/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[4-28] A new YouTube channel about mapping in Trenchbroom
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMkmAYBVLAC9jGIUD4LjacA

[4-28] Further work on a Doom port/remake on the Amiga 500
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvRxpxVRdEg

[4-28] More Quake Champions rips, guns
https://knockout.chat/thread/9182

[4-25] Anon releases Desolate, a Doom 64 Map
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8wwtv2o1ee355v3/Desolate.7z?dl=0

[4-24] Anon shares a map, Funny Towers
https://mega.nz/file/lA9ljB7B#kSBT3dW8CEsoyzVncKHwjDnkX0mBXPfxmERDlmxRylU

[4-24] Anon converts a few midi tracks using various soundfont banks
>>6369212

[4-22] Doom Retro updated to version 3.5.5
https://www.doomretro.com/

[4-21] Trailblazer 1.5 is out
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=47494&p=1148021#p1148021

[4-19] Anon shares first map, Heavy March, looking for feedback
https://mega.nz/file/GZ1RSKpY#UQ1CCbPEzfRYQssh2SbHr9bOFKIJFREPpOz5--Aptqs

[4-19] Refracted Reality mapset now available for download
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/113801-release-refracted-reality-rc1/

[4-18] New companion mod by Skelegant, Gholazon X
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=68239

[4-17] Anon shares his first map for Blood, Shafted
http://blood.freeminded.de/index.php?section=maps&id=619
https://archive.org/details/Shafted

[4-17] Crispy Heretic is being maintained again
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/67168-crispy-doom-580-update-apr-17-2020/?page=59&tab=comments#comment-2116114

[4-15] Cool Skies mini-episode 1 is officially released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/113043-cool-skies-mini-episode-1-release/

[4-14] New Chex Quest teased
https://twitter.com/ChexMix/status/1250109904058077184?s=19

[4-13] New mod for Blood: Trauma Therapy
https://www.moddb.com/mods/blood-trauma-therapy

[4-12] Anon shares new map, looking for feedback
https://mega.nz/file/3wQkRYaQ#Bef5au_79yvvU3rsBNNmYnoMmsSGJKtlZ2Et_wuXVX0

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>>6379170
Agreed. Stop (completely) shitting on (the notion of) "ideas guys"- Many of them are willing to put in the work, just are woefully bad at doing so. It's understandable that a lot of bad apples have soured the bunch; but much of the time, many people are attacked simply because they don't have other people to lean on to help with their lack of skills and capability.
I've seen countless people attacked and chased away from the community for similar reasons and not necessarily being idea guys, but for stupid drama.
Don't be like that. It doesn't matter who is who. What matters is DOOM.

>>6379175
>[4-22] Doom Retro updated to version 3.5.5
I've always liked the idea of Doom Retro, or at least the idea I have of it, basically Crispy Doom with Boom compatibility, but it has always run like shit on my PC for some reason. It also seems to add a bunch of random nonsense features that seemingly only exist to try to differentiate it from other source ports.

>>6379130
Mite work with some refinement.
Strongly encourage the showcasing of the deceased and those who have failed, been exhiled, or subjects of drama (Yes, even Graf's spergout. That's integral, but we should make notion of 'despite this, he's still one of us') bit.

>>6379187
another "muh idea is good, bruh!" baby pissing at the walls
no one cares

>>6379187
The community doesn't need leeches who just want other people to do work and contribute nothing except ideas for work they want other people to do. It's really simple. Either contribute something or don't say anything.

>>6379236
>the community needs to stagnate, wither and die

>>6379236
>>6379228
>making excuses just to bitch about something, anything, just so you can be a douchebag to everyone.

>>6379243
welcome to 4chan, motherfucker!

>>6379236
No one needs people who bitch and moan while also doing absolutely nothing to contribute.

>>6379187
Don't bother wasting your breath. This community hates new blood unless it's part of their circlejerk. Just wait for the admins to delete and ban you and move on. They don't care for anybody who isn't gaslighted into their realm of thinking.

>>6379247
>shits on idea guys who want to contribute but aren't capable of doing so on their own and want to help offload some of the work of others so they have an idea what they're doing
>turns around and bitch and moans when nobody contributes, which is hypocrytical irony seeing as they did the exact same thing.
A shame, really. I get why the community has such a bad reputation now.
Bet my posts will be deleted and banned for stating facts.

e2m2 and e2m7 are the patrician choice and "Tom is king"

>>6379251
Take your fedora off. Remember that /vr/ isn't just one person.
I'm not shitting on this idea, nor am I bitching noone is contributing. I'm bitching about people who decide to be euphoric enough to shit on ideas guys that hard.
I'm making my contributions to the modding scene with my gameplay mods, what have you done other than pick a fight here?

>>6379263
I'm not trying to pick a fight dude. This is an anonymous imageboard. I think you misinterpreted what's being said here, I'm somewhat agreeing with you.
People who work on the video should no doubt include fangames too, such as the famous Doom: The Roguelike

Reminder that Collabs work; but people bitching about them don't.
ZDCMP and ZDCMP2 are proof of this
Don't say they're "refusing to learn"
How can you say they "didn't even try"
When they've put their all into it and they have been chased off because their methods differ from the established and accepted formulae?
People hate that it's new and that they'd have to put in a modicum of effort to help a new concept take root. That's all it is and all it has ever been.

Theoretical question: if one would go on to play all the known and publicly available WADs, how many hours would it take on average?

>>6379290
About tree fiddy

>>6379290
Beyond the capabilities of human lifespan.
It would take you decades, centuries even.

>>6379308
>>6379314
K, I know it's a very broad question, and I'm not looking for an accurate answer. Just an approximation.

>>6379130
>>6378849
Sounds pretty good.
Maybe end with a moral of
"There is no right or wrong way to play or make DOOM.
Do not let other people dictate or control what you do.
There is no definition as to what DOOM is and isn't;
YOU are DOOM.
And that's what makes it so special, two and a half decades later"
I like this idea.
I REALLY like this idea.

>>6379236
Ideas and design concepts are work and are contributing. You can all the skill in the world and still come out with a result that is lacking in some respect, look at Quake 1.

>>6379196
I don't quite like the way it renders lighting and it seems not possible to change it unlike the other features https://imgsli.com/MTQ2NTg/5/1

>>6379374
Yeah it's always just seemed a bit janky. It's really a shame "Crispy Boom" would be like my ideal engine.

>>6379351
The only thing wrong with Quake 1 is Shub-Niggurath, and even then it's okay. It's pretty much a 10.

SAM
I
AM

>>6379383
Wrong. The only thing wrong with Quake is episode 4.

>>6379386
happy 10th TSE HD

>>6379392
t. ranger who got gooey bounced

>>6379331
Maybe at the end it can have a collage of the "gods" of Doom, a la what Eternal did with the Sentinels and Heaven/Hell, and have it be god-live versions of the original iD Software team doing the pose in pic related, and Benelius or however his name's spelled.

Shit, my height difference is too great.

When is John Carmack starting his own podcast? I want to listen to that man talk to me for hours on end.

>>6379290
ALL wads? At least 20 years. All GOOD wads? A year.

>>6379414
He's a man of action. Ain't got time for that shit.

>>6379425
When is he going to start a stream where he just streams himself programming?

>>6379351
This. For all the shit some mappers have been given for their "shit" works, all they've really needed is a patient and understanding party. Just look at He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named. Most of the drama surrounding him is due to a lack of communication and a lack of skill in execution, but he attempts to tackle multiple possibilities, such as this puzzle-ish room.
Also the song is fucking orgasmic and captures the feeling one is trying to go for.

