/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[3-14] Part 3 of the Eviction episode for Blood released
https://www.moddb.com/mods/eviction-addon-for-blood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCqVc2wdfUw

[3-13] New episode of expansive Duke 3D mod Alien Armageddon released
https://www.moddb.com/mods/duke-nukem-alien-armageddon/downloads/alien-armageddon-31-space-gladiators

[3-13] Doom 4 Vanilla 2.5.9 has been released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/108725-doom-4-vanilla-v259-new-version/?page=24&tab=comments#comment-2093390

[3-13] DoomFrag has been released
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZUm00JDxoo

[3-10] Doom 64's port will include a new episode
https://www.usgamer.net/articles/exclusive-doom-64-devs-reveal-the-port-will-include-a-brand-new-chapter?

[3-10] MetaDoom v666 "Titan" released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1141138#p1141138

[3-8] StickGuy In DooM updated
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=66877

[3-8] Doom 2 map "Ground Zero" updated
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=67175

[3-4] Quake 2 singleplayer map "Outer outer base" released
https://twitter.com/Colonthreee/status/1234615435779301382

[3-4] New trailer for Blood mod Eviction: The Hive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0qcmqzSnQo

[3-4] Colourful hell brown beta #4 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=47980&p=1140216#p1140216

[3-1] Wolfenstein 3D Retold First Preview
https://youtu.be/EvH_2fMTTFI

[3-1] Nobody Told Me About id updated to v0.2
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=67319&sid=6866a7303fceaa0cd0c4dc2c9f2d0316&start=150#p1139967

[3-1] the QC model rips were updated
https://knockout.chat/thread/9182

[3-1] DOOM console ports are on sale till March 2nd
https://twitter.com/bethesda/status/1232796951030136832?s=19

[2-26] WRATH: Aeon of Ruin - Content Update #1 Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNkcAWN6LOA&feature=emb_title

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Is Apocryph worth $3?

>>6268725
Nothing is worth money.

>>6268739
Even your butthole?

>>6268692
> ninja shotgun
i still don't understand why did whoever wrote that call it that

>>6268692

Quick, everyone stop what you're doing and name your favorite megawad.

>>6268778
BTSX e1
t.unashamed pleb

>>6268778
plutonia

>>6268778
Winter's Fury

>>6268778
Alfonzone, breaking up all those maps into smaller episodic chunks was a big brain play and I want to see more megawads do it.

>>6268778
Epic
>great level design
>interesting aesthetics
>good difficulty ramp with challenging but not absurdly punishing combat

>>6268778
Noye

Got a zscripted message log for pickup messages and whatever now

>>6268796
nice

>>6268692
Remember that Samsara mod?

Well, this is a thing. They all have bot files:

B. J. BLAZKOWICZ
http://pastebin.com/UgTS15aZ

FRED CHEXTER
http://pastebin.com/9wyytQNV

CORVUS
http://pastebin.com/npUHhuPH

DOOMGUY
http://pastebin.com/0Ncp3EKY

DUKE NUKEM
http://pastebin.com/JasgFgts
(HOLY FUCKING SHIT THAT ONE'S HUGE)

PARIAS
http://pastebin.com/jQLYrv9c

RANGER
http://pastebin.com/EUxDwE4p

SECURITY OFFICER
http://pastebin.com/MehjTkWe

What do you think?

>>6268778
UAC Ultra

>>6268826
well doesn't that feature look familiar :^)

>>6268836
the person who sent it to me didn't say who made it :P
even the "_m" didn't ring a bell at first

>>6268843
stuff happens lol, looking good either way

>>6268847
got a stretch goal if implementing a Tribes-style VGS system and integrating it with that for MP. Will probably need to generate a soundboard

>>6268692
>ninja shotgun
WHO WROTE THIS

>>6268778
Bloodstain, I love the aesthetics and atmosphere, I love the music, I love the challenge, and I already employ cover tactics frequently, so the gameplay was pretty natural to me.

>>6268778
Hard choice. Probably Vile Flesh.

>>6268798
>>6268796
Winter's Fury has 12 levels and Epic has 5 levels. They aren't megawads

>>6268885
(I asked the question) I guess we can extend it to anything multi-level, i guess the term megawad is too specific for what i was curious about.

>>6268826
bubbly health

>>6268826
that healthbar loooks great! Why is it green though? is he poisoned?

>>6268885
I meant Epic 2

>>6268959
They're shittu bubbles atm. Will work on/get help with making them better.

>>6268964
It's uh, nano something something aka health goop I suppose? Health goop is always green. Red was more distracting and blue just looks like cartoon water. I just now decided that the sprite replacements for health pickups will have green goop somehow.

>>6268778
Doom 2 reloaded

>>6268778
The Ultimate Doom II

>>6268692
haha, just like the streamer. How did they know???

>>6269028
Ninja "Tyler Blevins" Fortnite was born in 1990, so the journalist who wrote the article decided to give a shout out to the up-and-coming eSports star

I missed playing the build engine games growing up so I am only now going back to play them.
Duke was pretty fun, Shadow Warrior was fun but also frustrating. Playing Blood now, it isn't as hard as people make it out to be. Then again, I'm playing on Lightly Broiled so that might factor into it, I'm not playing Well Done until I beat the game at least once.
Tommy Gun Cultists can suck a dick though.

im trying to play nblood using whole unit blood files but the game doesn't start. all the necessary files are in the same folder as nblood.exe
what am i doing wrong? no crashes or anything, the game simply doesn't start

https://twitter.com/KinoFabino/status/1239663797981372418?s=19

I spent all day grinding trying to complete E1 on Nightmare in Chocolate Doom, and now Crispy Doom looks like PrBoom+

I actually got to E1M8 hours ago and killed the Barons but I accidentally pressed Q before reaching the level exit, ending my run, and I haven't been able to get there again since
>mfw

>>6268778
i prefer smaller wads desu but i have a soft spot for TVR! since i played it a lot back in the day
for general map sets my current favorite is chainworm kommando because i fucking love detailed sector art and it plays well with the kind of gameplay wads i enjoy, along with it just generally being a trip to play

I can't tell if Doom64 Ex is running at the correct speed because it feels slow

>>6269078
you sure you have nblood in the same directory as the .rff and .art files?

>Why yes, Half Life and it's mods is my favourite retro fps, how could you tell?

>>6268826
what mod is this?

>>6269131
"Doomshock", an attempt at a system shock 1 inspired gameplay mod where everything is weird and fucked. Released an old version a few years ago that was ultra jank. Now working on a second release.

https://twitter.com/Bridgeburner4/status/1239617662927261699

>>6268692
Doom 2 but you fight Terminators and assaultrons trying to remove humanity.

I LIVE...
AGAIN!

>>6269152
The model/animation is very nice but its way too smooth compared to Doom's stock enemies. Hopefully they plan to reduce it to just the keyframes.

>>6268778
Sunnder

>>6269158
Rampancy?

