/vr/ - Retro Games

Pretty sure that won't plug into my NES or Vectrex

>>6280743
Nah

Prove me wrong

>>6280743

If by retro gaming you mean emulation, then the one you've posted or DS4 (I'm slightly more towards the symmetrical design, I own both and prefer DS4 but they perform similarly). Unless there is some third party adapter which allows to use XBone/DS4 controller with retro consoles.

Also Nintendo Switch Pro Controller is not bad, but feels more like a toy compared to DS4 and XBone pads.

>>6280758

You are right, but only for PC games (DOS and early Windows, some of newer Windows games, especially platformers are better with gamepads - try Claw for example).

>>6280743
I prefer the DS4 for retro because the D-Pad is in the upper position, which is more natural for games that use it and more authentic to the layout of the SNES and PS1 controllers. The XBone controller is pretty good too, though. As long as you're not using the awful X360 D-Pad, you're good.

>>6280758
No analog inputs.

There's no objectively best gamepad because some people have different preferences when it comes to the d-pad, the layout or even how the face buttons feel when pressed. However, these are the ones I would put above others:

-Xbox One/DS4 are good all rounders with fairly precise d-pads, although really only good with cardinal directions (xbone one is clicky, which can be good or bad depending on your preference, I like it that way)

-The 8bitdo M30 is a very basic mix between the sega genesis and the saturn model 2, works pretty good specially with fighting games and shoot em ups

-The original SNES pad I found to be specially good for 2D platformers

I've been using one of these for the longest time and it hasn't failed me (too hard) yet. At least 5 years of use and it's still very much usable. The switch on the back making it compatible with pretty much every game you throw at it is super neat as well.

>>6280743
Are there wired xbone controllers as well or just the detachable USB cable variant which is often too short and feels flimsy.

>>6280743
The one the developers originally intended you to use

>>6280748
>he plugs in his controllers
>he can't into adapters
>he thinks saying 'Vectrex' will stop anyone from laughing

DS4 has the best d-pad for a Windows controller, while also having decent analog sticks and good overall button placement.
>>6280804
>logitech
Garbage.

>>6280827
It's just a standard micro-USB cable. You can buy whatever length of cable you need.

>>6280834
DS3 still has better battery life.

>>6280845
Anything has better battery life than the DS4

>>6280845
>>6280848
That's a weird complaint. It has a battery life of about eight hours, and when I'm not using mine it's in the charging dock, so it's literally never run out on me.

>>6280850
For me it's about 6-7 hours, but it's a gamepad, not a handheld.

>>6280845
Good thing I use mine with a usb cable.

>>6280804
I liked that controller as a budget option, but I really wish there was a higher quality version of it. The triggers felt stiff and accidently dropping it completely caused my RT to go lose and break.
Shame since everything else like how it feels to hold and the buttons were pretty good.

>>6280895
Yeah my only real complaint about it is that the back triggers aren't molded very well and it digs into your finger when you press it for a long time. But aside from that it's a fantastic controller that I bought for literally 15 bucks.

>>6280834
>playstation
>good dpads
Recessed dpads are dogshit in my opinion, they don't always register diagonals and I feel I have to press them harder than normal

Name me a good 6 button controller. 4 button consoles are piss easy to find a controller with but that's just because that's the standard that survived. The second you wanna play some genesis or n64 games you have to do stupid nonsense to fit the control layout onto your 360 controller.

>>6280789
>No analog inputs.
>retro games
>analog
90% of the retro games don't use analogs anyway.

>>6281395
Nah, brah. You just don't understand. You have to have one and only one controller. You have to use it for everything. And it has to have every button, stick, pad, etc you might possibly need all taking up space in getting int he way. If you play PC games it has to have a mouse and keyboard as well.

My 8bitdo m30 just arrived and the pad is really comfy

>>6280743
The one you're most comfortable with. If you grew up with SNES, you're going to want something closer to that. Same for if you grew up with Sega, Playstation or whatever other console out there.

>>6280804
My man. People are way to hard on Logitech on this board.

>>6280804
I bought one at the time as well and... you're really not doing yourself any favors with it.
I mean, it works and you can (barely) get trough games on it, but there are better budget options out there, especially now.

>>6280743
RetroBit's/Sega Saturn controllers. They are the best for retro gaming.

U'n waiting for the new one with anlaogs from Retro Bit/Saturn.

Does anyone have one of these? How is it?

>>6281946
>waiting for the new one with anlaogs from Retro Bit/Saturn.

This

>>6282085
Yes and not as comfy as the original SNES controller.

>>6280743
The 6 Button RetroBit Sega Saturn USB controller, since I mainly use it for PC games, MAME, Genesis &Saturn emulation. I also use the Playstation USB controller for SNES, NES and PS1 emulation. For N64 emulation, I use my USB Xbox Duke Controller.

>>6282085
>let's just copy the snes controller
>but with dual sticks
>and handles
Why does this exist when we already have xbox/playstation controllers?

>>6280743
I do use the xbone controller, but that's because it works out of the box and pre-configures for everything super easily. The D-pad is kinda shit though so it's basically only good for emulating PS1 games and later.

>>6280743
sega saturn

>>6280850
This. What functioning adult plays more than 8 hours of video games a day?

>>6281362
I have a knockoff saturn controller that's good but for the life of me I don't know where it is.

>>6282240
Ain't got much better to do right now.

>>6280743
I prefer to use the official controller that was released for that system.

