/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[4-5]
Raze 0.5.1 with all supported games. >>6314586
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1sZoTTV1m3yMq9QWch9Rc8AMmUgofpFkd

[4-5]
Cerberon Plaguemaker, a new Quake 2 singleplayer map is here
http://quakeulf.suxos.org/3d/maps/cerberon.zip

[4-5]
Doom 4 Vanilla 3.0 was released with Back to Saturn X compatibility
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqBvoHiEbmk

[4-5]
Dark Forces DeHacker updated to v1.1 with a lot of improvements:
http://df-21.net/

[4-5]
Anon releases shitty Heretic mod:
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=68063

[4-5]
D4V 3.0 update
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqBvoHiEbmk

[4-3]
Doosk Heretic Update:
https://youtu.be/zB-IeeoDaeY

[4-2]
Nash is developing a Universal Glory Kill mod
https://youtu.be/0Nbm5-UjMLQ

[3-31]
BuildGDX updated to support Witchaven II and Duke 3D World Tour
https://m210.duke4.net/index.php/downloads/download/8-java/53-buildgdx

[3-31]
Latest Doom console ports got another update, along with No End in sight
https://twitter.com/bethesda/status/1245028022706724865

[3-31] Reelism 2 announced
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=68021

[3-28] Mr Friendly got an update
https://jp.itch.io/mr-friendly/devlog/130285/build-72-new-tool-new-writing-tuning-changes

[3-24] Unreal Evolution, by the creator of GMDX, has just released:
[YouTube] https://youtu.be/zQ66DlLGer8

[3-23] SiN remake in the works by 3DRealms and Nightdive:
https://twitter.com/Freschism/status/1241812573848244224?s=19

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Apparently Tormentor667 has a history of plagiarism
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/113427-tormentor667-care-to-explain-why-you-plagiarised-epic-2/

>>6316810
Shit, didn't notice the duplicate d4v video

Posted in the last thread, anyone know if there's a systematic way to hunt down slimetrails in a map or if there's a tool that can do this for you?

doot

I like projectile weapons better, like in Unreal. It allows for enemies to dodge them and seem more intelligent while providing more difficulty without it seeming cheap.

>>6316830
open up the map file and search for the slime entity

MUSIC MODS:

FOR CRISPY DOOM AND GZDOOM ONLY:
Roland SC-55 Music Packs: all the original Doom 1, Doom 2, and Final Doom music recorded in free lossless audio codec (FLAC) on an actual Roland synthesizer, just like the one Bobby Prince used to compose the original Doom and Duke 3D music! Download the boosted FLAC versions
> http://sc55.duke4.net/games.php#doom
To use in GZDoom, simply load the .zips like you would any other mod.
To use in Crispy Doom: See pic related. Unzip the files in your music-packs folder (to find the music-packs folder, type %appdata% in your start menu and open the crispy-doom folder). Put Doom 1 music in a folder called doom1-music, TNT's music in a folder called tnt-music, and so on. Download the configuration files on the right side of the page and put those directly in the music-packs folder.

For Plutonia music, use Jimmy's MIDIs!
> http://jamespaddockmusic.com/doom/plutonia-midi-pack/

>>6316819
You humor me greatly with your accusations

MUSIC MODS continued:

FOR GZDOOM ONLY:
IDKFAv2 (Doom 1's original music, performed by Andrew Hulshult)
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGK1dr-Ql0w

Doom Metal Vol 5 (music for Doom 1 and Doom 2)
> https://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom/downloads/doom-metal-soundtrack-mod-volume-5

Now That's What I Call MIDI (800 songs converted into MIDI)
> https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=54096

FOR ALL SOURCE PORTS:
To use Now That's What I Call MIDI, or any MIDIs, to their fullest potential, download a MIDI player like VirtualMIDISynth, and download some soundfonts to play the MIDIs with.

Some soundfonts to play with (if you have more recommendations please reply to this post!):
Airfont380 (very good metal soundfont)
Touhou / SGM v2.01 (other metal soundfonts to try)
Mysung Kite (1 gig, very big, very good quality sounds. Sounds great with Eviternity's Heaven MIDIs, for example)
SC-55 (the original soundfont Doom's music was made in. Use if your source port cannot run the FLAC music packs, or to play with other 1990's megawads)
Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth soundfont (the default Windows MIDI-player soundfont, test it with some old-school megawads, sounds good with Hell Revealed MIDIs for example)
8-bit NES (fun to use this while playing D4V in Chocolate or Crispy Doom)
GZDoom's soundfont (comes with GZDoom; another soundfont to test out while playing classic WADs)

>>6316819
>Redneckerz stepping in with his faggot routine as usual

can we not bring outside drama in here
if you really care that much go post in their forums

>>6316879
Isnt that the same guy that whined and got the corona mod removed from zdoom forums? He seems to be quite lacking in tact or self-awareness.
>>6316869
Just put this in a pastebin and request that it be added it to the OP. Stop reposting it in every thread.

AESTHETIC MODS:

VANILLA-COMPATIBLE (works with all source ports, including Chocolate Doom):
Vanilla Doom Smooth Weapons
> (don't use this with custom maps with custom monsters or game will crash)
> https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/102462-vanilla-doom-smooth-weapons/
Per Kristian's Hi-Res Doom Sound Effects
> https://www.perkristian.net/game_doom-sfx.shtml
Doom Minor Sprite Fixing Project
> https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/62403-doom-2-minor-sprite-fixing-project-v19-release-updated-12718/

GZDOOM:
Brightmaps Plus
> https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=64299
Smooth Weapons Enhanced
> https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=32628
Sound Caulking
> https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/71133-sound-caulking-now-on-idgames/
Bolognese Gore mod unofficial update (fixes arch-vile bug)
> https://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom/addons/bbgorenew
Simple Motion Blur
> https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=103&t=62772
SpriteShadows
> https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=54992
Steve's Flashlight Mod
> https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=59429
Tilt++
> https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=55413
Weapon Sway
> https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=62634
Nostalgic Secret Sounds
> https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=58283
Shader Tools / Bloom Boost
> https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=103&t=59289
Fullscreen Statusbar Mod
> https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=63863

Load these mods with a LOWER priority than the WAD you are playing with, so that the WADs custom sounds will over-ride any custom sounds you add (load the custom map last).
Generally speaking, don't use these custom weapon sprites mods with WADs that have their own custom weapons, and don't use spritefix or Brightmaps Plus's sprite mods (texture mod is still good!) with WADs that use custom monsters.
>How do I know if the WAD I'm playing has its own custom monsters or sprites?
Download Slade, and open up the WAD using Slade, and skim through the graphics

>>6316867

Listen here you little shit

>>6316904
>Isnt that the same guy that whined and got the corona mod removed from zdoom forums? He seems to be quite lacking in tact or self-awareness.
One and the same.

HaoeaH

>>6316925
Surprising how cute that actually sounds.

>>6316925
Why the fuck did he do it

>>6316916
Corona Mod?

I've been struggling with a thought /vr/. I've been making these maps and I'm starting to feel the limits of the Doom 2 vanilla format. Should I switch to the zdoom format? It's really irking me that I cant even do something like set triggers to monster deaths in vanilla. And if I do switch, is it easy to convert my current doom 2 format maps into gzdoom ones?

