/vr/ - Retro Games

>>>/vp/

>>6349381
>GBA
soulless and ugly
>DS
not bad, has soul at least
>3DS+
soulless, too easy, and >are you a girl or a girl?

>>6349381
I played FireRed on a long car journey and got car sick. Now whenever I see a screenshot of it I feel a little queasy

>>6349381
Better simply because pokemon now have better learnsets. Now I don't have to go until level 50 with my pokemon only having tackle as their attacking move.

>>6349392
>soulless and ugly
how

>>6349504
New bad old good.

>>6349512
But the oldest thing listed is also soulless and ugly

>>6349381
THEYRE FOR ANTS

>>6349504
I don't know, I never liked the art style of most GBA games. I can't put my finger on it. I can say that something about the art style reminds me of shitty mobile games, but I felt this way even before smart phones came out and before I got a dumbphone, so I really don't know what it is about it I hate so much. The color palettes are part of it but that's not the only problem. Even with color correction or photoshopping in a different palette, it still feels off.

>>6349447
This is a good point, I really hated only having one worthwhile attack.

>>6349561
>I don't know, I never liked the art style of most GBA games. I can't put my finger on it.
In the case of Pokemon they're genuinely ugly. I grew up with Sapphire and have a lot of nostalgia for it but there's no denying it, the pokemon games are just ugly and not really a great showcase of the system's capabilities. Here's Magical Vacation, a game that came out in 2001, the release year of the gba and a year before RS. Still, to be fair in the case of RS they were pretty content filled games for the system so it could be argued this could have just been a case of a necessary downgrade but who knows. GBA genuinely has some beautiful games, Pokemon is just not one of them.

>>6349561
The needlessly bright, washed-out colour pallette definitely contributes to my dislike for GBA games, as does the tinny, electronic-sounding sound. For me it's more the sound. Even though headphones, it just sounds like ass.

>>6349643
That's because gamefreak does the bare minimum. Just look at the crap they've been releasing as of late.

>>6349651
I wouldn't say the bare minimum, the fourth and fifth generation pokemon games on ds I feel are not only competent looking but have solid content, but in recent years it's obvious they've become lazy. I would say generation 6 and the transition to 3d was when they really got bad. If they really were a small, indie studio like they were when they first started I could understand but as the owner of fucking Pokemon I expect better.

Fire red blows the original red out the water

Red is UGLY

FireRed is FIRE

>>6349651
They did a pretty good job on Drill Dozer for GBA, though.

>>6349649
>needlessly bright
Remember that the inital gbas had no back lighting. Developers specifically used brighter colors in order to make it easier to see. Once SPs became popular this wasn't asuch of an issue.

>>6349381
Love how old games look and sound
Hate the way they play compared to newer titles with QoL features

>>6349381
You know there's a board for this

>>6349381
They suck, and there's a board for this. >>>/vp/

>>6349674
>patched
Why not just play the originals?

>>6349774
I guess things like Luigi's unique physics in the gba port give them some interest.

>>6349504
he's not wrong
I even thought so as a kid

>>6349787
Doesn't the All-Stars version have Luigi physics?

>>6349381
>what do yous think of pokemon remakes?
>Leaf

I think they're pretty good. Great, even.

>>6349838
Nope. Unique sprite, but that’s about it.

>>6349643
To be fair, Magical Vacation gets really ugly really fast.

>>6349674
I didn't know BoF 1 and 2 were released on GBA. Is it better to go through those then the SNES versions? Also how do I patch it to look like the right image

>>6349381
I hate pokemon now in general. we could have some truly amazing games if pokemon was open-source so they could make a bigger world to explore. instead it's just stuck garbage for kiddies, short ass campaigns that will never evolve and become something better.

>>6349651
>>6349659
Truth be told, I honestly want to see them go down in flames, their success is undeserved. alpha dream got canned but this shit gets to live on, fuck that.

The fact that chunsoft created a game with vastly superior graphics story, everything should have ended game freak right then and there.
>>6349835
Me too, I actually dropped pokemon altogether because I thought it looked like shit during a review,. Also other rpgs, even monster rpgs are better. Also that IV,EV shit is too much effort just to have good batttles.


also the models from the N64 were reused on the gamecube.

If anyone else did that, they would be calling for heads on pikes


>>6349669
both are shit

>>6349970
>muh gwafix! baaawwww!
>muh story! double baaawwww!
You don’t understand the appeal of Pokémon.

>>6349983
What to get? Pokemon is babby's frist RPG.

>>6349941
It doesn't need to be open source, you can program your own Pokemon clone in a week, specially when every asset is out there and the mechanics and differences between versions are well documented.

>>6349983
appeal? It's shitty! I was disappointed from the start.

>I wanted a game like adventures in the manga/anime
>didn't get them in the games
>started playing normal rpgs and monster rpgs where adventures like this took place
>dropped pokemon altogether at r/s/e

I just take a look at the new designs and stats at the beginning of each gen though

>>6349998
Truth be told I played Mario rpg and seiken densetsu 2 before this, so it was shitty in comparison. Jade coocoon was a better monster game,

>>6349392
Low effort bait.

