/vr/ - Retro Games

>>6284268
>Are there other games that "work" but have glitches?
Yes. When this thing came out practically nothing worked 'flawlessly' but I think they've been patching things away little by little and it's better now. Go by posts on the forums rather than the website since they'll have more honestly, it's definitely not the flashcart standard you'd expect but it works in a pretty hacky way so it's a given.

I never bothered updating my firmware so it might be fixed, but if you play a lot of multi disc games, having to restart when you change might be annoying. I don't care, but some people did.

Is there a reason why these games in particular won't work?

>>6284268
If there anyone who still believes a word that comes out of this totally disgraced fools mouth?

>>6284670
What's the issue? I was looking to pick one up.

I've heard that when they release updates to fix compatibility issues, the updates frequently break games that worked previously.

who cares about how many games boot when 99% of the library only "partially works"

>>6284268
This shit was a scam from day fucking one. Built off stolen code. https://web.archive.org/web/20190410040010/https://tsumi.wordpress.com/2012/11/24/brief-update-on-a-notorious-scammer-taking-over-the-psx-scene/

>>6284967
>Fuck off Gemini. Last time I heard, psiOS was open source. So what you gonna’ do about it faggot?
I don't know he sounds pretty based to me.

>>6284498
Restart? You just pop the sd card out briefly and reinsert and it automatically switches disks.

>>6284673
Look harder. The issue(s) will become very visible.

>>6284268

Never got mine, they said they'd send me another but now they're just not even answering anymore.
been almost six months now.

>>6284992
lol love it

>>6284503
vic ribbon because of a special way it's using the cd, iirc

>>6284839
>believe me, bro.

>>6285478
maybe they added you to their public scammer-list lol.

>>6284268
Bought one when they first came out and can confirm, it's a piece of fucking shit. The thought process behind updates/fixes makes little sense and they're constantly fixing 1 thing then breaking 3 more.

Anyone even remotely interested in this thing...there's still good CDR stock out there to find (not gonna start a brand pref bitch fest), grab a hundred pack and a Mayumi mod chip and save yourself like 60-70 bucks and have something that fucking works. Don't give these kangaroo fuckers any of your money.

>>6287019
The only hope is for someone new to enter the scene with a drive replacement mod like the Saturn and Dreamcast have, following PSIO's development was a fun trainwreck, everyone with any experience in the field knew his plug-and-play idea would never work and he just kept pushing through until he half-heartedly made it a hacky full mod at the last minute. While he's been deliberately obtuse about its awful compatibility since release, I can at least give him credit for TRYING to fix it, as you said though it's been stuck in a cycle of breaking shit forever. What's the point?

>>6285110
Are you speaking of the drm serial firmware shit?

>>6287348
I'm speaking of many things. Things someone looking to pick one up should be aware of.

>>6287901
Oh, you’re fucking retarded I see.

>>6287019
>>6287310
What bothers me the most is how limited it is with the PSX models, only compatible with the ones that have the serial port, otherwise if you have the regular gray one without it or a PSOne, you're fucked.
Also the whole concept behind it is retarded, "Have a little flashcart for your PSX that you can carry with you!" except you need to solder shit in order to make it work (which shows how under-developed this project really is), where at that point you might as well order a modchip and some blank CD-Rs, and call it a day.

Everytime I see a thread about the PSIO, I always read about how fucking awful they are, without anyone actually explaining what glitches they've encountered and what doesn't work.
Maybe it's because I haven't played tons of games on mine, but the only problem I ever faced was with Spyro 2. It would always freeze after a certain trigger. All I had to do was change something with the sound and it was all fixed.
If you have more examples, please let me know.

Fear Effect is unplayable after Disc 1 because you can't swap discs and there is no saving before disc swaping like most multi disc games when it comes to Fear Effect.

>>6284503
Vib Ribbon uses an audio CD to "create" the stages you play. Another game that may not work correctly is Monster Rancher, which gave you creatures based on which audio CD you put in the drive.

Jackie Chan seems to use some weird data-seeking method, it's notorious that it doesn't work correctly on a bunch of emulators. Even Sony's official emulator has slowdowns in it.

>>6287997
IIRC Vib Ribbon has its own default music so if that worked I'd count it as at least partially working.

If you think about it most CDDA audio games will just play/stop/etc. Vib Ribbon must also use the disc audio as data which is probably what's causing problems.

