/vr/ - Retro Games

>>6306681
>Chaingun Cannon: Kinda sucks. 3 barrels would seem good but they don't stagger enemies enough
This annoys me, Assault Troopers just shrug it off and fire back without difficulty.
>Lazer Tripbomb: Worthless 99.9% of the time
Fucking agreed.
>Freezethrower: I feel like it could have been useful but why use it when the Shrinker exists?
I found myself using this weapon mostly to save ammo from others.

>use a mod that patches up a bunch issues these games have
>they're were actually the perfect 3D move fro sonic
>retards including SEGA themselves where just too blinded by its issues to realize this

>>6306698
based zoomer.

>>6306724
>>6306726
adventurebabs glow in the dark

Yeah, there were other bad Sonic games before those bad Adventure games.

>>6306698
>Gameplay is hit or miss (excellent Sonic and Shadow segments, decent to good Knuckles and Rouge segments, and almost consistently not fun Tails and Eggman segments)
>Music is full of lame samey guitar riffs, a departure from Adventure 1's jazzy rock and the Genesis series' music rooted in 80s and 90s pop music
>Story feels like it's trying to hard to be dark with a literal child being gunned down by the military
>Continues with SA1's shitty redesigns of the characters
SA1 at least feels like it takes place in the same world as S3&K, it has its "edgy" moments but overall doesn't stray far from what the series was already established to be. SA2 was just a really odd direction for the series to go and introduced a lot of things that cemented the post-Genesis series as being something wholly different from what existed prior. And yeah, like >>6306867 said, while I hold a soft spot for games like 3D Blast and Chaotix there's no defending shit like Labyrinth and Blast

>>6306698
I don't agree with neither. Sonic & Knuckles was the last good Sonic game.
Zoom Zoom.

>>6306980
>Music is full of lame samey guitar riffs, a departure from Adventure 1's jazzy rock and the Genesis series' music rooted in 80s and 90s pop music

Really gonna ignore Rouge's 60s bossa nova, Knuckle rap songs, and Shadows techno DnB music just to make a LE BUTTROCK XD meme post.

>>6306698
>game is called Sonic Adventure 2
>Can't play as Sonic for more than a minute at a time
I've been lied to.

>>6307005
I'm not saying there aren't good songs but when over 50% of the soundtrack is the shit you hear in Sonic, Tails, and Eggman's levels, I can't call that soundtrack good. Crush 40 really isn't that good either, Jun Senoe can do much better without those vocals

>>6307024
>I'm not saying there aren't good songs but when over 50% of the soundtrack is the shit you hear in Sonic, Tails, and Eggman's levels, I can't call that soundtrack good. Crush 40 really isn't that good either, Jun Senoe can do much better without those vocals
you have absolutely no taste in music
kill yourself. picrel, this is you.

>>6307036
Imagine getting this angry over a buttrock soundtrack in a children's game

Eggman's level are actually fun and well designed desu, why do they get lumped with the shitty and rushed Tails ones?

The answer is neither

>last good Sonic game
We got Colors, Generations, and Mania eventually
>first bad Sonic game
3D blast

>>6307050
The shooting stages are even worse than the treasure hunting ones. They were so slow and boring

>>6306980
The shooting gameplay was fine, dude. They weren't my favorite segments either but they were still a good time.

>>6307161
>implying the treasure hunting stages are bad

>>6307132
>boostshit

>>6306698
Sonic 3D blast & Sonic Spinball weren’t bad just not up to par with the mainline games like 1,2,3K. But Sonic R was actually pretty bad. Also Sonic Adventure wasn’t that bad, it was fun to use the games physics to do stuff the devs didn’t intend, the problem with Sonic Adventure 2 was the devs had accounted for that stuff and made more linear levels. What I really don’t like are the current on rail roller coaster sim Sonic 3D games.

>>6306980
>almost consistently not fun Tails and Eggman segments
how are they not fun?
because you're slow?
>Music is full of lame samey guitar riffs
this is just something that's not to your taste, not inherently bad
>Story feels like it's trying to hard to be dark
what does that even mean? just because it tackles serious themes, suddenly it's tryhard?
>Continues with SA1's shitty redesigns of the characters
if you have a problem with Sonic's shoes then something's wrong with you

>>6307050
Because they hate the gameplay regardless of the level design. I've never seen anyone describe why though other than it's not sanic speed.

>>6307251
>What I really don’t like are the current on rail roller coaster sim Sonic 3D games
boostshit?

>>6306698
Sonic 2 on Genesis was the last good Sonic game

>>6306698
Anyy reasons why 3d sonics are hated?

>>6308187
Because they play like shit and don't look or sound as good as Sonic 2 or 1

>>6308197
Nah it justs people being not muh autistic.

>>6306698
>The First Bad Sonic Game
>Forgets about Sonic 3D Blast
t.Virgin Zoomer

>>6306698
>Geek Critique
I like his content but stopped caring about him when he went all in on Patreon exclusivity and have to wait months to see already completed videos

everything went downhill with Sonic 3

>>6306698
You're right, OP. The first bad Sonic game was actually pic related.

>>6308139
yes

Death Sonetic when

admit it, none of you ever actually beat sonic spinball

>>6306698
Its "the only good sonic game"

>>6308187
Regarding mainline titles, after Sonic Adventure 2 they never quite got the physics and/or core gameplay down correctly again. That's the first and foremost reason.

>>6308197
>Sonic 1
>good

>>6307234
They're just Gamma's SA1 stages if they were slower and made you have to constantly stand still

>>6308131
>how are they not fun?
slow and tedious, horribly different from the rest of the game's physics based fun and the shooting itself is monotonous, the levels aren't horribly replayable like the others either
>this is just something that's not to your taste, not inherently bad
fair enough
>what does that even mean? just because it tackles serious themes, suddenly it's tryhard?
child murder and a terrorist plot aren't really synonymous with "serious themes" when the main character is Sonic the Hedgehog, whose previous games were all wildly different in tone, imagine if there was a mickey mouse movie where goofy got gunned down and donald tried to kill the human race in revenge (which is why I hate kingdom hearts but that's irrelevant)
>if you have a problem with Sonic's shoes then something's wrong with you
pic related, the point wasn't the shoes at all and this is an issue I have with ever Sonic game from Adventure onwards

>>6309895
>having a problem with Sonic's "redesign", even though there isn't that much of a difference.
KWAB

>>6306698
It's a bad sonic game for sure but not the first bad sonic game. Sonic 2 GG is the first bad sonic game.