We cooking boys.
It's going to be Tex-less episode tho
I thrust that you are not going to die on me or something before this is out alright.

>>6268778
ancient ayys

>>6268832
>What do you think?
That I wish Kinsie would update it, even though I understand the problems he has with the spaghetti code.

>>6269203
i feel like samsara needs a reboot
keep the same gameplay and assets but the code is built on a different base

>>6269205
Imagine a Zscript Samsara.

>>6269205
>>6269207
you know what would be the tits
if Ranger and Unreal chick have actual 3D models like that Unreal mod or Lambda
yeah also throw Gordon in there

>>6269187

>>6269187
MOAR AND FASTER

WHAT are the BEST WAD COMBINATIONS?

go

>>6268832
What's a samsara mod?

>>6269235
Diabolus Ex goes so well with tons of stuff but Hideous Destructor is a standout.

>>6268692
Posting this for absolutely no reason.

>>6268778
Probably Ancient Aliens

>>6269235
Honestly, Community Chest wads go great with Colorful Doom and LegenDoom.

Pic is Hellbound, but still.

>>6269267
NOBODY MESSES WITH MY MEAT

Damn, Nuclear Winter's spritework is ugly.

>>6269310
Just about everything about Nuclear Winter is an ugly hackjob. It's hard to believe that the same company also produced Life's A Beach, it's like night and day. Have to assume they're different dev teams.

>>6269083
why is this so fucking funny

>>6269267
I can't believe Dogmeat is fucking dead

>>6268692
what are some good wads fellas?

>>6269347
UAC Military Nightmare

For give me for I have sinned and pre-ordered.
I will now go to hell for sure.

>>6269235
colorful + sunder + russian overkill
what a fun time

>>6269347
UAC Labs
A Gamarra tribute: Gamarra's destiny
Doomguy's Warzone
Doomguy's Warzone All Stars!
30,000 Levels
Wow
NUTS
Hell Revealed 1943

>>6269446
This reminds me, is Doom Eternal stuff going to get shot down on sight like with Doom 2016 for the sake of not being retro? If it's the case then it might be worth putting a note in the news post or something.

>>6268778

Ayy lmao

>>6268778
scythe 2
epic 2

>>6269446
>NOOOO! YOU CAN'T POST ABOUT ETERNAL, THAT'S NOT RETROOOO! DELETED!

>>6269235
First off, the "So you wanna play doom?" video in the OP goes over most of my favorites coincidentally. Seems like the guy who made that video has similar taste to me.

high noon drifter with epic 2
project MSX with UAC Ultra
Naku Naru with 100 Sector
Trailblazer with deus vult 2

>>6268692
That’s no Ninja Shotgun, this is.

>>6269463
It most likely will
Discussion of non-retro sequels in this general is tolerated as long as it's kept to a minimum
People are absolutely going to be filling the thread with discussion of Eternal which will make it the main topic, and add to this the /v/ soijak posters like >>6269482 along with general shitposting, the mods/jannies will surely be removing everything related to it until it dies down in a few months

>>6269482
>MY SOUL REMAINS GUARDED! YOU CA-

>>6269492
All the more reason this general needs to be moved from /vr/ to /vg/.

picked up the steel boots

>>6269516
No.

Are there any Deus Ex-y WADS?

>>6269452

Holy Based!

>>6269532

Diabolus Ex

>>6269187
Oh damn, this is unexpected. If you need anything like info or anything like that, lemme know

>>6269516
These threads wouldn’t last on /vg/ at all, they’re much too slow to keep up with the sea of FOTM multiplayer games and gachashit and Senran Kagura Thread #4936
Besides, the new games don’t have any modding capability, so after everyone completes the campaign and gets bored of Battlemode then there isn’t much else to talk about besides the mediocre lore
Also, moving this general to /vg/ would ensure that no new blood appears, which would basically guarantee the place becomes a circlejerk of the same few posters

>>6269235
HND and Strange Aeons

>>6269235

ltg + colorful + ldl

>>6269187
context?

>>6269563
Looks like he's making a more indepth video on GMOTA, like he's done for Hideous Destructor.
This is going to be a little awkward when I go back and update Kustam a little.

>>6269565
But who's "he"?
You speak as if "he" is universally known
Sory I'm not up to date on current ecelebs

>>6269572
Nah, not an e-celeb, I'm taking a shot in the dark here and guessing it's the good lad who made the SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME DOOM!? Video and the Hideous Destructor one.

https://youtu.be/ietb4JwaaXA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP7vjidDu3E
Did you guys manage to grab Sharpshooter 3D before it was removed from steam?

It's like the good cousin of Grezzo 2.

Reminder that in this game you KICK LENIN'S CORPSE

>>6269572
>ecelebs
Don't toss that word at everything.

>>6269584
I am still not sure if this was even real, but I am impossibly grateful to own it on my steam account. I think THIS was technically the last sold game made on the doom engine.
It feels like something you'd have in a dream about russian gutterpunks making a melee focused doom mod that they send sold for money as a retail game


eat shit strife!

>>6269592
This feels like I'm in a fever dream

>>6269595
>>6269584
can you upload it somewhere

>>6269596
I'll try. I still have the files.
It is a genuine crime that Grezzo 2 is freely available but Sharpshooter 3D is not.

>>6269596
Uploading it to my google drive as doomworld would be a bit much. I genuinely do think everyone deserves to experience Grezzo 2, especially among the doom community.

>>6269596
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1peucX8RJj6WdEfa3iZPrH-F1deHFmiwT
Sending this personally. Spread this around at least on here every thread or so. This game deserves to be remembered, especially with that ending.

>>6269516
>wanting a discord tranny circlejerk
no thanks, I like anonymity

>>6269235
i've been throwing some maps at D4V trying to get some semblance of a "DOOM4". In the end i've just went with TNT and it's pretty kino so far.
The summoner is 10/10 fun to fight. Would like to do plutonia next with a big mashup of monsters but idk if that's possible. Going to look at metadoom and see what's what.

>>6269592
>I think THIS was technically the last sold game made on the doom engine.
Do you count Hedon?

>>6269627
Is it possible to mix a D4V texture set and enemies with a different D4 mod that offer more gameplay oomph?

>>6268778
I have hard time deciding between Valiant and Eviternity. Both them felt like complete new (retro) Doom games.

>>6269235
I remember one of my best experiences with Doom being Eviternity + Argent by Xaser.

>>6269207
Wasn't half of the point of Samsara being a mutiplayer mod? zscript would make that part more difficult.

>>6269612
This is some premium trash if ever saw any.

>>6269078
The game also needs voxel files to run iirc. It doesn't pop up an error message nor are you ever told this, most likely because nBlood is a buggy mess

>>6269619
Anon, but you're technically still anonymous in every social media as long as you don't disclose any personal info.

>>6269632
Not conveniently.

>>6269708
yeah well look at /vg/ and tell me it works in practice. IRC faggotry always existed but discord turned it up to 11. Most generals don't even make sense unless you're in the clique.

quick i need some monster mods, what are your favourites?

