/vr/ - Retro Games

>>635667


-HELPFUL RESOURCES-

Gameplay tips
http://burstintotreats.wordpress.com/rollercoaster-tycoon-2/rollercoaster-tycoon-2-gameplay-tips/

Knowledge Base
http://www.rctstationarchive.com/knowledgebase/index.shtml

Fossil's Dig Site (a few additional articles)
http://www.rctmart.com/fossil/

RCT wiki
http://rct.wikia.com/wiki/RollerCoaster_Tycoon_Wiki

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-MISCELLANEOUS-
(+ mirror links)

RCT2 addons from the original website (which is now dead)
https://dl.dropbox.com/s/0ilfhyxk6a2b5ck/RCT2%20addons.rar
anonfiles*com/file/c1e33f10fa7c10303989bc64ab161062

Original Mr. Bones save
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/26249932/mrbones.SV6
http://www.mediafire.com/?5mogrbefwf5v94d
YOU CAN NOW RIDE IT YOURSELF: youtu.be/s78DeYIAyu4

The Time Machine and Katy's Dreamworld (User Created Expansion Sets)
www.rctmart.com/downloads/uces/UCES_Setup.zip
https://dl.dropbox.com/s/86owhr24pcusfch/UCES_Setup.zip
More info: http://www.rct2uces.com/

8cars (hacking tools)
http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/files/8cars1.32-1.31-1.21-dll-helpfile-rct2reliable_897.zip
https://dl.dropbox.com/s/i4x2w4qlzhzh4a0/8cars1.32-1.31-1.21-dll-helpfile-rct2reliable_897.zip

New Element Designs (RCT fansite where people upload crazy looking parks)
http://www.nedesigns.com/

Lunatim's Loopy Land (a small collection of downloadable rides and parks made by a talented mind)
http://www.lunatim.com/lunaland/loopy.shtml

A website made by a fellow /vr/other where you can find everything that's on this list and more:
http://vrct.tumblr.com/

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-RCT PROJECTS-

A free and open source game
freerct.blogspot*com

An HTML5 driven game
http://freerct.wordpress.com/
http://freerct.be/

Anybody know who erased the contents of the second no borders park, and why they did it?

>>635715
>tumblr

>Thread 20
>20

>>>/vg/

>>635745
>>635723

Dude the last thread hasn't even maxed yet.

>>635723
>>635745
>>636061
>BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

>>635686

The 100 x 100 that was up?

What's a good way to encourage people to buy land on a map? I have a small park with lots of land/construction rights to buy that might be fun as long as they don't ignore the stuff.

>>636326


I guess you could put a note in the scenario page that says don't forget to buy extra land or something like that.


>>635686 - I dont know who erased it but i've put it back up.

>>636368
I made my last map (Oakwood springs/no deadline) have tons of land to buy but it looks like no one did because the park was already big enough for the scenario.

>>636401

I guess it needs to be a smaller initial play area?

>>636303
Yeah that one, not that anybody seems to be signing up for it yet.

>>636368
Thanks.

>>636417
That's what I was thinking. I'll adjust accordingly.

>>636424
I was thinking something like this?

Kinda forces you to buy land at this point

>>636453

The again, some people might try to use that tiny area to its full potential.

>Expert scenarios

>>636453
I wouldn't buy land unless it was the absolute last option available.

>>636468

Well, you can't force people to play a certain way. That's pretty much inherent in any (good) game. But give them option. Want to cram everything into a tiny space? Go ahead. Want to spend money to give yourself more room? Go ahead.

Personally, I pretty much do this:
>>636479

Even if land is cheap, I just somehow don't like spending money on it.

>>636453

You can also try to motivate them to buy land by using terrain. Maybe your starting area is really hilly, but there's a flatter section you can buy. Or you're not allowed to remove trees, but there's some land with very sparse trees you can buy. Or your starting area is mostly a lake, but there's some dry land you can buy.

>>636479


Yeah... I usually just set the whole map to purchased.

>>636485
I think I'll set this scenario up with a medium-sized map and the option to buy land. I like the idea of setting up city streets and allowing you to build around them with construction rights.

>>636453
Try something like this?
http://www.lunatim.com/lunaland/2parks/2park08.zip

About as close to a solution as you're gonna get.

>>636509

That sounds pretty cool.

>>636564

=O Its raining! Im going outside

>>636523

I like that map.

>>636570
:( It stopped raining.

Stupid colorado.

>>636613

>Going outside when it rains.

That is literally the exact opposite of what I do.

Oh, sun! Let me get out- oh, nevermind, it started raining again before I got to the door.

>>627729
I've been working on this landscape, and would like some suggestions for it, since it is still so empty. There is a T-Rex enclosure with a broken fence (which can't be seen in the image) near the craggy lake hill, and I am planning on putting more dinosaur enclosures down there. The chess board does have all the pieces set like the start of a game. Not sure what I want to do with the rest of the empty spots though.

>>636681
>Driving
>Suddenly rain
>Smooth Jazz playing on radio
>Sun setting on the horizon behind the clouds
>Getting comfy and wish it would stay like this for the next 3 hours of your drive
>Stops raining after 10 minutes

>>636681
>going out ever

>>636734

I get weak sometimes.

>Guest generation higher difficult level

How does this work?

>>636718
That scene really bugged me.

>obviously supposed to be a really sad and emotional scene
>stereotypical comedy anime tears

>>636760

You mean what does it do, or how do you get guests in?

>>636792
What does it do? I've never used it on a scenario.

>>636803
Isn't it just that option that makes guests only like 9+ intensity rides?

I'm not sure myself but I'd guess it's that.

>>636818
No, that's in the guest options.

>>636803

Pretty sure it literally means you get less guests. So you'd need more rides to get the same number of guests in your park.

>>636925

http://rct.wikia.com/wiki/Scenario_Handycaps

Guest Generation higher difficulty levelEdit

It's hard to judge what this handycap does in detail. It seems that the guest limit is lower and enforced harder. The guest limit is an artifical number and determines by the amount of rides you have. Usually, you can attract about 50 guests with a flat ride and about 75 guests with a roller coaster, but this also depends on your park rating.

