/vr/ - Retro Games

You could go for records and master the scoring system. Some games are very rewarding in that regard, like Radiant Silvergun. Clearing is hard enough, but finding some other people for friendly competition to breathe some life into the games.

Also find ones with interesting mechanics. Mars Matrix and Battle Mania come to mind.

Get an arcade stick. It'll still be repetitive but it will temporarily not be stale.

>>6257145
back to your jarpigs tranny

>>6257213
I play both, but it's true jrpgs are way more fun and better made, lots more love goes into them. shmups seem like rushed projects and money grabs all they think about is quarter vs time-sink ratios. They don't respect the player.

>>6257213
>move left and right while spamming 1 button
>the deepest gameplay

>>6257264
deeper than spamming confirm on attack from a menu over and over

>>6257264
based

Its one of the most exciting genres around, are you sure youre not just salty because you cant git gud?

>>6257303
nope, the genre needs to get gud

>>6257243
They respect the players time more than any other game since they dont waste it with retarded cinemtatics or tutorials or whatever the hell. On top of that they dont treat the player like a drooling retard and trust them with pacing their own playtime. Fuck outta here and back to gay elf.

>>6257308
Salty about being shit it is

>>6257312
Now say that in english without raging.

>>6257145
>The genre seems stale and repetitive.
They should be called Repeating Type Games or Repeat 'em Ups. Cause that's all you'll be doing. Sadly they never evolved like fighting games or jrpgs so they are stuck in the worst part of the 90s

Play Ikaruga it's the only shmup with any creativity

>>6257317
Did JRPGs rot your brain so much that you cant comprehend basic posts? Read something that's not embarrassing anime dialogue for toddlers for a few months then come back

>>6257321
Nah this is a pleb opinion, loads of unique shmups out there that mix up the gameplay beyond what Ikaruga does

>>6257321
Ikaruga isn't a shmup.

>>6257330
Too creative to be a real shmup, huh?

>>6257330
Not this meme, Ikaruga is very much a shmup, it's heavily influenced by earlier single screen shmups where good shot timing was key first and foremost, the color matching is just a way to emphasize those almost robotic precision requirements

Shmups are execution based rather than creativity based, once you realise that you'll know if they're for you or not

I liked this genre as a child, but I grew out of it when I realized how shallow it is. Just play a rhythm game, at least those don't try to fool you into thinking there is more to it.

>>6257325
You can rage and post incoherent drivel but don't expect everyone to understand. Nothing you said makes sense. Retro jrpgs aren't known for long tutorials or long cinematics. What are you blabbering about? Calm down, and try again.

Why is everything all or nothing with 4chan?
Shmups are either the greatest or they're complete shit
Some shmups are great and some are shit, like anything

>>6257348
Oh so you DID understand, youre just a fucking idiot
>Retro jrpgs aren't known for long tutorials or long cinematics.
Lol who are you trying to fool? Look at the PS1 Final Fantasy games though to be fair it can be hard to tell where the tutorial ends in those since most of the games feel like an extended tutorial. Even the so called well paced games like Chrono Trigger have constant cinematic or dialogue sequences that cannot be skipped because they are baked into the "gameplay"

>>6257356
Shmups do that too, don't be dishonest

>>6257336
Shmups are both. Takes a lot of creativity to come up with good routes, for example.

>>6257359
No idea what youve been playing but in any good shmup the dialogue is fully skippable and the cinematic sequences non existent beyond maybe a few second break while the boss enters the screen

>>6257370
Giga Wing and Gunbird 2 have the exact issue you say JRPGs have though

>>6257356
>all I know is FF on ps1
FF7-9 are not the norm for jrpgs. They are just overhyped. Like everyone who thinks Ikaruga is the benchmark for shmups.
even FF7 begins in action, you're running through a building trying to not get blown up. Saying it begins slow like a tutorial is retarded.

>Chrono Trigger have constant cinematic or dialogue sequences
so CT doesn't have good pacing because anytime you see dialogue you treat it like an unskippable cinematic and are confused by words? Sounds like you're the problem, not jrpgs.

>>6257145
It’s because the genre is stale and repetitive. There’s a reason it died out.

>>6257374
No they don't lol, press start to skip all dialogue instantly. If JRPGs did that there wouldnt be much left

>>6257379
Alright you're just shitposting
Here's your last (You)

>>6257312
>games literally designed to extract quarters from schlubs
>they respect the players time!

Cope

>>6257379
Nearly every jrpg has skippable cut scenes (except FF10 wtf) and you can mash A to skip all the dialogue in a few seconds...why are you talking about something you don't understand? Or you're lying about intentionally. Sad

>>6257376
Ikaruga is a very good well designed game with lots of positive qualities that represents the genre well. Is FF like this for jarpigs or are you fags ashamed of one of the most influential series that informed most RPGs that came after? And yes its shitty pacing, there is no excuse for taking control away from the PLAYER for such long periods of time and so frequently, it makes the genre utterly unplayable if you dont care about queer emo teen dialogue, not that it has much to offer beyond that. Fuck outta here with these halfassed excuses

>jarpig
Oh it's THEM

>>6257382
Are you willing to back up your bullshit and record a webm of you skipping lengthy sequences in RPGs in a "few seconds" or are you going to back off like the retard you are because you know damn well that youll be sitting and pressing A for a minute? Then again maybe thats gameplay to you guys

>>6257393
t. has never seen a speedrun

>>6257398
Oh no don't start them on speedrunning

>>6257393
>press A for one minute?!
>1 minute of spamming A is too much!
kek, you will never get good at life.

