/vr/ - Retro Games

I'm glad people are finally waking up to how much of a hack Nomura is.

>>6315437
Hating on Nomura has been a meme for decades now. If you want a real hack look at Tabata.

>>6315437
I can kind of respect his out there storytelling as you can see he gets to express the story he wants to tell. But boy does need a no man.
I think I remember reading that Kojima during the development of MGS had someone tell him that some of his ideas were just a bit too much.

>>6316874
He must of fired that guy then.

>>6316874
>>6316874
>I think I remember reading that Kojima during the development of MGS had someone tell him that some of his ideas were just a bit too much.

Yeah Kojima had some modest hits under his belt but he wasn't a super star. Thus he would have had Konami execs above him would veto some of his ideas. 20 years of hits led to him getting a blank check and that resulted in Death Stranding. Having an editor is really important and keeps you grounded.

Time Ghosts ruin iconic scenes turnign them into slap stick.

>>6317052
Is Yuffie in this remake or what? I got conflicting reports here.

>>6317242

No, they only leave Midgar in the end. Yuffie first appears in the forests past the Mythril Cave near Junon.

>>6317247
fuck's sake, square.
No best girl, no best buy.
Or whatever.

>>6315437
>20 years later
This is a late coping mechanism.

>we have to hide time janny talk because real jannies think this is a modern game

very progressive

first jrpg featuring a disabled protagonist

>>6317052
...Wut...?

>Advent Children
>Kingdom Hearts after the first game

How the fuck does Square trust him to write anymore?

>>6317052
What the fuck is happening? Is this real or fan made?

>>6315425
>>6317052
first thing that came to mind is when you meet Ansem in that cloak for the first time in Kingdom Hearts...also those corny Nobody outfits

>>6317052
What the fuck

>>6318010
>>6318092

Time ghosts.

>>6318136
Holy shit it's worse than I could have imagined lmao. My chinese nes hack cart of ffvii is more faithful.

DID Nomura write this remake? I seem to recall Kitase being credited for writing, just like he wrote the original.

>>6318136
They float around like turds

>>6318154
Yes and the game who wrote for kingdom hearts did as well. Now you know why it’s fucking retarded.

>>6318136
The fuck is a time ghost?

>>6318163
>The fuck is a time ghost?

time ghosts are the actual heroes of Meta Fantasy 7 Rebuild.

>>6318164
I thought the game was a remake? The only ghosts I remember were in the train graveyard.

>>6318167
>I thought the game was a remake?

Do ho ho ho ho ho ho ho.

That was your first mistake. No, this is actually a sequel that takes place afterwards in another timeline. The timelines have been altered and Time Ghosts are there to fix it, but you murder them making destiny up in the air. It's a blunt tool for Nomura to mess with the series.

>>6318172
Can someone verify this? Is this real or troll?

>>6318175
The webm's speak for themselves my dude

>>6318180
It looks fake as fuck. I’ll wait to see more if it’s real.

>>6318184

The game has leaked and people have done 100% playthroughs on twitch and youtube. You can look up the ending. It's all real. This is Nomura's wild ride.

>>6318189
I just cancelled my preorder. Fuck this shit, fuck Nomura.

I wasn't interested in this since there's nothing wrong with the original game.

However, this sort of fuckup is hilarious and perfect example of why this once proud series has been a fucking joke since the mid 2000s. Its stupid and gay.

>>6318198
That sucks mang, always blows when something you've been looking forward to ends up disappointing

I really like the future ghosts idea. I'm not really sorry for the people that wanted a one to one recreation of the original story.
It's going to be a mess.

>>6318198
Thank you for not funding this retardation.

>>6318204
I refunded the new Doom when it turned out that it was always online with an account. Was really bummed out because the last Doom was awesome.

This means I had to give up my free Doom 64 copy too. I did already own it on my actual N64 though, so not the biggest loss.

>>6318209
>Doom 64
How is it? I've thought about picking it up for my 64

>>6318214
A solid, good shooter with good graphics and a good atmosphere. Do not get hyped by people proclaiming it to be the greatest hidden gem, or you'll be disappointed. It was overshadowed at the time for a reason.

>>6318163
The "Arbiters of Fate", basically the equivalent of the WEAPONS for the timestream: They work to preserve the future that gives rise to them or something like that.
They basically fix any attempts at diverging from the original plotline.

