias to try anything on the PS1 or Saturn.
>That post says that those games are the best
Ok, what if I beat those 1 or 2 games and want to play another similar game? Again best by what metric? And what about the ones that listed no examples?
>Not necessarily.
No, it's just showing personal taste of a lot of N64 fanboys who grew up with only an N64 and never touched a PS1 or Saturn.
>I might be able to, but this is a loaded question that hinges, once again, on number good. Scroll up to see more games listed.
It's not a loaded question. It's a valid question to show how well rounded the library is. Some of those are genres the PS1 and Saturn would struggle in.

Now, can you name 10 good games in each of those genres or not?

>> No.6402502

>>6402491
>by a very small number of people. i agree they love the shit out of the N64... but there's not too many of them
There's no such enthusiasm for any PS1 game except FFVII and perhaps a few others like Spyro. Saturn has even less of this. Your revisionist cope is not fooling anyone.

>> No.6402504

>>6402502
>Your revisionist cope is not fooling anyone.
ironic

>> No.6402505

>>6402502
Saturn enthusiasm is low because it failed in the west and many people don't know about it or think it's the Sega CD or 32X. However over the past decade or so that has started to change as more people become aware of what it has to offer thanks to the internet.

And PS1 enthusiasm is definitely there. It's there for Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy, Resident Evil, Spyro, Crash, Tony Hawk, Tekken, Ridge Racer, Gran Turismo, etc.

>> No.6402520

>>6402501
>This is blanket statement logic from someone who's never touched a PS1 or Saturn.
Answered by,
>Does PS1 have a lot of shovelware? Sure

>Since when do we care about review scores?
Since when do we care about numbers sold or amount of games in a library? Read the OP.
>No, it's just pointing out that N64 fanboys are narrow minded simpletons who are too blinded by their own nostalgia and bias to try anything on the PS1 or Saturn
Seethe elsewhere, faggot.
>Ok, what if I beat those 1 or 2 games and want to play another similar game?
That doesn't mean either of those 1 or 2 games you beat aren't the best in their genre.
>No, it's just showing personal taste of a lot of N64 fanboys who grew up with only an N64 and never touched a PS1 or Saturn
Again, it isn't. You're begging the question.
>It's not a loaded question. It's a valid loaded question.
Again, your numbers good argument is invalid, so I'm not going to respond to it again.

>> No.6402526

>>6402505
>Saturn enthusiasm is low because
So you're agreeing with my claim.

>> No.6402532

>>6402504
You're misusing ironic.

>> No.6402534

>>6402526
one dimensional thinking

>> No.6402538

>>6402520
>Answered by,
And you confirmed you're a narrowminded fanboy by skipping this part:
> Sure, as does the highest selling system of each generation. It also has a lot of good games across a wide range of genres. Just because you don't know about them and have never played them doesn't make this not true.

>Since when do we care about numbers sold or amount of games in a library? Read the OP.
Total sold I don't care about. If I did I wouldn't be bringing up the Saturn. Total amount of games is nice though as it usually means there's a good representation of more genres. Which means a more well rounded library.
>Seethe elsewhere, faggot.
Go try a PS1 or Saturn before you bash it fanboy. You might actually like them.
>That doesn't mean either of those 1 or 2 games you beat aren't the best in their genre.
Doesn't prove it either, it just means they're the best 1 or 2 on the system. You've yet to explain why these games are better than similar ones on PS1 or Saturn.
>You're begging the question.
So are you when it comes to the PS1 and Saturn.
>Again, your numbers good argument is invalid, so I'm not going to respond to it again.
So you can't name 10 good games in each genre then? So you agree then that the N64 has a lopsided library with giant holes and some genres completely absent altogether?

>>6402526
Enthusiasm only proves fanboyism and nostalgia.

>> No.6402539

>>6391340
Damn it Zach I told you to stay off the Latvian orthodox liturgical forums.

>> No.6402556
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who else lurks these kind of threads just to watch spergs fighting each others about their fav consoles?

>> No.6402574

>>6402538
>I can't answer anything you said, so you're fanboy
This console warrior you're pulling is pure fanboyism.
>Go try a PS1 or Saturn before you bash it fanboy. You might actually like them.
I like them both already. My favorite PS1 games are probably Megaman Legend Legend of Dragoon, and Policenauts. I've wanted to play more Saturn for decades, but emulation has been bad for it for a long time, so I've only played a handful of games for it on other systems. You're breaking down.
>Doesn't prove it either
Doesn't have to. You were saying they were bad because "what about OTHER games?"
>So are you when it comes to the PS1 and Saturn.
No u.
>So you can't name 10 good games in each genre then? So you agree then that the N64 has a lopsided library with giant holes and some genres completely absent altogether?
I didn't say I couldn't, and your argument is still very reaching and desperate.
>Enthusiasm only proves fanboyism and nostalgia
Console warring proves that, hence your posts and this thread. Liking a game doesn't necessarily make you a defender of it, unless you're a PlayStation fanboy, who can't go 5 minutes without wanting to show off his e-peen.

>>6402534
Salt

>> No.6402576

>>6402574
this entire post is desperation

>> No.6402585

>>6402576
This post is projection.

