/vr/ - Retro Games

>Dreamcast was 15 years old when it became allowed for discussion on /vr/.
>PSP and Xbox 360 are both turning 15 this year.
>6th gen is STILL not allowed.

Even if you try to start a thread about the Wonderswan Color, /vr/ still throws a shitfit.

Remember when Halo prwned the guy?

This board is for real retro, not zoomer-retro

>>6343885
The PS1 is already older than zoomers

>>6343874
The problem is that the board is unwilling to accept younger generations into a board once exclusive to older folks. It's unprecedented, but the best way forward would be to allow the zoomers in to talk about the XB360 and such. It is retro in the sense that we've had 2 gens since the 360

>>6343885
Ok grandpa
Have fun playing your atari in the retirement home

>>6343885
This is the problem. Older gamers still want their exclusive retro club, and it's not sustainable.

When will these consoles be considered retro? In 10 years. making it 25 years old? In 2-3 console generations?

>>6343896
The problem is too many games. A lot of vr don't get talked about a lot as it is. If we allowed ps2,gc,xbox the older games that are already on the back burner would be nearly impossible to discuss, leading alone the ps3/360. At that point, there's not much of a difference from /v/. Even then, there would have to be PC games from 2000 to ?. It's too much, /v2k/ is and always will be the answer.

>>6343896
>When will these consoles be considered retro?
Never. Just like how comic books from the 70's will never be considered from the Golden Age, and comics from the 90's will never be considered from the Silver Age. I don't know why this is a hard concept to grasp.

>>6343905
Why is 2000 the cutoff though? What's so special about that year?

>>6343867
NOOOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO INCLUDE ME IN YOUR CONVERSATION I DON'T WANT TO GO ON THE CORRECT BOARD I WANT TO GO ON THE INCORRECT BOARD AND FORCE MY TOPICS ONTO PEOPLE WHO AREN'T INTERESTED IN THEM AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Maybe we need yet another board for 2000-2012 or so games.

>>6343909
>segmenting /v/ further
most of the posts from /vr/ are from Doom and emulation generals. This is a slow ass board only rivaled by fucking /mlp/

>>6343910
you wouldn't be splitting /vr/ off into two boards, you'd be splitting /v/ off into two boards, and there's no reason that would be a bad thing.

>>6343909
Nah. 2000-2004 games have a lot more in common with 90s games than they do with late 2000s/early 2010s games. Don't even pretend Majora's Mask is from the same era as Skyrim.

>>6343906
It's just easier that way because the consoles released after 2000 really don't mesh well at all with the consoles from before. By keeping Retro everything before the year 2000, we go from the start of video gaming to the era of very early 3D + the Dreamcast which is not a powerhouse at all and is more in line with the N64 than the GameCube. This keeps Retro synonymous with early on every aspect. During the PS2/GameCube/Xbox generation, the landscape of gaming changed entirely and drastically enough to the point where that should mark the beginning of a new era.

Retro shouldn't be expanded to let newer consoles in, a new era should be made instead.

>>6343874
>/vr/ still throws a shitfit.
the people posting here have no control over what the rules are, they aren't getting mad they're just telling you your thread is gonna get deleted

>>6343906
The end of the millennium

>>6343913
and you're just gonna keep segmenting further and then have 4 fucking boards every 10 years? just keep updating /vr/ for fucks sakes

>>6343910
>most of the posts from /vr/ are from Doom and emulation generals.
And the emulation generals here are shit compared to the ones on /vg/.

>>6343919
But that's completely arbitrary cutoff based entirely off of when Jesus was born. Are you gonna pretend that Ocarina of Time has more in common with Dante's Inferno than it does with Majora's Mask (which technically is part of the same millennium, btw)?

>>6343924
Well, it kind of does. OoT and Dante are classics, Majora's Mask is not.

>>6343926
You're right, it's a goddamn masterpiece

>>6343926
That's a fucking joke and you know it. Does Toy Story have more in common with Beowulf than it does Toy Story 3?

>>6343921
nobody here wants to talk about the things you want to talk about, and you clearly don't have any interest in what we want to talk about, so no, fuck off.

>>6343918
Now what happens if you make a Wonderswan Color thread on /v/? It would most likely plummet to page 10 in less than a half hour, lucky to ever reach over 100 posts.