This setting can cause a park to stall for no obvious reason, this happens usually when the first batch of guests are broke and can't afford your rides and shops anymore. Not even a completely free park can keep broke guests happy and inside your park. This calls for a radical measure: close your rides and the park gates and wait until most of your guests are gone. This reset will attract new guests with full purses, who can enjoy your rides.

>>636938
So it makes guests harder to keep happy, as well as makes it hard to attract as many? Amd I reading this right?

>>637425

I think the idea is that the same number of rides will attract less guests. It sounds like the second paragraph, about guests being broke and unhappy but not leaving the park, is more of a bug ("can cause" implies it shouldn't happen).

I don't think it affects your park rating or guest happiness, just how many enter your park.

I'm seeing a few people creating scenarios themselves, but I haven't seen any links for them yet.

Where are they?

>>638530
A bunch of /v/vg/vr/ made scenarios are in the OP, I imagine the ones people are working on now aren't done yet.

Download link to the windowed hack doesn't work anymore.

>>638894
Beat them all

>>638934
I was working on a scenario but my hard drive crashed, so I lost it.

I'm thinking of making a few scenarios based on real-world locations but I'd want to go to those places more in order to make the location as accurate as possible.

>>638983
I always wanted to do the town I'm from. It's a small town that could easily fit an amusement park in it.

This is probably a simple question, but for some reason I can't find the answer. How much area is a single square?

I think it's time for this thread to move to /vg/

>>639403
I'm guessing 1x1 with the unit being meters, most likely.

>>639403
To paraphrase Toady, a square is small enough that two dwarves have to slow down to pass each other but large enough that a dragon can move through unhindered. In other words, it's totally arbitrary.

>>639527
Disregard this, I replied to the wrong fucking thread

so how's the 100x100 no-boarders going along?
I noticed that there's an open one but I don't know the status for the map so I'm rather hesitant to apply.

>>639573

Waiting for someone to take the first spot. Feel free to start it off.

>>639416
And get buried in LoL threads? No. Until mootiepie says we can't continually discuss retro games on the retro board you can go fuck yourself.

>>639619
is the map up to download or do I have to start it myself?

>>639649

There is a download link in the box.

SHould be coldhardcash.sc6 or whatever

>>639801
ty

>>639809

No problem, bra.

>>639403

One upward unit is 1.5m, and I'd say if you raise a single square twice it looks about cubic. So my guess is around 3m. Probably easy enough to get an estimate at least using a flat ride's length.

1. Carnie Games
2. Better overbanked Curves
3. Returning Guests
4. Better Buildings
5. True Multiplayer
6. No Forced Multiplayer

>>640319
>2. Better overbanked Curves

Honestly, I want a fully revamped construction system. I was already sick of the whole 90 degrees, limited elements system in RCT3.

I don't know if anyone's ever played it, but the Disney Imagineering Ultimate Ride game has a brilliant coaster system mechanism imo. Not overly complicated like No Limits, not plain retarded like Theme Park World's, but still as flexible as you would likely ever need.

>>640319
easy custom content, if possible. I love the fanshit that RCT3 spewed out because of objects being able to be made in google sketchup, or so I allegedly heard.
an option to "walk" around the park, maybe. that's neat.

>>640390
I'd be okay with a new system of building, as long as it isn't overly complex. I like how RCT keeps it very simple.

>>639416
We'd die too quickly. If we had and could keep similar activity levels to when collab parks started then we could hack it, but City Building General struggles to stay afloat in /vg/ and they have more activity than we do.
Latest iteration of the first no borders park, since I forgot to post it last night. The building partially offscreen to the right is new too.

>park objective: 3000 guests with park rating above 700
>make guests unhappy when entering
>fail objective upon starting

Okay, let's tone this down a little bit.

>>640526
Okay, tweaked it so the guests have 50% happiness. The scenario is hard, but not impossible.

I couldnt find this fucking tool.

How can I rise and lower land not by ONE FUCKING TILE but so that other tiles follow the adjusted one? So they stick together. Making hill, not a tower.

Please show me where this shit is i cant find it.

>>641665

>>641665
>>641681

Or, if you're in the scenario editor, click minus one more time when you're at one tile.

>>641730
THANK
YOU

>>641775
Forgot the pic.

In 8-cars trainer there is option Vandalise park, but no option to restore? Wtf?

>>643081
Staff > handymen > repair vandalism
Ctrl + F9 if you prefer.

>>643113
neat.

Anyway I'm going to upload the map to the next guy,

I might of gone overboard on the coaster.

>>643267
I had to take out 140$ worth of loans to pay for it...

>>643196
>I might of gone overboard on the coaster.
"Might"?

>>643271
>Loans
Wait, why is the second no borders park using money?
The first one was made with unlimited money so that we wouldn't have to worry about it and could focus on scenery instead.

>>643282
idk, I don't like the map to begin with, way too much water and the pathing around it (I think its supposed to be a dam) is shit,

I had to close half of it off or my park rating would be dismal.

Why do Twister, Floorless, and Standup Twister coasters all have to be different ride types? And expansion pack shit like "Yellow Taxi Coaster" which is just a giga coaster with different cars.

It's a pain in the ass in scenarios with one type but not the other; you can't use a design from the other duplicated types.

>>643357
because mah customization.

>>643357
the game is capped at a certain amount of rides (127?) and it counts new train types and distinct rides as the same amount towards this limit. the main reason RCT2 exists is the engine changes required to have the scenery pieces customizable to fit around the same limit. some trains were very different (wooden mine ride / wooden wild mouse) and they were split. this also had the effect of them being able to claim they had more rides that rctLL

>>643196

You could've used a cable lift hill for that.

>>643357

This is actually one aspect that I feel RCT2 did worse than RCT1. In one you could simply choose what type of novelty cars to use while the ride itself remained the same.

>>643734
Wooden coasters went the other way. RCT1 had Wooden Twisters and basic woodies, RCT2 has all of the woodies in one and introduces the 6-seater cars.