>> No.6402587

>>6402585
You're breaking down.

>> No.6402592

>>6402587
You're parroting other posts.

>> No.6402603

>>6402592
No u.

>> No.6402604

>>6402574
>This console warrior you're pulling is pure fanboyism.
And your N64 console warring isn't?
>Doesn't have to. You were saying they were bad because "what about OTHER games?"
I didn't say they were bad. I simply asked what makes them better than similar games on PS1 and Saturn? I also asked what else is there to play when I finish those games?
>but emulation has been bad for it for a long time
Saturn emulation has been good enough for a long time. And if you've been wanting to play one for decades you had the perfect opportunity to get into it about 10-15 years ago.
>No u.
If you don't like having your own argument style thrown back at you then don't use it.
>I didn't say I couldn't, and your argument is still very reaching and desperate.
No, it's simply asking if you can name 10 games in each genre. It's basically an exercise to get you to realize why some people may prefer the PS1 or Saturn over the N64. It may help you realize why some people don't see the N64 as the best system of that generation, because it may not have the games they like.

It doesn't mean those people are fanboys or seething, it just means they have different tastes.
>Unless you're a PlayStation fanboy, who can't go 5 minutes without wanting to show off his e-peen.
You N64 fanboys keep bringing this up but I see more N64 fanboys derailing PS1 and Saturn threads than I see PS1 and Saturn fanboys derailing N64 threads.

Also this thread was pure bait and you idiots fell for it hook, line, and sinker.

>> No.6402606

>>6384659
and mos tof them are platforming trash

>> No.6402612

good luck playing ocarina of time on a sega saturn
for fuck's sake people, just get multiple systems, there's no need for fanboyism

>> No.6402615

>>6400249
Yeah, this is true. Nintendo has really gotten soulless, but they definitely used to be full of soul.

>> No.6402617

>>6402612
But PS1 may be a possibility:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxcCjy07coc

>> No.6402628

>>6402612
Has anyone not actually played ocarina of time? It's such an entry level game.

>> No.6402639

>>6402604
>And your N64 console warring isn't?
This thread was started by a console warrior, and you came here to fan the flames.
>I didn't say they were bad. I simply asked what makes them better than similar games on PS1 and Saturn? I also asked what else is there to play when I finish those games?
That's not what you said.
>Saturn emulation has been good enough for a long time. And if you've been wanting to play one for decades you had the perfect opportunity to get into it about 10-15 years ago.
Do I need a high end computer, or do you have any quick rundowns I can look to? I've had trouble with a port of Yabause, and got sidetracked with other things, so I gave up on the prospect for a while. I've been wanting to play Saturn as well as many other games for other systems, so that doesn't mean that I don't want to play Saturn,
>No, it's simply asking if you can name 10 games in each genre. It's basically an exercise to get you to realize why some people may prefer the PS1 or Saturn over the N64. It may help you realize why some people don't see the N64 as the best system of that generation, because it may not have the games they like.
The 10 games is an argument based on quantity, which is fallacious and desperate, as previously noted countless times. That doesn't prove anything except "but what about" which is moving the goalposts away from which games are the best and which aren't.
>You N64 fanboys
"We"'re more than one person, "we"'re not all fanboys, and this thread is dedicated to PS1 fanboyism, such as you ascribe to.
>but I see more N64 fanboys derailing PS1 and Saturn threads than I see PS1 and Saturn fanboys derailing N64 threads
I've never seen this happen. Were you dreaming about N64 or something?
>Also this thread was pure bait and you idiots fell for it hook, line, and sinker
"I was only pretending to be retarded!"

>> No.6402640

>>6402628
It's still regarded as the greatest game of all time.

>> No.6402641

>>6402628
i have a bad habit of not completing games
i actually own an oot cartridge, but haven't gotten very far in it at all

>> No.6402642
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>>6402640
By the same people that think this is one of the greatest games of all time, sure.

>> No.6402647

>>6402642
Different era, but even still, TLoU is not its sequel.

>> No.6402663

>>6402647
Same people say the same thing.

>> No.6402673

>>6402663
Not sure if that's true, but that changes nothing, regardless.

>> No.6402676

>>6402673
It's 100% true, go review any top 100 list from any of those sites.
>that changes nothing, regardless.
The funny thing is, it doesn't.

>> No.6402685

>>6402639
>You came to fan the flames.
No I simply called out an N64 fanboy's blanket statement and bias.
>That's not what you said.
It is what I said. Maybe you should take the time to read.
>Do I need a high end computer, or do you have any quick rundowns I can look to?
For mednafen yes, for SSF no. And Yabause is trash. You can also just by a Saturn for under $50 and get a mod chip or Pseudo Saturn and your all set.
>The 10 games is an argument based on quantity, which is fallacious and desperate,
It's an argument to paint a better picture of the system's library to show it's strengths and weakness and who it appeals to. There's nothing fallacious or desperate about it. The only desperation or goalpost moving is you avoiding answering it.
>"We"'re more than one person
Which is why I said fanboys, as in more than one.
>I've never seen this happen.
It has literally happened in the last few Saturn and PS1 threads. PS1 and Saturn fans typically don't lash out like this. They pretty much accept both systems have strengths and weakness and both have games worth owning. They even admit the N64 has good games that are worth owning.

