/vr/ - Retro Games

i like to play it when im not at 100% gamer-swag. ill jump over to doom when im not owning noobs in cod or fortnite with my bros like when its late at night

>>6263595
What you should say is, you don't like it much, which is fine. But to say it's not fun (at all) is to say that the millions of people who do actually enjoy this game are wrong, which makes zero logical sense.

>>6263605
My opinions are superior to other peoples'.

>>6263608
ok

>>6263595
Great game. Bring on Eternal.

>>6263595
yeah thats why 2 is better

>>6263595

>>6263595
Hard disagree.

I ended up appreciating it more as I got older. The pace of the action is very satisfying and completely alien compared to slow moving, narrative heavy shooters of the past 10 years.

DOOM is still the benchmark other action games should aspire to.

>>6263595
All phoneposters should be killed.

>>6263595
It's fun and good but a little overrated. People also latch onto it has some hardcore boomer experience for gamer cred which is cringey.

>>6263595
You felt this strongly about how not that fun it is to make a thread about it?

>>6263983
All people who complain about posting on phones should be killed.

>>6263983
Phoneposting should non-ironically be banned.

>>6263595
bruh you posted cringe

>>6263595
you must be a very boring person

>>6263632
i think im one of the few people who does not like 2. i grew up with that shit and something about doom 2 is off to me. it feels larger, slower, and more monotone than the pacing and intensity of the first one which reaches its peak in episode 3. and i always felt the super shotgun threw off a lot of balance to the weapons. its way too good up close and makes most of the arsenal feel pointless.

>>6263595
KDITD is good, everything else, including the entirety of 2, is objectively trash. DN3D did everything better.

>>6264512
episode 1 is probably the best paced of them all, yes, but i find 2 is more enjoyable than the last half of maps in doom 2. the levels just get way too big and expose the flaws of using key cards for level progression imo. shores of hell might drag for a bit, but the levels still feel focused to me.

>>6263605
The "to me" part is obviously implied, you absolute autist

>>6264540
You too. It's obviously for me and everyone in this thread

>>6264540
so why did you post this thread

>>6263595
Quality thread.

>>6263595
If that's your opinion, that's cool. I don't agree with it, though.

TNT or Plutonia?

>>6263595
Try the custom maps made by the community. They are better than the official ones.

>>6263983
>>6264337
Not phoneposter atm, but I sometimes post with my phone when I'm having more silent day at work to kill time.

...nvm most people here don't actually have a job.

>>6265830
WOW THIS MAN HAS A JOB
LOOK EVERYONE HE HAS A JOB

Been part of the Doom community for 4 years and eh, it's only still alive because of its ease of modding. The original levels were never that good, especially in Doom 2.
The original games aren't fun anymore. The user levels are.

>shoot thing
>find closed door
>explore
>find secret
>find key
>go to door
>shoot new thing
>repeat

I like it but why people call it "a fast paced, simple action game, perfect to boost your adrenaline" is beyond me, it's a lot closer to a dungeon crawler than to shit like Gunstar Heroes or Contra.

>>6263983
>>6264337
>gonna just head on home and boot up the old gaming rig to post on 4channel

lol, who cares, I just browse when I’m in transit or it’s slow at work

>>6267669
>>6265859

>>6264498
I am also not a big fan of DOOM II. It gets tedious 3/4rd through. And I guess I blame the map design. While the maps in DOOM 1 has this snap design to them and flew very well, DOOM II maps are overly gimmicky and tedious after a while. Also, fuck the Icon of Sin. What a dumb boss idea. It's only difficult because you can't look up.

>>6263983
OPs filename is not a phone camera roll filename moron. I know because I am OP and I'm shitposting from my computer :)

>>6267648
>I like it but why people call it "a fast paced, simple action game, perfect to boost your adrenaline" is beyond me, it's a lot closer to a dungeon crawler than to shit like Gunstar Heroes or Contra.

Yes, that's exactly what it is. It's a big dungeon maze game mostly. Later starting with 2 they start to go bigger more fast paced and more action. Then they keep doing that in expansions and fan packs.

From the old school shooters Blood is still king.

Doom was amazing, Doom 2 dropped the ball hard. For a sequel there was no improvements. Few new enemies (fuck the Pain Elemental) the SSG which was added just for balance and levels were inconsistent and dull as shit. The design of the first 1/3 was OK but then...

I mean, D1 did it well, space station looks like it should, so does hell and the in between base getting possessed. D2 failed at making anything look like anything and the key hunting was tedious. The levels that were gimmicky should have been put aside as an extra or some shit, but every level feels created by a different person with no idea on what he's doing.

Also everything looked brown, the enemies were too many at the time and made it unfair. Hit scanner chaingunners plus revenants and barons of hell? Hell of an idea of fun...

>>6267671
It's wild that you think posting on 4channel using a desktop is a point of pride worth arguing over

>>6267648
It's both. On your first playthrough it's more exploration and maze solving.

But it's a game people played the everloving fuck out of, both in singleplayer and deathmatch on regular levels which meant you'd know them backwards and forwards.
Once you're familiar with them it's a hundred times faster, you never slow down and instead juke everything, it's like a ballet with a shotgun. I totally get the Contra comparison.

>>6267646
Doom 1 rules the tech bases in e2 are all fun as hell

>>6267648
It's not nearly as fast-paced as people say. Enemies have slow, straight-line projectiles and are 90% cannon fodder.