>>6350020
Pretty much any other RPG is better. Robopon, Monster Rancher, Dragon Quest, Keitai Denjuu Telefang, etc.

>>6350029
Then why did it do so well.
It should have been smashed to dust, even Cessler went easy on it back in the day.

It's success was honestly undeserved.

>>6350038
>Cessler
mfw

>>6350038
Pokemon is a better escapism game. It makes you believe you could be the protagonist, the Pokemon world blends too well with ours.

>>6349381
holy fuck, use your own damn board already.
>>>/vp/

What are some must-play romhacks?

>>6349970
>If anyone else did that, they would be calling for heads on pikes
Animal crossing

>>6349504

>>6349381
they're the same games with slightly better graphics and added postgame
wouldn't really recommend them over yellow though. pokemon designs had more soul before they were standardized

>>6349928
Only for Breath of Fire 1, experience and gold is better balanced so grinding is less required. Breath of Fire II still has a god awful translation so use the snes fan translation patch for it.

>>6350092
that's fucking stupid, escaping is for fat white girls. I couldn't ever picture myself as such

>>6350450
gamecube models on the ds isn't the fucking same as N64 models on the wii

>>6349381
The were good until HGSS, then with ORAS they started to remove things and probably now the DP remakes will be like Pokémon let’s go

>>6350450
That's an actual port you absolute brainlet

Gen1 remakes were essential since the original games were trash, and not backwards compatible.
Gen2 remakes, less so, but still decent in their own right.
Gen3 remakes were complete abominations.

>>6349774
DKC GBA has extra content such as the photograph collectables, Funky Fishing, Candy dance. Also it tells you if you've collected all of the K O N G letters or not.
That makes it worthy of playing along with the original.

>>6350494
You're not helping your case.

>>6350092
Those God-awful sprites are peak comfy. Even when I was 7 they made my eyes bleed.

>>6349381
Pokemon was never Shakespeare but somehow they managed to make the dialogue worse

>>6352658
And they made the game even more linear.

Put old dude with map prominently at entrance to town? Nah, have him forcibly give you a tour, then interrupt you a second time as you leave town.

Walk past house without going inside? How about the guy inside stops you and talks to you anyway?

Wanted to try out the gym before the minor dungeon in town? Nope, not happening.

>>6349381
FR/LG is alright, HG/SS is the pinnacle of the series, ORAS is watered down garbage, and Legiss is among the worst in the series. Expect the Sinnoh remakes to be THE worst!

>>6352667
Pokemon should have ended with Gen II as Satoshi Tajiri intended.

>>6349392
Ugly post for a retrofags

>>6350252
Nope

>>6352667
Shitting on HG/SS is peak Pokemon contrarianism. It's the same shit posted every single time. Play a hack of it if it's too easy. And I'm sure some autist out there has retranslated and got rid of the forced tutorial shit to appeal to the people still complaining about it for the past decade. Better yet, just play G/S/C. There you go, the generic reply for the millionth time.

>>6352667
Holy shit

>>6352658
>worse
Brainlet post

>>6349878
Her eyes are brown

I prefer remakes because it sucks hitting 8th gym and the movesets are still limited enough that my opponent will spam fury attack and tail whip. The remakes are just as easy, but at least there's a bit more diversity in strategy for both sides.

>>6354651
HGSS is the perfect pokemon game as long as you use a romhack for two things; fix the level scaling during single player, and give the player access to every pokemon on a single cart. No more exclusives, no more trade-only evolutions. That's it. Everything else about the game is 10/10. You can argue minor shit like unlocking the original OST from the start, but it doesn't exactly affect the gameplay.

>>6354687
there was level scaling?

Why was hgss the only game where any of your pokemon can follow you outside their ball? That was a fun little feature, especially with something crazy like Rayquaza.

>>6354687
The only people who complain about trade evolutions are losers who have a chip on their shoulder because they didn't have friends to trade with.

>>6354725
i loved it at the time, but it's just tedious to deal with now. i have two GBAs/DSs and enough pokemon games to be able to do it, but it's not exactly an exciting mechanic. I'd rather just get a romhack that lets me play on a single device.

>>6354701
Level scaling wasn't the best phrase. The levels of wild pokemon rose very slowly throughout the game so you'd finish the 8th badge with level 30 or so pokemon (and run into wild level 15-20 if I remember right). Then you hit kanto and levels are low there too. There are some romhacks that smoothly increase the level of wild encounters so you finish endgame content with appropriately high level battles. In vanilla GSC and HGSS wild encounters are a joke, and you barely gain any experience from them since you'll oneshot them and they're 10 levels under you. It's also an extra step whenever you catch a pokemon you want to use, since it's now massively underleveled.

>>6354754
go to hell...

>>6354758