>>6269463
100% yes. It already is to an extent if it starts taking over a thread. I imagine two years or so from now people will be able to talk about it a little bit, like how mods cooled on 2016 (though primarily when it was being discussed in comparison to the classics) after the hype died down and people stopped flooding the threads with it.

>>6268697
SiN has apparently been removed from Steam. I'd assume it's still on GOG.

>>6269539
my only issue would be getting a feel for Kustam since I haven't spent much time playing him compared to Blaz and Slayer, I know how he is supposed to be played but I still get rekt often, it's a bit hard to get used to his attack speed right after playing the other two

I'll make sure to tell people that is still a work in progress, Samsom when

>>6269572
Not a celeb by any stretch, I just make video guides like the ones in the OP and sporadically guest edit for a bigger channel named BlackPantsLegion on YT

In this case Tex has given me carte blanche to shill GMOTA on his channel, we are not super chums or anything but he is a cool guy like that

>>6269170
I was wondering how weird will it look if you use 3D model for enemies instead of sprites, but animation is only limited to keyframes?

Apparently Doom64 dropped early on PS4

>>6269612
Thanks anon

I reuploaded it on Mediafire anon.
www.mediafire.com/file/j7xnko9h429l7o1/SharpShooter3D.zip/file

test

>>6269743
Did it work?

Can any programmer/mapper answer me this?

Why do all enemies in a map have to "exist" right from the start and if "created" are in truth teleported, why can't they be created on the spot?

>>6269745
Yes, I couldn't post on this board for some reason.

>>6269170
Its a TC, they're replacing every enemy, most with new frames

>>6269746
Because that's how the engine was made.

>>6269235
Final Coomer + Eviternity, each episode you select a different weapon set. Was a fun playthrough, except it turns out that choosing Vendetta set for Hell episode was a mistake, as it had trouble dealing with enemy hordes, due to the lack of proper rocket launcher and plasmagun.

>>6269738
Any chance we get the new Episode ported into Doom 64 EX so that people that don't have Windows 10 can play it?

>>6269757
I seriously doubt the Win10 thing is an actual requirement, Kaiser wouldn't allow it

>>6269584
Reminder that this game was made by Russian antifa.

What do you guys think of Doom RPG? I still love it, as well as Orcs & Elves.

>>6269746
That's not strictly true. You can spawn spawn/create any number of actors on the spot with scripting.

>>6269764
Ah interesting, is it heavier or lighter?

>>6269763
Are we talking about the phone game? I loved that, it was Doom, but in a way that you could play on a phone, with a new story and rpg elements, where finding secrets felt even more rewarding than the original because it all came to a common goal of becoming a stronger character.
>>6269764
thanks for the answer.

Am I really the only one who thinks Doom 64 looks kinda bad? There are so few enemies, the weapons look and sound disappointing. I don't understand the hype over it.

>>6269769
It should be lighter because the engine doesn't have to skip past them when doing various checks for rendering, collision, or generally finding the correct thinker or actor for some action. They won't be running sight or sound checks if they don't exist.

You should learn basic ACS (aka the scripting system that came with Hexen but is integrated to the Doom environment in some multi-iwad ports, and also heavily expanded in the ZDoom family of ports) if you want to experiment with this.

Also, even in the base game actors can be created on the fly. Naturally every projectile is like that along with every inventory item dropped by a monster, but also monsters in the form of lost souls spawned by pain elementals. There was a hard coded limit on the number of spawned lost souls existing at the same time for performance reasons however.

>>6269770
Yeah, the mobile game.

>>6269731
Well I wouldn't call him a work in progress, he's just going to get a few changes in the coming update, like no rapid jabs, removing the double tap rapid shot thing in favor of another passive upgrade, tweaking the meditool, shit like that. I'll be starting on Samson and the last major update once I finish up this current Combined_Arms update.

>>6269787
I like the overall aesthetic and design of the maps, if it had better sprite animations and every enemy from Doom 2 was included, I'd probably ratebit as my favourite game.
Hopefully Kaisers opened up the engine a bit for the new version

>>6269815
That's fair. I'll wait until I play it to pass final judgement, but based on the footages I have checked, it looks like a really late and worse version of Doom 1-2. It has a bootleg feel to it that I can't explain.

Some anon used to develop a gameplay mod which added mechanics from Souls games to Doom. Did that ever get finished?

>>6269791
>>6269796

>>6269787
>the weapons look and sound disappointing
I can agree only with the regard to the shotgun sound but they were considered the "Upgrade" taken from the PS1 port, and they do sound meatier and less fuzzy electronics late 80s sound.
But well I guess is hard to argue when is a matter of

>>6269763
Reminds me of Legend of Grimrock because I don't play many of those, I guess the "nowadays" Doom's alternative would be Doom roguelike, shame about it being abandoned because copyright eh, wankers, and no source code, I wish the traits and levels could be edited, some of the things feel like they narrow the playstyle a bit too much, like you either need to survive for a long time or pray that your skills and the weapons you find align.

What's the most impressive Doom port? For me its the GBA port.

here's your Ninja Shotgun, bro

>>6269947
I still love how that shotgun looks It just needs a more sensible and ergonomic grip

>>6269826
it's abandoned

>>6269947
*breaks your wrist*

>>6269947
Sup

>>6269954
Also not having unnecessary weight covering the barrels.

>>6269753
I did pretty much the same thing, except I chose the Ancient Aliens set. Worked like a charm, as long as you can get enough cells for the alien plasma rifle.

I can't see Cyberdemon rockets on Chocolate Doom :( I spent two hours grinding trying to record a single-segment run of E2 on Nightmare, I finally get to the Cyberdemon, and I ate two rockets before I could finish the fight
>mfw

>>6269987
Alien plasma rifle is fucking horde eraser, I don't know how I would've survived without it in Ayy Lmaos, and it definitely would've been a lifesaver in the last level of Hell episode, but I didn't used AA weapon set in Eviternity because I wanted to focus on the sets I haven't used a lot, such as TNT and Vendetta.

>>6269556
>HND
Whats HND?

>>6270006
High Noon Drifter

>>6269984
But it looks cool.

>>6269203
I meant "What do you think of the voice lines?"

>>6270015
I suppose it does as long as you don't think too much about it.

I wish to one-up Hideous Destructor and make a mod where you use flintlock weapons with realistic reload times.

>>6270045
That would be okay as long as the damage is played with full realism and you had a sweet bayonet to stab anyone who wants to interrupt your reload times.

eternal has cutscenes

>>6270053
As long as they're skippable and you don't get "characters walk while talking as you steer them slightly" moments, I'll be fine with it.

