/vr/ - Retro Games

Good question, because this game is real crap.

>>6307560

When I played it I was impressed by the highly irritating sound of the skeletons screaming over and over and over. Why do skeletons scream to begin with? Why would the developers have chosen such an annoying sound clip to give them? Why does nobody else complain about this? Do they not experience it? Was my copy glitched? These are the questions I have about Daggerfall.

Sorry OP. It is a cool game but it also is indeed kind of garbage??

>>6307573
Some people say it was sort of a tech demo, to try how big an open world could be. It is indeed the size of a real country, and having SO MUCH stuff means it has a number of bugs that even Fallout 76 can't match. The music can bug, the ssound bugs around light sources, the enemies clip or kill themselves, you can clip through the floor or walls, quests might not work properly, quest items may not appear, NPCs might not speak to you or give/end quests, saves may get corrupt... It is a hardcore experience.
And yes, you WILL get lost. Except the main quest locations, any other dungeon is randomly made with certain "blocks" that dont allow you to follow right hand rule or so, so sidequests are sometimes impossible. The v1.0 is impossible to finish because the main quest is bugged.
If you don't know what you are doing you'll get killed pretty quick at high levels; on the other side, you can also make a titanic allmighty character with the right choices.

It's fucking wild. Play it if you like it, but I'd recommend a good patched version and a guide.
Or try Morrowind instead.

>>6307573
>It is a cool game but it also is indeed kind of garbage?
Thats a good way to describe everything Bethesda ever made

I'm about halfway through the main quest, I think, with my mage character.
Here are some things I'd do differently a hypothetical next time-
-Take the ebony dagger at character creation.
-Use invisibility to get through dungeons, instead of relying on offensive spells that drain magicka quickly.
-Don't minmax leveling and endurance in order to eke out more hp, because it's not that much difference, and wisdom and speed attributes would have helped a lot more.
-Don't worry too much about money and picking up every single loot. After horse and basic gear, money is no longer a concern, and how much money you make scales quickly as you level. Probably don't need a cart.
-Rely on magic items for spamming spells, especially offensive spells, because they hold a lot of charge.
-Don't join a temple just to get Restore Power potions, because they restore very little power, and it's very difficult to find the specific potion recipe.
-With the above tips, don't have to grind so much to get started- just get on with the main quest.

Of course, if I were to play next time, it would be with Daggerfall Unity, because glitching through the stairs and having to load the last save gets old really quickly. Also, Daggerfall Unity adds fun features like random encounters in the wilderness, and the option to have smaller dungeons.

>>6307676
This

>>6308995
Oh, and use the switch hands hotkey to get fists to break open locked doors instead of wasting weapon durability or manually unequipping the character.

My method of not getting lost in dungeons is to leave a quick note with a letter ("N" for north etc) pointing back towards the entrance at every intersection - it's a little tedious but you'll get super quick with it after a while and makes exploration so much easier.

is this on steam? Sounds interesting I love glitchy randomly generated games.

>>6309212
It's free - I'd suggest using the intaller for a patched and streamlined experience
https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Files

>>6309216
does this game work on modern OS? I've been thinking of buying an old PC for retro old school games.

>>6309232
It works fine with the installer - on windows anyway; don't know about mac/linux

>>6307513
For me, it's that it's incredibly atmospheric. The music and the simple but effective weather effects like the rain and the snow, the moody dungeons, the far-off mysterious skyboxes, the feeling of being a tiny figure in an enormous world that doesn't care about you... it's kind of like RPG noir, if that makes any sense.

>>6309252
>Arrive back in Wrothgaria just before the gates close for the night
>Pouring rain
>Hurry to the Inn to rest for the night
>Rent a room and find a QT waiting for me
Daggerfall is max comfy for sure

>>6309278
meant to post comfy rain track as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MatKNNsZzt4

>>6307513
The dungeons are easy to get lost in even with a 3D map. Make sure that you have a pen and paper handy. When some tavern owner gives you a quest you’ll want to write down his name, the name of the tavern and the name of the town or else you’ll never remember who gave you the quest.

I love me some Elder Scrolls. Have been these games through and through since I was a little boy, especially Daggerfall and Morrowind. Recently I've been playing The Elder Scrolls Online and it's actually quite fun. Really shallow compared to anything you'd see in the older games, but I'm still having great time. I can't name a single other RPG similar to Elder Scrolls series which is a shame, not counting first person dungeon crawlers because they're not the same. Maybe the later Might & Magic games, but even those seemed to copy what Elder Scrolls did.

>>6307616
Whats a good version number to try?

>>6309212
>>6309232
I suggest Daggerfall Unity. It's superior in every way to the original, as far as I'm aware.

>>6309278

Looks like Anna gasmeyer in a bikini

This shit sucks

>>6309296
just put a teleport anchor at the entrance of the dungeon

can I have a little technical help please? Some of the books have text extending beyond the right and bottom ends of the screen, any way to fix this?