N64 fanboys on the other hand seem to have an inferiority complex and have to prove to everyone that their console was the best at everything of that generation. Hell there was one in the Nintendo Leaks thread trying to stir up shit about FF7 being possible on the N64 because of RE2.
>"I was only pretending to be retarded!"
I'm not the retard who fell for a bait thread.

>> No.6402689

>>6402676
>It's true, Google it
>The funny thing is
lmao

>> No.6402736

>>6402685
>No I simply called out an N64 fanboy's blanket statement and bias
You responded to a "biased" blanket statement with a biased blanket statement. Your lack of self-awareness immediately outs you as a PS1 fanboy.
>It is what I said. Maybe you should take the time to read.
Maybe you shouldn't backpedal and move goalposts.
>For mednafen yes, for SSF no. And Yabause is trash. You can also just by a Saturn for under $50 and get a mod chip or Pseudo Saturn and your all set.
Thanks. I heard about mednafen and SSF last year, so I'll give them a try when I can. I might try the mod chip (or try finding out what a Pseudo Saturn is) eventually if I need to, as well, then.
>Which is why I said fanboys, as in more than one.
You're calling anyone that opposes any of your claims for any reason a fanboy, which is smearing out of desperation and likely projection.
>PS1 and Saturn fans typically don't lash out like this. They pretty much accept both systems have strengths and weakness and both have games worth owning. They even admit the N64 has good games that are worth owning.
Again, this thread and the 2-3 other threads in the catalog prove that's false.
>N64 fanboys on the other hand seem to have an inferiority complex and have to prove to everyone that their console was the best at everything of that generation
Again, never have seen this.
>Hell there was one in the Nintendo Leaks thread trying to stir up shit about FF7 being possible on the N64
I have head something close to this (sour grapes-esque "we don't even need FMVs", which isn't necessarily false, but nonetheless), but claiming your console might be capable of running a game from another system isn't attacking another system. To even think that is happening, you have to be an extremely defensive fanboy. Rather, I see that as a compliment of the PS1, similar to how claiming Genesis can run Star Fox is a compliment of the SNES.

>> No.6402743

>>6402685
>I'm not the retard who fell for a bait thread
And yet you chose to post in it and are still posting in it. From the first post, it's clear that everyone knew this was a bait thread. That hasn't stopped PS1 fanboys from trying to make use of it for their retardation.

>> No.6402761 [DELETED] 

>>6402736
>You responded to a "biased" blanket statement with a biased blanket statement.
What is biased about saying all three systems have equally good games?
>>It is what I said. Maybe you should take the time to read.
Maybe you shouldn't backpedal and move goalposts.
Maybe you should learn to read.
>I heard about SSF last year
You need to be 18 or older to post here.
>You're calling anyone that opposes any of your claims for any reason a fanboy, which is smearing out of desperation and likely projection.
No, I'm calling fanboys fanboys. You've yet to actually address an argument without bias or fanboy aggression.
>Again, this thread and the 2-3 other threads in the catalog prove that's false.
You mean the last 2-3 Saturn threads where mentioning Quake get's a bunch of N64 fanboys saying it's shit and the N64 has better shooters?
>Again, never have seen this.
Go look in the mirror.
>but claiming your console might be capable of running a game from another
There's a difference between claiming it could run it, and saying things like "It's all just worthless FMV and CD Audio" and ignoring evidence to the contrary when it's posted.

>>6402743
>That hasn't stopped PS1 fanboys from trying to make use of it for their retardation.
Nah, they're just trolling idiots like you for entertainment.

>> No.6402774

>ps1 and saturnfags never derail threads
lmao

>> No.6402775

>>6402736
>You responded to a "biased" blanket statement with a biased blanket statement.
What is biased about saying all three systems have equally good games?
>Maybe you shouldn't backpedal and move goalposts.
Maybe you should learn to read.
>I heard about SSF last year
You need to be 18 or older to post here.
>You're calling anyone that opposes any of your claims for any reason a fanboy, which is smearing out of desperation and likely projection.
No, I'm calling fanboys fanboys. You've yet to actually address an argument without bias or fanboy aggression.
>Again, this thread and the 2-3 other threads in the catalog prove that's false.
You mean the last 2-3 Saturn threads where mentioning Quake get's a bunch of N64 fanboys saying it's shit and the N64 has better shooters?
>Again, never have seen this.
Go look in the mirror.
>but claiming your console might be capable of running a game from another
There's a difference between claiming it could run it, and saying things like "It's all just worthless FMV and CD Audio" and ignoring evidence to the contrary when it's posted.

>>6402743
>That hasn't stopped PS1 fanboys from trying to make use of it for their retardation.
Nah, they're just trolling idiots like you for entertainment. They know N64 fanboys can't resist the bait.

>> No.6402789

>>6384889
I've never played the Dreamcast but it's not better than the N64

>> No.6402792

>>6402789
In one sentence you've perfectly captured the essence of an N64 fanboy.