I just learned there is a -gameversion command on Chocolate/Crispy Doom:
>-gameversion (version)
>Emulate a specific version of Doom. Valid values are "1.666", "1.7", "1.8", "1.9", "ultimate", "final", "final2", "hacx" and "chex".
which corresponds to PrBoom's -complevels 1-4:
>1 Doom v1.666
>2 Doom v1.9
>3 Ultimate Doom
4> Final Doom & Doom95

I noticed Chocolate/Crispy has two different -gameversions for Final Doom, and PrBoom only has one -complevel for it; I wonder what the differences are, though it doesn't matter since I will probably never record demos for Final Doom.

>>6270058
you can skip them

so, the only .wad i've really played is Sunder
if I want more of the same, what .wads should I look at?

>>6270053
i don't mind as long as they're interesting and i can skip them if i play through it again. (like >>6270064 said)

>>6270053
that's much better than the "immersive" Half Life style where you get locked into a room for 3 minutes

>>6270068
I'd go with deus vult 2

>>6269703
I fucking love this mod. Sadly, there's a glitch that keeps me from progressing

https://youtu.be/0lkVn6pJLwA

>>6270076
rent free

Doom ruined gaming
https://www.salon.com/2003/05/05/doom_2/
Games like Rainbow Six, Deus Ex and Half Life save it.

>>6270126
>dude sex
>saving gaming
good game as ti is, it's not nearly as influencial as you'd like to believe - it inspired next to no games outside of its own series

>>6270113

>>6270113
Wait, but it is that edgy guy Doomslayer who got hooked up with alcoholic dog, why does Doomguy has to suffer from it?

Can Quake 1.5 be played on Quakespasm? It says it's meant to be played on Darkplaces, but DP gives me trouble

What happened?

>>6270239
you left the door to the pain dimension open again

I hope Kaiser's new Doom 64 episode will be as good as Sigil or NRFTL.

>PC crashes AFTER I save the project and close Vegas
>reboot
>open the project
>I'ts corrupted
>oh fuck fuck fuckity fuck
>open Vegas normally
>it actually saved it

I'm still relieved, but what?
If you are thinking about starting that Doom channel consider using something that is not Vegas.

>>6270274
I've never played doom 64 before, so im pretty excited to get the chance soon (Just never got around to it with a source port) Ive watched some footage and the only thing that im not liking so far is the lack of animation on the guns, specifically the super shotgun. Looks weird to have it sit still instead of the old satisfying jankey shell reload from 2.

>>6270274
Have you tried out the levels he's made in the past for/in the style of Doom 64?

Valiant is goddamn cool and everyone should play it.

t. person playing it for the first time. Just beat Candlecove (MAP10) last night.

>>6270320
Don't know about EX but Retribution includes reload animations. SSG included.
https://youtu.be/Lw54Cg8ihwY?t=1322
I came to prefer the 64 sprites over everything else.

>>6270307
Just do backups.

What. WHAT? I always thought that imp has brown skin and his spikes are bone! Oh my god, my entire life was a lie, I am having identity crisis right now.

Is there a way to use the weapons from MM8BD on regular WADs? I like the concept but I don't care about multiplayer, with bots or people.

>>6270345
yeah thankfully I have several copies most of the time , mostly because I change one thing and keep a side save in case I change my mind later on

>>6269595
>>6269612
>>6269703
anyone know why setting this to render in opengl removes the colors? been spoiled by years of gzdoom and i can't go back to the software warping

>>6270360
Maybe his bones are metal
Are Imps the precursor to Lucario?

>>6269763
I'm currently playing Orcs and Elves, it's fun. I'm not really a fan of dungeon crawlers, but after a while I got used to it so yeah.

>>6270360
>Imps were furries all along

>>6269787
Most Doom 2 enemies are included in 64. Ultimate Doom has way fewer enemies but people still jizz their pants over how great it is.

>>6270053
they're skippable

>>6270389
>HDoom is officially a furshit

>>6269463

hopefully, the second doom 2016 was introduced doomworld forums experienced the biggest influx of retards i've ever seen all at once. eternal is going to be even worse

it's not hl1 fault about doom 3, 2016 and eternal being shit.

>>6269764
Basic Doom engine can't do it, but eventually it was invented. Not entirely sure on what game, Hexen probably. If you are going for fully authentic doom experience, closets it is.

>>6270420
In case of Doom 3, I would say it's a Half-Life fault, as Doom 3 is its direct rip-off. Now NuDoom, this one I blame only on Bethesda marketing department wanting to capitalize Sergeant Puke fanboys.

>>6270428
Hexen most probably, it was the first Doom-engine game with a scripting language included. It even had a code for repopulating maps when you revisit them.

Remember when this was locked behind a parental lock in 1996? Now you can see stuff like this on youtube. I wonder what will be deemed appropriate in 25 years?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2JFMLtjb9U

>>6270436
generations, political landscapes and cultural sensitivities change all the time

this is completely normal

>>6270436
>I wonder what will be deemed appropriate in 25 years?
Burqas.

>>6270446
>>>/pol/

what's missing?

>>6270461
Shame.

>>6270461
Your selfie with mouth wide open.

>>6270467

>>6270468
wait what the fuck
are you emilia clarkman
this is sooo epic

>>6270307
could always try to get vegas pro 14 when it goes on sale, that happens pretty often on the humble bundle thing.
or just pirate it

>>6270492
Yeah, I should pirate one of the later ones, my money is worth peanuts and I'm not paying a monthly fee for the newest one.

>>6270496
I use vegas 14 for all of my shit, subscription based programs are fuckin stupid.

>>6270461
a gf

>>6268692
How do I mod these voices lines in Quake 3?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYVWRjvjCgM

HALF LIFE
HALF LIFE
HALF LIFE
HALF LIFE
HALF LIFE
HALF LIFE
HALF LIFE
STAY MAD JANNIES

>>6268692

What is the best program to record video of me playing Crispy Doom? I tried googling, but it's mostly some unusable crap.

I want to record me playing through my own level so people would laugh at me.

>>6270538
Try OBS Studio

Using ZDL, how do you start on the menu and not immediately in a map?

>>6270519
Get on my level, you pussy, I just got two warnings at once! Go on, janny-boi, you can ban me altogether, it will take me whopping five seconds to reset my router!

>>6270461
>improve the combat loop by revamping most of the weapons and mods
>touch up the enemies to make them tougher
>generally change the game so as to make it less braindead and easy compared to 2016

>keep the reload cancelling DPS exploit

>>6270534
>The toilet paper

>>6270534
Is this the one that was removed from doomworld?
Man, I just love how replayable doom is. Never gets old, just grab a new wad and play.

>>6270542
Just don't choose a map. Keep both map and skill at default.

>>6270542
What does the picture mean?

>>6270558
oh dammit, I didn't realize specifying a difficulty would fuck it up
thank you very much
>>6270560
d'sparil is aroused it seems much to his displeasure

>>6270560
It's a monster from Heretic mixed with a meme. D'Spairil is the main Heretic baddie and this is "Disciple of D'Spairil"

He actually done did it, he went and banned me.

>>6270534
Got a link? If it's banned I want to have a copy of it.