How can I adjust the map-levels faster? Im trying to make biggest map with different level of ground all over the map. Making it manually will take about a fucking eternity.

>>644065
Use 8cars

>>644075
Somehow couldnt find it first time.
Thank you very much and have a nice fap.

>6 hours straight of EE lab to finish a project for the semester
NEVER AGAIN.

Anyway, would someone care to help me find a custom footpath? I need it for a scenario I'm making and can't find the fucking thing anywhere.

>>644258
Can't help you there.

I just finished making a scenario, and realized I didn't save the landscape at a time closer to completion. Is there any way to take an already saved scenario and make it so you can edit the landscape again? Or am I fucked if I want to make changes to the landscape, or if you guys want to make changes to it if I post it?

>>644649
I think if you dig through files you can actually open saved games in the scenario editor, but you'll lose all rides and guests in the park.

>>644258
Also, I should elaborate on the footpath thing:

It's an invisible footpath. Like, you place it down, you can't see where you put it, but guests can still walk on it like normal. Good for making bridges with the base blocks.

>>644664
I'm pretty sure that that one is in the UCES expansion pack, the link to which can be found up in the second post of the OP.

>>644680
Is it? I remember downloading that before and not finding it. Oh well, some extra scenery and rides can't hurt, right?

>>644657
You can open them in the scenario editor, but only to change the objective, from what I can tell.

>>644701
Isn't that only if you use the "convert saved game to scenario" feature?

>>644708
That was the only feature I could find. Trying to open a saved game as a landscape just gives me a blank screen. Though I'll double check that.

>>644726
Or not... Whatever. I have the landscape saved in the most recent state I got.

Quick question, what is a good amount for monthly ticket income in a 256x256 park to make it the right balance of fun and challenging? I don't want to do the one /v/ scenario were getting the $150k a month or whatever it is, is nearly impossible. I have a completely flat land scenario with $10k a month and with 5 rides am already hitting $3k, so that seems way too low.

>>644749
A good player can get 40-60k per month on a decent sized map, depending on landscape. 30-50k is a decent objective.

Also the guy who made the $150k park admitted he had never played the game before and was only roped into the threads because it was /v/s flavor of the month.

>>644793
Are you kidding me? I made on 35x25 squares rides that give me 5k per month. If to count the "income per tile" it will be 5.71. Which is multiplied on 256x256 gives around 375k. And you wanna say 150k is some kind of record?

>>644949
Pixel limit, which makes it so you can't get the required amount of guest into the park, like you could for a smaller amount. We had a guy a few threads back go into pretty good detail about why that is such a hard objective.

>>645057
>pixel
Fuck meant sprite.

>>644949
You're more than welcome to try it out yourself. Don't worry, I'm not going anywhere.

>>645086
>34 years to complete a scenario

>>645086
How long did it take you to start hitting $100k, and at that point were you doing the jew splash boat rides you told us about?

>>645057
Got it. Thought might be something like that.

>>645086
Just spaming same ride over and over? Thats supposed to be impressive?

>>645116
Yes. I was maxing out at about 75k/month before splash boats. I even tried that 655 excitement glitch which didn't work.

>>643726
no I couldn't of.

the thing wouldn't let me because the turn broke the lift hill

>>645136
>5,000 guests
jesus christ how did you avoid crowding issues?

>>645136
>Yes. I was maxing out at about 75k/month before splash boats. I even tried that 655 excitement glitch which didn't work.
So you'd say $40-50k is a good objective then if people also want to make parks that are somewhat ascetically pleasing then?

>>645172
I didn't. I attempted the scenario once a year ago when that screen was taken and failed it. Vandalism, crowding, puke everywhere, you name it. Tried again 8 months later with a proper pathing layout and got it.

>>645191
There's a scenario called Mt Dosh in the /v/ scenario pack with a $50k/month objective. Play that and figure out how hard it would be.

I might actually finish two new scenarios this weekend.

Scenarios I've made: Oakwood Springs
Scenarios in progress: Detroit Urban Renewal, unnamed urban carnival park.

Scenarios with pre-made parks and shitty pathing are suffering.

I'm looking mainly at the Europe Advance scenario, and most of everything in that category anyways.

>>645319
Worst pathing ever is Rio Carnival though.

>>645395
oh sweet jesus don't remind anyone.

>>645395
Lol i opened it once and then my eyes bled and then I quit the game and never spoke to anyone in a couple of weeks.

Those colors. God.

>>645395
I just played it real quick. Who in the hell thought that was a good idea? And why is it in beginner? Fixing those paths should make it advanced at least.

What elements add to a coaster's operating costs?

>>645485
constant maintenance

>>645485
I used to think it had something to do with chain lifts and train propulsion but I never quite figured it out.

Hey BlueBalled, was it you who created that "In The Red" scenario? Any tips on how to get out of that crippling mound of debt? After demolishing the rides and paths and using that money to pay off what you can, of course.

>>645641
I made it.

Adjust the rides prices or delete some rides. It doesn't cost anything to hire handymen or mechanics so you can clean up in the meantime.

>>645641
Nope, not mine.

>>645659
Currently sitting about here. Coasters are $10 each, Eggler is $1, umbrellas are $20. Thoughts?

>>645708
The splash boats can net you $50k/hr and the duelling synced coasters at the back for $30k/hr each. Be sure to keep them because the hole you have now dug yourself into is not having enough rides to maintain a steady profit.

>>645708
That coaster looks bitchin'.

>>645727
>tfw already deleted every other ride in attempt to pay off as much debt as possible

I should probably just start over, shouldn't I?

>>645708
You won't make much money until it rains.

>>645776
I'm actually making a surprising amount, given I only have a small handful of rides.

>>645708
how do people fail this game? all you do is build one of each ride.
I've done this for all 3 games, and it works almost everytime. what the hell got you into that much debt?

>>645483

Pretty much all rct2 scenarios require the same approach: Delete all the dreadful paths, then start building, then win really quickly.

I've beaten some expert parks in one year, I really don't know what happened but CS seems to have completely lost the ability to make scenarios between the first two games.