>>6379408
Yeah, definitely.
I didn't know Eternal did the sentinels+heaven hell being based off of this id image. Neat. samuel is such a lovable nerd/dork and the perfect counterpart to doomguy. more wads need him.

>He doesn't know that "creative director" is just a professional "ideas guy"
kek

>>6379440
No I meant making the iD team these otherworldy beings that are the metaphysical gods of Doom itself.

>>6379447
Ah.
Works for me.
Should the dead/outcasted be depicted as 'demons/mortally challenged' seeing as demons are formerly people?

>>6379443
In professional setting it's different because everyone is paid. As a hobbist I find it hard to work with other people's ideas, even if those ideas are good, because I could be spending this time working on my ideas.

>>6379465
And wouldn't you appreciate those people helping you out with your ideas in tandem?
Most idea guys WANT to help out. They just don't have the capability or experience to do so. I've rarely heard of an 'idea guy' who wanted everyone else to do ALL the work; only idea guys who fail to communicate or be understood properly while they struggle and fail to execute what they want to put out.
Many idea guys want to help; they just don't know how, and are waiting for you to give them a menial task that you already know how to do and they DON'T, to help you get to more important manners.
It's a symbiotic relationship, not a parasitic one.

I know we all like to laugh at idea guys but at least they have enthusiasm and a vision. They just need to learn the patience and discipline to actually do the work themselves. Without idea guys we'd be stuck playing boring boom format techbases forever.

>>6379471
>They just don't have the capability or experience to do so.
Neither they have the ability to reason, or to understand what is possible by the given technology and by the number of people involved.

Hello anons, I've got a new map here, it's the first I've shared publicly and the fourth map I've ever made so give me some feedback on what to improve on in the future.
It's a map 20 replacement so you've gotta punch that into the dev console, balanced for UV skill only, freelook suggested, GZDoom required. Takes about 10-20 minutes to play

https://mega.nz/file/ZnYiHKBa#6ZWeaLgeplVO6PgCGmsPOL8_HyV1sSEETi8uCfb_VNo

>>6379491
How suggested is freelook? Strongly suggested or I can get by with no vertical aim fine?

>>6379493
no vertical aim should still work fine, there's a pair of segments where it can be a little annoying but I doubt you'll have any real trouble

>>6379491
First impression: Rocks are missing textures from this side. The ledges over lava are more annoying than challenging.
Long climb is inspired, but ambushes get repetitive. Look for a way to do some sort of bait-and-switch maybe.
Telefragged arachnotron. Amusing but pointless.
Changing floor height when you change textures is generally a good advice, you got rocks just lying at the lava's level.

Then I died.

>>6379484
Again, this isn't entirely their fault. What they think and insist on thinking looks good is NOT what everyone else thinks is good.
Another coin with the same face is what a mapper thinks good gameplay and what their preffered gameplay pacing is, in comparision to the feelings of others.
I hate to use HIM again, but he's a perfect example of hatred and drama originating from little more than conflict of execution of concepts.
A lot of the "terrible" works are actually brilliant in concept, just terrible in execution.
Pic related is what I'm guessing to be some sort of etheral limbo/deadstate.

What did he mean by this?

>>6379527
shitposting

>>6379527
reference to an ancient somethingawful meme / pasta ("permabanned poster niggerstomper58)

>>6379527
He's referring to the Death Angel album, "The Ultra-Violence".

>>6379536
Love it. I wonder what happened to that claymation anon from a while back that made pic related, I'm very interested in his project.

why are there so many dickheads in the doom community bros

you're all making me sad

>>6379536
Neverhood doesn't get enough love, it's almost like the Blood of point and clicks in how it's somewhat getting this resurgence of attention recently.

>>6379532
>>6379538
Somewhat related I have a steam troll account with the name John Carmack and this crazy dude sends me weird messages thinking I'm the real John C.
I don't know how to pull up the entire log but I saved some. It's gold.

> Excellent, i watch lots of them bruh, the Oculus game clips, trailers, and previews, i cant wait to finally play some of them as much as you, especially that one thats like a rail shooter, and your in the urban, all these robots and gangsters coming after you, thats all i remember, your lil bro is so cool to, ad&d trendist and delves the arts just like us, a great person in the league of hobbyists, geeks, entertainers, and fantasy trendsetters, know what i mean chief, ill be on more now on to the router went folks had to get a new router the old one was outdated, its all black shaped sorta like a triangle, stands upright to instead of horizontally on the surface, hey see you when your on ill catch you on and think about eso to, i can add you to my guild and we can group up and do fun
>Coming along on my new Doom project, i also got Wolfenstein New Order and Old Blood, just finished New Order, that is g dope going out on the moon, that is farout, so is the London Monitor to bro.

One other time he was getting deep into comparing the pathos of doom and quake. Saying something like quake is more ego focused doom puts him in zen. I only messaged him back once but tried to stay in character.

>>6379524
Who is 'HIM?'

Anything similar to mercenaries mode from RE4?

>>6379543
Problably working on it and wants to show the rest later.
Trying to make a claymation style is hard.

>>6379548
By far one of the best OST in gaming history.
I guess is getting a spark in popularity thanks to Vinesauce and many discovered and appreciated the game even more,which is nice.

Was Rise of the Triad not that successful? It seems like a pillar of retro FPS but I don't know that many people outside that scene who have even played it. I also recently learned it was never really ported to anything like Doom or Wolfenstein 3D were, no console versions at all and only an apparently shitty iOS port. That seems odd to me, I remember playing the fuck out of it as a kid but I lived in a rural community with only a couple of other friends who played games at all and had no idea how much a game sold or a gauge of how popular it was.

>>6379548
I thought blood was getting a resurgence because of civvie

>>6379623
It was just another shareware Doom clone in 1994. That was the general attitude of the time, even if ROTT was pretty good within the genre. If it wasn't Doom and didn't have better tech than Doom, it didn't matter.

>>6379650
Yes, but we don't talk about it.

>>6379623
Funny how it was the first FPS with Capture The Flag for one of its MP modes, but no one really acknowledges that.

>>6379650
>>6379660
I don't see anything wrong with Civvie.

>>6379663
Me neither for the most part, it's just that /vr/ has a hateboner for all and every e-celeb. Rightfully so, I'd say.

>>6379623
Incredibly familiar music thanks to the doom pwads. Never played the game itself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Udj9YZUzmM&t=2954s

Got the player sprites done, this set is nearly finished, but I still got more shit to do for this Combined_Arms update

>>>/wsg/3422540

>>6379673
Oh, this looks fantastic! Good job.

>>6379546
They are necessary lest we fall into a hugbox circlejerk, which is worse for a community than death. People need to be able to express their mind freely when it comes to a topic. This is all within reason of course, as a proper balance of positivity and negativity is most optimal in my opinion.

>>6379623
Incredible tunes which i came to know only thanks to the doom pwads. Never played the game itself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Udj9YZUzmM&t=3156s

>>6379681
I agree. People should be able to speak their minds, but an overabundance of positivity or negativity creates a circlejerk either way. A levelheaded balance is the best way to ensure things are genuine.

>>6379663
There's nothing wrong with him

I think Blood sucks.

>>6379716
computer. translate.
> i suck at blood
that makes more sense

Don't know if I should keep going in Doom II tonight or one of the several WADs I was playing. Haven't played anything in a few days and now I'm reset to apathy mode.