>>6316994
Have you experimented with all the things you can do in Boom format, like with vodoo dolls and conveyor belts?

>he doesn't have a furry rabbit waifu that loves him and slays demons with him
Sad.

>>6317026
He has a furry puppy waifu that loves him and slays demons with him instead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQz8dYfUtDE

>>6317008
Well the idea is that I want it to be compatible with vanilla doom or I may as well just use the option with the most tools.

>>6317035
That joke really did overstay its welcome.

>>6317039
Boom is the next best thing if you want to keep it close to vanilla, the maps will still have full demo compatibility, for example.

>>6317053
yeah but they wont run on vanilla doom right

That's the only thing that makes the difference--should I give up on making sure the wad is vanilla compatible or not

Is it not possible to reach Scythe 2's Map32 in a singleplayer game? Looking at the map in an editor, the secret exit seems to become inaccessible when you step off the starting sector.

>>6317093
you have to do a perfect speedrun to get to map32
there is a reason the example zdoom's xlat page gives is for slowing down the auto-closing door for scythe2 map31

>>6314928
>Played it, was nice. A bit sluggish performance in places, I guess it's too modern for my laptop. Also, good to see the art of writing cringy teenage attempts at humor is still alive and well.

The r_speeds are quite high, but you must have a very old laptop if that impacted performans.

And yes, I wanted to savour the essence of my youth with the writing. It feels so liberating.

>>6317093
>>6317104
:) Get ready to start grinding. They are not exaggerating when they say
>This is very hard to do and requires extreme speedrunning.
Post here with an update if you actually manage to make it

>>6317137
I did get it, but I'm playing with Project MSX and it still took me several tries. I don't think I could ever manage it in vanilla. I can just barely manage surviving Run From It on UV, and that doesn't have coked-up plasma marines blasting away at me.

>>6317026
DOOMGUY WATCH OUT THERE'S A DEMON RIGHT NEXT TO YOU!

>>6316872
topkek

>>6317190

>>6316875
You could also add Shane's performance of the original ost. I personally prefer it over IDKFA

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=24423

>>6317167
I remember the trailer to MSX, it was memorable. How playable is the actual mod? I dislike gameplay mods, but I might just make this one exception.

>>6317223
Dumguy it was nice to now you. You were alright. Uh-huh.

>>6317113
>you must have a very old laptop if that impacted performans
It's not that old, but it has a very low end discrete GPU. Still, it can run the modern RE remakes at 30ish FPS with medium settings so it's not like it's absolutely ancient or anything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBU34NZhW7I

what wads should i play in order to stop being such a little bitch /doom/

>>6316810
stop fucking up news post nerd

>>6317330
this was someone else this time.

Memento Mori map06 is comfy af

>>6316794

Is it true that Ultimate Doom and Doom 2 are actually unbeatable on UV? Someone said it in the last thread

>>6317343
Yes.

>>6317346
So weird that it's been like 20 years and still nobody has beaten Doom on anything higher than HMP

>>6316925
I hope some mod includes that as a Hell Knight taunt.

how is the doom64 port from steam? worth getting?

>gee anon this mapset sure sucks. good thing your maps aren't anything like this, right?

>>6317373
Go on...

>>6317365
It's the same as doom64ex, but more accurate.

>>6317365
Yes, it's fantastic. It's extremely accurate to the point it syncs up exactly with the N64 rom, or so I've been told.

>>6317365
It seems to be fine. The new episode also seems to be good, or at least average. I'd say give it a buy and return it if you aren't satisfied, or if you hate bethesda.

>>6317390
Is it out already? Is it worth it for those extra levels?

I love how the Cyberdemon can defeat both the Spider Mastermind and the Mother Demon.

>>6317394
>>6317390
>>6317383
o yeah, I totally forgot about the new episode. its cheap anyway, so I'll get it

>>6317396
It's been out for a few weeks and the extra levels are good enough. I'd say it's worth a buy (or pirating) for the sole reason of being the best way to play Doom 64.

>>6317404
It can't be much better than just playing it on N64 emulator which is extremely easy to do.

>>6317406
You'd be surprised.

>>6317406
It's been ages since I played it on an emulator, but I'd say it's better for being a modern port with all the bells and whistles that come with it.

>>6317408
Yeah, all the bells and whistles! Like, ugh...

>>6317413
Better mouse support, for one? Are you being a contrarian for the sake of it or something?

>>6317415
Mouse was perfectly fine as I recall. No, I'm just really wondering WHAT COULD BE BETTER if it works perfectly on N64 already?

>>6317418
Better resolution and increased framerate, which results in a better, cleaner presentation. Unless you prefer the original's chunkiness.

>>6317421
> presentation
Why don't you put on your freshly ironed tie to boot, faggot?

>>6317421
>kek engine

>>6317093
You have about 12 seconds to be able to reach it, IIRC.

>>6317427
>Why don't you put on your freshly ironed tie to boot, faggot?

>>6317406
Doom64 EX was originally the most popular way of playing it on PC

>>6316819
>complaining about having your sectors stolen when your wad steals assets from Powerslave

>>6317026

Anyone got a link to Hedon?

Also any megawads that have a similar look to Arcane Dimensions?

>>6317457
Stealing from someone else within the community isn't quite the same as using assets from another game in a harmless mod.
One is an issue of trust among peers. The other is just a legal issue that probably isn't going to happen outside of specific extreme cases.

>>6317265
It's very chaotic, but not in the bad way like you'd see in more typical gameplay mods. Your weapons are very powerful and the recharging shield lets you get away with risky, aggressive plays, but punishes you severely if you mismanage it. The energy system that lets you sprint, high jump, dash, and charge your grenades and punches is a bit on the clunky side, but it's impressive stuff for a mod of its age. The enemies are the relative weak point of the mod, with some being disproportionately more threatening than others. Imps are far more dangerous than most of the enemies above them, and the human enemies have pretty smart AI while the bigger monsters mostly follow basic Doom routines with extra attack patterns at best. Cacodemons are barely threatening at a distance, and their melee isn't too strong either, but if you're just outside melee range they use a scream attack that absolutely shreds you and covers a huge area.

This is really all nitpicking that I can only sort out when I'm not actually playing it, though. In the moment you don't really get the chance to think about this stuff at all, it's just a pure adrenaline rush. Definitely worth a try if you're not the sort to normally like gameplay mods. It's a very different experience to vanilla Doom without being totally unrecognizable.

>>6317069
Will still run on Prboom+ which is 99% vanilla. Even a lot of vanilla maps still break limits such as the save size limit or just go for the limit-removing format instead.

>>6317323
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/107015-wad-progression-for-skill-improvement/

I just finished Blood Post Mortem (via Raze) on Extra Crispy and found it super fun. I expected to need to savescum a lot more than I actually needed to. It was a really fun mixture of twitch reflexes and movement in big, chaotic fights. I'm gonna play through the rest of the episodes in Extra Crispy now.

Okay Requiem I think this is TOO MANY pinkies

>>6317507
Nevermind, the constant teleporter noises made it seem like there were more pinkies than I thought, I assumed the extras were going into the room to the left when they were just getting teleported back into the room they started in then returning.

Is it morally ethical to set par time for you map from a speedrun walkthrough that uses archvile jump?