>>6257385
>Ikaruga is a very good well designed game with lots of positive qualities that represents the genre well.
Ok this is bait.

>>6257398
>RPG speedruns
Just take the L

>>6257404
To skip one small dialogue scene in a GAME? Way too much, also lmao @ this goalpost shifting went from "a few seconds" to "w-well a minute isn't much". What's next "so what if it takes a few hours total????!?!?!?!?!?!"

>That guy who gets filtered by jrpg intros in 1minute
lol take the L

>he doesn't play everything

>>6257406
Not an argument, a lot of shmups players are real salty about it being popular but that doesn't make it a bad game in the slightest

>>6257409
>1 minute is now a few hours
>shifting goal posts this badly
lol take the L

>>6257416
>a lot of shmup players
there are 4 in the west and 12 in japan.

>>6257420
What? What the fuck does this post mean?
Do you mean faggots with a youtube channel?

>>6257417
>implying the games are just 1 scene
Besides I just checked RPG Limit Break FF8 "speed"run and the first scene takes almost 10 minutes. No wonder you were afraid to put your money where your mouth is and record some webms! Not a good look.

>>6257414
There's no time to play everything. That's why you should stick to playing artistic masterworks that have stood the test of time, like Chrono Trigger, Ikaruga, and Undertale.

>>6257434
I agree, that's why I play nothing but Gunbird 2

>>6257426
>Besides I just checked RPG Limit Break FF8 "speed"run and the first scene takes almost 10 minutes.
It's standard for jrpgs to have intros like that to set the scene and world, to give you direction. Afterwards skipping dialogue and cutscenes is very fast and easy. Remember these games take dozens of hours to complete. So 10minutes at the start, and then 10minutes in the middle [when a plot twist happens] isn't such a big deal. Specially if you are enjoying the story and are fully literate.

Also PS1 Squaresoft games aren't the norm for retro jrpgs, they went overboard with exposition in some parts, sure. But that's only a big issue if you are replaying them a lot and know the story and dialogue already. If you look at most retro jrpgs they didn't invest so much space writing dialogue.

It's pretty retarded to compare the two anyway, you play them for different reasons

>>6257438
>It's standard for jrpgs to have intros like that to set the scene and world, to give you direction
From denial to excuses, your genres shit lad

>progression systems
>animu aesthetics
>muh story
It's unreal how much cancer jarpigs have.
And there are subhumans that actually like it.

Reminder "jarpig" is a term used by a shmup discord that raid /vr/

>>6257420
You just need more bullets.

>>6257445
>jarpigs start thread to whinge about shmups
>get shit on
>whine about meanies from some secret discord
Typical

>>6257450
So you're from the trannycord

>>6257442
>progression systems
JRPGs have awful progress progression systems compared to the CRPGs of the time.

>>6257453
Lolno, what the hell are you even talking about? Which trannycord?

>>6257458
>he's still doing this shtick

>>6257441
a 50hour game with a 10minute intro is fine. Get good.

>>6257459
Take your pills lad

>>6257460
Get good at wasting my time? No thanks Im not a retard

>>6257445

>>6257445
>Reminder "jarpig" is a term used by a shmup discord that raid /vr/
report anyone who says that term unironically. discord is full of homos and autists. We don't need that on /vr/

>>6257465
You have bad taste, that's fine. Some of us like good games.

shumptards are steaming mad 24/7 lmao

I got to stage 6 in Dodonpachi today. It wasn't that exciting, it wasn't that bad..It was meh...I'd say 1% of shmups are decent but 99% are very trash.

>ITS NOT MY SHITPOSTING THATS THE PROBLEM ITS SOME SECRET DISCORD
The jarpig persecution complex

Stop playing jarpigs.

>>6257469
Jarpigs can hardly be called games much less good, get a clue
>>6257479
Based yamauchi

Dead genre. Cope more, shmupfags.

>>6257473
Problem with shmups is people get addicted to seeing numbers go up on the screen, they are intentionally designed to condition this behavior, so they'll play them for decades like Pachinko Slot machines, hoping to "win" the "prize" (big score) . And winning is actually very rng based because they'll get a PB and not be able to reproduce it for months or years lol

>>6257465
Getting good at jrpgs is more worthwhile than shmups to be honest.

I catch myself playing the Darius series, Bio Hazard Battle and Troubleshooter on the Genesis. Nothing wrong with badass soundtracks during a Shoot em up

>>6257486
Everything you just said applies tenfold to jarpigs, minus skill or gameplay

>>6257483
>Jarpigs can hardly be called games
That's a good thing. jrpgs are art, they are the Complete Package.
a mere 'game' is inferior

>>6257491
Nothing wrong with shmups as long as you play other genres more.

>>6257493
LOL how does your dad feel about the """art""" you consume

>>6257497
I do. Who is lost enough in their minds to play just shoot em up games? That's like playing just sports games.

>>6257484
>FFVII remake changes to fast paced live action combat instead of turn based
What were you saying?

>>6257509
I don't like JRPGs either. Your shitty genre is still dead, though.

>>6257512
Everything is dead except for cinematic walking simulators in the (((current year gaming industry))).

Fuck off back to /v/, troll.

>>6257521
Not true at all. Shmups, however, are very dead and have been for a very long time. And for good reason.

>>6257528
Yeah cause gaymers love progression socializing and waifushit instead of gameplay

>>6257528
>And for good reason.
Which one is you in the image?