/vr/ - Retro Games

>>6284924
World. Objectively, because I played it first.

world>64>1>3>2

>>6284924
3 is the definitive Mario game.

>>6284927
Eat lead flakes.

>>6284927
3 has great gameplay but the aesthetics and music are kind of bland. Even as a child I thought that after having played world.

>>6284931
I feel the opposite, SMB3 has great level design and aesthetics, but the gameplay in Mario games didn't achieve its peak until SMW.

How could you choose anything but 64?

>>6284937
It's great, I love it, but 2D feels better. It feels great for a 3D game, but 2D feels better even to this day.

>>6284931
I feel the exact opposite. 3 looks great in 8-bit while World looks awful in 16-bit.

>>6284927
No other discussion needed

>>6284940
>but 2D feels better even to this day.
How unless you have a bias for indie games already?

>>6284936
>>6284941
gotta admit world had the better music and sound design though

>>6284952
Most of it is shovelware hipster garbage, but some stuff like Blasphemous really shines through. No 3D game feels as good as the better 2D platformers. I grew up playing 2D, but I've never hated 3D or 3D games.

>>6284924
>leaving out 1, 2 and USA
>including Sunshine
Zoomer thread, hidden.

>>6284924
>sunshine
>/vr/

>>6284925
I feel this is the real rationale behind every SMWbaby's argument and you are only first one to be honest about it.

>>6284931
>music are kind of bland
What? SMW recycles the same melody over and over while SMB3 has six distinct stage tunes: underground, fortress, airship, underwater, and two overworld themes. Not until Yoshi's Island would Koji Kondo compose such a robust soundtrack for a Mario game.

>includes not-retro Mario
>doesn't include all /vr/ Marios

How the fuck am I supposed to vote Donkey Kong '94 this way?

Super Mario Brothers

>>6285031
/vr/ includes gamecube does it not? what non retro mario game are you referring to?

>>6285040
if you're not trolling, no, it doesn't. anything before dreamcast.

>>6284952
This is /vr/. On this board, AAA developers made 2D games. Indie is a phenomenon that almost exclusively happened on PC and starting during the PS3 era on consoles.

>>6285043
I’ve made a huge mistake....

>>6285072
I forgive you, anon. You had pure intentions.

>>6284924
Super Mario Bros. 1, or 2 (Japan)

>>6284924
1>2>3>64>World>USA

>>6284924
I voted SMB3. I would take 64 next over World for the novelty (and advancement) to 3D.

I feel that Super Mario World should be the best of the 2D platformers, but it doesn't hold up with me. The added features don't really push the skill and learning curve even when they're at their limit in the Star Road final stretch. Am I a faggot for wanting things utilitarian, when SMB3 introduced a flight mechanic with easy mastery and levels that challenged timing and navigation before SMW? Yeah, probably. The subjectivity lies in your preference for the feather or the leaf and how they feel to control.

I'll be more of a faggot and contrarian to say that Super Mario Bros. 2 (JP / Lost Levels) is underrated in the reason above of truly challenging players to their limit, within the coding limitations and feel of Super Mario Bros. But I acknowledge I'm wrong when such features as the purposeful warp pipes punishing you back to world sets is dumb. What I really like about the game is the idea that every trajectory of your move and jump within the levels is set up to fuck you over. That's funny to me, and in the end, it's still a wholesome and cute Mario game I like to imagine and daydream about.

Interested to hear your guys' thoughts about this. I never read any meaningful Mario level design and game-making discourse.

>>6285114
This. SMB2 was extremely challenging, but also extremely fun. I used to race this game with a friend for the sake of it, and it was a great time. Oh, and best /vr/ mario is 64

I can accept this

SM64 and World are peak retro Mario, cant really argue about it.

>>6284924

>sunshine

>>6284924
>https://www.strawpoll.me/19604741
why is super mario shitshine on there instead of super mario brothers 2. op is a zoomy trash faggot

DK '94 > all

Sunshine isn't really retro but if you think it's anything less than a flawed masterpiece you have shit taste.