>>6270562
No problem
>>6270562
>>6270565
Thanks for explaining. I didn't get to play it yet.

>>6269947
Disgusting

>>6270563
>>6270568
Shit, I missed.

>>6270513

>>6270461
Your selfie with mouth wide open.

H E
D O E S
I T
F O R
R
E
E

>>6270461
Your selfie with mouth wide open.

>>6268778
Going Down

>>6270461
Your selfie with mouth wide open.

>>6268778
TnT

>>6270461
Your selfie with mouth wide open.

New bloodborne mod gameplay:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J_EXdkMsak

Well played, janitor-boy. Well played.

>>6269947
Serious Sam 2 shotgun

Where can I get a good Crash skin? Looking for crash only gives up reports of game crashing.

Is there a form of lite gameplay for Hideous destructor?

How can I fuck around with the beta builds of Doom? I got downloads off the doom wiki but I can't actually run the exe's because I assume they were supposed to run through dosbox or something?

>>6270657
Why aren't you using DosBox in the first place anyway?

>>6270662
I'm not a boomer I use prboom+ to play. Might've misunderstood your question though.

>>6270534
>Knee Deep in COVID19 mod on ZDoom forums
>pansies begin to bitch that it’s insensitive because people are dying
>fag starts over analyzing it
>thread gets reported by admin asskisser

>same thread on Doomworld
>people give a chuckle and some feedback
>thread still up

>>6270678
zdf has a higher amount of children, furries, and trannies, of course they’d act retarded

>>6270551
I just saw it on doomworld and people didn't seem to care. It's zdoom forums that was triggered.

I heard Hugo say something called "grates"/ "crates" on the 3D engine they use for Doom 2020.
What is this about? I couldn't find something on Google and since you mod, you might know.

does anybody make skins anymore
just got curious about them in general just now and when I was done checking epidermis emporium, I thought to see what new stuff's been made and couldn't find anything recent at all.
guess nobody gives a hoot?

>>6270682
>>6270678
I am sitting on two almost finished gameplay mods and I am seriously considering publishing them exclusively on Doomworld. All those DeviantArt-tier furry avatars and Rachael are destroying my motivation.

>>6270715
Might as well post them in both places and just ignore the one you hate.

Oh wow Sin wasn't just taken off the store on steam, its been removed from your steam library as well. They claim its coming back but still, its kinda scary they can do that.
>Pirate all old games, no remorse

>>6270729
Recent development that puzzles me is purge of Dagestan Technologies (though they haven't removed games from libraries). Problem is, Dagestan actually had it coming, being a shady Russian company shitting Steam up with hentai 15-puzzles and le ebin maymay navalny simulators, but they also dragged some actual games down with them. I am particularly curious about Dungeons of Kremlin Remastered, which looked not half bad, considering it was a remaster of crappy FPS game from 1995.

whats the best source port for online multiplayer? group of friends want to co-op the commercial games while we wait for this corona shit to blow over

>>6270767
"Zandronum is the worst source port for multiplayer, except for all the others" - Winston S. Churchill.

>>6270636
for q3?
https://ws.q3df.org/models/?model=crash&view=3

>>6270729
>its been removed from your steam library as well
is this the first time that's happened? completely insane that people use steam when they can literally take away shit you've paid for
also, why sin? you can still buy it on gog

Doom 64's Hell executes its direction well with a great atmosphere and level design, but it does suffer from its own limited direction, after the previous games having a more versatile (Even if it looks random) Hell that looked more unique and couldn't be replicated by anyone else besides id themselves.
The fact that the fusion of flesh and metal fits with cybernetic demons makes me wish 64's Hell would take more elements from old school Inferno.
Maybe 64's Hell succeeds on looking more like Hell, but while the classic 1/2 Hell felt more unique (Even if its levels weren't as good), it's the one that had to come from id themselves.
If classic Doom had the aesthetic of 64, i couldn't see people making more maps or mods, when Doom's setting being a weird mix of ideas is something that makes it fun to make content for.
Like, the existence of a lion stone face literally inspired that Realm667 lion Baron enemy.

>>6270775
It usually happens either due to copyright problems, or because it's a defunct MMO.

>>6270783
>replicated
More like "created", is what i meant.

>>6270775
>why sin?
NightDive were fucking around and accidentally took it off the store for a while.

>>6270715
If all it takes for you to falter is some shitty avatars and one shitty person with a bad attitude then you probably don't have much confidence in your own work.

>>6270802
Fooken volvo is gonna take away our games, I tell ya!

>>6270774
No I'm looking for a Classic Doom skin, thanks though.

>>6270810
I have exactly zero confidence in my work.

>>6270829
Change that then. You have the ability to make shit, and you should show some pride in your work if it's made with sincerity.

>>6270826
Skulltag comes with a selection of new player sprites, I think there’s a Crash inspired one

>>6270837
Problem with one of the mods is that I am sitting on it for a year or so, it was supposed to be the first working iteration without the main killer feature implemented, so right now it's just nothing more than a mediocre weapon replacement at best, and I have no intention of finishing it because I changed my entire paradigm since then. The second one is just a joke wad I bashed together in a hour, and I'm not going to make it my debut.

>>6270858
Then I say either release the mod as it is, or it's time to tear shit down and rebuild it. That second option sucks and I've felt that sting several times with my own work, I still push forward because I want to finish shit.

>>6270783
64 originally planned to have different versions of hell based on various real-world mythologies. There was a screenshot published in a magazine of a hellish Aztec-style pyramid.

>>6270858
nobody gives a shit about your "reputation"

>>6270881
Obv he does.

What causes my text to be jammed together like this?

How can I fix it?

PSX Doom was the first real game I played growing up, I'm giving TC Doom a shot and I noticed the Pain Elementals in the secret areas of the first and fourth level aren't there, is that just a thing with the mod??

>>6270906
fix text scaling in HUD options

More people should play Descent

https://www.gog.com/partner/stay_at_home
Shadow Warrior Classic Complete is free to keep. Few other games.

>>6270887
Obviously I do.

>>6271001
Think it's often free on there but still that's a nice gesture

>>6270941
I think they only spawn on certain difficulties but I might be wrong

>>6269968
Probably not, though that grip looks pretty rough and uncomfortable, with highbrass slugs you might scratch up the palm of your hand.

>>6271001
I am starting to suspect that the whole coronavirus is a plot by digital distribution industry to bury retail and movie theaters once and for all.

>>6271010
i'm on hurt me plenty for a casual run, but I recall as a kid that even on I'm Too Young to Die they would be there if it was a secret area. This is the first one that I thought should spawn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3xqeiRN5mo=2:44s

>>6270237
I think it will support Quakespasm sometime in the future.

>>6269980
Those are far lower pressure and have far lower projectile weight. They blast some sort of rubber projectile, because it's hard to (legally) get a normal pistol in Russia and you're probably not allowed to use it defensively.
I understand they're not particularly effective, being nicknamed "Condom Blowers"

>>6270375
Russian engineering.