>>6379650
No. You stupid fuck.
Sorry but ive seen this take posted a few times now and its really annoying. Blood already had a resurgance due to sourceports before Civvie covered it. And even before that it was well-regarded among retro fps enthusiasts. Its not like he unearthed it from total obscurity.

>>6379351
Don't you fucking start with Quake.

>>6377540
where does this doom 1 style hayden comes from?
is anyone making a wad about him?

>>6379543
I am him. I actually decided not to go that route, though I'm honored someone actually saved my work to their computer. Thanks anon. It really motivates me for my current Doom projects. Pic related for proof. It's a screenshot of the Blender project.

>>6379590
We don't mention him because it causes drama.

Can the new D64 episode be played in regular Doom64 EX? If so, is there a download for the episode anywhere?

>>6379351
Quake's development may have been a mess, but the resulting game came out absolutely amazing.

>>6379836
Someone ported it to EX I believe. I think you can find it on the steam forums.

No idea why you'd play it on EX instead of the steam port, though.

>>6379663
>makes safe and generally agreeable statements about games that are decades old, basically just regurgitating points reviewers made about the game from old zines and touting them as his own; complete with an obnoxious, over the top voice
>liberally sprinkles his own shitty Channel Awesome/Plinkett style of humor on top of his voice gimmick, interrupting the little content actually present in his videos - humorous for the first couple of times, but becomes unbearably cringe-worthy if you've graduated high school
>acts like a retro gaming 'old-hand', titling most of his videos PRO [GAME] while doing shit like copious mid-level saving, frequently having to downgrade the difficulty of the game because he can't learn mechanics, etc.
>has descended to full shilldom, with his Doom '16 video being a magnificent showcase of saying nothing and not articulating any of the reasons why he enjoyed the game; blind praise in hopes that Todd "See that wall? Doom Slayer can climb it!" Howard will throw him a cheque like the good goy he is.
Oh, and also:
>he's a fat fuck

youtube man bad

>>6379886
youtube anime dog good

>>6379512
Thanks for the feedback anon

>>6379883
>liberally sprinkles his own shitty Channel Awesome/Plinkett style of humor on top of his voice gimmick, interrupting the little content actually present in his videos
Eh, I find them to be so short to the point it barely matters.

the virgin civvie
the chad decino

bigmacdavis is the only good youtuber

HaoaH

>>6379482
Being an ideas guy is fine, but you should also learn to do something as well.

Romero is a massive Ideas Guy, but he's also a very talented level designer, and he did some of the programming on the iD titles as well. Likewise, Sandy is another massive Ideas Guy, and also a talented level designer (for more than just FPS), on top of a good writer who has some famous tabletop roleplaying games to his belt.

(youtuber I like) is the only good youtuber

>>6379940

>>6379943
Because unlike you mindless drones, mine aren't just regurgitating safe opinions everyone already agrees with and pretending to be le pro retro gamer.

>>6379951
>tfw to intelligent

https://twitter.com/kinsie/status/1255134009530576896

>>6379491
You forgot to unpeg a few door sides and I think there are some untextured faces around the lava waterfalls in the first mancubus room.

The short steps that seem like they can be almost climbed, but aren't, are rather disorienting and make traversal less smooth. Also if you run out too fast from the starting area hallway you can pretty much fly over the chaingun and miss to pick it up, maybe push the weapon back a bit.

The plasma rifle secret is barely a secret at all. Instead I think it'd be better to have the weapon out in the open and then put a couple of cell packs in a less obvious secret area. Though you do get a plasma rifle in the room with lost souls, but there it felt too deliberate in a sense of designer's intent being too obvious. Basically saying "here are some lost souls and here's a plasma rifle, go wild." It's not necessarily bad but it's too much on the nose.

Way too many hell knights and revenants, especially during the red stairs section and the areas it leads into. Perhaps reduce the number of ambushes in that area, in particular on the stairs. The archvile felt like a kick in the guts, especially in that area with his attack being hard to avoid as you run off the stairs.

The top area of the stairs near bookcases could be extended to the end of the wall, as otherwise trying to get on it becomes too slippery and it's easy to fall off. I like how you can sprint on the bookcases, but It's a bit of a letdown that getting to the end of it leads nowhere. Also the items up there could be better arranged so the player can get most of them in one or two run overs.

Honestly the map is a slog as it's too long and there's too many enemies. After a dozen tries I got to the room with the second archvile and pain elementals and gave up. Nicely looking rooms, but you gotta work on the pacing.

Don't want to put you down anon as designing maps isn't easy, but keep at it and look more for inspiration in D1 maps instead of D2's.

>>6379963
What even happens when you forget to unpeg doors? Usually Doombuilder does that by default.

>>6379623
I think ROTT is an incredible game, but it was overshadowed like fuck by Doom.

>>6379663
I find myself often disagreeing with him, but he's ok.

>>6379989
his videos are saved by the editing. if they weren't half as well edited no one would give a shit about him like the million other retro youtubers.

Are there any good wads that expect me to enable jumping through gzdoom or a pk3 mod? I'd love to play Doom with some verticality

Civvie kicked my dog.

>>6379995
Any wads that expect you to jump usually have that already enabled by default.

>>6379951

Or maybe Civvie genuinely likes the things he likes

You know, like a normal fucking human being

I'm not sure how you think opinions are supposed to work but you don't just arbitrarily stake one out because it might piss off someone else.

>>6379963
Thanks anon, the map I'm working on now is a pretty radical shift in direction towards a more Doom 1 style flow actually, with a length goal of no more than 5 minutes, so I'm glad I'm on the right track.

>>6380006
>you don't just arbitrarily stake one out because it might piss off someone else
here's my opinion: you are a genuinely naive human being if you believe that

>>6380003
And do you know any?

>>6379603
there is a mercenaries mod, saw one in the icaruslives channel

>>6380019

So you're saying that you don't actually have any genuine opinions of your own? The exact same thing you were railing against earlier?

>>6380019
>>6379951

>>6380006
>>6380036
It's not about having 'genuine opinions' or whatever. I don't doubt Civvie actually believes in the shit he says. It's just that his opinions are fucking boring and safe, they add nothing of any value to the discussions of those games. People only care about him due to his editing and shitty cult of personality.

>>6379969
It makes the door sides move with the door when opened.

>>6380047

So people have to specifically stake out artificial opinions they don't actually have just for you?

>>6380059
No? I'm just saying Civvie is a crap youtuber that needs to rely on his personality instead of actual good content. If anything, he shouldn't be a content creator to begin with since he's not cut for it.

>>6380064
please cease your fedora tipping.

>>6380068
Didn't know that having minimun standards was fedora tipping. Thanks for telling me.

Can't we just agree that at least he's better than GmanLives?

>>6380072
>minimum standards
Not even him, but you're a dumbass

>>6380047
>It's just that his opinions are fucking boring and safe
I dunno, he's probably the only retro fps youtuber who has made a positive review for Plutonia. At least, that I'm aware of.

>>6380115
I'm pretty sure decino hasn't said anything bad about Plutonia.

>>6380124
Decino doesn't do reviews, though.

>>6380115
When I say boring and safe, I mean within doom communities like this one. He's definitely better than pretenders like gggman

>>6379995
Try The Alfonzone.

>>6380129
Sorry, thought you meant general opinions.

>>6380130
>When I say boring and safe, I mean within doom communities like this one
Eh, but at that point, it just seems like you're looking for a reason to criticise more than anything.

