/vr/ - Retro Games

>>6362946
right

inb4 play on the console connected to a crt

>>6362961
You should though. With your phone and computer turned off

>>6362946
This is all subjective, so use which one looks good to you, but sometimes when I play games with 3D models on a 2D background, I upscale the polygons for a nice anti-aliased effect, and use a scanline+blurring filter to smooth out the backgrounds and menus. It sounds counterintuitive at first, upscaling and then blurring, but on my monitor it looks pretty good to my eyes.

i recommend crt royale: xm29 or svideo

pgxp+supersampling+adaptive smoothing

>>6362946
if you're that much of an indecisive fuck just flip a coin

If you're using pc just use the remako textures, there's no point of filtering that.

>>6362946
They both look like ass. Install The Reunion to fix that shit.

This is a really awesome thread OP, thank you. Personally I think we should stop having threads that aren't about Final Fantasy 7. Rename the board /ff7/, maaaaybe allow a general thread for the other games. But this thread is definitely a step in the right direction, so thank you.

>>6363903
lmao that looks beyond awful
A high poly, textured Cloud running around on a 320×240 background layer? I've seen some creative troll posts on this board but this...it's just exquisite.
>>6363173
S O U L

>>6363903
That's horrible, just get the hp/mp/attack mod and play it on psp, dyke nigger.

>>6363903
SQUARE

>>6363903
>Reunion
That mod where the gun the background is bigger than the playable characters

>>6363903
>>6363930
If that anon was smart he would get the SYW upscaled texture pack.

>>6364061
look how big the cigarettes are, kek.

>>6364067
I just checked that out. In my opinion, it totally removes the character from the game. This is not the FFVII I remember.
I hate when people over mod a classic title and try to "improve" it. Total re-texture mods are shit.

>>6363173
which crt+blur shader do you use?

>>6364110
What? It's literally the exact same textures just upscaled using AI.

>>6364167
Looks like upscaled soulless shit in my opinion.
>>6364146
NTSC S-Video 320px Gaussian Scanline preset. It's in RetroArch's "NTSC" shader folder.

>>6364234
Thanks, just got it set up. It looks even better in motion.

>>6364061
lmao

>>6362946
i perfer left just take a look at the background

>>6363903
The Cloud model looks like he's from a fucking San Andreas mod.

I like the multipass hyllian filter. CRT royale was a bit much to me. Heres a video of a guy using it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl0CWiHNu0U

>>6364110
That looks like The Sims: VII.
>>6364778
Yeah, that's an interesting video for people who are unfamiliar with Beetle PSX HW's features. With the new supersampling function, you can render internally at 8X - which gives you nice sharp polygons - and then the output is downsampled back to the PSX's native resolution. This works well with some CRT shaders, because if you render internally at 8x and don't downsample the output, the scanlines will be really thin. I myself don't downsample with FFVII, just 8X internal with a CRT+blurring filter like I posted >>6363173 above.
With PSX HW and RetroArch's shaders, there are so many options to tune your image to whatever you prefer. You can't really go wrong, just play around and set it up however you like, for whatever game you're playing. I use per-game shaders and per-game core options depending on what I'm playing and whether it's a 2D/2D+3D/fully 3D title.
Beetle PSX HW has been by far my favorite core in RetroArch ever since switching over from standalone two years ago. People who shit on RA without trying the new builds, with their improved GUI, neat shaders, and feature rich cores, are retards.

>>6363903
Fail. Why didn't they use the original higher poly model? At least it would clash that bad.

>>6364110
>There are people who unironically like this look

Wish the community made gameplay mods instead of PURTY GRAPHIX. Who even cares about graphx anymore when we have computers that can render a billion Advent Children Clouds with ease and the PS4 remake just came out.

>>6365632
(Offtopic post, my apologies)
Call me a fucking regressive but the other day somebody made a Quake tech demo with real time raytracing lighting and mirror reflections and it looks slightly better than the "fake" precalculated, baked reflections we've already had for 20 years. The elephant in the room is that technology ran into an evolutionary dead end.

>>6365639
(Offtopic post, my apologies)

>>6363903
LMFAO. Why do FF modders never seem to value aesthetic consistency at all? How do they never see how out of place these models look? This is worse than the FF8 HD mod.
>>6365583
Something like this would look so much better.

>>6365882
they were inspired by the best

>>6362946
Is this the Cloud every fujo I instant messaged in the 00s was schlicking to?

>>6363903
This is atrocious.

>>6363903
>that fucker behind cloud is still the original model
What's up with the Buster Sword anyway?

>>6364109
I lol'd

>>6362946
for me it's crt-royale-xm29plus.slang™

>>6362946
The question is, are you going to use the shader in the crossdressing homosexual bathhouse orgy scene?