>>6270045
>>6270048

>>6270112
What's the bug? I beat the entire game.

>>6269761
And? It's russia dude. You really gonna say Antifa is the greater evil in russia?

>>6271039
>flintlocks are a type of ammo

>>6270389
Don't drink beer and use the medussa scroll.

>>6270624
Nice.

>>6269980
>>6271037
Tiz' actually one only two guns in grezzo 2 hence where I heard of

>>6271048
fuck I meant sharpshooter 3D i'm drunk for only guns in that

>>6271040
>Antifa is the greater evil in russia?
No, but they are still awful.

I really wish someone would give Quake 2 the Copper treatment.

>>6271000
gimme the lowdown, do people still play mp?

>>6271058
I don't understand this image at all

>>6270360
That could just be the interpretation of the author.

>>6270715
there's furries here too like the dudes who fetishize anthro daisy and that guy who keeps posting furry reaction images from what seems to be the same artist every time.

>>6270534
>sanitizer
>not soap
This shit always bothers me. It's a fucking virus, antibiot8c hand sanitizer won't do shit.

>>6271061
No one cares about Quake 2, not even id back when they were developing it, and yet it's my favorite installment in the series.

>>6271071
>expectations
>reality

>>6271071
How they see themselves vs. how they really are a.k.a. how the artist sees them

>>6271085
>No one cares about Quake 2, not even id back when they were developing it
I know it wasn't anywhere as good as the first Quake, but this revisionist history annoys me so much.

>>6268832
>Parias
>No Daedolon or Baratus
the fuck

>>6271093
> spoiler
aint that always just the damn truth

>>6269235
Heretical Doom and Doom 2.

So, anons, I want to get into the classic DOOMs, I've been DOOM 2016 on Nightmare difficulty, but the classic DOOMs have kinda disinterested me, it seems to burn me out pretty easily, but with that said, I assume GZDoom is the best source port as usual, but what about things in game like difficulty, are there any QQL wads? I've heard Smooth Doom is pretty good for the animations but not too sure if it'd be right for a first playthrough.

>>6271127
*beaten DOOM 2016 on Nightmare
apologises for my autismo spelling

>>6271120
Parias has some of their weapons in Samsara, and he has the best weapon in Hexen anyway.

>>6271123
>>6271093
It is pretty accurate in this case.

>>6271127
Read the infographic in the OP. Doom has very little in common with Doom16.

>>6271127
Chocolate Doom, UV, pistol start, no saves, Final Destination.

>>6270534
Is this seriously the thing that got taken down? Come the fuck on, this is the game where the counterargument to "IT HAS DEMONS OH NO" was "yes, and you're shooting the cunts dead". A game about killing the virus, even if tongue in cheek, is hardly offensive and could actually be quite cathartic to some people worrying about the whole thing.

>>6271081
Alcohol based sanitizer is suitable, though sanitizers in general don't work more than a couple of times before you need to actually wash your hands. Presumably because of residue or some shit like that, I dunno.

>>6271132
but its daedolon who has always had the arc of death
and its not even in samsara

>>6271042
Just do it like Hideous Destructor where you can carry multiples of one weapon in inventory. You start with a gun and a holster, then you can get one or two additional holsters for loaded guns, you can have more guns than that, but not in a holster ready to draw.
The best upgrade would be to get a brace with which you could carry an additional four loaded pistols.

These are flintlocks, so there'd be a noticeable pause between pulling the trigger and the gun firing, the reliability would also be a bit spotty, sometimes the hammer drops and you get nothing, so you have to cock the hammer and pull the trigger and try again. Blackpowder is dirty, so eventually you have to clean a gun to keep using it, though if you use smaller calibers of bullets you can load those in a dirty gun for a while and keep shooting some, until the gun gets just too dirty and you have no choice but to clean it.

Due to these realities, the mod would actually have to have a reasonable emphasis on melee combat, punching, kicking, flipping your pistol around and using it as a club (which is what people would do) bayonets on muskets, daggers and sabers, spears and pikes, axes.

>>6271040
In one of the levels, I spawn stuck in a door that kills me

>>6271085
I think Quake 2 could be pretty good with some small but key improvements. You know, the kind of stuff Copper did to Quake.

Stuff like:
>giving the machine gun first shot accuracy to make it still useful after getting
>making Tanks actually threatening by making them more aggresive or harder to stun
>Tank Commanders lead their rockets now, so they're no longer just a bullet spongier version of the regular Tanks
Stuff like that.

>>6271165
This sounds pretty fucking good, wish someone would actually go ahead and do it.

>>6271000
Correct, they should. Descent was great.
>>6271001
Coincidentally, the teaser (which is always free anyway) of Overload, that thing by the original Descent devs is in that GOG stay at home thing. Anyone who liked Descent should give it a go, it's fun.

>>6268832
>"Here we go again...and again...and again...and again..."
>"I just don't care anymore. Let's get it over with."
>"Stay down...please. For just a few more minutes..."
>"I don't take pleasure in this. This is just what I do."
>"I'm doomed to return. Mercy has abandoned me."
>"I'm not afraid of death. I welcome it. Shame that it doesn't last."
>"I've stared at death for so long I'd almost forgotten that it's a threat."
>"Retreat's never an option. Even when you want it to be."
>"You can't escape. But knowing you, you'll come running back anyway."
>"What's your purpose in life?"
>"I can deal with patrolling blind. I miss that sometimes."
>"Life goes on. Death goes on longer."
>"I hope you're not cozy. We don't do comfortable here."
>"This temporary reprieve is just that. Temporary."
>"Do you think I'm having fun with this?"
>"The exit kills me if I hit it, right?"
>"It's funny. The arena's paths goes up, down, left, right, all sorts of ways...except out."
>"If I see an accessible terminal around here, I dunno if I'm gonna be grateful or start screaming."
>"I fear eternity more than I fear you."
>"Maybe now, there'll finally be some rest. Ah, who am I kidding?"
>"Weigh carefully your victory. There's always a string attached to it. Trust me."
>"The end."

Well, fuck. Now I'm depressed

>>6271184
Also add muzzleflashes.

>>6271186
It'd be neat to see, right? I don't have the skill or drive to do something like that, so I'm going to pretend I'm not lazy or incompetent by just saying that anyone who reads it is free to use the concept.

There should also be some crossbows and some limited throwing weapons.

>>6271165
>Due to these realities, the mod would actually have to have a reasonable emphasis on melee combat
Damn, never thought it from that perspective. I know that melee combat can be fun in Doom, as demonstrated by Action Doom 2, GMOTA and Final Doomer, can the flintlock gameplay be made fun as well? Maybe not go with full blown realism, but make the reload slow enough (and interruptible by damage) so the guns will be used either for picking off distant targets or for a short burst of damage in close combat before switching to melee. It would obviously work better in Heretic and especially Hexen levels, as they focus more on short-range encounters.