>>6379663
I think the dislike towards people who present themselves to be more knowledgeable on a topic than they actually are is understandable. Especially when they make it a part of their identity and even more so if they're making a profit from it. When someone benefits more from their personality, presentation and mass appeal, rather than genuine insight, information and display of skill it makes one doubt the validity of their opinions.

Doesn't help how these supposed retro gamers bring in their own equally clueless followers into the communities, which in general brings down the discussion. Furthermore their popularity in turn has them become some sort of a representative of the community and with that comes the possibility of their ill informed, superficial opinions having a greater impact. This doesn't really pertain to this particular case, but happens in general with communities and these so called e-celebs.

They are just common people no different than you and me, but because they can talk in a mike over some neatly edited gameplay footage, their options become more relevant, or are at least perceived as such. This is what I feel most people have a problem with overall.

>>6380137
Do you watch youtubers to just say things you already agree with while making funny jokes? That's kind of what I'm getting at here. He doesn't add much other than being a funny yes man. It's why I prefer let's players being good at the game or analyses like decino's.

>>6380150
>Do you watch youtubers to just say things you already agree with while making funny jokes?
I don't even agree with every opinion that Civvie has. I like TNT for example, where as he clearly doesn't.
Again, it just seems like you're trying to find reasons to dislike Civvie, rather than having any genuine dislike for him.

>>6379895
Who?

>>6380150

2bqh famalamadingdong you're starting to sound like you dislike civvie because he...


...wait for it...

...says shit you don't agree with

Gordon is a fucking psychopath.

>>6380189
>muh HECU boys dindu nuffin

>>6380170
Did you read my post or are you just stupid? I literally called him a yes man.

i get disliking it when someone has differing opinions to yours
but disliking someone for agreeing is a fucking new one

also
> boring opinions
opinions arent fucking movies, they dont need to entertain you

>>6380189
He's a highly-trained professional

>>6380246
>>6380189
>implying he needs to hear all this

>>6380245
Then why do you watch people like Civvie, if it's not for entertainment? He says nothing new or worthwhile, just the same shit you see in every discussion on /vr/. All that he has going for him is his entertainment value. I don't even disagree that he is fun; but being just fun is shallow as hell.

>>6380264
>just the same shit you see in every discussion on /vr/
Same reason you're here, I guess.

>>6380282
I'm here more for news and to see wad creators and their progress. Discussing with random anons is fun too, and not an one-sided experience like youtube.

>>6380289
>I'm here more for news and to see wad creators and their progress.
But you only get the filtered, safe stuff here.

Like a youtuber's opinion.

Making an HL mod. What's a good resource for textures?

>>6380293
Not that guy but these posts I've been reading are on par with youtube comments.

>>6380109
yes

>>6380234

Dude if you're incapable of seeing your own bullshit for what it is I can't help you.

>>6380293
>But you only get the filtered, safe stuff here.
That's not true at all. Did you forget where are you posting? Also
>whiteknighting a youtube channel
My dude I hope the other anon doesn't keep responding to you since you really need to take a step back and rethink what you're doing here.

Avactor with High Noon Drifter is a good time.

>>6379623
It's only reason for existence was to provide future generations of doom mappers and modders with spiffy midis and rocket launcher sprites.

>>6380297
textures.com, formerly CGTextures.

Cool Skies 2 is migrating to Freedoom! I like its textures (it has many more textures than Doom 1/2, by the way), and since monsters and weapons will be custom, shit sprites are not going to be a problem.

is anyone else not able to get over the autism of not wanting to ever use custom weapons?

>>6380463
You need to expose yourself gradually. First, use Smooth Doom. Then Final Doomer. In no time you will become a huge pleb who plays Guncaster and Russian Overkill on ever mapset.

What's wrong with Civvie?
what's wrong with Gman?

>>6380483
>Civvie
He refuses to suck that anon's cock
>Gman
He refuses to suck my cock

>>6380485
accurate and apt

Which one will become a tranny first, civvie or gman?

>>6380483
What's wrong with anon(You)?

>>6380517
Too much to measure, buddy. But I'll suck that one guy's cock.

>>6380517
he refuses to suck his own cock

>>6380483
Civvie is a hardcore doom fanboy who will in one video praise something dumb before in the next berate a game for doing the same thing. Gman is an easily amused casual who probably spent way too much time on /v/.
>Stands around to reload so he gets shot to death
>"Hah wow this game is hard and hard=good so that means this game is good!

What's wrong with bigmacdavis?

>>6380531
he's a brony with a weird voice

>>6380483
>What's wrong with Civvie?
A fan of Postal2 and Serious Sam, classic fps not his genre. He said Hexen is bad.
>what's wrong with Gman?
He said Blood Fresh Supply good, and Sigil is bad.

>>6380568
>A fan of Serious Sam
Not really, no, he doesn't like it much.

>>6380568
>A fan of Postal2 and Serious Sam
Have you not seen his Serious Sam video? He's anything but fan.
>classic fps not his genre
He's a big fan of Buld games, though.

>>6380564
His voice is cute fuck you.

but why does he torture himself with the dos garbage
why does he wear the hat
if i take it off, will he die?

greetings, everyone

>>6380568
>not liking postal 2

>>6380586
> about a year ago
> someone posts a trivia video
> gets almost no replies. maybe a few "huh, neat"
> turns to breakout success

>>6380586

greetings

>>6380595
ngl I've not seen any of his playthrough videos

Man, I really love Spawning Vats

>>6380586
does decino do speedruns? I want to see him and zeromaster do something together

>>6380568
>He said Hexen is bad
Hexen kinda is bad though

>>6379883
I don't see what about liking something equates to you being a shill but okay.

>>6380601

Based

>>6379175
old link for Desolate in the news

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4i01os0bbby9ayz/Desolate%20v1.1%20for%20real%20this%20time.7z?dl=0

>>6380601

Say what you will about the Tom Hall maps, they had a certain soul to them that Romero and Sandy's didn't.

>>6380605
I don't think so, but I remember him accidentally getting the UV Max record on one of TNT's map.

>>6379319
>original image made by me - PNG, 109kb
>reposted image - exactly same but - JPG, 1.65 Mb
This triggers me for some reason

>>6380674
How did the reposter even accomplish such feat? What the fuck.

>>6380674
>>6380678
Reposter here, I have no fucking clue. The one I posted is the one I got first.

>>6380674
classic

Are there any good tutorials for Ultimate Doom Builder?

>>6379443
"creative director" also supposed to know what every part of the team is capable of doing, and manage the ideas so they stay within realms of capability for the current team, he also supposed communicate between different departments that perform creative work, and to make sure that all the "creative" elements - music, visual design, visual fidelity etc. stay on generally comparable quality levels (Doom Remake is what happens when you don't have a skill to do that).
Basically he's supposed to be a manager that knows what everyone should be doing, when something is done wrong and direct it in the right direction.
He should also have enough skill in all the areas he oversees to understand what everyone is doing - without that you get shit result.

>>6379883
At least he's somewhat competent with analysis and rarely overlooks things
case - his and GMans reaction to Fresh Blood.
I know a LOT of popular reviewers with hundreds of thousands subs who flat out lack any sort of diligence and are likely to miss any prt of the game if its beyond the surface level.

>>6380695
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UJWEe2_a3s
this kid seems like he knows what he's doing. I used his series to learn the basics and the rest you kind of pick up with googling specifics, reading manual, and time.