>> No.6402825

>>6402792
>confirmation bias via falseflag
The best argument the Snoyboy has.

>> No.6402835

>>6402825
If I'm a Sony fanboy why would I be defending the Dreamcast and Saturn?

>> No.6402852

>>6385459
If Zelda is an RPG game, every N64 game is an RPG

>> No.6402858

Holy fuck this thread went to absolute shit

>> No.6402859

>>6402858
>went to absolute shit
Please, it began as absolute shit.

>> No.6402860

>>6402775
>What is biased about saying all three systems have equally good games?
You also said "They're no more amazing than the best PS1 and Saturn games really. The truth is that there's so little worth playing in the already small N64 library", retard.
>Maybe you should learn to read.
Maybe you shouldn't gaslight and deflect.
>No, I'm calling fanboys fanboys. You've yet to actually address an argument without bias or fanboy aggression.
Again, you're projecting. You came in here not with the intention to dispel partisananship but to leech off of OP's gayness.
>You mean the last 2-3 Saturn threads where mentioning Quake get's a bunch of N64 fanboys saying it's shit and the N64 has better shooters?
Again, you're deflecting and "no u"ing. This thread and the 2-other threads in the catalog dedicated to obsessing over the N64 and anyone who has remotely enjoyed it ever proves that PS1 fans constantly lash out at any thought that makes them feel upset.
>Go look in the mirror.
You sound a little upset, and no, I haven't done this, either.
>There's a difference between claiming it could run it, and saying things like "It's all just worthless FMV and CD Audio" and ignoring evidence to the contrary when it's posted.
Fair point, but that's not what you said was stated.
>Nah, they're just trolling idiots like you for entertainment. They know N64 fanboys can't resist the bait.
Good cope. You couldn't even resist defending the PS1 to death, hence why you came here. The first two posts in this thread make it very clear that PS1 fanboys are obsessed needing validation and that most are long and very aware of this.

>> No.6402868

>>6402835
Because you disingenuously need them to deflect from PS1's weaknesses. I love Dreamcast and have an original model, too, but you still refer to me as a buzzword because you're insecure about PS1's weaknesses.

>> No.6402870

>>6402852
Box says '"Action RPG," so can you cope?

>> No.6402879

>>6402870
Can you not be an action homosexual

>> No.6402884

>>6402879
Meant for >>6384659

>> No.6402928

>>6402860
>They're no more amazing than the best PS1 and Saturn games really
There's nothing biased about this.
>The truth is that there's so little worth playing in the already small N64 library
And the rest that you cut out was
>that the good stuff stands out more.
There's nothing biased there, just stating an objective fact about the N64 having a smaller library. You like to go on about PS1 shovelware, but have you forgotten how much shovelware is on the N64? What about all the EA Sports titles? How much really remains when you remove all that from the already small library?
>Maybe you shouldn't gaslight and deflect.
Maybe you should learn to not take every legitimate criticism of the N64 as an attack on your family's honor.
>You came in here not with the intention to dispel partisananship but to leech off of OP's gayness.
No I came in here to see what was being said and saw your biased statements and replied.
>"no u"ing
The last few Saturn threads have literally been derailed by N64 fanboys going on about it sucking at 3D and having no good platformers or FPSes.
>Fair point, but that's not what you said was stated.
It is what I said. I was referencing something going on right now in the N64 leaks thread.
>You couldn't even resist defending the PS1 to death
I'm not defending the PS1 to the death. I simply pointed out your N64 bias.

>>6402868
>Because you disingenuously need them to deflect from PS1's weaknesses.
Yet I own more Saturn and Dreamcast games than I do PS1 games...

I refer to you as a fanboy because you are a fanboy. If you weren't, you also wouldn't get upset about people pointing out facts like the N64 having a smaller library, or making an objective statement like "All three systems have good games."

>>6402870
And Panzer Dragoon II's box says it's the best 3D Shooter made. Does that mean it's true?

>> No.6403513

>>6401996
>has no truly 10/10 games
*laughs in Final Fantasy 9*

>> No.6403527

>>6402928
>There's nothing biased there, just stating an objective fact about the N64 having a smaller library.
That's exactly the same as saying the PS1 is 90% shovelware, which is also an objective fact.
>Maybe you should learn to not take every legitimate criticism of the N64 as an attack on your family's honor.
Your first post in this thread was white-knighting the PS1.
>No I came in here to see what was being said and saw your biased statements and replied.
Those weren't my statements. Stay obsessed.
>The last few Saturn threads have literally been derailed by N64 fanboys going on about it sucking at 3D and having no good platformers or FPSes.
This is absolutely a no u (tu quoque) argument. Not only do you have very little credibility at this point for me to take you word that this is actually true, what does this have to do with you console warring for PS1 in a thread designed by a PS1 console warrior?
You said "there was one in the Nintendo Leaks thread trying to stir up shit about FF7 being possible on the N64 because of RE2." You mention say anything about FMVs or CD audio. Why the cope lying?
>I'm not defending the PS1 to the death
And I'm your dad.
>Yet I own more Saturn and Dreamcast games than I do PS1 games
How is that relevant? You're deflecting because you know PS1 is shit by itself.
>I refer to you as a fanboy because you are a fanboy.
Again, you're projecting. A fanboy is someone who cannot admit his system has faults and love fighting "for the glory of his brand" or against his brand's opponents, exactly what you've spent 90%+ of your posting here. Have some self-awareness for Pete's sake.