>>6285361
>super mario brothers 2.
>brothers
I think you're probably even worse

Nostalgic thread... I love old school games, they just don't make 'em like this anymore

>>6285417
>2014: only games released prior to 1999 are considered retro on /vr/
>2020: RE4, released in 2005, is as old now as FFVIII was back then
>it's still not retro though
>neither is Sunshine which was released in 2002
>because you have autism and everyone else must cater to you
>and then you try to make a "clever" joke at the expense of OP despite the fact you are undeniably in the wrong
Got I hate this fucking board. It's no surprise even /v/ of all places has better retro game threads than here.

>>6285452
>click on thing that you know will make you mad
>ARGH I'M MAD NOW, THIS IS EVERYONE ELSE'S FAULT

>>6284925
I still like SMB1 best, can't help it

>>6285072
Don't worry, just think of it as being 5 years early when Gamecube inevitably is allowed on this board.

>>6285525
Better that the board be totally obliterated than 6th gen be allowed, hopefully 4chan will be long gone before such a humiliation is permitted

>>6285072
It's ok fren your motives were pure

How the fuck can people choose 3 over world? Ok minus the mechanics, the game simply looks a billion times better. Why choose 3

Sunshine > World > 64 > 3 > 2 > 1

>>6285568
>simply looks
not everyone is a queer that needs pretty shiny graphics to enjoy a game.

Super Mario Land 2 on GameBoy.

>>6285609
oh fuck off with your purity bullshit. Go play Pong while you’re at it

>>6284927
too many gimmicks. 1 is better

Super Mario 64
SM3
SMW
Mario Is Missing!
SMB
SMW2
SMB2 US
SML2
SML
SMB2 JP

>>6285023
>SMW recycles the same melody
Yeah we heard you the first hundred times retard, the tracks still sound extremely distinct from each other and to claim otherwise is being dishonest. 3 recycles 1's underground theme by the way.

>>6285802
Why are you randomly listing Mario games?

>>6285568
You sound like an All-Stars tard

>>6285407
This is true, but 64 happens to be a far greater masterpiece

>>6285612
You win the award for most disgusting post of the thread

Yoshi's Island
>>6284937
>anything but 64
Not with that dogshit camera
>b-b-but the time when it came out!
Nope, even by the late 90s you had platformers with better camera control.

>>6285787
>gimmicks bad
you're playing the wrong genre

>>6284959
The thing is that Blasphemous is ridiculously poorly designed and programmed platformer. Aesthetically great though.

>>6285407
I mean... it's okay. I wouldn't call it a masterpiece though.

Only acceptable choices are 3 or World. Everything else is objectively wrong.

>>6284924
>not including Super Mario Bros
>not including Mario Bros
>not including Super Mario Bros 2
>including Sunshine

>>6287004
Your definition of objectively is objectively wrong

>>6286197
>by the late 90s you had platformers with better camera control.
And uniformly worse everything that really matters

>>6285820
What the fuck are you talking about you, you mouthbreathing dipshit? Don't fucking call me a retard when I was the first fucking person to mention it. I'm not responsible for anyone else make the same common sense observation.
>the tracks still sound extremely distinct from each other and to claim otherwise is being dishonest
No shit, Sherlock. But anyone with a damn ear can hear that they're hearing the same melody every time. SMB3's score took effort and it's a verifiable fact that Kondo spent more time composing it than he did SMW. He's on record saying that composing a new overworld theme was a daunting task, but he fucking did it and made two of them. Whereas SMW's soundtrack took the easy route in every single way.

Legit question to everyone here; did Mario become popular because of the enemy designs? I'm having a feeling the real reason it did gangbusters was because it was bizzare; since no one saw an Italian plumber jumping on fucking turtles and small dick heads. What I'm saying is, would the series be as popular with regular mooks/humans to jump on rather than turtles? I think it's turtles that made Mario successful

>>6286831
>Blasphemous
>Aesthetically great
Looks gross to me

Where's the Chakan remake we deserve

I recognize 3 as the best designed game, but World is still the more fun one.

>>6286635
I like running and jumping. Not flipping cards and playing guess-the-box and choose-your-path, or navigating X scenario with choice of fifteen different special abilities.

>>6287174
He called you a retard for no other reason than to gloat while masturbating under his fat stomach after getting confirmation of butthurt. Sorry for you

>>6287660
i definitely think mario rpg is successful because of the enemy/boss designs