>>6379883
>>6380483
>>6380264
Civvie is not really a reviewer
His format is more akin to a Playthrough/LetsPlay, but all the crap boring parts are cut out, and only parts left are ones he wants to comment on/talk about.
So in essense a concentrated commentary of his playthrough of the game and all the noteable parts he encountered in order he encountered them.
And that is exactly his apeal for many - ability to see the playthrough of a game from someone else's perspective without the need to sit through the boring parts as well.

>>6380568
>He said Hexen is bad.
Yeah that was odd because Hexen is irredeemable garbage

>>6379491
Good start bro. Maybe make spaces smaller w/ less enemies, otherwise thought you did a pretty good job. Keep at it.

WTF Doom looks like THAT?

https://youtu.be/wkJwfymrD9Y

All hail to GZDOOM

https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/31045-4chan-external-sounds

testing

>>6380749
getting fucking quake 4 vibes the fuck

>>6380651
Sandy was the one who finished Tom's maps and made them good, though.

>>6379995
Golden Souls series.

>>6380651
Tom didn't even finish his maps. He left them half assed. In other words your knowledge of them being "made" by Tom Hall gave you a placebo effect thinking it somehow separated itself from other maps and had more "soul", which is just a buzzword used by people who have no clue how to actually explain something and probably don't even have an actual reason in the first place.

>>6380568
>He said Hexen is bad.
Hey just like /vr/, glad we're on the same page (for the most part, there's some hexen apologists out there).

>>6380586
based

>>6380586
Currently tearing up Sunlust and he doesn't edit out all of his failed level attempts. King

>>6380779
Maybe he likes the Wolf3D-tier mazes that Tom put in most of his maps. Even though Sandy/Romero are responsible for everything appreciable about those mazes, anyway.

>>6380672
Which map was that?

>>6380803
Map15

>>6380751
sauce on image?

>>6380483
Civvie isn't too bad, but his videos can be a bit "and then this happens, and then that happens" at times. I'm disappointed he cancelled his TNT video.

Gman is terrible at doom, but has too much of an ego to admit it. He claims final doom is artificial difficulty. Sigil pretty much kicked his dog too, apparently, judging by his temper in that video.

>>6380824
>his videos can be a bit "and then this happens, and then that happens"
Well, literally what >>6380730 said, it's like a heavily concentrated "lets play", not a review

>>6380483
Gman genuinely feels like he was born out of /vr/, but takes both good AND shit opinions from here. However when he got popular he caught on the mainstream "hackur known as 4chan bad" and began to actively distance himself from it (by regularily mentioning how bad 4chan is on his vids), while spouting same shit opinions he got from his time here, notably his "hitscanners bad hur dur" rants that most often boil down to "If I can't circlestrafe it to death, it's bad".

>>6380749
I wonder who could have posted this...

>>6380841
This reminds me that I've always liked how Term has never condemned us even after he got more notorious in the community.

>>6380460
>it has many more textures than Doom 1/2, by the way
That's because it comes with plutonia/tnt textures.

>>6380568
>A fan of Postal2

>>6380651
Romero and Sandy finished Tom's maps. The reason they're good and playable is because of their effort, even if they didn't do 100% of the work on the maps.

wake me up when Golden Souls 3 releases

Japanese woman trying to read the end screen of Doom64.

https://twitter.com/OutofVTubers/status/1255413067531329539

What is wrong with Blood Fresh Supply?

>>6380926
Bloody hell how can people even watch this.

>>6380927
Everything

What the actual fuck is going on in this thread, it's ten times more hostile than usual

>>6380927
Short answer: everything.

Long answer: inaccurate, sloppy, low-effort cash grab funded by Atari/WB/whatever it is called.

>>6380932
its fun

>>6380932
Indeed, I've been saying for years how bad Doom 64 is compared to the original...

>>6380927
Use Nblood or BuildGDX instead.

>>6380521
>Gman is an easily amused casual who probably spent way too much time on /v/.
Somebody who spends too much time on /v/ is anything but easily amused. /v/ wouldn't have fun playing a video game if their life depended on it

>>6380927
Released as a rushed, hot mess of a source port and Nightdive was only allowed to continue working on it for a given amount of time.

>>6380943
How can it be fun to watch a barely moving picture uncannily twist and turn about for hours on end as a 30 something Japanese woman tries her hardest to sound like a midget for some attention? I don't hate anime, but this isn't really animated at all, it's like an unholy amalgamation of some of the most shallow, cancerous things out there. Dreadful to imagine how empty must be the lives of people that enjoy this.

Apologies for the off-topic rant, but things like this genuinely make me sad.

>>6380961
It's not a source port, it's (very poorly) made from scratch.

>>6380973
My mistake. Does Atari even have the source code proper?

>>6380964
Good for you.

>>6380975
Pretty much everybody who was involved with the game confirmed to have the source code, and are willing to prepare it for a proper release. But Atari/WB prefers to shit on the community (and on the actual developers of the game).

>tfw map23 of Ancient Aliens constantly dips in FPS for me

>>6380982
Because your PC sucks, and it's a miracle it even runs Windows! If you don't believe me, just ask any of the GZDoom developers.

>>6380824
>He claims final doom is artificial difficulty. Sigil pretty much kicked his dog too, apparently,
I hate the term "artificial difficulty" with a burning passion, but I agree with the sentiment that E4 is difficult in a way that's extremely frustrating and I never felt the urge to replay it after the initial playthrough. Sigil is peak Romero though, loved the hell out of it.
>>6380964
I know what you mean. I usually try not to condemn people for liking something, but this is just so jarring and incomprehensible... every time I see "Vtubers" I feel like I'm hallucinating. Shit's unreal. I thought entertainment wouldn't get weirder than watching people play games, yet here we are.

>>6380980
What the fuck

>Map 20 of lost civilization
>Got 6 keys
>Already hit 3 switches for the "exit"
>Killed 1300 enemies
WHERE THE FUCK DO I EVEN GO???

>>6381004
Well, it's has "lost" in the title for a reason.

>>6381008
The civilisation that produces this kind of maps is truly lost.

>>6380993
>I hate the term "artificial difficulty" with a burning passion
I agree but at the same time I think the term is real, just not for Doom. Either a map is beatable or it isn't. A good map maker will place just the right amount of health and ammo for someone to proceed. "Artificial difficulty" should be reserved for RNG bullshit. Like if in your FPS game enemies can throw unavoidable instant death grenades and your ability to proceed depends on if the AI decides to throw a grenade or not. Or in an RPG if an enemy has the ability to crit and kill your character at any time with no realistic way to play around it or something. The original Street Fighter games were infamous for having the AI perform impossible combos not even a tool assisted player could perform. This was done to suck quarters from players.

>>6380936
WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY YOU LITTLE BITCH?

Uploaded my playthrough of map03 of 100 minutes of /vr/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vMQkqpHsb4
Considering the hot discussion in this thread, I think I should go easy on posting links to avoid annoying people. Maybe only when I finish the wad. Anyway, this playthrough contains some very embarassing platforming and pronunciation. But it's fun!

>>6380926
cute

>>6380939
It's not so much that there wasn't effort put in, it's that nuAtari stopped Nightdive from putting further effort in after a certain point.

>>6380927
It's a double burn
>serious problems upon release
>Nightdive starts working to fix it up, people reporting bugs and them actually getting fixed
>Atari tells Nightdive to stop working on patching it because "it won't make us any more money"

>>6380926
Engrish is cute.

>>6381025
Instead, they got youtubers/influencers to shill for them to keep the project profitable. How clever.