>> No.6403545

>>6402928
>If you weren't, you also wouldn't get upset about people pointing out facts like the N64 having a smaller library, or making an objective statement like "All three systems have good games."
I haven't gotten upset about either of those statements, and I've already agreed to the latter statement in more one than one post to you in this very thread. You're desperately misrepresenting what I said: that "quantity > quality (ie, your primary argument)" is fallacious, and doesn't determine how good any system is. Hence why having a library of 6 gorillion titles doesn't make a system good if most of that is shovelware. But you won't let this go, despite very uncovincingly insisting that you're "not" PS1 fanboy.

>> No.6403556

>>6403527
That is, you want me to accept any criticism against the N64 without question, or else I'm a "fanboy" according to your reaching definition of the word, yet you came into this thread because the PS1 was getting criticized. You want to have your cake and eat it, too, because you're insecurely projecting your fanboyism onto your "mortal enemies."

>> No.6403558

>>6402212
>Or is it that you only know N64 games and have barely glanced at the PS1 and Saturn libraries?
funny you say this because you're namedropping all very well known games for ps1 and saturn, acting as if you're some sort of guru. Still, I'll give you props for mentioning baku baku, underrated game, all of the genres you mentioned have great entries on N64 man.
Puzzle? Out-of-the-box 4 player puyo puyo sun, dr mario 64, the pokemon tetris attack, the new tetris, etc
Driving, I don't think I need to list all the good ones, the vroomer shitposter will appear again
3D action, also don't think I need to list games in this genre as n64 is precisely know for them, but to name some that aren't first party: goemon, bomber man, shadow man, shadows of the empire
FPS, also don't think it needs any list, it has many of the most beloved console FPS and some that even PC purists respect, like Doom 64
>>6402928
>And Panzer Dragoon II's box says it's the best 3D Shooter made. Does that mean it's true
In the Top 3 for sure.
Also been reading a bit of the wall of text shitposting you've been having with the other anon. You both are wrong, bur you're absolutely shameless claiming Ps fans don't shitpost. They are the worst, and that one n64 fanboy that has been popping up in recent saturn threads is nothing compared to the many other hundreds of threads shitposted by sonyfags. Both saturn and N64 live rent free on sony fanboys mind

>> No.6403591

>>6402870
Does the main character have stats and HP?
Do numbers fly out when you hit an enemy?
If the answer to either of those is "no", then it's not an RPG.

>> No.6403598

>>6384659
>you can count all the jarpigs on one hand
The worst part is if they didn't fuck things up and actually finished Earthbound 64 it would have singlehandedly leveled the RPG playing field.

>> No.6403604

>>6402928
Genre and subjective take of a game's quality are two different things. Plus this is the official designation on the Japanese box. Perhaps you just misunderstand what an RPG is and should open your mind a little.
>inb4 Japan doesn't matter
>inb4 primary sources don't matter

>> No.6403605

>>6385964
>>can't play games because it became below 70 degrees and 71 degrees Fahrenheit and you ate a peanut butter
What did he mean by this?

>> No.6403608

>>6403591
Kid Icarus is a less controversial and yet still unconventional example of an action RPG that conforms to your standards here.

>> No.6403617

>>6403598
I heard recently that Animal Crossing is what arose from its ashes. If that's true, I wonder if EB64 is really the better timeline.

>> No.6403635

>>6402360
Your "name 10 genres" of game is spurious, because you have basically hand-picked 10 genres that you personally like. For example you have no "Party" game genre and no "Sports" genre. (I am going to go ahead and assume you didnt have any friends to play multiplayer with, and arent into sports because you got picked last on sports day at school, because you are a scrawny underling.)
For Party games, n64 has the Mario Party series. For sports games, soccer games were better on N64 because it had a better controller layout (and 4 controller ports and better graphics.)

Then there is the fact you have combined Action Adventure and Platforming; extremely disingenuous of you when "3D Platformer" was a huge genre in 5th gen in and of itself, (kickstarted by Mario 64 on the N64, btw) and Action Adventure would apply to your Zeldas.

Where would Pokemon Stadium fit into this list? I would say it is an RPG but then sony fanboys (and just LMAO at the claim "sony fanboys never derail threads"... lmao ,this absolutely must be a troll.) would freek out.
Where does Conkers Bad Fur Day fit into this list? A totally unique game, excellent in multiplayer.

Beat Em Up and Fighting both appear ; okay, I am gonna assume you mean beat em up like golden axe or streets of rage, and Fighting to be like Tekken or Mortal Kombat. Well, "beat em up" was really not a relevant genre after 4th gen. So its a strange choice (considering you left out Sports, and others). "Shmup" also is a 4th gen genre and so is "2D games". So you basically listed "what Saturn is good for."

N64 has great games but (since its nintendo) its often difficult to pin down what "genre" they are.