>>6282205
Concave buttons and SNES-like dpad. Also its 40 bucks whereas the PS4 and xbone controllers are around 60 if you go wireless.

>>6282240
The kinds who are quarantined or their job closed for the month.

>>6280743
For 2D games? Pic related.

>>6280743
Fag box.

>>6282205
Lets see:
1. Better dpad, by a wide margin
2. L/R 1+2 is better
8bitdo wouldn't even exist as a brand if modern controllers where slightly better. But it also comes with multiplatform support, which is a huge selling point.

>>6282674
>8bitdo wouldn't even exist as a brand if modern children where slightly better
FYFTK

>>6282636
based

>>6280743
I don't think there's one that will optimally cover all types of games. For most games it's going to be whatever is most comfortable for your hands, but for old fighting games you'll want an excellent d-pad with 3 button x 2 rows layout and non-'handlebar' ergonomics (I use a saturn pad replica).

I am curious to know if any of you conoisseurs have found one with an especially great d-pad?

>>6280804
Yeah, I use a rumble pad 2... Very solid and comfortable for long gaming sessions.

>>6281262
Agreed.

>>6280834
Its fine sonybro

>>6280743
If it doesn't follow apart or suddenly developer analog stick issues- then yeah sure its fine.

I've gone through 4 or 5 of these controllers, I'm done buying them.

>>6282240
Why would you have to charge your controller even 3 times a week? I barely remember to charge anything else I have. My electric shaver, my mouse. The batteries on my xbone pad. The DS4 is not a fucking 3DS. The meme sensors, touchpad and lightbar are not necessary for most games.

>>6282190
Man that sucks. I love my SNES pad for most 2D games (except fighting games) more than anything else, but the lack of controls for a bit more modern games (even PS1) and the absurdly long cable ain't that pleasant. Wish I had the skill to mod it.

This mammer jammer

>>6283107
Legitimately amazing controller

>>6283107
Why did clicky sticks / micro switches never catch on?

>>6280804
>switch at the back
Holy fuck, I've owned mine for almost a decade and never noticed that.

>>6281946
I do kind of wish they would make some controllers that are inspired by the Saturn 3D Pad, but I am curious to see how the dual analog stick ones would feel to hold.

>>6283309
It switches between XInput and DInput on the fly. So you can use it to play PC games released after and before 2005 with one controller.

>>6280804
>At least 5 years of use and it's still very much usable.
Sounds about time for the shitty floaty dpad to stop registering directions.
>>6281848
>People are way to hard on Logitech on this board.
Cause it's trash. Not even the best budget option anymore.

>>6282240
>>6280850
it averaged 4-6 hours which is fucking pathetic since it has a 1000mah battery.
The switch joycons have 525mah batteries and last 20 hours each.
The XBO and Switch pro controllers last 30 and 40 hours.
And the steam controller lasts 80 hours.

It's fucking ridiculous that you have to live in a world where you charge your controller after every session instead of just every few weeks.
And you think that's normal.
And you bought a charge dock, which is probably why Sony made the battery life shit in the first place.
To sell retards charge docks.

>>6283352
Dunno what you're on about. I've really liked the D-Pad the whole time I've used it.

>>6283365
Man, I pop two 2100mah batteries on the xbone controller and sure it takes quite a few hours to recharge them but they take so long to run out I almost forget this shit is wireless.

>>6283365
That's probably because it's the only controller you use and don't play much vidya to begin with. F310s do stop registering inputs at some point.

>>6283107
This is basically the perfect physical design. I wish these were common and cheap so I could gut them and stick my universal wireless shit inside. I'd be happy with just the shells.

>>6281262
>they don't always register diagonals
I've never had this issue with the DS4. I've also seen this complaint with every gamepad in existence that isn't a genesis/saturn pad. Unless you're using cheap third party trash, it's probably just a git gud issue.
>and I feel I have to press them harder than normal
I suspect you've never actually used a DS4, they're reasonably soft, and like all membrane based dpads, soften with wear.

>>6283267
Because microswitches are basically the most expensive option for a controller's imput. You save that shit for the heavy-wear arcade machines and high end pro shit. If they put microswitches in like a Switch Joycon they'd probably try selling them for like another 30 extra dollars.

>>6283450
Microswitches don't feel good on tiny buttons you're actuating with your thumb, and the noise is distracting. They make sense in a loud arcade environment where you're hammering the buttons.

What's the single-best sort of D-pad design?
I ask because they seem to be the single biggest sticking point on /vr/ when it comes to controllers but it generally seems that people are vague and just say 'shit d-pad'.

>>6283473
Puck makes the most sense, everything else is merely okay.

>>6283364
>Playing laggy wireless shit

I thought this was the retro board

>>6283483
The kind of guy using wireless controllers probably isn't the kind of guy who is even aware of input lag beyond a vague concept.
>I thought this was the retro board
The amount of "people" I've seen posting screenshots of emulators running on their phones with a touch overlay, or shilling those fake chinese soc handhelds on this board has me convinced that if you took 10 random posters, at least half couldn't tell the difference between ~3ms and ~80ms.

>>6283483
the DS4 has the same latency over its USB connector as over BT anyway

>>6280743
I use a white xbone controller because I like the clicky d-pad.

>>6280743

I'm currently emulating on my PS2 so I'm using a DS2 controller. Works pretty well, got rubber covers on the sticks for extra grip.

>>6283479
Absolutely this. Range and precision in one package. Except no substitutes.

Wii U pro is pretty good.