>>6381025
>>6381028
And by the way, do they even deserve to be called Atari regardless of their legal ownership of the name? It's a fucking euro faggotry, and used to be called Infogrames anyway. They have nothing to do with the Atari we think of when we hear the name.

>>6381031
>>6381034
Again, put the blame on nuAtari for that.
Being honest, I think both classic Atari and Infogrames playing Weekend At Bernie's with its corpse are shitty companies.

>>6381045
Hey, it's a girl, so no one can make inappropriate jokes regarding the placement of the Caco.

>>6381049
Strap-ons exist, dude.

>>6381049
what caco? you mean the censorship pixelization?

What are good vanilla textures for hell that aren't endless wood or marble?

>>6381101
Black rock, red rock, lava, blood, flesh, some rusty metal here and there.

>>6380109
>>6380841
The main issue with Gmanlives is that it feels like a guy who pretends to be an expert to the subject and focuses making the same jokes too many times.
Plus he makes those reviews way too fast when the game is barely a week old.

I liked Civvie's video on Eternal because he gave constructive criticism on how the game flaws and so did the same with classic Doom.
Gmanlives and many others,especially on Social Media have to praise them like they're untouchable masterpieces.

>>6380932
Yeah, that font is absolutely atrocious. No wonder that doggo could barely read it.

>>6381106
I forgot to mention that I need to texture a large tall open room of irregular with it, so they need to tile well for this and not cause eye cancer. I guess TANROK and BSTONE families are my best option, though I don't like them much.

Does anyone have a guide to get Nehahra for Quake working, including the film Seal of Nehahra? It apparently works with glquake and DarkPlaces, but I can't get it to function properly with either.

>>6381018
>embarassing pronunciation
You sound like a slavic version of decino, and that's a good thing

>>6380946
>pic related

Lambda mod is actually far more fun than I expected with different monster packs.
HL weaponry is so good.

Why is my lower texture on lower-unpegged linedef scrolls when I raise ceiling in front of it? This makes no sense.

>>6381236
What textures are those?

>>6381249
Duke 3D textures.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/s7e640agfq9ft2r/Duke_SiN_mod.zip?dl=0

>>6381261
Thanks, anon.

I started Sunder and I'm already getting filtered by MAP02, that last horde of revenants is tough I never have enough rockets.

>>6380982
Just finished that map. Honestly, probably my least favourite level in Ancient Aliens so far. It's not outright terrible, but the combat just wasn't to par with the rest of mapset for me. Seemed like it relied far too much on teleporting monsters into areas, which got a bit old fast. Such a shame, because it is visually great, and has a quite a memorable entrance.

>>6381269
>Sunder
Good lord, you're a madman.

>>6380749
btw the new PB demon gun looks amazing

>>6381279
That's an unholy frankensprite of different pieces from Eriance and OSCJ guns

>>6379174
ZSDFEdit updated to v1.4.1.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1149214#p1149214

Bunch of stuff was fixed and added. The biggest changes from v1.2.0, which I posted ages ago are: localization support for exported dialogs, importing compiled Strife dialogs for export to ZSDF, refactored code that's less of a nightmare to maintain, and overhauled navigation UI, last of which made the editor perform a dozen better compared to the old tree view piece of shit.

Armagon was such a lame boss. I expected more out of him.

>>6381236
This is super sounding man, but I can't get the weapons to show up. Proper loading order, too.

>>6381340
t. didn't play on Nightmare.

>>6381352
Try to play it with the latest version of GZDoom,that's weird because it always work.

>>6381150
I woludn't watch it without fastforward tbqh, so consider youtube

for the mod, the most "stable" option is nehquake_bjp from here: http://bjp.fov120.com/
there are a number of downsides to that port though, so as alternatives you can try markv, requiem or directq

>>6381371
Yeah I figured it out. I run GZDoom in software mode normally, had to turn on hardware rendering.

>>6380586
The only one I like because he isn't an unfunny faggot and he actually knows what he is talking about. Fuck all these meme reviewers posing as pros.

>>6380926
>virtual youtubers

what fresh hell is this

>>6381384
Holy shit that's an obscure link. Does markv, requiem, or directq support playmod? Before you posted I spent the last hour or so rigging it with DP, and it does work 100%, but the music is in some obscure format called .xm, which apparently only works with nehahra's engine (which that link has). I don't mind using glquake since I know the music works on it, but if it works on better sourceports then hey ho I'll do it.

>>6381414
To be innocent again...
They're just Let's Players except they use facial recognition software to pretend to be anime girls, and if it's a man doing it it usually is a man a voice changer.

>>6381418
I know requiem definitely supports tracker music, markv probably does as well. but there are only three or so instances of music actually playing, so you wouldn't be losing much either way

>>6381424
Alright, man I'm stoked. Thanks.

>>6381418
>some obscure format called .xm
Confirmed to have never lived in the DOS era. (Neither did I, but I was always interested in it so I trained myself.)

>>6381419
Oh cool, so the cancer is mutating into an even worse form of cancer? Wonderful.

>>6380980
I've been saying this for years now, Atari (or rather Infogrames who bought the rights to the name Atari) is a pile of shit and Bruno Bonell is an oblivious hack fraud that made money through a series of flukes. Every series they've owned the rights to went down the shitter fast, while Deiver got the best reboot known to man after Atari sold the rights to Ubisoft.
The world needs to know. I think I ought to bash them on some blog or something, for closure

Any wads that can be sold commercially (like No rest for the living or Sigil)?

>>6381419
>they use facial recognition software
It's a bit more complicated than that, and usually it's more than one person behind a vtuber.

>>6381445
They were never meant for the West, and to be honest, if they help in making games like Doom popular in Japan, I have nothing against them.

>>6381448
Anything that doesn't contain commercial assets which you don't own.

>>6381447
Had to look up who he is, but top kek. Pretty much exactly what I imagined.

>>6381448
Any wad can be sold commercially if it doesn't use copyrighted material. That doesn't mean people will buy them but you 100% can sell just a normal-ass level set with or without weapon/monster mods as long as any custom assets you use aren't copyrighted, because all of the actual DOOM assets are in the IWAD, not your PWAD, and you need the former to play the latter (though Freedoom works).

>>6381450
>if they help in making games like Doom popular in Japan, I have nothing against them
That'd be great desu, the Japs have largely missed out on FPS, and I think that they would really appreciate a lot of the older ones.

>>6381424
>>6381428
Last thing, does Requiem support square particles? Can't find anything on this.

If I was interested in adding Boom compatibility features to an engine, is there a comprehensive list somewhere of what I'd need to add?

>>6381462
doesn't seem so. though it also has those external particles, so in theory you could do square particles via a pure white particle font (same as somebody done for darkplaces)

I just got myself 100% natural ghost imp emerged from the wall. How the fuck could that have happened.

Can lifts turn imp corpses ghostable?

>>6381462
actually, there's apparently a fork that adds them: https://github.com/c-d-a/reQuiem/releases

>>6380939
Bit disingenuous.

>>6380568
>He said Hexen is bad
Hexen isn't great, homie. It's got a lot of problems. Neat idea that was underbaked.
I like it, but I 100% understand why other people don't. It's better coop anyways.
If it didn't take so much precious time I'd consider making a mod to fix the game and make it more fun. It's mostly just level design issues, but if it were me I'd add in heretic weapons dispersed among the classes as well.
Not like how whatever the fuck that other mod is does it, something more tasteful.

> 8 teleport pads, each with 4 different sides leading to different directions

Why am I doing this to myself?