I feel the N64 hate from Sony fanboys is beause PS1 outsold N64, and yet N64 isnt seen as a "failed" console the way the Saturn or Jaguar are. So they begin to come up with all these copes.

Also
>a more well-rounded library
Who cares? Why does it have to be well-rounded?

>> No.6403734

>>6403558
This anon forgot which site he's on.

>> No.6403737

>>6403608
So when you shoot an enemy it shows you did 72 damage?
I said either.

>> No.6403776

>>6403591
Pokemon is an RPG , or a battle-RPG I guess. Is Paper Mario an RPG ? is Earthbound an RPG ? it becomes quite silly, all this.

This is the thing, many Nintendo games are hard to pin down. what genre is Pikmin ? Splatoon ? Chibo-Robo? difficult to say.

>> No.6403782

>>6403776
>Is Paper Mario an RPG ? is Earthbound an RPG
Yeah that's not controversial.
>many Nintendo games are hard to pin down. what genre is Pikmin ? Splatoon ? Chibo-Robo? difficult to say.
top down action, third person shooter, 3d platformer adventure. When you understand genres and that Doom isn't an RPG, you can get a grasp what genres the games are a part of.

>> No.6404809

>>6403776
>Pokemon is an RPG , or a battle-RPG I guess. Is Paper Mario an RPG ? is Earthbound an RPG ? it becomes quite silly, all this

Listing three straight up RPGs isn't silly

>> No.6404939

>>6384714
good.

>> No.6405049

>>6385617
many of those are perfectly adequate visual novels. Obviously it's not meaningful for the general consumer but its not as if the games are trash

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>>6384659
>implying anyone owned more than 296 games

All kidding aside, storage format was the main contributor. In addition, Nintendo's controlling policies during the third and fourth console generations strained its relationship with some third party developers. Also, Sony got a head start.

>> No.6405240

>>6405209
Yep. It is also worth pointing out a few factors.
One: Remember, N64 was being drawn up in 1993/94. At that time it was unclear if CD for games would catch on; was it still too primitive, would it be too expensive, could cartidges still offer something?
Remember, VHS tapes were outclassed in quality by LaserDisc, and DVD, but still claimed a decent market even into the 2000s. DVDs were very expensive in the early 2000s, despite being a better medium. It takes time for new technology to catch on.

Two: Nintendo were wary of the bottom falling out the vidya market as it had in 1983 and that is how they came to have aggressive negotiations with 3rd party developers. You could argue either way about this all night, but its their company and they operate the way they want to. They seem to have done OK out of it.

Three: Nintendo are more of an artisan creator than a shareholder-profit driven company. They produce innovative, quirky games (toys, basically) and try to have a family-friendly appeal. To this end they also disencourage piracy. (Piracy was absolutely rampant with PS1 and PS2). It was harder to pirate N64 cartidges.
Again, fair play to them. Yes it is quite tough on developers; but some developers are able to play Nintendo rules, like Rareware, and actually become massively successful and get enormous critical acclaim. If you wanted to pump out gory violent shovelware, yeah Nintendo is not the place to do it.
And is that really such a bad thing?

Besides, as you say, nobody owned 300 games anyway, so it is a moot point. Most people own between 5 and 25 games. On any given console it is the same handful of games everyone talks about anyway (on PS1 it was Final Fantasy 7, Metal Gear Solid and Resident Evil. )
The whole "well rounded" thing is a meme. If you preferred RPGs, just buy a PS1.

Unless you work at a 3rd party developer who was burned by Nintendo, I fail to see why anyone would give a fuck, really.

>> No.6405241

>>6391613
Odyssey > 64
BotW > OoT

>> No.6405252

>>6384659
>four hundred thirty replies

>> No.6405258

>>6405241
https://www.destructoid.com/breaking-down-why-breath-of-the-wild-is-highly-overrated-452329.phtml

BotW is not fit to lace Ocarina's boots. See this article above for a good explanation of why BOTW is overrated.

>> No.6405381

>>6405240
Yeah hindsight is 20/20. Many of their decisions protected both them and the consumers. And they're still in the game. They didn't screw up too badly.

I do kinda wish they pulled the plug on the 64DD add-on from the get-go and beefed up the system a tad even if it increased its cost. The system's true potential was squandered due to the inefficient structure of the architecture (which saved cost).

The 64DD format likely would've increased the success of the system if it had launched with it, but the add-on had a bunch of delays, so I'm not sure if it was even possible at the time. I believe textures would've been better if they had more storage space. More ports.

I do love the cartridge format though. Dat speed.

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>>6405258
I’m not clicking that shit, nigger.

>> No.6405505

>>6405381
well there was the Expansion Pak. But yes. There were also upsides to cartridges. No loading times, save-to-cart (memory cards could be a pain in the ass - but also could be useful sometimes) but saving to the cart was pretty useful. The N64 carts are pretty durable, too. Mine all still work (quite a number of my PS1 and Xbox 360 game discs no longer work, in comparison).

Also from Nintendos own point of view, they avoided piracy altogether, which is good from their point of view and just generally I would say piracy is best avoided.