Oh look, another contrarian thread on /vr/, how exciting.

>>6267749
I disagree.

>>6267749
aaaaaaaaaa stop having different opinions aaaaaaaaaaaa

>>6263595
Whatever, 98Demake

>DOOM 10/10
>DOOM 2 11/10
>FD 9/10
>DOOM 3 9/10
>DOOM 2016 1010
>DOOM ETERNAL N/A
>This game is not that fun :(
>Multiple threads a day reaching 500 replies
stay mad retro babby. im sure your atari st is calling you, if not the corona dumb boomer.

>>6263595
it was only fun with the cheats desu

>>6267976
Plutonia is 12/10 alone

>>6267976
Almost nobody plays Doom there, just mods that doesn't even resemble Doom in the slightest.

>>6264498
BFG when there is a boss (or an Arch-vile) with a few monsters around, Plasma gun when you are cornered or against a boss with no monsters left, Rocket Launcher when there is just a pack of slow monsters, Chaingun against zombies both close and far away, Shotgun against one Imp, Super Shotgun when you are not cornered against no more than three beefy monsters (Demons, Mancubi, Revenants, Hell Knights) or lots of Imps (even then, Rocket Launcher is more efficient here), Pistol when you need a sniper but does not have a Chaingun yet or to finish off a monster with low health, Chainsaw against a single Demon or Imp, Beserk can be used against Imps and Demons, Fist if you are suicidal.

>>6263605
>the millions of people who do actually enjoy this game
i think your numbers are a bit off, pal.
>>6263993
yeah, it's gotten ridiculous in the past few years.

>>6267748
so which single-player fps is faster-paced?

>>6268156
Quake

It's a lot of fun in short bursts but after an hour or two it gets boring for me.

>>6263686
This makes me feel like playing it again. Growing up I preferred Wolfenstein, I do think Doom has better visual design but the enemy placement felt very predictable to me, so Wolf felt a lot more intense. Probably been close to 10 years since I've played either

>>6267754

It's obvious one sentence bait with the first picture OP got when googling "Doom". He literately does nothing to say why he doesn't like it. Oh and you forgot to post your wojak.

i've been on this site for 5 years and i still have no idea why people hate phoneposting

Imagine wasting time playing vanilla Doom, and not custom maps.
Imagine not playing UV pistol starts.

>>6263595
DooD is fun.

>>6264512
nice bait lol

>>6270118
Imagine giving a shit
Imagine not IDDQD and going to town

>>6269880
It outs you as both a normalfag and a zoomer.
Boomer userbase has no cellphone or if they do they don't use it for posting since they're NEETs so they're never too far away from their desktops.

>>6269849
Except other people agree with the opinion.

Never got much enjoyment from the id classics except for Heretic.

>>6263595
And that's fine my friend, I respect your taste.

>>6267730
>From the old school shooters Blood is still king.
Nah

>>6263636
That's racist anon.

romero is streaming sigil on twitch right now

twitch /theromero

>>6268156
Painkiller, Shadow Warrior, Blood.

>>6267730
>Few new enemies
There were twice as many enemies and they're all more creative than doom 1's who are all either hitscanners or imps with varying stats. Hell Knight also helped balance the retardedly huge gap between the baron and the previous strongest enemy.
> and the key hunting was tedious.
There's nothing in doom 2 as tedious as doom 1 episode 3, to this day people still get lost in the samey copypasted areas in that episode like the one with the red key rooms in the middle of lava. there's also nothing lazier in any doom game than e2m9 or e3m9 which is just a copypasted e3m1 with a twist at the end.
>unfair
There's nothing in doom 2 as unfair as doom 1 episode 4.

Doom 2 is child's play in difficulty, no idea what are you talking about. Have you never played Plutonia? Or ANY of the endless megawads which dwarf plutonia in difficulty?

>>6270421
>It outs you as both a normalfag and a zoomer.
ah yes I forgot only zoomers use phones, it's not like all people of all ages use them, including boomers. my parents use them all the time.

also, shut in, people do go outside and can't be on a PC all the time, genius. sorry to burst your bubble but this site isn't your secret club where only NEETs exist. you only have to browse other boards like /int/, /soc/ or /sp/ for that.

>>6273027
>/int/
Full of redditors
>/soc/
Full of redditors
>/sp/
Full of redditors
None of those count.

>>6264498
Nah, the SSG makes everything better, it's a tier 1 weapon together with the Rocket Launcher, Plasma Rifle and BFG 9000.

Have to use the regular shotty or the chaingun against Pinkies, Cacos and Barons is no fun (since these enemies aren't difficult, but takes a lot to be killed).

With the SSG, Doom 1 monsters are not bullet-sponges anymore, improving the combat pace significantly.

>>6273027
I don't wanna read back on what you fags are arguing about but you're definitely outing yourself as a zoomer.
Yeah everybody has phones and some people go outside sometimes but out of those people, the only ones who feel compelled to make posts using said phones while outside are zoombinis. Millennials (a) actually appreciate the break from being on the internet all day since they aren't posting from a classroom--they'd rather soak up the ambience of the strip mall mcdonalds they're in--and (b) have used actual computers to post on 4chan at some point in their lives unlike yourself, so they have the contrast to know what unpleasant peasantry it is to phonepost, especially on slow boards that aren't going anywhere. Actual boomers, meanwhile, have too much arthritis.

I hope this has been educational. Take advantage of it with your youthful neuroplasticity.