>>6381492
I don't think so, no. Crushers ofc can.

>>6379661
Also the first game to ship with official maps made exclusively multiplayer deathmatch but it never usually gets credit for that either. In fact I think alot of people only know that because of John Romero having to refute Tim Willit's claim of coming up with the idea for multiplayer only deathmatch maps himself during the development of Quake.
>Commercially, the first FPS's published with multiplayer-only maps at launch were Tom Hall's Rise of the Triad (ROTT) and Bungie's Marathon, both published on December 21, 1994 – 18 months before Quake's release. Marathon included 10 multiplayer-only maps. Each successive release of ROTT added more multiplayer-only maps. In fact, ROTT had several multiplayer modes beyond co-op and team deathmatch. Tom was very inventive when it came to ROTT's multiplayer modes and maps, long before Quake was released. As Tom remembers, "Yes, it had a TON of multiplayer maps. Many with unique rules, ridiculous heights, etc."

>Tim cannot claim this idea as his in any way.
https://rome.ro/news/2017/8/30/multiplayer-only-maps

>>6381553
imagine what sandy's maps would've looked like if doom inherited spinners from pc rpgs

>>6381553
Ah yes I also enjoy Unholy Cathedral

>>6381572
Keep your voice down, you fool

>>6381576
Spinners?

>>6381587
ye, it's when in a fpp turn-based rpg you step on a square and get spun around randomly. keep in mind that these normally wouldn't have an automap either

>>6381576
Imagine how abstract Sandy's maps would be if he made them today with today's new mapping tricks and possibilities. Or imagine what traps Plutonia devs could think up in the same situation.

>>6381493
>>6381473
Fucking wonderful, man. Thanks for all your posts.

>>6381340
You are going to HATE the final boss of Dissolution of Eternity. The unofficial mission pack, Abyss of Pandemonium, is easily weaker as a product compared to Scourge and Dissolution, but Abyss' final boss was actually the most challenging and enjoyable of the three mission packs. Worth it if you're starving for a good Quake boss.

>>6381595
I actually set up this kind of shit specifically so player won't spin randomly. It's still kinda stupid but I just really wanted to make player cross the room by teleporting.

>>6381572
Rise Of The Triad was also the first FPS with true rocket jumping. You needed to perform one to get the good ending.

>>6381597
It'd be interesting to see. I'm not sure his visual style would evolve all that much, but with the stronger computers and ports we have today, he would have to be less careful about visplanes.
If you look at his YouTube channel, he's as sharp as ever, talking about whatever horror movie, role playing game, or Lovecraft related thing that fancies him. It'd be neat to see him make at least one map, maybe it could be a secret bonus map if Romero ever does another set of levels for Doom (or maybe it could be Quake?).

Why do I feel so dirty for stealing enemy sprites from Mutiny mod? It's just I couldn't find unzombified zombies anywhere else.
Also my blood puddles suck, I need to do something about it

>>6379174
I want to get into mapping for Doom. I would like to enforce pistol starts on all maps for my WAD. Would making every map exit a death exit be seen as a faux pas of sorts? Should I just not do that and let the players do whatever they want? I think I have an idea of how to balance maps for pistol starts, but I don't really know how I could keep it interesting with continuous-play because I don't usually play that way

Also, I want to make maps for Limit-Removing or Boom first, with ZDoom compat being secondary. What would be the biggest features I would miss if I go for limit-removing sourceport compat instead of Boom sourceport compat?

Hey lads, remember that one archvile from MAP07 of Plutonia that teleported around. Wasn't this fun?

>>6381673
Just credit the source

>>6381675
Pistol Start is stupid

>>6381682
You're stupid
gottem

>>6381685

>>6381673
Those non-zombie zombies with glowing blue eyes look like the sand people from that awful 80s Dune movie. Or was it intended?

This is a strobbery!
Quickly give me all your good Heretic maps!

Much better now.

>>6381689
Nah, I may try recolouring them.

>>6381675
>What would be the biggest features I would miss if I go for limit-removing sourceport
Earning the respect of GZDoom fanboys. Otherwise, nothing. If you want to map for Doom, map for Doom. Not for a specific port.

>>6381675
I am yet to discover anything that would work correctly in Crispy but not in GZ Doom.

>>6381693
>>6381696
I mean what main things I would miss going limit-removing (ie Crispy and PRB+ can play it) instead of Boom (ie Crispy can't play it but PRBoom+ can)

I know that I might rustle some ZDoom feathers but I don't really mind, seeing as any map that can be played on Crispy/PRB+ should be automatically playable in GZDoom, just not using its unique features

>>6381697
Boom has more actions, I think. Doom has some unexpected gaps in terms of what could buttons do and stuff.

>>6381692
Whoops, forgot pic. Anyway, operation "Remove fremen" is cancelled, too much effort required.

>>6381673
Make sure to credit where you took them from. Some people are picky about not wanting others to use their resources, but if you at least make it very clear in the credits where they're from, that's better than just taking them and saying nothing.

>>6381697
>I know that I might rustle some ZDoom feathers but I don't really mind
I don't think anyone really cares.
>I mean what main things I would miss going limit-removing instead of Boom
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Boom

>>6381675
>Should I just not do that and let the players do whatever they want?
Personally, I think that's the way to go. There's no right or wrong way to play Doom, so I'm not sure it make sense to enforce one. That said, the DUMP series enforced pistol starts, and no one complained.
All that being said, if you're just getting into Doom mapping, I wouldn't worry about making whole megawads or episodes and enforcing pistol starts. For now, start small, and focus posting individual maps and getting feedback. /vr/ loves to play /vr/ maps.

>>6381697
From what I understand the main things you lose from sticking with limit-removing over Boom are
>conveyor belts like in Heretic
>silent teleporters (allow for fake room-over-room a la Duke Nukem 3D)
>ice physics if you're the kind of asshole who would inflict those upon your players

>>6381690
This map is now my waifu.

>>6381724
>fake room-over-room a la Duke Nukem 3D
You mean sector-over-sector? Vanilla Duke never had ROR support.

>>6381728
Hence the "fake" part.

>>6381279
Did they finally fix the audio fuckery where the weapon sounds keep cutting each other off?

>>6381737
Not even fake ROR. Let me elaborate

-Sector-over-sector means when two sectors of different height occupy the same 2D space, but only possibly as long as no parts of the sector is visible for one another. You do this in Build by making your first sector, then make another one next to it. In 3D mode, adjust the second sector to be higher or lower than your first one. Then go back to 2D mode, grab your sector, and drag it over the first one.

-Fake room-over-room means two sectors that are constructed in different 2D spaces are rendered on top of each other ingame. Both of them can be visible at the same time. They are still not physically on top of each other, and this is usually shown on the automap as well. This technique was used by Blood and SW.

-True room-over-room means two (or more) sectors that occupy the same 2D space, yet fully traversable and visible all the time. This required the Build engine itself to be modified, so EDuke (the DOS version, not EDuke32) was the first source port to allow it.

>>6380749
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0YdqFPbSpc&t=62

this except doom instead of alcohol

>>6379174
What's the game?

>>6379174
Are there any family-friendly mods for Doom?

>>6381753
>>6381764
Chex Quest

Are there any ROTT source ports that aren't complete ass

even if there were you'd still end up playing a game that is ass

>>6381828

Eat my ass

>>6381841
Wrong game - it sounds like something Lo Wang would say.

>>6381329
>pic
I love it
>>6381753
HACX
>>6381821
WinROTTGL probably comes the closest. If only there was a Linux port.