>>6307513
For me its the tits. Also, it feels like a roguelike more than an Elder Scrolls game, since everything is pretty samey, but with different layouts. I just wish the whole thing wasn't so fucking broken. Nothing like having to save before accepting any quest because you never know if an NPC you need won't be there or a door you need to go through will just not be functional, so the quest is just worthless.

When will DFUnity be available for Android?

>>6310848
A what?

>>6307513
>I know no other game I got so much lost in
in this case, that's due to the fucking terrible game design

>>6311021
You can look up the book on the internet. If you don't want to, you can start a new game in Daggerfall Unity.

>>6311398
Eventually. Apparently, while Bethesda doesn't send cease-and-desist orders to people who make things like OpenMW and Daggerfall Unity, they do insists that the owners of such projects not officially support mobile ports.

Of course, there's very little barring such a thing from being done, technically. It'll just need to be compiled for Android with the filesystem and control kinks worked out. In all likelihood, there'll be a mobile port of Daggerfall Unity around the time the project is in beta or release candidate. Perhaps even before, if someone gets on it.

In the meantime, Daggerfall is playable using DosBox on mobile.

>>6311753
Yeah apparently someone tried to compile it for Android already but ran into trouble doing so.
I'm currently playing it for the first time on my phone, runs great and I set up an easy-to-use interface. The tips in this thread are really helpful.

>>6311804
It looks like somebody with no experience just tried to directly compile it for Android and it failed at a part of the script that tried to create a window (I don't know anything about Unity, but it makes sense that that wouldn't be valid for an Android port). Someone else with more knowledge was successful on a different forum in creating a basic build. Someone who actually has experience developing for Unity will need to take a look.

>>6310751
When I play this it lags to like 3 fps whenever I go to castle daggerfall. What's up with that? I even have shadows off and low terrain distance and everything

>>6312251
Don't play on a toaster. Daggerfall Unity is acually extremely technically demanding.

>>6312269
It's . Not that old? 5 year old Alienware laptop (I fell for the meme I know, but it's not awful).

I feel like it's calculating a bunch of graphics that aren't even on screen for some reason

Jesus fucking christ OP do u know how to use grammer?

>>6312269
>Unity is actually extremely technically demanding.

Good way to describe a shitty engine sir

>>6312664
It's always up to the creator to optimize their game, but yes, Unity has a lot of creators that suck at that. What's worse, Unity games tend to just crash on me after less than 30min of playing, with an unidentified error to boot.

So Morrowind isn't /vr/, which means that we just have to put up with Daggerfall threads forever?
I've run out of things to say about Daggerfall at this point. It's an interesting failure, but that's about all it is to me.

>>6313398
Just wait until modding for Daggerfall Unity takes off. There'll be plenty of new things to see and say.

>>6309278
Going thru the faction files ive noticed there's a prostitute guild in the game. A few times ive tried speaking to one and they'd offer me a quest so i'd take it and do it (typical commoner quests) and she just kept giving me quests one after another. I later checked my charactors rep after doing like 25+ quests for her and had a max rep with the prositutes guild. Did nothing in game but all the chicks in taverns that were ladies of the night were always very happy to see my guy. Even got a few others to give me quests once it was built up. Ah alas so many unfinished features this game could have had

>>6312565
Ironic.

>>6310635
Daggerfall Unity

>>6310635
The one at the top of the screen on the USEP downloads page. Apply additional unofficial patches (on the same page, scroll down) as needed.

>>6314391
*UESP download page

>>6307513
>playing AI-generated games
Why?

>>6313523
>prostitute guild
I think they purposefully kept that one out of the final version. Moral brigading wasn't invented circa 2015, it existed back then as well (see the Mortal Kombat controversy, or the one about blood&gore in early 3DFPS like Doom).
They probably didn't want the controversy, but didn't bother removing the code (maybe one of the programmers thought about sneaking in a 3rd party patch that would activate the entire asset branch or something).

>>6313490
Indeed, I'm pretty stoked for that.

>>6312251
Ok so running it at Max settings made it run.... Faster? I'm frankly at a loss for words

I know it's technically not daggerfall or /be/ but who hyped for wayward realms

>>6315990
/vr/*** fucking phone posting trash...

>>6307573
RAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWRRRR
Combine that with more than 1 and wow. Now have that noise in the background when you're exploring a random dungeon room. Truly high horror, Thief has nothing on Daggerfall.
Loved the game, was the last TES game I played because I never had a computer growing up.

>>6309285
I was hoping Soule got metooed so they would be forced to bring back Heberling and his glorious midi work even though I know that would literally never happen.
Arena and Daggerfall had the best soundtrack.
Oversnow is the greatest piece in any video game ever.

>>6315947
Lots of games do this as of the late naughties. Apparently, going under a setting threshold quietly disables hardware rendering and enables software rendering, which takes all the load off the gpu and puts it on the cpu. Ergo, looks like shit and runs like shit to boot.

I'm honestly skeptical about how DFU is gonna turn out. One of the main reasons being it's on Unity.

>>6317178
You should dig into OpenMW!