>>645967

>custom scenarios

>>645395
where can this "rio carnival" be found, sir?

>>645974

Wacky Worlds expansion, under beginner parks.

>>645086
>>645136
>>645198
I'm still convinced that you're not the guy who did it and you just saved his screenshots.

Literally the only reason you could have to not share your knowledge or rides, is because you don't have the knowledge or the rides.

Another "expert" scenario - this one done in 5 months.

>>645483
It's probably beginner because it's over so fast once you have deleted all those paths. I think i had won it in september year 1 with most of that time just being used to delete stuff and organize things better.

>>646042
How about now?

>>647037

rekt

>>647037
Okay, so you did make it. You're just a giant fucking faggot for reasons unknown, that's all.

>>647037
[X] TOLDercoaster Tycoon

>>647265
I'll share my designs when someone else beats the map. How do I know you're not going to use them to beat it yourself?

>>647195
>>647276
Well hey, if he wants to invalidate his only possible, legitimate reason for not posting it (that doesn't make him look like a whiny bitch), that's his problem.

>>643282

Shouldnt really matter, its set to 5 m

>>647291
Show me one other person in these threads who'd play Vidya Park?

It's baby's first scenario, those of us playing scenarios are doing the odd custom designed one with intensive landscaping and scenery that are recent developments, though most of us are doing multiplayer parks.

This is all beside the fact though:
Why exactly is SO INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT to you that people beat a bland, empty map, with or without your assistance?
>How do I know you're not going to use them to beat it yourself?
I've heard better reasoning from 9/11 truthers for fuck's sake.

>>647317
I don't tolerate retards.

>>647316
You seem upset.

How do I get all these idiots without money out of my park, short of completely shutting it? They're not leaving, they're just complaining that they have no money, and my research isn't giving me cash machines.

>>647360
The answer is always drowning

>>647291
>I don't want to share my designs, because somebody might use them
...You've lost me, isn't that the point?

>I'll lend you my car as long as you don't drive it
>I'll tell you how to do something as long as you never do it
>I've invented the ultimate new drink but I'm not sharing it because I'm afraid somebody might drink it
I'm confused.

>>647385
You've confused me now. Knowing that they're proven and efficient designs, what's the challenge in attempting the map if you're cheating it? You're going easy mode.

>>647391
Are the designs limited to being used in just that scenario? No, they're not.

>>647391
No one wants to play that shitty map, anon. People think the ride you made was great so they ask you to share it. It's like when someone makes some great skin for Doom. It's only natural that people will want to try that out for themselves.

>>647391
...Why would we be attempting that map?

There's a thousand good maps to choose from, why choose a bad one?

>>647370

How did I not think of that? So obvious.

By the way, when people "disappear" underground, does that count as dying? Does it affect your park rating?

>>647445
I think they are just gone, as if they left the park the normal way. I don't remember the rating dropping, though i never removed huge groups of people at the same time with it.

>>647401
>>647385
What a great man is in your photos. I would like him to be my very best friend.

>>647530
He's a pizza otaku

>>647530
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOzBUowAUsU

>>647530
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gW2D_Votd2Y
Here's the original, it's a screencap generator.

Personally, the only reason I want that splash boats ride from anon #647391 is because they look cool and I want to see if I can add scenery and theme it up to make it even better.

>>647649
Forgot mah pic.

>>647520

Seems like a better solution than drowning then, at least to remove large numbers.

I may have to do some testing....

>>647649
>the only reason I want that splash boats ride from anon #647391 is because they look cool and I want to see if I can add scenery and theme it up to make it even better.
This.

I can't believe he considers sharing that ride as cheating.

No-one else is going to attempt that scenario. No-one.

Now that WAS quite a tough scenario.

>>648167
I like the coaster-building scenarios the most, even if it takes a while for them to get up and running.
And even if a few of the coasters have to get closed down due to them crashing...

>>647548
>>647535
>>647401
>>647385
As a Mikufag, every time I see Scott's face I feel visually uncomfortable.

In any case, I think I just found my new favorite scenario.

SCI 5 TIEM

>>648509
the problem with that map is that it's simply too tacky for me

plus all the building parts cost money to deconstruct
what up with that

>>648540
I actually tried to remove them thinking it would net me some fast cash, but I was wrong. I was so horribly wrong.

>>648565
>hey look, there's a bunch of stuff here I can sell
>I mean, all other props refund money when you demolish
>OH GOD WHAT THE FUCK MY MONEY!

>>648540

I never noticed that ... that makes no sense.

>>648645
there's only one expiation.

Chris Sawyer is...the ruseman.

>>648657
but the entire goal of RCT2 is to scam people out of their money.

>>648565
>>648540
My only gripe with the Sci-fi theme is that it goes too much into Star-Wars / Alien type of theming instead of just straight sticking with Cyberpunk. I fucking love Cyberpunk.

>>648697
but the difference is that I'm the scam artist, not the demolition company.

>>648717
Why would anyone butter and foil a guinea pig? It is not a potato, it was not made for eating.

>>648720

Oh guinea pig, you so silly. You're not a potato.

Did you guys ever read the paperback book manual that came with the original RCT? It's fantastic, explains a lot of little things that work in the game.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/nshn1w1pja3jiy6/blueballed.rar
Just put all of my parks in a .rar file and added a small text file for descriptions. This includes my newest two parks. Anyone want to give them a try?

>>648815
I've got some free time this weekend, I'll give them a looksie.

>>648828
Cool, thanks!

>>648831
At a glance they look pretty interesting. I'm noticing there seems to be a trend with fixing up trashed parks, similar to Ivory Towers.

Okay, I just launched my scenario and this happened - what the fuck?

>>649190

Rides: 0
Guests: 268

>>649206
Quick, build an information kiosk!

>>648729
Yeah I dug mine out a few weeks ago and was surprised by the amount of not so obvious info that was in there that probably could have helped me all these years.

We need to really message the guys holding up the collab parks and either skip them, or kick them into action.

Some of them have been sat there for 3 weeks now.