>>6317512

I don't think anybody gives a shit about par times but I wouldn't call "fastest possible time" a par time.

At what level do you stop playing a megawad when none of the previous levels were fun

>>6317516

3 or 4. I'd warp to later levels just to see em tho.

>>6317516
Map01 if it causes a terrible enough impression. Looking at you Whitemare

>>6317507
>>6317510
I'm not trying to blogpost about my Requiem playthrough but guys how the FUCK did the mapper pull off this faked room-over-room in MAP31? I can't find the trick, it feels fucking seamless and I've never seen anything done like this in vanilla.

This is the biggest asspull I've done for this weapon set but it's still cool.

>>6317528
Invisible teleporters?

>>6317529
They're adorable!

>>6317523
Speaking of Whitemare, what were they thinking when making its weapon set in Final Doomer? This wad is known for its annoying long range encounter, slow projectile shotguns and a flamethrower are the last thing you would want in it.

hey /doom/, I made a short anonymous doom-related survey and I'd really appreciate some responses so I can have some data to analyze. It should only take about 5 minutes.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/13P06v-5mMLRJB0f3K2dmpg7dtUslAvq4T6skvGYT2MA

cheers!

>>6317530
I don't think vanilla has invisible teleporters.

>>6317537
Oh yeah, Requiem was old enough to be pure vanilla. Hmmm, might go and check that effect myself later.

>>6317535
On the other hand, charge that rocket launcher up and suddenly you've got a fucking Spirit Bomb.

>>6317528
Might be the fake floor trick, if you view that room in GZDoom's hardware renderer it's completely broken, but looks fine in software.

Now that I done balancing "Bad Reception", I need help re-balancing the first map I ever made, that is supposed to come after it. I bundled them together in a single wad as MAP01 and MAP02.

There's also MAP08 which is a copy MAP02 but succumbing to hellish corruption - I want to use it as a later level, but it's only started. You can take a look but don't expect anything good.

>>6317512
Par time should be fast but still attainable by normal people, not "speedrunners only".

Why are the Newgothic Movements named like that?

>>6317546
>if you view that room in GZDoom's hardware renderer it's completely broken
Damn, you're right, I just checked. Considering how historically significant Requiem is, why wouldn't Graf work to make sure it renders accurately? I have to imagine whatever trick they used would be copied by other wads further down the line

>>6317553
>Graf
>making sure older stuff can keep up with GZDoom

>>6312692
>>6312838
More Deus Ex wallpapers

>>6317563

>>6317565

>>6317492
>Even a lot of vanilla maps still break limits such as the save size limit
Savegame and demo limits are pretty much never taken into account in vanilla mapping as they're not exactly something you can reliably build around, and don't effect the playability of a map anyway. Chocolate Doom even made them optional, as at the end of the day, they only existed to help conserve space on 90's era computer storage.

I just got to the navel base in deus ex. How many more hours in the game are there?

>>6317516
Depends on how long each level is. Can happen as early as map01 if its long enough.

>>6317582
Not many. I think that leaves about 3 chapters, but they aren't as long as NY or Hong Hong were.

>>6317523
Shit taste. I looooove the first map of Whitemare. It felt like a Half-Life map. It drips in atmosphere and mood, and that music! A shame the rest of it wasn't like that. And map14, or maybe it was 15? That enormous map where you start at 1hp and no weapons and explore this gigantic tundra of enemies to face, with that final assault on the ship? Fucking amazing stuff.

>>6317634
I didn't like that big dumb Revenant ambush. I have no problems with big monster crowds, but I like my mapsets to start off a bit more forgiving so I can appreciate the tone and atmosphere they are trying to set, which in this case is indeed beautiful. Even other punishing WADs like Ancient Aliens don't bring on the pain so quickly so you can get a feel of what the mapset is like before cranking up the bullshit meter.

>>6317640
That's probably why Whitemare2 is more popular.

>tfw you load a wad that you haven't played in a while and you easily breeze through ambushes you thought impossible back then

>>6316790
>When you post here about how you got to map 13 and got burned out and quit, I'll be here to say, "I told you so!"
Heh, I got burnt out several times on Doom 1 before beating it so maybe. We'll see. I'm gonna make a start on Doom 2 today. I don't know whether to go with HMP or UV for a first playthrough, for Doom 1 it seems like I probably could've handled UV on E1 and E2 but on E3 when I did play it on UV it was a pain from low ammo supplies, and E4 was pretty hard even at HMP but it's one of the hardest Doom episodes ever to my knowledge. So I'll see.

>>6316785
I was considering doing that. But wasn't sure. I guess I can add a vile per pack. That'll show them.

Is WASD key configuration valid if I'm trying to play the game as faithfully to the olden days as possible?

>>6317678
dos doom supports wasd+mouse, but it didn't become a common control scheme until '97-98

Gonna go into Doom 2 with a few mods but still keeping it vanilla as possible for my first go around. Does this look good anons?

>>6317704
I'd add brightmaps plus.

>>6317706
Not too sure if that'd be steering too far from a vanilla experience, hell, what does brightmaps plus do anyways?

>>6317343
This joke wasn't funny years ago, and isn't funny now.

>>6317714
Make selected parts of certain sprites and textures show brighter in the dark, such as the eyes of some demons, the lamps on some textures, screens and diodes on computers, etc.
Looks pretty gnarly IMO, a bit like in Duke Nukem 3D

You don't even need to use Brightmaps +, I think it looks kind of gaudy for some of the graphics, GzDoom has its own brightmaps already. Get the ones for the Spritefixes if you're using those.

>>6317724
I assume by brightmaps for the sprite fixes you mean the Dehacked stuff? I was gonna use it but the change to the SSG's sprite worried me that it might not be compatible with Smooth Doom because of the extra frames.

>>6316794

>>6317346
LIAR

Recommended mods for my first playthrough of Doom as an adult? Would love to enhance it as much as possible without straying TOO far from "the original experience." I understand that's more of a spectrum than a hard line, but basically I'm asking to make the game feel as nice as possible on my modern computer (wider screen, etc.) without becoming something other than Doom.

>>6317756

This guy got you covered.

>>6316908
>>6316875

But maybe, for you its to choose between Beautiful Doom or Smooth Doom. Beautiful Doom has as much bells and whistles as possible, while smooth is much more tame. Both need GZDoom.

>>6317756
These are what I use
>Doom Complete/WadSmoosh
Puts every official WAD+SIGIL into a single WAD that lets you access any of them from the menu
>pk_doom_sfx
Audio overhaul for better sounds that stay accurate to the original by using the same sound libraries
>Vanilla Essence
Takes GZDoom and forces it to 1993 vanilla settings, from there you can work backwards to get a good balance of classic/modern by turning on wide-screen, dynamic lights etc. or whatever floats your boat
>Smooth Doom/Smooth Textures
Smoothed out animations for both weapons and enemies, as well as reimplementing cut death animations. Not the most light weight but I feel it strikes a good balance between lightweight and feature creep. If you don't like smoothed out enemies then there's plenty of smooth weapons only stuff
>idclever_starter
Lets you force pistol starts on all maps if thats your thing
>fullscrn_HUD
HUD that keeps the originals HUDs aesthetic but splits it across widescreen
>flac packs
The original music, bass boosted and with no requirement for trying to sort out MIDI synthesizers
>brightmaps
Lets certain textures appear even in dark areas, ala tv in a dark room

>>6317782
>>6317756
And how it looks in play

>>6317782
>>6317784
>fullscrn_HUD
>HUD that keeps the originals HUDs aesthetic but splits it across widescreen
Wow, I can't believe I haven't tried this one until now. Guess the standalone Final Doomer HUD just got replaced for me!