>>6381867
Gravity just kicked in, yo!

>>6381867
look at him go

>>6381867
FASTER

>>6379995
rjumpextreme :)

>>6381697
there are two major differences between limit removing and boom compat.

first, boom has "generalized" line actions meaning you make any sort of door, lift, crusher etc with a variety of speeds, pauses, damage values, etc. limit removing on the other hand makes you use the subset of line actions that were actually hardcoded into the game by the developers.

second, boom has conveyor belts, which have become important for "voodoo scripting" where a voodoo doll is dragged down a hallway and activates any number of line actions in the order given, which is often used to implement scripted setpieces that the game doesn't otherwise provide for. this can be sort of done in vanilla using some advanced trickery but it's much easier and more universal in boom mapping.

>>6381907

>>6381867
>>6381934
>music makes you lose control

>>6381984

what kind of weak shit is this, go faster you asthma riddled fat fuck

>>6381934

F A S T E R

>Requiem map 14
>ending has you fighting 4 Revenants and an Archvile with almost no ammo

At least you get a Berserk at the start but still, what the fuck

Don't know if i showed this yet, but this is the level before the last one and it's meant to be a more change of pace before returning to short and sweet levels.
it's my first time making a slaughtermap, but it won't a very big one, if anything 100 monsters should be more than good, for this doom episode 1 replacement.

>>6381821
>>6381859
WinROTTGL is shitty, but Kaiser has been working on a better port.

>>6381953
>>6381957

>>6381971
was out of breath. here I go

I've hit the limits of gif. time to move beyond

>>6381867
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OyRL48ADjQ

>>6381882
>tfw no pain elemental polar bear crossover meme
>>6381969
>Kaiser has been working on a better port.
Thank goodness. That's exciting to hear. Hopefully it will have Linux support.

>>6381953
huh?!

Can't go faster than this.

>>6381584
What a rat bastard. You know he double down after being refuted by both Romero and Carmack? He bafflingly posted a clip of some work in progress multiplayer Quake map he had supposedly worked on at the time and said he was sticking to his story of coming up with it first and Carmack and Romero both telling him it was a dumb idea. Nevermind that iD themselves had posted an official deathmatch only map online by American McGee way before Quake as well.

>>6382005
>iD themselves had posted an official deathmatch only map online by American McGee way before Quake as well
I had no idea. What's it called? I'd love to take a look at it.

>>6382014
id Map01 baby

https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Id_Map01

>>6379174
I thought Chexman was savagely buttfucking that robot from the thumbnail

Do you guys know any comfy wads? Been feeling kinda down today so I don't feel like playing anything too challenging.

>>6381968
that background looks like ass, don't you want to add a more colorful one in there?

>>6382024
Biotech is Godzilla starts out very comfy.
Newbie, btw.

>>6381983
>>6381994

>>6382027
What is the background in this case?
is it the sky1?
also for the most part it's just gonna be 1 map the rest won't be like that.
(the sky is gonna stay however)

>>6382024
Golden Souls 2 is the ultimate in comfy.

>>6382005
That's it. No more Mister Nice Guy.

god, I miss /arena/

>>6382035
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7hDo29WVJI&t=2s

I found out recently there's a GDX port/remake of Legend of the Seven Paladins. Now that the game is actually playable and you don't get obliterated even by the weakest projectile based enemy on the easiest difficulty, I'd say it doesn't look bad at all, considering it was a LameDuke tier pre-alpha. Wonder how it would have stood up against its Western rivals if it would have been finished and properly released.

>>6382104
Don't scan this, it takes you to dolphin porn.

>>6382024
Pirate Doom would probably be a good one

>>6382104
thanks man that QR code just injected nerve gas into all of my employee's neocortex over our zoom call and i got promoted

>>6382104
Thanks for the hint, FBI is on its way.

>>6382019
>https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Id_Map01
Thanks, my dude. That's really cool.

>>6382104
I would scan this but I took an arrow to my phone

>>6381720
>>6379491
I'm just gonna reshill my level because it got covered up by fucking Eceleb bullshit

I normally play with Crispy Doom but want to play some level packs that require more advanced features. Is there a config I can grab somewhere that makes gzdoom look and feel as vanilla like as possible?

>>6379491
>GZDoom required
But why, why would you do that
did you reaaally need to do it like that

>>6382220
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=59412

>>6382224
To ensure I won't be able to play his wad.

>>6382220
Here you go buddy, Vanilla Essence, release candidate 2
https://forum.zdoom.org/download/file.php?id=36199
>>6382230
This is good for the info but ideally you'd want the RC2 version, it's the most up-to-date and it's not linked at the top. Buried a few pages in.

>>6382246
Wasn't aware there was a RC2, Thanks for the heads up.

>>6382230
>>6382246
Thanks anons, appreciate it.

is the XOps community still a thing?

>>6382259
wrong pic

>>6379174

Do you guys think it's possible to make Ultimate Doom fun to play? Trying to add challenge by playing on Nightmare no pistol start ultra fast monsters, but it just doesn't quite seem to cut it.

>>6382275
plat it with no running or strifing

>>6381182
>You sound like a slavic version of decino, and that's a good thing
Thank you. I cannot hear the similarities though.

>>6382281
>no strifing
well of course not anon, this is doom

Using Duke3D textures in Doom 2 levels kinda makes them more like an actual urban area.
Still look weird though.

Now Downtown looks like a dark sci-fi place.

>>6382290
...then why are you using the canyon texture for the walls of an urban building

>>6382305
oh thats an iwad map automatically retextured, nevermind

>>6382304
Downtown still looks kinda shit

>>6382275
I don't know how you could not have fun playing Doom. Even if I'm playing a bad map, the base gameplay usually carries it enough that I'll see it to the end.

>>6381675
Can't you just make every level it's own episode?

>>6382305
I didn't make the pack though.
Ask the creator,no amount of work can make Downtown look good though.

>>6382312
I like those "remap" wads of Doom 2 better when it comes to the city levels.
Downtown is terrible.

>>6382024
Chex quest

I thought Romero's E1M8 was pretty fun, however I wasn't really found of his take on E1M4. It was too big and there were a tad too many enemies. Felt more like a Doom 2 map more than anything. E1M8 just seemed to fit in better and didn't really feel out of place, like e1m4 did to me.

>>6382195
No problem man, I just love talking about these games and the history and personalities that surrounded and made them which is why I always like these threads. Lots of people here who really know their shit and people my age who experienced Wolf3D, Doom, ROTT, Duke, Blood, Shadow Warrior, etc. as they were happening.

>>6379491
I gotta level with you anon. It seems to me that you thought about how to make the map look pretty first, and what kind of encounters to put in second. Which is okay. But the encounters definitely took the backseat. I yawned through the whole map up until the last room with the dual archviles, the pain elementals and the barons, where I died for the first time. I understand you wanted some sort of grand finale but when the whole map is kind of an easy slog with ~200 monsters with uninteresting encounters, to just drop that in the end is a kick in the nuts, specially how GZDoom handles things.

I think you could've made this map much better if you had made it thinking of interesting encounters first and looks second. It looks like it has a lot of fancy dynamic lights thrown in for the sake of being pretty, but there's no real substance behind it

My advice would be - try to make maps that are playable in PRBoom+ or even Crispy. If you start off relying on GZDoom's features you're not likely to get a grasp on what makes engagements fun or interesting

Full disclaimer, I may be being too harsh and/or biased against maps that require GZDoom, but hey, it's my honest opinion.