>>6271215
I mean it depends on what kind of realism you want, I'm not the one making it, I'm just vomiting up ideas based on what I know of the stuff. You would probably also modify the enemies to give at least some of them similar restrictions, and 1700s hats.

The Cyberdemon could be changed so he has like cannon on his arm (the peg leg can probably be borrowed from Pirate Doom), he loads a fistful of blackpowder and then a fistful of grapeshot into it (so he's a little less dependent on having to clean), and then he uses a ripcord to set it off. That way, he can occasionally fire off a giant shotgun salvo at you, though he would have a big sword to use in melee.

Also, a big thing that would have to be implemented is the "Fog Of War", blackpowder guns spit out a lot of smoke, which takes a little while to dissipate, and if a lot of guns fire off in one area, it would start getting hard to see for a while, the enemies should be coded to have to contend with this too.
For a dramatic example, a slaughtermap would quickly be enveloped in fog, which would probably make it unplayable due to all the big transparent sprites lingering and constantly generating throughout the gunbattles, driving GzDoom to a crawl.

>>6271213
How hard is adding muzzle flashes to Q2 that nobody has done it yet?

>>6271197
>You will never save Security Officer from his pain
>You will never give him back the life that was taken from him

Why live, boys

>>6271247
The base engine doesn't support it, and you couldn't really add them to the models themselves like you could with Half-Life.
A good sourceport should be able to allow it with a simple workaround though.

>>6269916

>>6271043
Yeah I know, I found out after doing it by accident. Btw, is the Dragon Armor worth it? What about the blue sword? (don't remember its name). I'm currently at the Forge dungeon so I don't have the money to buy any of those things, but maybe in the future I could farm gold to buy better stuff.

>>6269086
I did it! I finally managed to complete a single-segment demo of Doom Episode 1 Nightmare on Chocolate Doom!
> https://youtu.be/8RMmCU2LSdc

>>6271254
Could a port like Yamagi achieve that?

>>6271067
I dunno my man, I'm just saying in general. I feel the game has been forgotten, even if there were some attempts to revive the genre, Descent Underground itself being in development hell.

>GZDoom don't use 100% of my system
>stutters like crazy
is there a fix for this shit?

what the FUCK am I supposed to do now?
earlier parts weren't nearly this bad

>>6271313
What maps are you playing?

>>6271320
mostly pirate doom, but even vanilla doom1 stutter sometimes.

>>6271292
I genuinely don't recall. It's been a long fucking time since I played Orcs & Elves, although I've played most of those games since then aside from DoomRPG 2 and Orcs & Elves 2.

Orcs & Elves 1 got a DS port with 3D models and uh... it's one of the worst buys I've gotten on DS. I paid $20 for it and I beat it in a day.

>>6270360
source?

>>6271325
gzdoom loves to stutter for me when I am watching a video or stream. are you doing that?

>>6271329
Masters of Doom.

>>6271325
speaking of pirate doom what is a good mapset to play it with?

>>6271316
nvm I fixed it

>>6271332
oh shit, closing chrome improved a lot, but my cpu still don't hit 100%, I think it's because it detects my stock speed at 3,2ghz but I have 4ghz overclock. usage keeps hovering around 75%

>>6271335
It's a total conversion, it has its own maps, and they are VERY good and fun, I'm having a blast even though some parts are running at 15 fps.

>>6271342
pirate doom has a option to run the original doom 2 maps though. it doesn't replace any levels just adds new ones.

>>6268778
BTSX E2: Tower in the Fountain of Sparks

>>6271286
That port is honestly some McGuyver tier shit. Carmack himself dismissed the notion of putting Doom on the SNES, but Randy Linden showed that it could actually be done.

CIVVIE STOP USING THE FUCKIN BFG LIKE A ROCKET LAUNCHER

>>6268778
Going Down
Ancient Ayys
Plutonia Revisited
Any gimmick collaborative megawad like the 1024 ones or fifty shades of graytall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LYhDtrwo_E

>>6271417
Is it not?

>>6271127
>Classic Doom doesn't interest me but I want to get into it.

Dumb. If you want complete accuracy to the original Prboom+ is probably your best bet if you want modern resolutions. If you want fancy lighting shit fucks with GZDoom. The default settings and options menus of both sourceports are insanely retarded so enjoy that. Turn off texture filtering, make your sector light mode look proper, turn off mouse accel, and turn on always run.

>>6271428
https://youtu.be/_0KBAZkPFmI

Watch this classic by Terminus, nigga

>>6271436
tl;dr it's a massive shotgun with a large rocket projectile that does more damage with it's invisible shotgun blast than the actual blast of it. The shotgun blast goes off during the third frame of the explosion, so it's delayed slightly.
Also RNG in the damage of the ball which is less reliable.

>>6271417
Don't worry, he's a pro gamer who knows a lot about Doom (he knows all the secrets!)

>>6271458
I love you civivie but you can't be doing this shit

It triggers me erytime

>>6271452
It's even more complex than that because the targeting for the additional zaps will depend on the distance between you and the impact of the ball and a lot of other shit. Seriously look at the video in full, a tl;dr like that doesn't give you a real idea about how it performs.

>>6271452
The ball itself is nothing like a rocket, it has no splash damage in itself.

>>6271458
I hate to say it but Civie doesn't do anything that a walkthrough doesn't.

>>6271127
If you do end up using GZDoom, one QOL mod I'd recommend is Precise Crosshair. You SHOULD be playing with no vertical mouse look and have auto aim on, this mod would help you know when your auto aim has actually locked onto an enemy above or below you, so you don't waste ammo or shoot a rocket into the stairs right infront of you.
Not sure if any other sourceports have an option like this.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=64788

>>6271495
Crispy Doom actually has this built-in.

The virgin Civvie
The chad Decino

I feel like Civvie doesn't really put forward any pretensions of being really good at or analytical of Doom or games in general. He's more trying to be entertaining with his personality and reactions in my eyes. His content is aight from that perspective.

thanks to the dude that shared this, ugly as fuck but fun to play throughout

>>6271417
Civvie is a casual shitter, like all gaming toobers
Non-casual players don't make reviews since they have games to play and dont want to waste dozens of hours on making a 10 min video when they could spend that time playing good games.

>>6271553
That's a silly take.

>>6271556
Name one reviewer that isn't a casual shitter then

>>6271553
I don't really care about all that, honestly. He's fun to watch for the most part

>>6271553
>Non-casual players don't make reviews since they have games to play and dont want to waste dozens of hours on making a 10 min video when they could spend that time playing good games.
What an absolute non-sequitur.

>>6271553
Anybody ever tell you you're an idiot?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqduGTChT5U

just gonna leave this here guys

>>6271553
Try writing your thoughts on games out sometime, it's fun, informative, and helps you organize your thoughts for discussions.

>>6271572

damn 2020 retro games look good.

>>6271568
>>6271569


>>6271559

>>6271553
wow, a real epic gamer, in the flesh...
can i have your autograph?