>>6317756
>mods for my first playthrough of Doom as an adult? Would love to enhance it as much as possible without straying TOO far from "the original experience."
Spritefixes, Brightmaps, then Vanilla Essence

>>6317548
What is it with you and always forgetting to add a link?

>>6317829
>>6317548
God damn it. This time I didn't even notice.
https://mega.nz/file/esBUwQ6T#8RS2WXWn1vwr_g9EveJUhxMM-vwHD8ghfUJHKsZH8ps

>>6317782
>>pk_doom_sfx
I'd argue not to use this, as it sounds awkward, the low definition of those old sounds make them sound more fitting.

>>6317782
>>flac packs
>The original music, bass boosted and with no requirement for trying to sort out MIDI synthesizers
Bro, just get put SC55 in the soundfont folderand apply it via Fluidsynth, it's super easy.

>>6317832
This one is better anyways https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/110822-doom-sound-bulb-hd-sounds-that-stay-true-to-the-original/

>>6317838
What does the extras file include?

>>6317832
I don't know, I really like the snappier crack of the pistol/chaingun shots.

>>6317841
Some additions to enemies that use the sounds of other enemies. Now that have their own alert, pain and whatever noises

>>6317847
Ah so kinda like Sound Caulking

>>6316148
Someone implemented it using webgl and worked well and even more optimized than vulkan.

>>6317852
>>6317847
God damn, thanks for the recommendation, I always thought Sound Caulkings chaingun sounded like shit but Sound Bulb sounds way better

>>6317546
>>6317553
That sounds like a bug.

>>6317559
Fuck off with that shit. It's SUPPOSED to work, and if it isn't, that's a bug and should be reported. There's literally a thread specifically for issues like these in the forums so go report it instead of whining about Graf -> forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=60181

>>6317903
>Fuck off with that shit. It's SUPPOSED to work, and if it isn't, that's a bug and should be reported. There's literally a thread specifically for issues like these in the forums so go report it instead of whining about Graf -> forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=60181
Aaaaand why not do it yourself, seeing as you seem to be rather passionate about the topic?

>>6317852
Yup like sound caulking.

>>6317887
I personally just use the d64/psx pistol sound for the chaingun, but I'm glad you like it.

>>6317903
Fuck off le no chicken

>Dead Marine is by the same modder as Smooth Doom
>he wants to reimplement and update Dead Marine as an optional module for Smooth Doom
Huh. Hopefully he does it soon, Dead Marine is definitely my favourite "flair" mod

Does anyone remember this?

Why didn't that Halloween /vr/ mapping project from a few years ago take off? I don't remember the maps being that bad.

Did anyone tried making Metroidvania-style TC for Doom?

Anybody actually finished Heretic? I played like a lot of fucking levels but it's just SO FUCKING BORING.

>>6317925
Not a TC but i remember either last year or earlier this year someone made a Metroidvania style .wad. I think it was called **** in the dead or Knee Deep in ***, definitely a play on Knee Deep In The Dead

>>6317905
>If you're experiencing a problem, report it as a bug, so that it can be fixed
>NO U!

>>6317914
I remember struggling to get it running with sourceports

>>6317941
Anon, you ARE the one wanting a fix. Why the fuck should I do your work for you, you lazy ass?

>>6317926
I beat first 3 acts. Others are too extreme for my taste.

>>6317926
The D'Sparil fight beats any boss fight from Doom, though.

heretic had better bosses than doom

>>6317962
I wonder how hard fighting those bosses would be as a keyboard turner.

>>6316819
It was such minor parts of the level I'm surprised he bothered at all.
Weird way to tarnish what popularity you have going for you.

>>6317919
Anonymous people on a historically antagonistic message board are hard to wrangle.

>>6317973
I just hope he doesn't have a massive meltdown over this and does something silly like closing down Realm 667.

>>6317952
> implying I remember who the fuck it is
> implying I every knew it to begin with
> implying I'm a fucking nerd

>>6317919
I think a bunch of people had already made maps for a previous project not that long before, and were maybe fatigued.
Shame it didn't take off, I always figure we can dust the thing off and finish it up some other Halloween. Maybe this year?

Anyway, I was very glad that HUH took off and that we finished that.

>>6317990
>he types, as he wastes time on a Chinese mask manufacturing forum

>>6317969
Pretty hard, but I beat them.

>>6317834
The custom music in Map01 disappeared.

The Pinky in the picture couldn't run down the stairs and blocked other monsters.

Add at least one big medkit hidden somewhere in the outdoor area, because the pistol start is QUITE brutal.

That Cacodemon in the small brown room startled me for some reason, kek.

Otherwise, absolutely brilliant map. Nothing further to add, was a lot of fun to play through. Pistol start was tough as shit because the window shotgunners caught me off guard, but I still made it through without dying.

11/10 would bang

>>6317995
There's that too. That fatigue is why a lot of community mapping projects have limits like "20 monsters" or "4 hours" or 1024 maps. Limits the commitment people need to make to. Lowers the barrier for entry.

>>6318014
Forgot picture.

Also it seems like monsters cannot run onto the bridge that leads to the single building on the left side of the outdoor area, so pinkies cannot attack the player while he's on it.

>>6318019
>Also it seems like monsters cannot run onto the bridge that leads to the single building on the left side of the outdoor area, so pinkies cannot attack the player while he's on it.
Yeah, I assume they can't because of gap. I don't really need this gap after I learned more advanced techniques, so I can probably fix it. Or not, maybe I should get rid of pinkies instead, since they are pointless at such a large area.

>>6318014
Also have you ever felt need to jump out of large moving platform?

>>6318034
I didn't jump off the thing when it went up. Do you have an emergency button installed in case player fall off?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47kcQzN-JEQ
That part from 1:30 reminds me of something, but I can't put my finger on it.

>>6317926
I did, but I've only bothered playing it with High Noon Drifter.

>>6318039
Both buttons that control it can be pressed multiple times. However at least two people didn't try to and complained to me, so I will probably make another button that opens up when you first press one in the round tower.

After all, running back there is annoying, regardless. I'm just curious how widespread this might be.

>>6318053
or just make a teleporter that shows up in a wall and glows bright red or something.

>>6318059
Yes, that's even better.

>>6317494
This came in handy for me, I'm also trying to improve my skills. Thanks.

>>6317756
I'm using pic related. But >>6317782 are also good recommendations.

>>6317797
I was using that one as well, mostly because I like dark ui. I changed to Fullscreen hud since it feels more comfortable for me.

Pistol is a weird misbegotten weapon that isn't fun or useful. What if instead of pistol doom would start with some sort of SMG?

>>6318139
Where's SBrightmaps from? I've been looking for Smooth Doom Brightmaps but most of them are forks of Smooth Doom with dumb shit added

>>6317026

>Get buff tan gf
>give her bunny ears
An acceptable compromise in the face of crushing reality

>>6317983
I doubt it. I think he's probably more level-headed than that.