>>6286359
>>6287997
Thanks, wondered why those 2 in particular.
Re: Monster Rancher I know there is a ROM hack which replaces the CD-generated monsters with ones generated by the game time which I suppose would work fine.

>>6287909

>>6287968
I've had constant trouble with light gun not working. That was a big selling point from the beginning. It'll work no problem on the menu but once the game loads, problems.

Why would people go this route rather than just a far-cheaper, more reliable modchip? Is it purely because of the laser/not wanting to burn CDs?
I get softmodding consoles nowadays so they can remove it easily for online stuff but why a console with no such concerns?

>>6288160
>Is it purely because of the laser/not wanting to burn CDs?
Best I can figure. I remember back when this was first coming out, and I was asking why anyone would spend $200 on this when you could get a modchip and a stack of CD-Rs for less than $40. Every response was "I don't want to constantly have to change CDs" or "muh lazer dies every 3 months". I don't believe either complaint is legit, I still believe it was people shilling to try and make their purchase seem less stupid.

>>6288184
>I still believe it was people shilling to try and make their purchase seem less stupid.
Yeah, otherwise I can't see why you'd spend so much more for a so-obviously worse product.

>>6287310
My main gripe is the shady false promises and their piss poor attitude. When the SSDS3 first came out, it had a few major issues but the guys at Terraonion tried to make it right, sure they got uppity and had a shitty attitude but they ended up taking in feedback from the community and accepting help from guys like Voultar to fix the problems. It's really their callous, "you're gonna eat out shit sandwich and you're gonna like it mate" attitude and indifference that gets me.

Hopefully someone will show up on the scene with a competing product. I'd be down for something even like mnemo's 3DO FZ-10 mod that requires lifting and IC and soldering a ribbon cable to a dozen or so points if it actually works well and is solid.

>>6287938
>you're fucked.
no, you just have to connect it to the board directly. see pic, ezpz

>>6288810
>that mess of wires
This proves even more that either they should've made a proper cd tray emulator like with the dreamcast's GDEMU, or just straight up go for a regular modchip.

>>6288810

>>6288042
>IIRC Vib Ribbon has its own default music
Yeah, on an audio track of the CD.

>>6288810
0/troll. That's just the standard "plug and play" install.

>>6288810
Imagine being such a faggot that you wasted all that time to use a half working product.

>>6289626
Half working? Prove it. Give me an exact list of the 50% of games it doesn't work with. This needs to include name, release date and all the developers blood types and you must deliver it by hand to my parents basement. If you don't fulfill all my demands you are an ignorant liar who's just trolling and angry because you don't have one.

>>6284268
How is this shit any better than a modchip if it costs $200+ and requires soldering anyway?

>>6288846
>they should've made a proper cd tray emulator like with the dreamcast's GDEMU
Yeah I'd have thought that would be the way to go. Clearly there's a reason no-one's done it yet.

>>6288846
>cd tray emulator

It's obvious what he meant, don't get upset just because you wasted your money on a PoSIO.

>>6289803
don't have to burn discs but it reads games slower anyway so

>literally worse than an emulator
lmao
also not being able to play vib ribbon is a huge dealbreaker, one of the best games ever made

>>6285110
You dont know either huh?

>>6290404
not him but lmao it can't even play vib ribbon, you're better off using a 15 year old build of epsxe

>>6287938
Why would it bother you that something made for a specific port only works on that port? Seems like a low iq complaint

>>6290412
>if it cant play every game I shouldnt have to pay

The entitlement of incels is astounding

>>6290423
>if it can't play one of the only worthwhile games on the psx, the person who created it should kill themselves and stop replying to me
i'm not saying i shouldn't have to pay, i'm saying this turgid garbage should have never been pushed out of the asshole of whatever underage eastern european child sex abuse victim created it

>>6290423
>i should be allowed to run games from an ILLEGAL emulator box
>i should be allowed to PROFIT FROM CRIME
>i should have BOUGHT THE GAMES WHEN THEY WERE NEW
>now i CRY ABOUT COLLECTORS AND BUY OVERPRICED BROKEN HARDWARE
lmfao

>>6288160
>Why would people go this route rather than just a far-cheaper, more reliable modchip?
In my case, I had a lot of issues with getting games to run reliably without skipping. Even using TY old stock, Verbatim AZO, multiple CD burners, multiple speeds, replacing the laser, etc. I did basically all the shit you're supposed to do to get burned games to work and would regularly have issues.