>>6271572
too bad its short as fuck even with all the padding

>>6270634
why do you remember that piece of shit

Where could I find the newest version of Doom Complete with all the iwads plus sigil and whatever

>>6271591
Check the MEGA links in the OP.

Has anyone ever tried playing Serious Sam 1st and 2nd encounter with a 10-20% speedhack enabled? The game's encounter design looks kinda cool, but the environments being so big means the glacial movement speed always bothered me.

>>6271607
Oh, I misremembered and thought that one was incomplete, sorry. Thanks a lot

>>6271609
I don't remember first encounter, but second encounter you get the speed boost on most encounters that really need it.

>>6270360
IIRC, imps were also mentioned to have fur in one of the Doom manuals. That or it was the strategy guide. I can't recall off the top of my head but they've always been furry to my knowledge.
I bet they smell like burnt hair and shaggy dog.

>>6271609
that sounds like a neat idea
one of my biggest gripes with SS1 was how large and flat the levels were, so walking places felt like a chore

>>6271586
Exploration and traversal isn't padding. And I would surely take a short and sweet campaign over something that overstays its welcome like Doom 3 just to cite an example.

>>6271609
2nd encounter has a speed boost and at least the second game has the major mercy of implementing vehicles to make the maps feel less drawn out.

>>6271000
I tried to but the claustrophobic, labyrinth-like map design combined with the 6 DoF made it feel like my own personalised hell.
>>6271184
Quake 2's single player needs a Black Mesa styled overhaul in order to not be bland as fuck desu.

>>6271645
>Black Mesa styled overhaul
I can't get over how badly they fucked over the revolver in that. The shotgun is also an unreliable piece of shit half the time, partly thanks to everything moving in erratic stop-start patterns making for awkward combat, and the fact that a double barrel meatshot will sometimes gib a soldier, and other times lightly tickle his nuts.
Not to mention how much the camera loves to jostle about under heavy fire from the grunts, so it's impossible to have any degree of accuracy while fighting them with precision weapons.

>>6271572
I like that both him and gmanlives point out the level and encounter design being less restricted or predictable this time around. Seems to be the levels have more in the way of nonlinearity and exploration going on than before. The moment gmanlives compared most of them to Foundry from 2016 I was happy.

https://github.com/jewalky/UltimateDoomBuilder/issues/388

>>6271639
>Exploration and traversal isn't padding
i didn't say they were
there are other forms of it there

>>6271645
>Quake 2's single player needs a Black Mesa styled overhaul in order to not be bland as fuck desu.
Might be interesting. One of the things that severely limit Q2 in my opinion is how restricted the setting seems to be.

>>6271661
Such as?

>>6271662
>>6271645
BM keeps the structure and themes while giving detail and elaboration, and some times trimming stuff too.
Same treatment won't do much for Quake 2's lackluster campain.
What it needs is a total overhaul that incorporates new themes and types of environment, keeeping only the general idea. It probably may even be done on Q2 engine itself (or better yet on Q3 engine)

>>6271254
>you couldn't really add them to the models themselves like you could with Half-Life
Can't imagine why not. Dunno if it supports transparency, bit it doesn't really need to.

>>6271663
all the unnecessarily stacked RPG-like systems that feel like a poorly thrown together clusterfucky mod

>>6271254
can't you do some basic 3D geometry shit that's part of the gun animation the way Q1 does, but make it like a small cone with texture before the muzzle?

>>6271631
I just played around with it in the first couple levels, and I'm not familiar with Serious Sam and I was playing on Serious so take my limits with a grain of salt. I found it really fun on 1.4x speed, but close quarters fights might require 1.3x to be more fair. Everything higher made enemy movements too goofy for my tastes but I encourage you to play with it. This just made me reevaluate the game heavily.

>>6271675
You mean the one that remains unchanged from the previous game?

>>6271675
Do you know what padding even is

Fuck didn't mean to namefag.
>>6271672
>>6271653
>>6271662
Did Q4 add anything thematically that could could be pulled off in Q2? All I remember of Q4 is lots of brown, stroggification, that one mech section and an unstable framerate.

pr/glboom or crispy doom?

This is gonna sound like some zoomer fag stuff, I know. But after playing Skulltag/Zandy/GZDoom for so many years, and playing Chocolate for the first time, it's surprisingly pretty playable. The low detail adds to the horror a bit.

>>6271741
I'd play in crispy, I think.

>>6271741
Crispy Doom has more customization options, looks crispy, doesn't have filtering by default and doesn't have mouse stuttering on my computer.

Prboom+ only for Boom/MBF.

>>6271127
Gameplay mods with minor changes:

Smooth Doom/Beautiful Doom - These two mods attempt to improve Doom's visuals.
Dead Marine - Basically Smooth Doom but with changed/added sounds that make the game feel more atmospheric. One of my favourite vanilla-ish mods. (GZ 3.4.1)
Babel - Adds animation cancelling. Also has an optional monster pack. (GZ 3.4.1)

Other cool shit:

Sound Caulking - Adds and changes sounds to make monsters (and the pistol) more distinguishable. I prefer the version with PSX sounds.
Autoautosave - Saves for you under certain conditions, such as picking up a key.
Brightmaps Plus - Improves GZDoom's Brightmaps (how shit glows in the dark). Has a compatible version with Doom 2 Minor Sprite Fixing Project.
Doom 2 Minor Sprite Fixing Project - Basically fixes some odd sprite issues like medic packs being off centre, zombiemen missing a rotation and the Revanant's infamous floating pixel.
Sprite Shadows - Adds shadows to sprites. Get this from one of the megas.
Health Warning - Adds the Doom 2016 low health notification to Doom. Get this from one of the megas.

Most importantly, don't force yourself to play if you don't like it. They'res plently of other shit you can play such as Duke Nukem 3d, Blood and Quake 1 (Arcane Dimensions).

>>6271747
I'd replace the sound calking with Sound Bulb. Sound Bulb has much more accurate sounds than Caulking. I hear that the creator is gonna work on a high res version of the psx/64 sound set soon enough too

There's an entire board for video game general threads. Why not post a video game general thread there? >>>/vg/

>>6271745
>mouse stuttering
Thought I was the only one to get those random mouse jitters. Happens in both sourceports for me but it's way worse in PRB for whatever reason and it frameskips often.

>>6271767
how come we never thought of this before?

>>6271768
See if you have any Vsync options in driver/game
disable them
enable frame limit to your refresh rate or refresh rate x2

>>6271770
>>6271767
retro fps thread there dies off within few hours with next to no posts

>>6271768
I think Win10 just has shit mouse handling that way or at least so I heard.

>>6271767
Shit dude, it's been years now go find a goddamn hobby

>>6271778
I'm on 10 and have no such problem

>>6268778
BTSX E1
Requiem
Scythe

Damn this is good. Why the FUCK did I wait so long to play this. Really fun level design.