>>6318149
I got it from here:
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=29792

>>6318140
Wrong, the pistol is very useful for pinpoint accurate long range zombie sniping, especially on maps where ammo is low.

>>6318243
chaingun is much more useful for that
once you get CG theres no reason to use pistol, ever.

>>6318140
>>6318243
>>6318248
The pistol is good for shooting switches you can't just punch, I guess?

>>6317995
>>6318018
If we do end up retaking it next Halloween, I would love to take part in it again. I have actually been working on retouching my old swamp map.

>>6318140
Everyone needs a cherry tapper

>>6318263
If I can't punch the switch I get so mad at it that I shoot it twice.

>>6317926
try the Wayfarers Tome mod. basically all it does is tweak the balance numbers a bit but its so much more fun.

>>6316904
>talking about lack of tact for objecting to a corona themed wad
Top kek my man

>>6318290
Upvoted my good man!

Doom World is lively today, what gives?

>>6318352
>>6316819

https://www.realm667.com/index.php/en/home/archiv/17-site-news/2239-statement-regarding-the-plagiarism-accusation

>>6318063
I saw you made a Doomworld thread with your map. You could at least mention your fellow 4chin anons.

After that I watched this Austinado guy testing your map. Oh god this guy is fucking horrible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqPFX_Ouvdc

>>6316819
I don't get why he'd go through the effort when he could just have imitated the sections instead, it's not like they're highly complex and would best be imitated by cutting and pasting, they wouldn't even be particularly time consuming.

I added a timeline , shit's broad.

>>6318402
He has made a response >>6318387

>>6318405
>Kyle Katarn
>an alternate reality version of Star Wars is canon to every single retro FPS

>>6318405
Is Chris Clark fucking himself?

>>6318405
What the fuck is this? How are those thing related beyond conjecture? Why did you make that

>>6318389
I'll mention you in the final release's readme.

>>6318423
He basically did to make every Rainbowsix Operative across 22 games despite there only being two or three books.

>>6318426
>>6318419
he's some sort of "game theory" fag

>>6318405
>Kyle Katarn unleashing every FPS by his seed alone.

Ahhh, the force of the jedi is strong.

>>6317714
>what does brightmaps plus do anyways?
Pic related. This anon did a good explanation >>6317724 It only works in GZDoom. As that anon also noted, GZDoom comes with its own brightmaps. Brightmaps Plus will override them if you load them

>Does this look good anons?
Excellent. Just make sure you don't have GZDoom's texture filter on lol. Also, you added the Doom 2 spritefix .wad, but you forgot the Doom 2 sprite fix dehacked file. Add that to your load order as well.

>>6317730
>the change to the SSG's sprite worried me that it might not be compatible with Smooth Doom because of the extra frames.
Nah I use it with vanilla Doom and it runs flawlessly. The only problems you will encounter are with Boom-compatible maps that have their own dehacked files. Load vsmooth last to make sure it overrides the sprites in D2 spritefix, otherwise in dark areas, parts of your gun will be dark and other parts bright

>>6318387
>Statement regarding the plagiarism """""accusation"""""
>Wall of text (read: excuses)
>Apologizes at the very end

>smite of disrespect

>>6318581
Not really similar at all. Dont be like a TORTanic fag and try to create EPIC FAILS out of thin air.

Ah, excellent. The hole fits perfectly.

>>6318581
yeah right
> hey man why are you cheating
> hold on while i get on my high horse to berate you
vs
> hey man why are you using segments of other peoples maps
> oh god oh fuck why did i do that what was i thinking im sorry

also torm doesn't use a fucking dragon avatar

does the icon of sin shoots spawn cubes in some delay based on time, or is it based on turns for when a cube lands somewhere?
like, a mapper makes it where the spot of a cube and the icon itself are extremely far away
does that make the icon's summoning take longer?

>>6316794
sprite furniture is better if it's breakable

Trying to make cracks through a middle texture was not that great of idea.

>>6317704
can you spoonfeed me and write all these files out, so I can get them and do the same?

>>6318405
>Doom Guy gives birth to cereal killer
It chex out

>>6317406
>t. retard who has never played it on N64
Its runny shit blurry like all 64 games and it's dark as fuck, literally black screen in some parts, the rerelease offers two different brightness options plus the option to turn off texture filtering or use different types of filtering

>>6317406
>preferring gamepad to m/kb
absolute pleb

>>6318832
In the case of Goldeneye, I would. For Doom 64, which is at it core just Doom, Kb+M would obviously be better.

>>6318843
Doom is the easiest FPS to play on a gamepad since you only need to look left and right, up and down is not require.

Anyone else find Ancient Aliens particularly challenging? I'm on map15 and struggling with the wad on UV. It's fun, but hard.

>>6318850
I know, and Doom plays actually pretty well on the old Sega Genesis 6 button, and on any of the Dualshocks, but unlike Goldeneye 64, which was entirely tailored around the N64 and its controller, I don't think it would benefit any from its better qualities.

https://www.deviantart.com/phillgonzo/art/DOOM-Lineup-Satellite-Soda-Daily-Draw-2015-510977550

>>6318879
I'm not clicking that.

>>6318885
Good, I wish I didn't.

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/90900-post-your-doom-textures/?page=45&tab=comments#comment-2109670

>>6318879
The Mastermind is the most wut. It's a fucking BRAIN.

Is Doom World /vr/ approved? What's the culture like there compared to /vr/ Doom Threads?

>>6318916
You shouldn't care what we think and we shouldn't care what you think. Form your own opinion.

Damn you stupid sculls why don't you align like keycard bars?

>>6318638
its weird since mod makers steal shit all the time and no one cares
i remember blood made some invasion mod that was just copy pasted from like 50 other mods and it was pretty popular

>>6318861
I don't like AA. Its ugly, confusing and overlt fond of dumping enemies right on top of you.
And ugly. So fucking ugly. I really dislike the neon style it goes for with all the alien stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5voK4KH73c

>>6318293
Fuck off nigger

>>6318916
It's the kind of cyber cafe that doesn't smell like Funions and socks because they play Quake and Battlefield 2 versus Smash and Melee like other cyber cafes.

It's a rad place.

>>6318919
I'm just gathering info. To me it seems like a pretty cool website.

Damn, this whole construction looked much better in my head.

if doom 2 had more development time, would id consider for the two shotguns to have their own unique slots?
at least with the fist, it's not as useful as a chainsaw unless it's on berserk
the ssg and sg have their own roles

>>6319069
Didn't they do that in the PSX version?

>>6319064
Well, you have to use more sectors so you can use more textures.

>>6318861
Yeah its pretty tough compared to original Doom or older megawads like Scythe or Memento Mori. The author said he put a cyberdemon in the first level to let people know what they can expect and let them drop out immediately if theyre not up for it. And i admit it filtered me at first. I cant handle that kind of constant stressful gameplay for very long chunks of time.

>>6319069
I will never be not mad that pistol not only occupies an entire slot, but it bogs up a button that is very convenient to press, meanwhile I have awkwardly reach out to get plasma rifle.

That's a bit better. Once I add structures to the walls, who knows, it might actually look good.

