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What 2D games for Playstation are good /vr/? Any obscure Japanese games that you can recommend? Pic related is the best western released shmup.

>> No.6360183

Mad Stalker, Strider 2, Little Ralph, Gunners Heaven and ofcourse Umihara Kawase Shun

>> No.6360186

Harmful Park lives up to the hype but not the price.

>> No.6360202

>>6360186
I'd choose parodius over harmful park any day. It's fun but I don't get why it's hyped so much.

>> No.6360207
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>>6360183
>Mad Stalker
Didn't know about this one.

>> No.6360214

>>6360202
Popular shmups discourse has been dominated by collectorfags for a long time so overpriced or rare games like that got a lot of attention, even tho most people talking about them hardly even played.

>> No.6360217

>>6360214
Zanac X Zanac is the best Jap shmup I've played, made by Compile, which also released Puyo Puyo Box which is an enhanced port of Sega Genesis Puyo Puyo 1/2.

>> No.6360318

Skullmonkeys is great if you enjoy challenging platformers.

>> No.6360331

>>6360202
I also think Parodius is better but the fact is more people have played it so it doesn't need to be highlighted as much.

>> No.6360332

>>6360170
last blade if you like fighting games, also shienryu is a good shmup

>> No.6360451

>>6360170
Castlevania Chronicles
Rayman
Oddworld

>> No.6360551

>>6360170
>best western released shmup

I was going to give some suggestions, but thinking R-Type is at all the best of anything is laughable. It's a shit game, and no it's not because of its difficulty. It's a sluggish, unbalanced mess and it's completely antiquated.

>> No.6360554

>>6360551
>NOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T TAKE AWAY ALL MY POWER UPS AND MAKE RECOVERY DIFFICULT JUST BECAUSE OF ONE DEATH! IT'S NOT FAIR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.6360558
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>>6360551
>completely antiquated.
huh.

>> No.6360565

>>6360170
R Type fuckin ownz

>> No.6360571

>>6360558
People think Plan 9 from Outer Space is a good movie. It doesn't make it true.

>> No.6360578

>>6360571
Never heard of it before.

>> No.6360583

>>6360571
No they don't lol

>> No.6360878
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>>6360170
The Adventure of Lomax is neat.

>> No.6360931

>>6360170
Legend of Mana, both Oddworld games, Bomberman Party Edition. There are more listed in a dedicated gif, but I don't have it.

>> No.6360938

>>6360554
the most fun part of r type for me is trying recover from difficult situations. I've reached the point where I can comfortably 1CC almost every time, but it feels relatively easy once you get geared up at the start to just mow through enemies until you make a silly mistake.

>> No.6360950

>>6360217
>Zanac X Zanac is the best Jap shmup I've played
best options music ever made
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOjlW8ONDm0

>> No.6360974

>>6360938
Yeah that's a major source of skill and excitement in checkpoint shmups, people who insta-restart if they die just make the games needlessly frustrating and take away a big part of the fun. Some checkpoints are kinda bullshit though, like the final checkpoint of stage 7

>> No.6360993

>>6360950
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68sagcUIWVw

>> No.6361001

>>6360583
Go on /tv/ or another hive of edgy internet contrarians and find out for yourself. /vr/ is pretty much the same things, but with retro games.

>> No.6361901

There is a webm lying somewhere with the best psx 2d games, someone post it.

>> No.6361921

>>6361001
I have and that doesn't happen, why are you making shit up? Moreover the comparison doesn't even work, Plan 9 was a shit movie when it released nobody liked it, and it's a shit movie now. R-Type? It was one of the biggest series around in its early days, the remakes sold fairly well and on top of that it just had a very successful kickstarter campaign.

>> No.6362029

>>6360170
Capcom ported some of their arcade games as stand alone PSX games.

Strider 1
Captain Commando
Cyberbots
Buster Bros collection
Street fighters
Darkstalkers
Super puzzle fighter 2

Am i missing any? Not including the capcom generation compilations.