>>649719
Just impose a one week limit and have people start writing down the time and date that they send and receive the parks.

I was going through the old /vr/ct threads on foolz and came across this map. Who the fuck made this and why did they think it was possible?

>>649754
Maybe if the map was bigger...

>>649764
Definitely. And the only rides you get are the maze, go karts and looping coaster. What the fuck.

So I started over on this and decided to:

>keep most original rides, removing only 2 or 3 of them
>keeping the park open while cleaning up
>keep original pathing
>price inflation on rides
>hire short leashed staff

It may have not been as immediate, but breaking green and being able to build is definitely MUCH easier when making this insane kind of cash. I've only built a couple of my own rides and already have almost $100k of the loan paid back.

>>650616
Don't forget to do all the weeding

>>650713
Does lawnmowing actually have an effect on park rating and value?

>>650713
>implying I mow my lawns

>>650739
I don't think so. But I meant all those plants and shrubs around that you can clear off the grass.

>>650762
So those are intended to come off. Good to know.

>>650762
Wouldn't plants and shrubs count as scenery and help increase excitement for nearby rides?

>>650739
I think it does but you can get 999 park value without mowing lawns.

>>650849
I was breaking 900 while still in the red before fixing all of the vandalism. Dirty paths are really the only things that hugely make your rating plummet. Crashes too I suppose, but ratings can recover from those fairly quickly if your park is successful.

>>650863
Guest trapping will turn a 900 park rating into 0. Any time you get a small population of guests that can't get to a ride, or worse, can't leave the park, your rating will fall pretty fast.

>>650880
Forgot about that. A lot of my parks end up being sections of squares and rectangles just to keep guests from getting stuck.

>>650863
Crowding, for me crowding ALWAYS gets me and it drops my parts to dismal ratings, when there's crowding people get angry, and when people get angry they vandalize, when they vandalize people get angry and can't throw away trash, when the path is dirty people get even angrier, when you have really angry people, your park rating turns into a 450

>>651086
What is the most ideal path layout for populous parks? I assume the single tile width of path isn't the best idea.

>>651113
but double length fucks up the pathing

I always get a transit ride to ferry people from the front to the back. I usually have a single path, the backbone of my amusement park transportation, if you will. I than build offset lanes and connect those, fill them in with rides, food and scenery. If you really want to get freaky double-layer your paths, but it fucks up the handyman pathing so make sure you got that shit down to a science.

>>649764
You're a tripfag in this thread, and you don't know the jewing? Please, take the trip off, lurk more and then put it back on.

>>651113
I'm thinking maybe a more sprawling park would work. I've just started my scenario to test it out for playability, and ran into a problem of crowding everything together right now, and the path to my one coaster getting too crowded.

>>651304
"Jewing" doesn't make enough money to complete to park. A map that size is absolutely guaranteed to run out of room before you hit the objective.

>playing the Gorrilion Dollars park in the /v/ pack
>nice map, nice research so far
>no loan
Time to Jew.

>>651539
it's called ride stacking.

>>651541
Still not enough room.

how do I increase my "park value?"

>>652153
Build lots of stuff. Replace stuff that is too old

>>652153
Build more rides, plus
>>652160

I like how the timing worked out on this floorless coaster.

>>652160
>>652162
just a question, would redesigning a rollercoaster section mark it as" new" and up my park value?

>>652261
It might, I've never really tested it.

Personally I'd rather just refresh my rides with the 8 cars trainer, because I'm lazy.

>>652272
what the hell is this 8 cars trainer? a cheat program of sorts?

>>652261
I'm not sure if it only marks the rebuilt piece or if it counts the whole thing as new. It might not even change the value at all.

>>652281
Why not read the op and useful links?
>>635669
>8cars (hacking tools)
>http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/files/8cars1.32-1.31-1.21-dll-helpfile-rct2reliable_897.zip
>https://dl.dropbox.com/s/i4x2w4qlzhzh4a0/8cars1.32-1.31-1.21-dll-helpfile-rct2reliable_897.zip

>>652240
that feel

I'm having troubles with loading 8 cars
does it only work with the US version or something?
>when i select anything on the menu it says "no window"

>>652386
Stupid question:
Are you running your game of RCT2 in the background at the same time?

>>652386

It's a bit funky getting it to work, especially in vista/7. I'm running both rct2 and 8cars in xp SP2 compatibility, with "disable desktop composition" checked and running as administrator. I'm not which of those is actually required but it works now.

>>652393
I have tried with it open & not open
>>652397
I'm using 7

Finished my Scenario - anyone interested in giving it a test drive?

https://mega.co.nz/#!yNAmRTLC!W64pgE2EgTh08C3stR1upVepWzM1yTWMPSxFR9ELr9E

>>652726
>https://mega.co.nz/#!yNAmRTLC!W64pgE2EgTh08C3stR1upVepWzM1yTWMPSxFR9ELr9E
Missing AE-JUNGL. If you can find that scenery piece and include it in a zip it would load

>>652770

What determines which parts get downloaded and which don't? I thought everything should get installed with the scenario....

>>652775
Most tracked rides don't due to size

>>652770

Zip file here.

https://mega.co.nz/#!adJy2bxA!CDGyxU8LkCdT3GzKpXSKgVOhtkhKYk4dYqP30aTQWNY

>>652786
Now we need ae-pirat. We're going to be here for a while

>>652792

Oh dear. Very strange.

Maybe it doesn't work with scenarios, only saves? Try opening this save and see if that works.

http://www.mediafire.com/?gj34rpa9y5ysrwg

>>652831
No, you aren't getting it. Some files (AE-PIRAT) are too big to bundle with a scenario. Just put up ae-pirat and all other known ride files you put in and put it in a zip

>>652891

I didn't realise it didn't bundle in big files. Well, I'll just upload them one by one then? Sounds annoying. I don't have any clue which files are custom and which ones of those I included in the scenario.

Here's AE-Pirat.

http://www.mediafire.com/?jddjrelcat0q84j

Found a way to fix it. This includes all custom rides ... I assume and hope that custom shops/stalls are included in the file.

http://www.mediafire.com/?zgeee0ka4mkekv3

T-thanks..

