/vr/ - Retro Games

No brainlet, dont you understand?

He throws rays

Because he’s RAYMAN

>>6323390
It's because it's even easier to animate. Rayman's entire character design is a giant case of "couldn't be fucked" lol.

Always thought rayman 2 was the only good entry for this piece of shit character
The energy balls were pretty cool

>>6323407
>all that reddit cringe
cr

>throw fist
>need to wait 2 seconds until it comes back all the way
GOOD DESIGN

>>6323390
>hey let’s copy a character with floating feet and fists
>and when he attacks he throws them
>okay now let's call our selves creative geniuses
???

>>6323390
>early 3d platformer relies on ranged attacks
gee, i wonder why

>>6323659
This is why channers are unemployed virgins not game designers. The golden powerup in rayman 1 basically gave you infinite machine gun fists and it would look dumb in 3D.

>>6323665
>channers
18+

>>6323390
I played Rayman 1 and 2 as a kid but I always preferred Rayman 1's aesthetic.
Always bugged me how in Rayman Origin's, which is supposed to be an origin story, it uses the tone and feel of Rayman 2, even including Globox as a playable character and the fact that you can't use Rayman's signature long punch attack because of Globox and the two teensies not being able to do that.

Now that I think of it, the two playable teensies being player 3 and 4 really reminds me of how you get two toads for player 3 and 4 in New Super Mario Bros. Wii. Huh

>>6324829
That term has been in use since practically the beginning of the site, you underage tryhard.

>>6323495
They're not retro, but Origins and Legend are great. Easily some of the best modern 2d platformers out there

>>6323660
It's not about who does it first but who is the first one to do it well.

Plok.... is not a good game

>>6323390
I remember being confused about that too. But I also remember liking the game as a kid, been meaning to revisit it.

>>6324953
I couldn't agree more anon, it feels like the Rayman franchise is basically just trying to forget that Rayman 1 ever existed. But I don't get why, like you I prefer the aesthetic of 1.

Something I'd love to see would be a remixed version of Rayman 1. Same bare bones plot but with new/redesigned levels. The graphics look very pleasing anyway, doesn't seem to be much need to go down the Globox and co route for artistic design.

>>6328553
T. Frenchie

>>6323659
Yes, yes it is

>>6323495
Rayman is like Bubsy's successful cousin. I swear that they're blood related somewhere in the gaming industry.

>>6328910
>it feels like the Rayman franchise is basically just trying to forget that Rayman 1 ever existed.
That's exactly what it is. I mean I don't mind Rayman 2's tone and that most games will follow this tone, but I thought for a prequel for Rayman 1, we'd get more references and elements than what actually got put in the game. Betilla the fairy looks drastically different in Origins (and unnecessarily sexualised), we also got a reference to Mr. Dark, which was pretty cool, and I believe there was supposed to be a remix for the Mr. Dark theme but we never got that.
>Something I'd love to see would be a remixed version of Rayman 1. Same bare bones plot but with new/redesigned levels.
I wish we got the 2D Rayman 2 game that they were working on. I understand why they ended up going for the 3D version that we have today, but it's a shame that we didn't get to see what the 2D Rayman 2 game would look like, aside from the first level.

>>6328910
I don’t think they tried to forget it, they just did what they wanted and didn’t concern themselves with lore too much. 3 being more like 2 was just an easy design choice

>>6329001
Origins was going to be literally his origins but executive meddling turned into basically a sequel rather than that

>>6329008
I mean look at Rayman R - they already dropped stuff from 2 like Ly

>>6328547
They're better than any of the retro games in the series in my opinion. These are the sequels they would have been making if not for the fifth gen's obsession with 3D to the exclusion of everything else.

>>6329008
>>6329014
That's a fair point. And I can see why at the time a ubisoft dev team would want to make a push into 3D games. I suppose what I really meant was through a series of events its been kind of pushed to the side, and that I think that's a damn shame.

>>6329001
Have you got anymore info about the 2D Rayman 2? Like have any former devs given interviews about it? I'd be interested in learning more.

>>6329149
I know some dude it hacking the original Rayman game and found the prototype, has found it runs in the like the exact same engine

>>6323495
Rayman 3 is better.

Best music?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOpgLhg8XBQ

>>6323390
So here's something that irritates me:
Rayman 1 throws his fist... Well, threw a third fist as both hands are still with him.
Rayman 2, Arena/M/Rush shoots out energy balls
Rayman 3 returns the fist throwing, but the GBA version is the only one done right, as he can throw both of his fists and it shows... Feet, too.

Origins, Legends, Adventures, etc. is more sprite based, but Rayman doesn't throw his fists at long range (makes some sense where you're able to play as other characters besides him).

I legitimately didn't know that there was a third Rayman game. Was it a poor seller with poor advertising?

>>6330850
>poor seller
It sold over a million and has decent reviews.
>poor advertising
It's infamous for the pic related advertisement. But I don't think it was heavily advertised.
It just came out in an era when those kinds of games weren't that popular. That might be way you've never heard of it.

>>6331467
I remember getting a demo disc is kids zone magazine, an Australia magazine that was basically just ads for new games and shows and movies. Motivated me to buy the game and I’m so glad I did

>>6330157
Yeah, I know you can also play a prototype level if you get 90%(I think?) of the lums in Rayman 2 on the PS1 version. But I meant more like developer comments, thoughts etc

>>6331467
The noughties were when the collectathon craze was starting to die out. The case couldn't have been more obvious than with Pac-Man World 2, a collectathon where the collecting is completely optional. As if the style fell out of favor.

>>6323407
But his energy isn't called rays iirc

I remember as a kid I had the shitty pc port of Rayman 1, and the music was fine but for some reason my sound card didn't want to play the sound effects. I'm sure nowadays I could easily find a solution but it was wierd going back to it a decade later in emulation and hearing the sounds.

>>6329001
>I wish we got the 2D Rayman 2 game that they were working on
Like... the GBC version?

>>6324953
>>6328910
Rayman 1 is obnoxiously childish and happy-go-lucky.

I find it funny how Rayman put Ubisoft on the map and they quickly abandoned him.

>>6332056
They needed their own version of the Minions, so they replaced him with the Rabbids. Tragic, indeed.

>>6332064
Rabbids predates Despicable Me by 4 years. But not even that, Ubisoft is now better known for Asscreed and all games derived from it, or Far Cry (which was a Crytek creation).

>>6331954
That's nowhere near the same game. That game is just a Game Boy version of the final Rayman 2 game.
I was referring to the game that they showed off before the 3D one was in development
>>6332064
They appealed to the masses and then quickly forgot about Rayman