>> No.6405585

Back then I played every Mario and Zelda title, Poke Stadium, Perfect Darkness, F zero and Star Fox, along some shit like Mortal Kombat, Pro Evolution Soccer, etc. Is there anything lese worth trying out? I have Open Emu, but I just cant find anything worthwhile on N64

>> No.6405591

>>6402163
ngl this comic makes the n64 look cool

>> No.6405601

>>6405585
Super Mario 64
Mario Kart 64
Mario Golf
Mario Tennis
Mario Party 1-3
Paper Mario
Super Smash Bros.
Dr. Mario 64
F-Zero X
Star Fox 64
Perfect Dark
Mischief Makers
Bomberman 64
Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards

>> No.6405618

>>6384714
What is it with /vr/ and RPGs? Yeah they're great, but it's not the end-all, be-all of a console.

>> No.6405671

>>6405240
>At that time it was unclear if CD for games would catch on; was it still too primitive, would it be too expensive, could cartidges still offer something?
true, it wasn't all "wow such space"
the drives were expensive, the read speeds were relatively slow as fuck, no direct memory access means more reliance on system ram for buffering (basically had to load entire levels into ram, then perhaps stream the music, while on carts you can comfortably leave anything not on screen at that instant on the cart, since it's just as fast to read the cart as you can ram)

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Almost all of its games had bad controls and ugly early 3d graphics. It is Nintendo's big Style Over Substance console made for new gamers who didn't know anything about what made games good and didn't realize Nintendo was paying off most reviewers to give horrible gameplay and laughably bad camera games like Mario 64 glowing GOTYAY reviews.

>> No.6405702

>>6405680
and yet sm64 is still the most played speed game, because it's still fun to play
and this is coming from someone who opted for a playstation (and doesn't regret it), you must be high if you think sm64 is a bad game

>bad controls
>sm64
seriously though, who's your dealer?

>> No.6405753

>>6384745
why would Paper Mario not fall under the JRPG genre, is this your first day on this planet or something?

>> No.6405780

>>6405601
Anon, the only games that I didnt mention as the ones I already played were Bomberman, Kirby (both which I forgot but already played) and Mischief Makers. So thanks for that one, I guess

>> No.6405796

>>6403635
>Your "name 10 genres" of game is spurious, because you have basically hand-picked 10 genres that you personally like.

No I tried to pick a good amount of very different genres. If you want to throw party and Sports in there go ahead, I threw other in there to cover ones I forgot or are unique and don't really fit into one specific genre.

>Then there is the fact you have combined Action Adventure and Platforming
Don't get mad at me about that, get mad at this person who did that first. >>6391730

I simply went "Ok the N64 fanboys are saying Mario and Banjo are Action Adventure today..."

>Where would Pokemon Stadium fit into this list?
>Where does Conkers Bad Fur Day fit into this list?
Wherever you like. Just don't use them more than once.

>Well, "beat em up" was really not a relevant genre after 4th gen. So its a strange choice (considering you left out Sports, and others). "Shmup" also is a 4th gen genre and so is "2D games". So you basically listed "what Saturn is good for."
No I listed a lot of different genres. There's ones on that list that the Saturn and PS1 would struggle to fill in 10 good games for as well. And Shmup and 2D aren't "4th Gen Genres". Both Saturn and PS1 have tons of them, some of the best in the genre even. Just because that's an area the N64 is weak in doesn't mean it's unfair to mention those Genres. Saturn is going to struggle to come up with 10 good 3D Platformers and FPSes. PS1 is going to struggle to come up with 10 good FPSes.

>N64 has great games but (since its nintendo) its often difficult to pin down what "genre" they are.
This is true for many games and systems, the N64 is not unique here. So put it in the Genre you feel it fits best into, if you can't decide stick it in Other. That's why I put other in there.

>Who cares? Why does it have to be well-rounded?
Not everyone likes having only 3D Platformers and Racers to play.

So are you N64 fanboys going to keep dodging that challenge or are you going to answer it?

>> No.6405818

based nintendo 64 living rent free in the minds of many haters who never owned it, but to be fair 5th gen is pretty weak. The whole generation only really has a handful of good games. I'd say N64 and Saturn have more worthwhile games than PS, though.

>> No.6405825

>>6405818
Thanks for your input, pseudo-centrist cuck.

>> No.6405826

>>6398163
I sometimes wonder how many Nintendo games and consoles Sega ended up buying for these ads over the years.

>> No.6405850

>>6384659
You already know what the good games are
No console has more than a few games worth playing
>but this console only has 300 games while this other one has 1000!
They have equally as many worthy games

>> No.6405852

>>6405825
>centrist
LMAO, console warriors thinking they're discussing politics now. Cute as hell.

>> No.6405857

put your trip again gramps, specially when you shitpost on /v/

>> No.6405931

>>6405825
Zoom

>> No.6405948

Why is everyone shitting on the 64 now side some Tuber malena video?

>> No.6405963

Sonyggers are the real enemy
https://boards.4channel.org/vr/thread/6384659#bottom
>>6404207

>> No.6405972

>>6405963
Keep pushing that narrative.

>> No.6405978

>>6405972
Sony ruined gaming.