>> No.6362060
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6362060

stealthily put this intruder here

>> No.6362062

>>6362060
That's Neo Geo level of animated tiles. Theoretically the SNES shouldn't be possible to handle that, very impressive.

>> No.6362078

>>6362060
What game?

>> No.6362080
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>>6362062
It's kinda sad that the PlayStation made this kind of game unpopular. But at the time gamers were tired of this and 3D was "impressive" ! Talking of neogeo, art of fighting 3 is a good example of how 2D could benefit from 3D technology. I know 2D pixel art purist don't like this, but a modern example of how far it can go is Dead Cells, I like to imagine if Saturn succeeded it would have gotten this kind of graphics.

>> No.6362083
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>>6362078
Rendering ranger R2

>> No.6362084

>>6362078
Rendering Ranger

>> No.6362516
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tomba

>> No.6363116
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>>6360183
>Umihara Kawase Shun
ty for this

>> No.6364893

Alundra
Blood Omen

>> No.6364903

>>6364893
+1 for Alundra

>> No.6364912

>>6360170
Gege no Kitarou

>> No.6364920

>>6360170
rapid reload

>> No.6366687

Wonder Project J2 for the nu-PS1

>> No.6366726

>>6366687
You're fucking retarded.

>> No.6366775

Engacho is a quirky puzzle game where you must not get shat on or hugged by hairy armpits

>> No.6366809

>>6360217
Second this. Its fucking amazing.

>> No.6366827

>>6360558
>>6360558
>>6360558

>that time some guys through an arcade game into Unity
>The title itself just includes the original and the second one
>Two of the hardest shoot'em ups ever made
>change virtually nothing about the games
>Leave in all the bullshit that turned people off from the game and drove them to play the scads of other much better SCHMUPS out there

Their is not one good complete fucking compilation out there for R-type and this abomination was literally a texture update with the same boring as R-type classic game play.

>> No.6366828
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>>6364893
Watch out for the soft locks.

>> No.6366849

>>6360554
>>6360558


R-type (as far as the original is concerned) is VERY, very, very, very antiquated.

That doesn't mean its not interesting to play, it just means a lot of much better games have pushed this genre forward over the years so going back and playing it doesn't have nearly the same charm. Visually I still think its fantastic, but it shares a lot of the problems early arcade games had- quarter munching-ly difficult with lots of memorization required to beat it. Newer games aren't designed the way R-type was, and its probably why it died after R-type Final offered literally the same shit that bogged down the games even after the Playstation 1 title.

>> No.6366885

>>6366849
Difficulty isn't a "problem" it's part of the fun especially when it's more about memorization than raw execution difficulty, means you can get further every run you do. If anything that kind of game design aged very well because now you can play it through ports or on emulators, with unlimited credits and save state practice eliminating all possible drawbacks.

The problem with R-Type is that the memorization just isn't fun, the levels are slow and boring without anything happening, it doesn't utilize its force pod in any interesting ways besides getting the occasional enemy wave coming from behind, and the difficulty comes in spikes that can be rendered trivial by using one of the many safe spots. The arguably outdated element of its design is the difficulty of recoveries, which Gradius later fixed with better rank implementation. But still, they are all recoverable, even the most notorious ones like the last boss checkpoint.

>> No.6366976

>>6360551
R-TYPE is so good it spawned multiple copy-cats and is getting a new game in the series even now.

>> No.6368664

>>6362060
Shame about the soundtrack.

>> No.6369137

>>6366827
You can disable the 3d graphics. Whats wrong the the PS1 compilation? Just emulate it and you have the best port.

>> No.6369140

>>6366885
r-type is fun, watching you embarrass yourself however isn't

>> No.6369143

>>6366885
A compilation of X-Multiply, R-Type, R-Type II and R-Type Leo in a single package would've been nice, the re-release is somewhat barren and the new 3d graphics dont add much, i agree.

>> No.6369157

>>6366849
>>6369143

>> No.6369167

>[game_you_like] sucks because of [things_that_make_game_good]
>NOOOOOOO THOSE THINGS ARE ACTUALLY GOOD!!! THE GAME IS NOT BAD!
/vr/ is the starving african child of 4chinks when it comes to bait.