This was suppose to be a good alternative, and I've been relatively happy with mine, but it's got a lot of problems that I'm hoping somebody else on the scene can fix at some point.

>>6290392
>it reads games slower

No it doesn't. Load times are faster.

>>6289626
>that you wasted all that time to use a half working product.
do a reverse-image search, honey

>>6290404
Stay mad. Stay ignorant.

>>6290423
>all that projecting
>all that irony
>all that cope
lol

>>6289796
It's a piece of shit that born broken and to fix that they released hundreds of hacks and it still not funcionate well.

I've owned one for about a year now. About 9/10 games I've thrown at it work well as they should. No FMV skipping or audio issues. The only games that didn't work for me were Chrono Cross and a couple of libcrypt games but I think there is a workaround to getting them working. Part of me thinks that all the negativity surrounding this thing stems from the insecurity of its detractors. Yes, we know that you can break out a solding iron and install a 8 wire modchip like that's anything other than babbies first modding job. You don't need to remind us on how capable you are.

>DURRRR WHY YOU GOTTA INSTALL THE SWITCHBOARD JUST PUT IN A MODCHIP AND BURN CDR'S
The switch board has the same amount of wires as the modchip. It's really not hard to install all. All the documentation is there. If you actually knew what you were talking about you'd realise that the switchboard has to be installed for a good reason. Sick of people bashing on this product and spreading lies.
TL;DR: Compatibility is fine and it's the switchboard is the same effort to install a modchip anyway.

Why would you pay so much more for what isn't even a softmod with broken functionality

>>6284268
Since I would have to solder shit anyway, should I shell out the cash for this thing and it's shitty closed source firmware or just modchip my fat PS2 and take the cdburner pill?

I'm ok with my hands but have never soldered anything, is it feasible if I use flux and a small tipped iron?
I know the PS2 isn't retro but this is the console in question. 3000x only develop issues with DVD and not CD/PS1 disks right?

>>6290940
people are telling you to use a modchip since it's the same amount of effort for a much better result lol

>>6290940
>chrono cross
lmao i played that on some shitty emulator on my windows xp machine in like 2004 and this thing can't run it? what is the fucking point

>>6291007
what um... what is that thing?

>>6291056

PS2 network adapter, its an official thing they made for.. Final Fantasy online or something.
but.. if you stick an IDE HDD in there (or you can buy an eSata version from china) (or use an IDE2CF or IDE2SD adapter) then you can put iso or bin/cue files on there and play them straight from the HDD as long as your system is modded in any way. (so either a modchip with burned disc or that thing where it boots from the memory card)

>>6291076
oh cool. I thought it was a special chip for PSX games. I have one with a 200gb IDE drive and FMCB

>>6291040
have fun with skipping fmv's and longer than normal load times, I guess
>>6291076
Don't let people like this tell you to play ps1 games using this method though. I can't believe some autists claim that running ps1 games from a shitty underdeveloped sony emulator in the ps2 is in anyway decent. Compatibility is even worse than an emulator from 2003 and has plenty of sound/video issues.

>>6291114
>Compatibility is even worse than an emulator from 2003 and has plenty of sound/video issues.
Are you the imbecile from the other thread? Any examples or sources? (other than https://web.archive.org/web/20100309031347/http://us.playstation.com/news/consumeralerts/softwaretitles_75001/index.htm))

>>6291135
Talking about POPS you idiot. Otherwise, if we were talking about using actual PS1 discs in a ps2, we wouldn't even be having this discussion, because the person asking would be actually playing the video game, instead of fucking around with a shitty emulator and archaic formats.

>>6291114
>Don't let people like this tell you to play ps1 games using this method though

I did what now? I just told him what it was. are.. are you okay anon? you seem angry.

>>6291256
It's the preferred method for playing ps2 games via OPL and a phat ps2, but using the pops method to play ps1 games is absolute dogshit, and I'm telling him to stay away from that unless he doesn't want to use an emulator on pc, doesn't care about acuracy or is extremely desperate.

>>6290902
Nah brah. You just have autistic definitions of terms like "plug and play", "no soldering", and "compatibility". You're just mad because you didn't preorder one and then spend 4 years waiting for something to arrive and the rest of time waiting for it to actually work. LMAO. You're so poor you can't even afford to spend $200 to wait 10 years to play a game.