>> No.6405987

>>6405972
Not him, but Sony fans have always been the most console warry people.
It's like, Nintendo and Sega fans, while they did it a lot, were always more tongue-in-cheek, while Sony fanboys are way more tryhard and serious about it, way more dedicated.
I mean, look at all those "troll campaigns" sony fanboys on /v/ organize, all these golden wojak face memes and stuff.

>> No.6405995

>>6402406
The fact the PS3 did as well as it did despite its terrible start is admirable, and a feat no other console has pulled off. Even so there were only about 100 million Wiis sold, while the PS3 reached close to 90 million (and even beat out the 360), but despite stronger sales all the noteworthy third party series didn't show up on the Wii. But it did get odd ports of Rockstar games, I imagine a port of San Andreas would've really done a number.

>> No.6406000

>>6405963
I bet you that was a Nintedo 64 fanboy that made that. Sony and Sega fans are well aware of their consoles strengths and weaknesses and tend to be more in the mindset of "yeah both consoles have good games, let's enjoy them."

It's the Nintendo 64 fanboys who have the inferiority complex. They're the ones who feel the need to dismiss the other two systems and their libraries in an attempt to prove the N64 was the best at everything.

>> No.6406015

lmao

>> No.6406017

You will never be white.

>> No.6406337

>>6406000
You keep saying this, but there's tons and tons of years of Sony fanboy shitposting proving you wrong.
If anything, it seems like you're desperately trying to blame N64 fanboys.

>> No.6406397

>>6405987
>He actually thinks goldface wojaks aren’t posted mostly by false flaggers

>> No.6406405

>>6405492
archive.fo it. Now you have no excuse unless you're just not hetero.

>> No.6406409

>>6405618
This is the most boomer board on this website, many users of which unironically defend Redit.

>> No.6406412

>>6406337
>tons of years of Sony fanboy shitposting proving you wrong
Feel free to cite some of it.

>> No.6406416

>>6405680
>Mario is incapable of walking in straight line
>Seriously, try it
Okay. I just held up on the control stick, and there are physical indents around the stick to make sure even the lowest of IQ can move in their desired direction. Now I see why they call PS1 fanboys "snoyboys", if all you got is "hot takes" by sóyjournos.

>> No.6406417

>>6405780
Many more were mentioned earlier in the thread.

>> No.6406426

>>6406412
This thread you're posting in. This thread here: >>6404207 #

You can keep denying the evidence given to you every time you ask for it, faggot. "Not my REAL Sonyposter."

>> No.6406432

>>6406000
>I bet you that bullshit conspiracy theory with zero examples provided made that.
Lol snoylet.

>> No.6406439

>>6406426
Neither are proof. The only evidence ITT is your clear anti-Sony bias, which I find hilarious and a bit sad. Keep seeing faces in the clouds.

>>6406432
Why’d ya sage? Pussy.

>> No.6406443

>>6406432
>bullshit conspiracy theory
You mean like assuming it was made by “da ebul Sony fans! >;(“?

>> No.6406447

>>6406439
>Did you know N64 sucks? It doesn't? Why are you being biased?
Begging the question fallacy
>Anytime you refute my claims with evidence means you actually have no evidence.
No true Scotsman fallacy.

Do PlayStation fanboys really...?

>> No.6406449

>>6406443
>tu quoque fallacy
lmao you fucking sperg

>> No.6406471

>>6406447
I never said the N64 sucks. You’re putting words in my mouth.
>with evidence
Assumptions are not evidence. It’s on you to prove they’re a Sony fan.

>> No.6406484

>>6406471
Are they a Saturn, Jaguar, or 3DO fanboy? Say "possibly."

>> No.6406528

>>6406447
>>6406449
>fallacy fallacy
Try actually explaining why they’re wrong, instead of just listing off fallacies. An argument containing fallacies can still be right.

>> No.6406579

>>6384714
Yeah, Cloud crossdressing like a faggot is the tru anti-manchildren game. Also spyro.

>> No.6406634

>>6406579
please don't lump crossdressing in with faggotry
that offends both crossdressers AND faggots

>> No.6406682

>>6406528
Read the posts being replied to and their replies. One of replies gave direct explanations of those posts and the other reply called out a tu quoque used in one of those posts. "Plausible deniability" appeal seems to be popular in this thread all of a sudden.

>> No.6406705

>>6406426
that thread is by the n64 autist who has been shitting up /vr/ for months.

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>>6406705
>>6406705
Why do you Sonyggers never stop thinking about the N64? Literally anything happens: "it's Nintendo." The only others you're convincing of this besides yourself is other Sony fanboys. Can't you just accept that Nintendo has also made a lot of great games in the past 30 years instead of constantly trying to justify to yourself how you can still "win" a non-existent console war?

>> No.6406730

>>6406726
this post is by the n64 autist who has been shitting up /vr/ for months.

>> No.6406769

>>6399004
Stick to Krikkz

>> No.6406775

>>6406730
fuck meant for >>6406439

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>>6406775
what did he meme by this?

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>console warring about great consoles on a generally chilled board

>> No.6406780 [DELETED] 

>>6406775
Lol simp.