>> No.6369459

>>6362084
That game is terrible. It's a nice tech demo but the controls and level design are amiga tier garbage. Because it's made by mr amiga himself - manfred trenz. All his games are like that, derivative shameless ripoffs of japanese games that don't know how to recreate the design and gameplay. But they all look nice.

>> No.6369520

There was at least a few infographics on this. Likely in the desu arhcive.

>> No.6369521
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>>6369520

As expected.

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>>6369521

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>>6369523

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>>6369526

>> No.6369531
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Little Ralph.

>> No.6369535
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>>6369531

>> No.6369540

>Gradius Gaiden
>Gaia Seed: Project Trap
>Rapid Angel
>Castlevania Chronicles
>Detana! TwinBee Yahho!
>Wolf Fang: Kuhga 2001
>Jikkyō Oshaberi Parodius ~forever with me~
>Raiden DX
>Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure
>Arc The Lad Collection
>Thunder Force V: Perfect System

>> No.6369558
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Milano no Arubaito

>> No.6369617
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Panzer Bandit

>> No.6369624

>>6369531
>Tomba meets Megaman X

Eh, I'm not that impressed by this.

>> No.6369685

>>6366828
for which one?

>> No.6369689

>>6369523
Redpill me on Community Pom.

>> No.6369698

Playing Gex. It's a good game, though I heard 3DO version has better graphics

>> No.6369989
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>>6369540
>Thunder Force V: Perfect System
This

>> No.6369995
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does 2D perspective/movement count?

>> No.6370054

>>6369995
Yes

>> No.6370283

Arkanoid R 2000
Bust-a-move 99
Puzznic
Cotton Fantastic Night Dreams

>> No.6370298

>>6370283
Turnabout
Puchi Carat

>> No.6370412

>>6360170
Legend of Mana and Saga Frontier 2.

>> No.6370607

>>6369689

>Japanese only
>Link to the Past clone
>Little girl
>she raises little animal helpers

Not ground breaking, but the game is kinda cute. Since Brave Prove and Linkle Liver Star was translated, I hope this is next.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxOuaKc-Xm4

>> No.6370645

What are some cool PS1 shmups like R Type Delta and Einhander? I don't exactly know how to describe them as opposed to other shmups

>> No.6370659

>>6370645
No idea what you mean but I'm going to go ahead and say Thunder Force V, G-Darius, RayStorm and

>> No.6370675

>>6370659
And what anon? Did Candlej-

>> No.6370702

Childhood is thinking mednafen is good
Adulthood is realising EPSXE is superior

>> No.6370705

>>6370645

Japanese call them Shooting Games (STG). Sat-PS had a lot of good ones. A lot of them were ports and many were cross platform and some better on Saturn. My favorites:

>Gradius Gaiden
>Thunder Force V (might be better on SAT)
>Harmful Park
>R-Type Delta
>Gaia Seed: Project Seed Trap
>Zanac X Zanac
>Darius Gaiden

https://www.racketboy.com/retro/phenominal-playstation-ps1-2d-shooters-shmups-library

>> No.6370735

>>6360170
I liked Delta better. May as well play the originals on MAME instead of a PS1

>> No.6370790

>>6370645
Xevious 3D/G is good, fairly underrated imo.

Zanac X Zanac is the best shmup.

>> No.6370794

>>6370705
Darius Gaiden sucks on the PS1. Download the PC version if you want to play it.

>> No.6370802

>>6370645
Cotton fantastic night dreams is good if you like cute em ups. It has a cool horror theme with anime girls.

>> No.6370809

>>6370794

there was a pC version?

>> No.6370814

>>6370809
Yes and also for G-Darius.

>> No.6370819

>>6370809
https://www.myabandonware.com/game/darius-gaiden-dgt

https://www.myabandonware.com/game/g-darius-cjj

>> No.6371249

>>6370819

wow

>> No.6371513

>>6370705
>>Gaia Seed: Project Seed Trap

neat and odd game. english and japanese voice acting. Gradius style clone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGTslpyF_lE