>>6318216
>beings that want to maintain the plot integrity are villains to in Nomuraverse
Can't make this shit up

>>6318219
To be fair, it's unclear what Sephiroth's endgame is. He could very well be tricking them into creating a timeline where he can win.
The ghosts fix anything that goes wrong both good or bad (such as when Sephiroth stabs Barret)

>>6318216
>timestream

So we don't know how these rules work but yes it seems that this has nothign to do with Jenova or the Lifestream, the two supernatural beings introduced into the series so far. I fully imagine we see that Sephiroth from a timeline gained access to the End of Creation, which is the end of time and you can view everything. He'll probably give Cloud and Co a speech about how he's seen himself be defeated over and over again. He thus decided to change things.

>>6318226
Wait, Barret dies in this? Is that the big twist I've heard about?

won't lie, I think the time ghost shit is actually really cool and it's very funny to watch Nomura dab on remake retards

just go play ff7

>>6318236
You'd think so, but no. During the Shinra assault, Sephiroth stabs Barret, but one of the time ghosts resurrects him.
The actual twist is more... Nomura. At the end of the highway sequence, a barrier is created (from the Time Ghosts?) which leads into a weird space with a Time Ghost monster. Said monster shows the party visions as they fight it, including Red XIII running through a field from VII's ending/Advent Children. They defeat it, and are teleported to a pocket deimnsion where Sephiroth shows up and the game basically turns into Advent Children. Sephiroth takes Cloud to the Edge of Creation and asks him to defy destiny with him. Cloud rejects him, they fight a bit and Sephiroth whispers some cryptic shit to Cloud before vanishing. The party, upon returning back to the real world, decides to hunt down Sephiroth and stop him. Also, the at some point, there's a flashback to Zack reaching Midgar with Cloud only to find it swarming with Time Ghosts and getting jumped by Shinra troops. During the ending, it cuts back to Zack who survives his fight and the time ghosts surrounding Midgar vanish. It's implied that this is an alternate timeline (maybe a flashback depending on how you take the rain), but Zack and Aerith seem to sense each other.
Also, Biggs lives
That's generally what happens. May have messed up on the Giant time ghost monster thing, but the ending part should be accurate.

>>6318216
People just wanted a remake, keep the story mostly the same.

Nomura is a fucking shitty writer and storyteller. Did you ever see Advent Children?

>>6318269
I’m so fucking glad I cancelled my preorder. Fuck this shit.

>>6318289
you should be ashamed you bought a remake in the first place *dabs*

>>6318285
nah, i think it's pretty cool. sephiroth is now a sort of anti-hero because default ending was rather ambiguous about what happens to humanity in the end, that ending with nature retaking everything was always a point of contention with the fanbase - has been for over 20 years

>>6318269

It appears to be another timeline and for whatever reason the timelines are just out of synch. Zack Lives Timeline seems like 2 weeks behind, while this remake timeline is 23 years behind the FF7 timeline.

>>6318285
I didn't but that's what most people compare the scene to. It does feel very over-the-top regardless.
My personal point of reference is Kingdom Hearts 2's final battle

>>6318285
I personally don't see what's exciting about remaking a game, when the original game is known for its story. I've played FF7 a lot and playing a straight remake of it sounds boring to me as an adult even though it's something I wanted a lot as a kid. I'm now more interested knowing that the story might be different.

>>6318154
>>6318160
No, wrong. Nojima is the writer for both the original (along with Kitase) and the remake.

>Remake being in the name is actually related to the content
at least it wasn’t Final Fantasy VII RE:Make

>>6318172
>No, this is actually a sequel that takes place afterwards in another timeline. The timelines have been altered and Time Ghosts are there to fix it, but you murder them making destiny up in the air.
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>>6318269
soooo, discussing ff7r isn't actually /vr/-legal, considering it's actually not a remake but a side-quel(?)

You think "Final Fantasy 7 Remake" wouldn't be so difficult a concept to SquareEnix, and yet here we are.

>>6318215
>It was overshadowed at the time for a reason.
Maybe it's been hyped a little too much over the years but I'd still take it over the stuff that was overshadowing it at the time (Turok etc)

>>6318642
I wish I had played FF VII back in the day so I could better understand this and become angry about it, because it sure looks fucking stupid. The Last Jedi's release was such a great time to be a Star Wars fan.

>>6318362
>I personally don't see what's exciting about remaking a game, when the original game is known for its story.

75% of people playing the remake haven't played the original. hell it's probably higher than that.

>>6315425
not /vr/ this is a sequel. mods.