>>653089

I've always wanted to build a roller coaster out of nothing but inversions after the first hill. Maybe this is a way to do it.

>>653379
Any more then 6 and your intensity will skyrocket.

>>653385
Haha, wouldn't doubt it.

It's interesting how a few clean spots, and replacing a bunch of benches will increase your profit margin by like half.

But really though I want to drown every guest who smashes my benchs because of a few spaghetti drops.

>>653425
>putting a lemonade stand next to an Art Deco food stall
Redundance patrol of redundancy spots an error..

>>653425

>Not deleting all those useless roads and paths immediately

>>653379
Call it "Ribcracker"

So this ride was one of the ones that started out in the park. It has no block brakes and barrels into the station at over 45mph I think. Any ideas on how to make this ride a bit safer without drastically altering it or tearing it down? It's my third most profitable ride in the park so I kinda need it to not crash from a station brakes failure or anything.

>>653720

One car is the easiest solution. Otherwise, just pull the last turn out a bit furthur and cram some block brakes or a second station in at the end

>>653720

I would simply unbank straight after the helix, have 2 brakes there, unbanked right turn, block brake, station.

>>653748
One car would cut profits too much. I think I'll do the station thing as well as what >>653753 said.

>>653456
I experimented with Scheinder's race once, I guess guests can only pick either
>Lemonade
>Beef Noodles

But not both.

>>653472
I personally like to build around those kind of things, and only delete when I need to, makes the park look kinda cool.

>>653798

I usually do with scenery, but bad pathing makes my skin crawl. I need to get rid of it immediately.

>>653818
Pssssh, this isn't bad pathing at all.

You want to talk about horrible pathing, let's talk about something other than Rio.

That one fucking Greek Animatronic park. VOMIT VOMIT EVERYWHERE.

Here, have this.

>>654106

Hey, that's pretty g-

>nausea rating

Whoa.

>>654224
I have a first aid station right outside the exit and a handyman patrolling just the exit footpath.

And this was a great feeling. Now just to build endlessly.

>>653798
They can only carry one food/drink at a time, though. Are you saying that once they choose one, they can't choose another in their lifetime?

>>653720
Just take out the banked turn section before the station and throw in brakes.

The only thing I don't like about this roller coaster is the name.
Still, my first serious attempt at a Classical/Roman themed ride. I like how it turned out, and it's making huge profits.

The only thing I don't like about this roller coaster is the name.
Still, my first serious attempt at a Classical/Roman themed ride. I like how it turned out, and it's making huge profits.

>>654693
If you're ever in search for names for Roman or Greek themed coasters, just pick a random Latin or Greek word. I've named coasters Agito (to move), Emfragma (heart attack) and Volito (I fly).

>>654835
There's also a fuckton of mythological names I could have chosen, too.

Using this video, I created a more realistic version of the Blue Streak in RCT than ever before. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbiYadOO2h4

I got as close as I can get without taking time to construct the surrounding areas. Still, it seems very close to the real thing.

>>654106

>Eviscerator

I thought I was the only one.

Fuck it, made a building.

Decent improvement in stats, too.

This is my biggest gripe of RCT2: No banked track into corkscrew. That and the fucking overbanked curves.

>>653720
Your trains are stacking in the station. A train is idle, waiting for guests, because it can't be loaded. This means you can shrink the station without losing capacity

>>656285
I think they're stacking more than usual in that screencap because it's broken down.

>>654873
>>655949
>>656074
>not painting it yellow and calling it Piss Streak

I'm all for realism but that would be funny.

>>656310
I could turn it red and call it "Menstrual Streak" too.

>>638917
This.

The github link for the windowed mode hack no longer works. The uploader has also disappeared from the site.

Could someone PUHLEEEEEAAZE re-upload it? I know it's still in your recycle bin somewhere

>>638917
>>657093
Okay, so I've managed to hunt it down, and repackage it with a little readme and a possibly-necessary dll.

http://d-h.st/Sjf

OP, PLEASE INCLUDE THIS LINK IN FUTURE THREADS.
THE BURSTINTOTREATS LINK TO THE WINDOWED MODE HACK IS DEAD.
THIS REPLACES IT.

Stuff.

>>657093
>>657175
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?uu8y3slim31ci2p

Why not just use the mediafire link I posted earlier?

>>657641
It took me half an ingame year to fix up the park. Could you make sure next time to have the paths not be a complete mess?
Also I can't even landscape for some reason.

As a person who's always only been playing RCT1, I just downloaded RCT2 and holy cow, these new rollercoasters and scenery objects are amazing. Also, cash machines.

>tfw you will never spend 749,90€ during a single amusement park visit

>>658550

>>658626
>$2,998.60 spent on 255 rides

ROUGH TERRAIN THEY SAID.

TUNNELS I SAID.

>>658887
BEAUTIFUL. Scenario?

>>658538


Well im sorry my first attempt at this didnt turn out perfect. Jeez.

>>659826

Could you explain to my why my paths were screwed up? i dont fully understand

>>659941
Alright. Looking back on the thread it doesn't seem like you're the only perpetrator of the terrible pathing in this park, so don't worry.
The red circles are places where the guests are going to get lost really easily. Of these three, the one on the bottom is the worst offender, as it was a one-way path going towards the entrance but not actually giving any way out of it. The other two paths circled aren't as big an issues, but they're just going to cause pathing troubles later on, especially since there's stuff on both of them. The red line is fine technically, but given that there's nothing on it and now way to actually put anything on it there's really no reason to keep it around.

Both of the orange circles are this guy's [ >>643196 ]
fault; the carousel's queue is too long, and the 3D Cinema, being priced at $4 for some reason, wasn't getting any guests.

The yellow line isn't an issue in and of itself; it's just that any big stretches of path that really don't have much of anything going on are going to cause guests to get bored, which is really something you want to avoid doing.

The placement of the rides in the park is also really detrimental to much further expansion, I feel - but that's another issue altogether, really.