>>6343874
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>>6343892
>>6343896
>>6343910
>>6343921

>>6343930
It's almost like the Wonderswan Colour died for a good reason, was only ever released in Japan, and every good game for it was ported off the system to the GBA or PSP down the line...

This is bullshit I wanted to have a serious conversation about what is considered retro and it got deleted and this shit stays up about the 360 what the hell man

>>6343928
I can do even better than that actually. Does Eminem have more in common with Beethoven than he does 50 Cent? After all, Eminem and Beethoven are from the same millennium!
See how retarded that rule is?

>>6343931
ran out of arguments already? don't worry, the concept of time will provide you the harsh reality

>>6343935
What kind of video games did Beethoven play?

>>6343934
You the guy that made that half life thread a week or so ago? There was probably just a butthurt janny around. These threads tend to last longer than that.

>>6343931

>>6343934
Call the mods trannies and hijack this thread?

>>6343937
You're missing the point. What I'm saying is that a millennium is such a broad unit of time that it's completely meaningless. Aside from video games not having existed for most of the last millennium anyway, as you so helpfully pointed out, so much changed in those 1000 years that it's not even comparable. The 90s absolutely has more in common with the 2000s than it does the 1930s, let alone the fucking 1000s.

>>6343936
>the concept of time will provide you the harsh reality
And until it does, fuck off with your zoomer consoles.

>>6343946
6th gen is millennial. Zoomer vidya starts with the 7th gen.

>>6343943
I just wanted to know what video games Beethoved played.

>>6343937
Virtual piano ds

>>6343950
earliest zoomer were born in 1997 so... they would have started with xbox, gamecube, ps2, gba etc.

>>6343950
6th gen is to zoomers what 3rd is to millenials, they played it when they were very young and on their older sibling's consoles.

>>6343950
It's not because it has to be under 1999 to be retro an if it's over 2000 it's new age gaming
Not my words dude just how the rules here are.

>>6343960
But why 2000? And don't say "end of the millennium" because I already tore that joke of an argument apart.

>>6343965
It's just easier that way because the consoles released after 2000 really don't mesh well at all with the consoles from before. By keeping Retro everything before the year 2000, we go from the start of video gaming to the era of very early 3D + the Dreamcast which is not a powerhouse at all and is more in line with the N64 than the GameCube. This keeps Retro synonymous with early on every aspect. During the PS2/GameCube/Xbox generation, the landscape of gaming changed entirely and drastically enough to the point where that should mark the beginning of a new era.

Retro shouldn't be expanded to let newer consoles in, a new era should be made instead.

>>6343957
>>6343959
Not according to this pic.

>>6343874
They’ll probably update the sticky once the PS5 and XSX are out.

>>6343969
>more in line with the N64 than the GameCube

No it isn't. N64 ports on Dreamcast run at triple the framerate at double the resolution.

Dreamcast ports on the Gamecube have extremely slight improvements in graphic quality.

OH FUCK IS IT FINALLY TIME CAN WE FINALLY DO PS2 TALK
YESSSS MY FAVORITE RETRO GAME PERSONA 4
I CAN'T WAIT TO TALK ABOUT WHICH GIRL'S ASSHOLE IS THE STINKIEST I WANT CHIE TO FART ME UNCONSCIOUS BROS

>>6343969
See, I disagree with that. I think the GameCube and PS2 had more in common with the Nintendo 64 and PS1 than they did the Wii and PS3. The GameCube and PS2 could have come out in the late 90s and they'd fit right in.

>>6343980
You're delusional if you think the GameCube is closer to the N64 than it is to the Wii when you remember that the Wii is just slightly clocked higher GameCube hardware, and compare Super Smash Bros. 64 to Melee to Brawl, or OoT to Twilight Princess to Skyward Sword.

>>6343970
You realize that's a joke image, right? Its funny because there's some truth to it, but 4th gen is also core Gen-X and 6th Gen is babby zoomer's first game.

>>6343995
Melee has more in common with 64 than it does Brawl, and Twilight Princess is basically a Wii game that happened to be compatible with the GameCube.
Wind Waker certainly has more in common with OoT and MM than it does TP or SS.

>>6344006
yikes