>>6319069
I'm glad they didn't. I can't stand it when games separate the shotgun keys.

I've never played doom, quake, duke nukem, turok, or unreal. Which is best? And is it the same guy in all games?

>>6319151
All best, not same.

>>6318879
>2015
This predates the overwhelming influx of monster fuckers in the fanbase which is non-HDOOM stuff.

99% of Doom lewds are awful
Except the Cookie Demon I can separate she's supposed to be a Cacodemon

>>6319169
Also a reminder that Doom is highly heterosexual. Homosexuality is unwelcome and unasked for.

>>6319169
i thought hdoom was already relevant in like 2013
wasn't it at its peak around the same time as bd or somewhere after it?

>>6319159
But which one do I start with? diekatana?

>>6319175
Yes

>>6319176
rly? serious sam?

>>6319173
I thought it was around 2014-2015 where it started to become popular. Then when Doom 2016 came out,the franchise became relevant again hence Hdoom popularity increased.
And also a good amount of unfunny fuckers who have to mention it every single time.
BD became popular before that.

>>6319130
I've been trying to get through it without saving, but I might ditch that, as I already have a for a few levels. I know what you mean about the stressful game play. Teleporting 3 archviles within 20 feet of the player can be fun, but over and over and it gets a little annoying. I'm going to beat it, though. I'm in it this deep, I'm going all the way (but I'm just going to warp to the secret levels.)

>>6319172
Based and Red keycard.

>>6318492
Thanks for the advice anon, is this new load order good? Also, so far Doom 2 has been pretty fun, I've forgotten where I was though. >>6318782
I'm unsure if what I have is the best configuration for your needs, so don't treat this as definite, this is just some shit I compiled from the lists here for a vanilla experience. From top to bottom it's:
>https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/62403-doom-2-minor-sprite-fixing-project-v19-release-updated-12718/
A minor sprite fixing project that also has an addon for fixed up brightmaps, haven't tested out the brightmaps yet but it should be fine.
>https://www.perkristian.net/game_doom-sfx.shtml
Per Kristian's Hi-Res Doom Sound Effects, I'm not too sure if it's just my ears playing tricks on me but it seems there's a noticeable difference in quality, overall, sounds good.
>https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/102462-vanilla-doom-smooth-weapons/
Smooth weapons, simply adds more frames to weapon animations. Looks really nice. Don't use it in custom maps with custom monsters though or it'll crash appearently.
>http://sc55.duke4.net/games.php#doom
Roland SC-55 Music Packs, basically the original music recorded on the same synthesizer Bobby Prince himself used. Download the boosted FLAC versions.
>https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=59412
Vanilla Essence, a mod that changes your GZDoom settings to be as vanilla as possible, then you can customize it to your own likings from there.
For more mods and shit in the same vein, refer to these posts:
>>6316869
>>6316875
>>6316908

I'm looking for recommendations for a new Hexen campaign.
I'm not necessarily after big changes to the game or anything, I just like it but want to play with new levels/areas instead of the same old.
Any recommendations for such a thing?

>>6316819
Big deal ... What is the difference in copying and pasting some points if he thinks this is important for his map? It's not like he's stealing anything.

Do you guys try to kill everything and find all secrets on your first play through of a wad? I usually try, but I just played through a map that dropped a cyberdemon in front of the exit and I just said fuck it and ran past him to the end.

>>6319172
>>6319204

>>6319236
Wouldn't be an issue if A), he was open about it, and B), the original author stated he would rather people didn't do that. Now, he says he did it out of negligence and poor memory, which could be true, but it still looks bad to do.
That it was over such simple and small sections like that would perhaps suggest that it wasn't really intended, as it would otherwise be very weird to go out of your way to cut and paste level geometry which otherwise would be pretty easy and fast to imitate manually.

>>6319235
Shadows Of Chronos by Kaiser is a great hub. Vanilla gameplay with some extra textures and great level design.
Towers Of Chaos by ArgonianLord is also good. It uses some zdoom features (like 3d floors) and custom enemies in later levels.
Theres also XUMP if you want a community project.

>>6319172

>>6319172
>Highly Heterosexual
What are you gay?

>>6317914
Hell yeah I thought I was the only one. Had this and Q Zone! in a 2 disc pack. Played the shit out of those as a kid

>>6317914
Some guy actually released a new level for this earlier this year

Considering the remaster was announced not too long ago.
Do you think a gameplay mod based on Shadow Man could work?

>>6319172

>>6319219
Yes is good. For future reference, for when you start using command lines, you load the dehacked files last. For example
> (sourceport) -iwad _ -file _ -deh _
You can't use mod loaders for Crispy Doom, AFAIK, so I was forced to learn to use command lines

>>6319257
Nah I never go for 100% kills and secrets (UV-max). I just try to beat the level. E1M2 has a secret that contains only +4 armor bonuses, so it's useless, and there are maps where there is a door with nothing but a monster behind it, so I consider it better to just skip all the useless crap. If I like a level a lot, or a set of levels, I will cheat and locate all the secrets and plan a route, then try to beat the level or set of levels in a deathless UV run or deathless Nightmare run, depending on the difficulty of the level

>>6319320
I forgot to mention - it probably doesn't matter that you didn't load the .deh file last in the mod loader, but I'm no expert on those

>>6319263
I love this website.

Hey bros, any good Doom podcasts? I have listened to Doom centered episodes of some other podcasts but I am looking for more Doom related shit to listen to on my ride to and from workf

>>6319365
Evolution of the WAD. It pains me to this day that this podcast is dead.

>>6318931
>And ugly. So fucking ugly. I really dislike the neon style it goes for with all the alien stuff
Ew, don't get close to us.

>>6319339
>I love this website.

>>6319320
Yeah, I've been playing with the order for a while and everything seems fine. I don't know if it changed anything much but hey it's there I suppose.

>>6318581
>B-But muh Baukasten System...

>>6319130
It annoys me when people complain about the relatively tame Cybie turret in AA but no one ever talks about the bullshit Revenant ambush at the beginning of Whitemare.

>>6319372
Ill check it out on the ride tonight, thank you

>>6319169
Cookie Demon is far too precious.

>Finish UDoom+Sigil
>now realise I have to trek through the aesthetic murder of Doom that is Doom 2+The Master Levels+TNT

Jesus fucking christ my eyes. Whats everyones favourite Doom 2 "redone" mod?

>>6318879
Aside from the bolted on tits, this isn't too bad desu

>>6319172
this highly heterosexual game has more bara asses and buff chests than most other games. all the while literally no women or sexually feminine things exist in the game at all

though eh i guess the eye switch is vaguely vaginal

>>6319391
>The Master Levels
I wouldn't consider those as essential as the original IWADs or Final Doom.

>>6319394
NEither do I, but I'm just making my way through WadSmooshed Doom

>>6319393
Adrian Carmack can't draw women, just buff dudes and demons and Nazis

>>6319391
imagine thinking tnt is ugly

>>6319408
t. Ty Halderman

>Baukasten System

>>6319414
what? it certainly compliments the aesthetic of doom better than doom 2 ever did

>>6319408
Some parts of it does look pretty nice, but there's parts which absolutely don't.

>>6319417
Yes, we get it.

>>6319420
That was a nice puzzle.