>>659941
RCT's guests like to travel in straight lines directly towards things. Use this MSpaint diagram as an example. People will get stuck in the left side trying to get an exit as our example destination. The orange line is the solution.

I think I spent about as much time fixing up stuff as I did making my own stuff (which, of course, was shortchanged by the general lack of stuff that would actually help along what I was planning on doing).
In any case, sent along.

>>658887
Pre Historic - Stone Age. (Under Expert Parks)

I'm trying to tackle Alpine Escapes right now, when it's just literally MOUNTAINS. I have a sense of imagination, but I feel like these expert scenarios just give you height restriction / bullshit inhospitable land and then expect you to do something.

Sometimes it works, othertimes, it doesn't.

>Everyone trickles in via Chair Lift, or Mono-rail.
>due to RCT AI, they occasionally hop back on once getting back off.

Shoot me.

>>661773
>relying on chairlifts to transport guests
For shame. That park is a disaster.

>>661785
FUCK THAT, TIME TO MAKE AN UNDERGROUND WALK W-

Oh.

>>661795
what

>>661773
Transport rides are treated the same as any other ride by guest AI.

>>661798
They gave me an incomplete tunnel.

So now I should be able to have a steady feed of people coming in now.

FUCKING FINALLY.

I found out the hard way playing this that if you take too long with those park value scenarios it becomes a massive tug of war contest between building new coasters to amp it up versus old rides CONSTANTLY breaking down, lowering it. Damn rate was in a constant state of flux by about $50k until the very end.

>>661817
I found the best way to beat them is to just jew it up to get as much cash as possible, then demolish every ride at the beginning of the last year and build new high value rides

>>661830
With the exception of pic related, I try to do parks legitimately. Had I really wanted I could have built a couple Haxline-Twisters and easily been over $1mil.

>>661817
Rollercoasters cost too much for the value they put on the park. You're much better off doing something like this if you want to cheat and get it quickly.

I remember when the game first came out I took 10 years to beat Magic Mountain. Now, I can do it in 5 months.

>>660427
I price them at the entertainment, I had to lower the prices below even.

fucking jew guests,
the carousel line is a valid point however.

>>661929
whoops, forgot my name.

Well, after installing a 1 way walk way, after building the tunnel, I'm beginning to see a small flood of people coming in. Park rating should jump up to 800+ if I did it right..

Not so much a failure of a design, it's just that I'm beginning to question if Hudson knew what he was doing when he designed these scenarios..

Pre-made parks = HORROR STORY.

After awhile, there were no thoughts.

Only money.

where the hell is that asshat with my 4x4 map-pack?

>>662541
I'd imagine there would be a little difficulty, seeing as how the transport time is so long from the exit to the main area; people would get angry with the large travel time.

>>662667
Actually, I found out the hard way that there's an underground path way.

>>662682
no I mean, people will be angry going through the tunnels.

If a train barely makes it on a test run, is it safe to run with guests, or do things like train length and weight distribution come into play?

>>662706
Guests add more weight. the train will have more momentum when going downhill, but will struggle uphill more. not advised.

>>662706
It's generally not a good idea. Guest weight has a pretty big effect on speed and momentum. It might make the rollercoaster work better but if a train barely makes it on a test run, it is more likely to eventually stall. And it does happen. I've seen some really well-designed coasters stall before.

>>662706
>>662706
ACTION PARK DEVELOPERS, FOLKS.

>>662738
action park designers wouldnt have the foresight to even do a test run

Naknak has now had vrctshitfest.SV6 for 3 weeks and not done anything with it, can we please skip him for somebody else?

Same goes for scj with HELLA DOMINO ANAL.SV6 (he's in the last slot), it's just had it weeks and not done anything with it.

>>663457
god damn
I knew some fucker like this would show up

Oh boy, TUNNELS.

>>663938
And there, mass profit island exploiting Greek Mythology.

>>635667
>not downloading the GoG version with Triple hills

>>664376
And done. Pirates and Greek Mythology, ahoy.

>>661591

Alpine adventures? That one's easy as fuck, took me 5 months.

>>646226

>>664393
>the OP clearly says "-DOWNLOAD RCT2 Triple Thrills Pack-"
>It IS the GoG version
u wot m8?

>build a set of giant dueling hyper-twisters
>both excitement ratings around 9.5
>trains lose sychronization half way through because one processes faster and the block brakes hold the other one in place
Fuck me. Starting over.

>>662809
Or the common sense to just rule put terrible ideas. I'm looking at you, cannonball loop.

>>666902
It's fun though.

>>666947
>the water slide loop
>fun
Pick one. That thing must have hurt.

>>667052
It dismembered crash dummies. The manager paid the employees $100 after hours to ride it.

>>667052
I didn't say who it was fun for, or why.

>>662541
>>661975
>those trees

>>666872
Do the excitement stats decrease when the trains themselves aren't synched?

>>670050
No, it just causes OCD people to pop a blood vessel.

So I'm looking for some advice here. I'm trying to make a sort of Asgaardian Rainbow Bridge...

>>670680
...And I'm currently at about here and I'm not sure how to feel about it. Thoughts? Advice to make it better?

Woah! MR BONES BIG WOODIE has crashed!

>>670694
have it...not be so symmetrical. Use only rainbow colors and instead of the perfectly solid lines have streaks that fade into other streaks (also, if you want to be ultra autism mode use the roy g biv pattern.)

>>671479
What do you mean by not symmetrical? I think I get what you mean by the other thing.

>>671641
the rainbow bridge is too even...

>>671653
Like... Girth? Or the colors?

>>671662
the colors, you could widen it too but the main point is that it's too geometric.

>>671668
Ah, I gotcha. Thanks for the tips, I'll come back this weekend or sometime tomorrow night with improvements (one more final exam tomorrow).

>>671689
np

Rainbow Bridge: Take 2

>>672795

Looks much better

>>670694
>>672795
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuX5_OWObA0

>>672795
Too random. Honestly, I think it would look much better if you just did a sort of dithering pattern with it.

>>673096
Dithering?