>>6364061

Was cloud a manlet.

>>6362946
>>6363912
And here is the crossdressing homosexual bathhouse orgy scene in the remake.

>>6363903
HIRE THIS MAN

>>6368452
Cloud wasnt a manlet, but he certainly was compared to the big bearish homosexuals in the crossdressing homosexual bathhouse orgy scene.

>>6368446
no, i prefer my homosexual bathhouse orgies raw

>>6368458
I wish the remake didn't do the parallel worlds and time janitors nonsense. That completely ruined all suspense for me.

CRT shaders are in 99% of cases total garbage. Always too dark for trying to get CRT done right and too "perfect" and repetitive which isn't good on your eyesight.

There's no way to make FF7 look truly better than how it originally looks. Remako on PC isn't exactly everyone's cup of tea because it does have a few minor details that it cuts out, but it's still closer than most other mods at making things "right" on higher resolutions. Newer models are jackshit. Sure, the originals look like playmobil, but they still look better in scale than most models. This >>6364061 is the problem with most mods: because the backgrounds don't have a coherent scale they look like smaller humanoid figures. It's adding realism where there is none. These models >>6368463 from up close look pretty fucking creepy, specially the Barret model. People are trying to fix something unfixable, but truly the most offensive thing is when they use crappy mods that make the UI look like that generic crap square enix uses for their iPhone ports and those Advent Children portraits. It's absolutely fucking disgusting.

>>6368917
remako is dumb because it puts high resolution background under low poly models which is apex stupidity, you are supposed to make them blend togheter not make them stick out like a sore thumb, the only solution is a good CRT, no upscale bullshit, no downsampling and a honest to god dithering, the CRT willd do all the antialiasing you need IF it is good CRT, otherwise it will be shit and that will be that

upressing\swapping\downscaling is just retarded because it will undermine the intended look, the hardware capability and the visual clarity

>>6368578
at least they drop that sub plot at the end of part 1, sephirot officially kills all the time jannies and from now on anything can happen, maybe..

>>6369024
>you are supposed to make them blend togheter not make them stick out like a sore thumb
They stick way more with a pixellated background, since those are low poly but still high res models. What you're suggesting only works well on PS1 with a real CRT, and you're missing on detail. You can't talk about clarity when what's supposed to be a materia in the distance turns into 2 fucking colored pixels. Oh yeah, look at the clarity here >>6368430 , Jesse is looking so good.

>>6369039
>since those are low poly but still high res models.

who the fuck told you to use high res models again?

If you actually read my post till the end maybe you would have noticed I specifically said the only solution is GOOD CRT, NO UPSCALE (which >>6368430 CLEARLY did then used downsample) and HW DITHERING.

>jesse is looking so good

jessie is in the distance and she is getting blurred by the downsample method, even if she wasn't blurred by it the native low res of playstation would make her look blurry, that's how it was back then, my 32 inch samsung CRT monster couldn't do shit about it even back then, upping that resolution will YES make the models look clear but they will jump out of the backgrounds and hang in a different plane of existence, the same shit remako does, unless you are dumb enough to think square enix had fun drawing high resolution backdrops and then scaling then back to 240i, it was all done with the clear purpose to blend moving characters and backdrops togheter, if you against it you might as well play like >>6364061

>>6369070
>who the fuck told you to use high res models again?
The default lego ones are higher res. They are very low poly, because they are the default shit, but they are not pixelated like the backgrounds. I don't know how you're not getting this. It's beside the point, it looks like shit with something like remako, it looks like shit the way it was "originally intended".

>>6369085
>it looks like shit with something like remako
well at least we agree with something

>>6362946
these both look terrible to be honest. buy a ps1 and a crt and just go play the game. theres alot of ff7 floating around still since there were alot of reproductions by square given how popular it and the ps1 was.
>>6363354
jesus just stop. looks like shit.
>>6364061
hahahaha

>>6368430
LOOOOOOOOOOL

>>6369180

What about this /vr/? it's based oncrt royal kurozumi.

>>6364061
That isn't that out there considering it's a world where this sword exists.

>>6369070
>it was all done with the clear purpose to blend moving characters and backdrops togheter
you can still get that with higher resolution models

>>6369553
>we want the temporal antialiasing audience

take your nigger blur off my fucking eyes zoomer

>>6369507
kurozumi would be great if it didn't fuck with the colors

>>6363140
okay boomer.

does this look good?

>>6371186
Looks like Silent Hill.

>>6371190

>>6368917
The shit cancer ray tubes I played on in the 90s were as dark as crt-royale :-)

CRT-Royale looks fucking shit it's way too harsh

>>6363354
Is there a way to adjust the XM29 shader's colours? It's too warm for my tastes.