How do I make Doom mapping fun again? When I make maps, I want to make them detailed and cool, but when I start to detail them, I get bored and lose interest. Also board of vanilla textures (of course, this is easy to fix). But in general, how do you guys prevent burn out?

Going through the Quake MPs for the first time ever. How come nobody sings these things' praises? Scourge of Armagon is quite action packed, lots of fun. The new female fiend enemy is a total pushover, even on Nightmare, but everything else about this is really fucking good. Can't wait to try the other two MPs, and then AD.

Also someone should really update the OP to talk about how vkQuake is now objectively better than both Quakespasm,
>Compared to QuakeSpasm vkQuake also features a software Quake like underwater effect, has better color precision, generates mipmap for water surfaces at runtime and has native support for anti-aliasing and AF.
and Quakespasm Spiked.
>Frame rates over 72 Hz don't break physics anymore (from QuakeSpasm spiked)

>be me
>MAP15 Doom 2
>got red keycard
>completely lost
>going from the big tower thing to the other side of the map with that weird castle produces no results as all of them require the yellow fucking key to progress
>no yellow keycard in sight
>can't tell if it's bad level design, me being fucking retarded or some combination of both
The fuck?

>>6319469
Must be a you problem, I beat that map no problem a few days ago. Did you get the BFG?

>>6319474
I got the BFG in it's first spot back in Tricks and Traps. (MAP08 I think?) It's not that the demons are giving me much trouble, maybe aside from Chaingunners, fuck em. But still, it's much less of a factor of difficulty and more just me being painfully lost. I hope Doom 2 isn't mostly comprised of these labyrinth-style levels where it's mostly just trying to navigate the level rather than fighting demons.

>>6319458
They're both very good, but Armagon was kind of boring because I had ammo issues around the crypt map. The spike mines are also super fucking annoying to deal with.

>>6319480
Grab the bfg anyway, trust us.

>>6319484
I don't really know where it is, plus I'm all filled up on Cell ammo. I assume this is either a meme or I'm supposed to find it which will reveal a trap that has the keycard inside it so I can progress. Either way I'm kind of dense.

>>6319458
>The new female fiend enemy
Uh, what made you think the gremlins were female fiends?

>>6319492
It's on the tower from where you can jump down to the far end of the map. Get on the habit of pressing use on any wall or piece of furniture that looks remotely interesting.

>>6319506
Okay yeah I'm just retarded, I was circling the tower and all and just happened upon the open doorway that led straight to it, beats me if I had interacted with something on my way to it or I've just been neglecting to look behind me this entire time but hey hopefully the level should be better from here. I think I'm gonna go to bed after this, it's clear playing at 3:30am does a number on one's ability to fucking see shit.

Look at this joker leading a prayer.
>>6319494
The female voice and the hippity hops.

>>6319531
>The female voice and the hippity hops.
What. Well, uh, I suppose so?

Anyone here wants Turok 2 on Steam? Got a leftover code from the COVID-19 bundle. I want to give it to someone who'll actually play it. It's a pretty good remaster.

>>6319537
It's already in the OP

I get this error message in GZDoomBuilder. I feel like I messed something up with the skies when I started making the wad. I haven't used the sky texture for the first four maps, so it wasn't a problem, but now I want to use one. It shows normally in Doom Builder, but in the game it's just pitch black. What could be the problem?

>>6318861
Yeah, it was probably my most challenging Doom experience so far, though I admit I'm pretty new to it. It makes stuff like Plutonia seem like a cakewalk.

>>6318931
The aesthetics of the mod were great though. I do agree about it being a little overly challenging/cheap but I think it's nice to look at.

>>6319185
Hdoom is fine but people bandwagoning around it because 'lol hentai so weird' is annoying.

>>6319408
TNT is underrated. Not perfect, but it deserves more credit.

>>6319593

Sounds like your resources or maybe TEXTURE1 lump are fucked. Presumably you're using a resource wad?

>>6319393
Only a sick mind would think about homosexuality when lookin at doom. Shame on yourself. People like you killed genuine friendship and brotherhood between men in popular culture.

>>6319596
No resource wads. But yes, there seems to be something wrong with TEXTURE1. I'll try to fix it. Thanks for pointing me to the right direction!

>>6319607
>Only a sick mind would think about homosexuality when lookin at doom
you mean that thing you just did in your first post there

>>6319620
>no you
Why are homos so bad at arguments?

>>6319469
There is a teleporter in the magma ravine separating the level in half that leads to the yellow card. It is tucked in a corner of one of the building walls.

>>6319623
you literally brought up how homosexuality relates to doom you projecting cock addict. go jack off to your ~le heterosexual~ cybie ass some more

>>6319630
Okay, homo. Enjoy your aids.

>>6317925
DOOM is already three-quarters of the way there. You have non-linear levels, keycards needed to open up other parts of the level facilitating flow, weapons you pick up over time to boost your combat potential (if you're pistol starting), really the only thing missing is the keycards you pick up and the weaponry you obtain aren't directly tied together. Making a full Metroidvania DOOM would primarily just be a new weapon set that gives you new movement abilities, and levels built around using those abilities to progress.

A follow-up question. I am pretty sure that you can make a proper window here that only shows the sky texture without there midtexture walls. How do I accomplish that?

>>6317925
strife

>>6319640

You need a border sector with a zero floor and ceiling height with F_SKY1 as the ceiling texture. Check out DBP20 map03 if you want look in DB.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1yGV1oATd7_AALwsEFK0_Z5Kr39KZomMk

>>6319393
I'm not that anon but musculature isn't gay. Gay people can be attracted to muscles but you don't have to be gay to appreciate a well-crafted body on a platonic level.

>>6318879
Funny, this is quite close to what a lot of people here wanted HDoom to be, instead of anime girls.
Now that they got it, they don't want it.

>>6319646
Thanks! That worked.

>>6316794
are there any good WADs with levels that make use of a mixture of standard doom textures and wolfenstein ones? Possibly while also using the SS soldiers? I remember seeing a video of such a map but I can't remember what wad it was from

>>6319653

>>6319647
agree. i think associating overt sexual preference with doom is stupid, but if we're going to over-interpret there, it's pretty overtly homosexual. certainly not heterosexual in any particular way.

So which one of the older wads are worth playing? I mean both stuff like TNT and Plutonia and unofficial but popular wads.
Right now I'm going through these
Doom->Sigil (on HMP)->Doom II
But I'm not sure in what order or even if I should do TNT/Plutonia/Master levels

>>6319673

Of course you should play TNT and Plutonia. The more Doom the better.

I'd do Master Levels > Plutonia > TNT (you might not finish TNT)

https://www.doomworld.com/10years/bestwads/

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/103408-big-vanilla-classic-wad-collection-doom-doom2/

I don't really get why people complain about SIGIL being too hard on UV. Doing my first playthrough of it right now and it's not too far from Thy Flesh Consumed, if anything it feels a lot more better paced and put together. Really digging how oppressive it can be.

>>6319449
The detailing process may be the reason of your burn out. Try to concentrate on the layout itself. Vanilla mapping works for me exactly for that reason: You can't add too many stuff on the same area or it will reach the limits - that gives an incentive to finish the dawn thing. Speedmapping is also another alternative that works in a similar way.