>>673113
I think he means this.
>Definition: Dithering scatters different colored pixels in an image to make it appear as though there are intermediate colors in images with a limited color palette.

Not sure how you would do that.

>>673176
Ah that makes more sense. Yeah, RCT's color pallet is fairly limited, not sure I could pull it off with a 4-tile wide bridge.

Quick question, are you guys playing on RCT1 or 2? I haven't played the first one in years, and I never got a chance to play the second one.

>>673575
I think everyone's on 2 at this point, especially since most of the RCT1 scenarios have been recreated for 2.

>>673575
It's good to have both but most of us play 2. The scenarios still work better in 1 but 2 has the user-made scenarios.

Alright, here's take 3 for the night. I tried using more intermittent colors but it looked way too tacky so I tried to keep the randomness down a notch.

>>672795
>>673853
I like the ROY part of bridge two more and the GBIV part of three more. Though I'm not an art major, so what do I know.

>>673853

its getting better every time, but yellow is too large. split the difference between dark purple a yellow. or add more orange. or both.

your thumbnail makes it obvious which color is dominating

>>673585
>>673601
Gotcha.

Still have my copy of RCT1; I should really play it again for old time's sake

Looks like I win if I put down a single tree

>>674925

Go on then....

This Gorrilion Dollars scenario is awesome but $1,000,000 park value is DAUNTING. I'm constantly building. Thrill rides, coasters, I've got 1/4 of the map filled and have $450,000 park value. This is a good scenario, exactly the kind of challenge I was looking for.

So if I want to upload a scenario I made, where would be a good place to do so? And do I need to do anything special to the file?

>browsing RCT remakes
>Dusty Desert
>"Oh cool, a finish 5 coasters scenario!"
>no entrances/exits on any of the stations

Goddammit /vr/. Volcania has the same problem.

>>678041
I suppose the image might help.

>>678047
And you can't build stations?

>>678041
Yeah, the map is unplayable. Someone fucked up.

>>678051
Nope. "Finish 5 coasters" levels prevent station modifications.

>>678057
Did anyone test the scenarios they converted? SERIOUSLY?

>>678069
Apparently not. Forgetting entrances/exits like that is a pretty big fuck-up too. I'm gonna see what I can do to fix it.

>>678069
I've been play-testing my scenario, and think as long as you spread things out it should be fine (to avoid crowding), it might be a bit too big, but whatever. And would like an answer to >>677481

>>678081

>>678102
Fixed, and fixed. Now where can I dump this shit so you guys can download them?

>>678203
I've been trying to get this answered for two hours now.

>>678228
Dropbox appears to be your friend.

Here's Dusty Desert:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7d090joe0cvrvlc/RCT%20Dusty%20Desert.SC6

And here's Volcania:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lizlsnz6n2pgo2s/RCT%20Volcania.SC6

Bamp.

spent weeks designing my parks (like Evergreen Gardens) so that rides fit seamlessly into the scenery... i was a big faggot and decided to not save them at the time and started playing RCT3 then realized how shitty it was and went back to 2. Now i don't have all that free time for designing ;_;

>>678262
Both those parks were originally pay per ride/free park entry.

Why the fuck did you change them?

>>679176
this just shows how much development was back in the days. The whole game was written by one guy in ASM (no wonder its so optimized)

>>678262

Following people's advice, I went with mediafire. Really quick to sign up.

Btw, still hoping someone will playtest my water temple. I've been playing it, it's tougher than I was expecting, I might reduce the initial loan/target park value, but would like to see what people think.

http://www.mediafire.com/?zgeee0ka4mkekv3

>>679592
I'll download this and give it a whirl.

>>679592
Where do the .DAT files go?

>>679620

ObjData folder.

If I'd realised custom rides would cause such complications I might not have included them. But the main game has way too few thrill rides that fit the theming that weren't too high (I've limited construction height)

>>679626
This scenario will take a few hours to beat...

>>679660

Yeah, I'm currently on year 3 and close to the park value but haven't at all reduced my loan.

>>679231
I didn't know. The only way I could change the scenario to work on the stations was to toggle whether or not they used money via 8cars. I was never given an option to toggle where guests pay and never thought too much of it. Don't kill me plz, I was just trying to help.

>>679768
Can you change it with the tool in-game that lets you turn a loaded game into a scenario, then build the exits, and then change it back?

>>679768

>Think I've found a way
>Can't select "Finish building 5 roller coasters" as objective

>>679823

>>679858

I wonder how they did it in the first place. Must've used a trainer or other hack....

you made reinstall this game. many hours shall be lost again ;_;

i loved the feels watching the rides and imagining i was riding them

>>640503
Anyone want to see the current state of the no borders park?

>>680345
it's dead Jim

>>680386
...no it's not?

U wot?

>>680345
MORE

>>680628
Which bits do you wanna see specifically?

>>680637
The newest stuff I guess.

Delivering the shots

Bonus points for knowing which game this is a tribute to

>>680691
>>680696
Shit I love the details.

>>680696
S-S-Super Mario

So how am I doing guys?

Haven't played this game since grade 6 so I decided I'd try out the second one.

Also:
>bathrooms and first aid fucking everywhere
>I NEED TO GO TO THE BATHROOM/I FEEL SICK
wat

Didn't really expect a design like this to actually turn out decent, but it did, somehow.

>>680762
In RCT2 you can hold shift when placing objects to raise them. I noticed you raised the land for some of your stands up to the footpath when you didn't really need to.

>>679817
That was what I tried. I remade the scenario with a different objective so the stations could be modified. After modifying the stations I turned money off, saved it, then converted it to "build 5 coasters". After that, I started a scenario, enabled money, then resaved the scenario so money was being used. There isn't the option to toggle between where guests pay when using that tool, and I don't remember if 8cars can do that.

>>681317

I tried to do that, but this happened:

>>679823

>>681317

But you don't need to turn money off, do you?

>>681371
To edit the stations, no. However, when you need to reset the scenario objective back you do since that - for whatever bone-headed reason - is only a no-dosh goal. Otherwise we run into the problem you faced up above.

Unless I'm missing what you're asking?