>>6319449
>>6319702

Yeah, maybe try making vanilla style maps. A lot of Mr Chris' maps are in that 94 style. Same goes for Doomkid.

https://doomwiki.org/wiki/User:Mrchris

>>6319684
Babies were expecting easy E1-style Romero maps, only to get a faceful of E4M2-style Bitchmaker Romero.

>>6318931
>And ugly. So fucking ugly. I really dislike the neon style it goes for with all the alien stuff
Do your eyes work? I think you may need glasses.

>>6319652
>to what a lot of people here wanted HDoom to be
Just a very vocal and autistic minorty,

>>6319752
I'd prefer if HDoom girls were more monstrous but not to that extent.

Do you guys use the standard number keys for weapon switching, or do you have other specific keys you set for certain weapons?

>>6319772
Someone should grab the hair from the HDoom Imp-tan sprites and put them on these, see what it looks like.

>>6317365
It's great. I have no idea how people were playing this on the 64 though.

>>6319789

I use binds similar to my old Q3 ones

>>6319818
I found it at the time when it was new, to be way too fucking dark and the controller wasn't great for it. Now it kicks ass though.

>>6319841
Nice, might try these for Quake.

>>6319657
Wow, this is based.

John Romero has a whole collection of retailer specific boxes that stores made for Doom 1 shareware. Some are just copy pasted screenshots and text, some are more like this with original artwork. I find that shit really neat.

>>6319818
>>6319843
This makes me wonder, has anyone ported Golden Eye to computer with full mouse and WASD support?

>>6319852
>>6319657

Me too dude, I love the old art. I really like the Lost Episodes one too.

>>6319684
I find the flow of the levels and the secrets to be fun and classic Romero, I was smiling finding secrets and traps playing much of it

>>6319856

Dolphin can do that AFAIK

>>6319856
I think there is some kind of either reconstruction of it for PC like that or some kind of port with those controls but I was never into Goldeneye outside the 4 player split screen days when it was widely popular

>>6319859
Never seen those but they're fucking awesome.

I been meaning to go on a search online and find all I can and make my own collection of images of the covers. They were non official art but should be still be preserved

>>6319864
Also this
>>6319863

>>6319865

Check these out:

https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Shovelware_cover_art
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/List_of_books

>>6319856
It's possible to use KB+M with an N64 emulator.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UR0Oi3Ubqj8

>>6319684
I just want to use this opportunity to say that I think SIGIL is great and I don't get why people don't like it.

>>6319647

>>6319841
> 1, 2, ... 8, 9
???

>>6319925

Chainsaw shares a slot on 1 with fists and SSG sits on E with regular shotgun.

Playing through Blood on extra crispy and just noticed that this is a se7en reference (recently rewatched it).

>>6319940

>>6316794
i don't know whether to say who or why

>>6319946
In regards to what?
Did I do something wrong?

Does anyone have that set of stick figure drawings showing that Doom's centered weapons actually make sense?

>>6319951

I think he's referring to the image but I'm not sure why.

>>6319789
>>6319841
>>6319850
Quake anons, how do you configure your keybinds? I want to try something that allows me to take best advantage of the instant weapon switching.

>>6319993
Mousewheel?

>>6319879
Now this is art

Which one is harder on ultra-violence?
Thy flesh consumed or Plutonia?

>>6319994
Not fast enough, I want to go full Gunslinger Dante with those weapon combinations.

>>6319998
Plutonia by far. Thy Flesh Consumed isn't even consistently hard.

>>6319993

Do you mean for sp or mp? If just sp then I use binds which are again similar to my Q3

RL = E
GL = R
LG = mouse2
SNG = Q
NG = C

It's all personal preference, just have the main weapons easily accessible from WASD (Q, E, R, mouse2 if you want) and when you get used to them you're set.

>>6320000
Nice quads

>>6319995

If you wanna trawl through some shovelware

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Xy-YDWytlEa2CS9rit-PUgcieh4MrGzR

>>6319998
Plutonia by far. Thy Flesh Consumed actually gets easier the further you go into it with only the first two levels being true in-your-face dickishness, while Plutonia only ramps up as you go in

>>6320000

Can a Crispy Doom head help me out? I'm using Virtual Midi Synth with the GZDoom soundfont since I like it a lot. When a track begins, there's an extremely obvious delay as it gets started and it's super, super annoying.

i swear people with cacodemon avatars always have shitty opinions

>>6320058
What DOOM monster has the best opinions?

Why doesn't the spider mastermind get any love

>>6320061

probably barons or mancubi i dunno

>>6320070
I dunno, mancubi look like feminists to me.

>>6319268
Thanks for that, I really appreciate it.

>>6320061
>>6320070
>>6320078
Zombiemen because they're the humblest.

>>6320061
archvile

>>6320078
Exactly.

Oblige level maker is based and is most likely a better mapper than u :)

>>6320091
Terrible, anon. Terrible.

>>6320070
>>6320084
I'd say Revenants because yeah.

>>6319429
no

>>6320069
because HDoom never gets updates

>>6320049
That has to do with your VMS settings. Go to VMS Options, and adjust the "Additional Output Buffer." I don't know what is the optimal number, I just set it to 16 milliseconds (one-sixtieth of a second). That will eliminate that annoying sound

>>6320092
Joke's on you, I use Oblie to make my maps :^)

>>6320092
how do i into oblige?

>>6319993
I put a bunch of weapons on f1-f4.

>>6320145
Thank you soooooo fucking much. Goddamn. Love ya.

>>6319998
Plutonia for sure.
Only one third of TFC is actually hard.

>>6320058
IIRC, a lot of cacodemon avatars on doomworld were stock choices on the website, and new members weren't allowed to upload their own avatar until after a certain amount posts.

>>6320069
Her massive hitbox pretty much limits when a mapper can use her. The fact that she can infight with other masterminds also limits the challenge potential behind using multiple. The chaingunner also exists, and is just much easier to use.

>>6320221
In other words, TOO FAT!

Now that I've finished with Derelict Plant and The Chamber, I'm going back to work on MAP02: The Burning Wall.

What enemies does you consider 'fair' for a map 2 of an episode?

>>6320227
i'm not into super sized big ugly spiders, anon.

>>6320237
Shotgunners

Pretty happy with the start of this, I need to make a fancy hitspark, but god damn it hits like a truck.

>>6320237
Use Revenants as minibosses.

>playing MANOR.WAD from Master Levels
>run in circles for 10 minutes trying to understand how to get the blue card
>decide to watch a walkthrough online
https://youtu.be/zusPA--ZwH8?t=34
Wow, fuck that. There's also this level in master levels in which the only way to get the yellow card is to do a glitchy strafe50 jump because the switch to lower the card is nowhere to be found. Needless to say I am NOT enjoying myself. Half of the wads are great but man the other half....

>>6320251
Master levels is just a bunch of user created fuckwuggery. Ignore it.

>>6320237

Barons of hell that can be goaded into infighting one another with explosive barrels

>>6320239
>>6320246
How fucked would a couple of Lost Souls be?

I know they piss some people off but I think theyre a useful tool.

>>6320237

Depends on how many maps you're going for. For a longer wad I'd have up to and including cacos in a map02. Maybe a couple of revs.

It also depends on how you want your wad to play. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see AVs in map01 desu.