/vr/ - Retro Games

>>6236080
The pokémon pinball games.

>>6236081
>>6236134
Pokemon Pinball and Super Robot Pinball were both developed by Jupiter (also well known for the Game Boy Camera and Picross). Lots of great stuff.

>>6236080
Really, it's kind of hard to mess up pinball. I'd be more interested in what are the bad pinball video games out there.

>>6236632
Sonic Spinball is pretty bad, even though I know they tried to make it with bits of platforming and Sonic gameplay in mind, it fails.

>>6236632
People rave about those turbographx pinball titles but I just find them uninspired and ordinary.
There's a bunch of pinball games for the gameboy that are really shitty. I often wonder if the people who made video pinball games ever played the real thing.
Psycho Pinball for the megadrive/genny is one of if not the best retro pinball game out there.

>>6236632
it's really easy to mess up pinball, there are a ton of retro pinball games with unforgivable physics. of note, there is a certain non-retro gameboy pinball game featuring Pac-Man, where the flipper physics break when the up-post is not active (apparently the devs just never tested it without the post up), and it has no high-score table.

>>6236134
Goddamn it, i genuinely came here to recommend this game expecting no one else to know it!

Anyways, the Crush series are pretty damn good, Alien Crush, Devil's Crush and etc.

Kirby Pinball Land and Revenge Of The Gator for the original Game Boy are a lot of fun too.

If you aren't against modern games that are digital only, Pinball Arcade and Pinball FX3 are fun, though the first one has expensive DLC.

Oh, and Demon's Tilt is the closest thing to a recent Crush game all around and it's pretty fun.
>>6236632
Bad physics or terrible table design can screw a game.

>>6236661

I liked Sonic Spinball. It wasn't the finest work of art I'd ever experienced but I liked it.

>>6236686
Always good to cross paths with another /m/an of culture!

>>6236080
I like the Digital Pinball series by KaZe. They are more of the realistic simulation style of pinball games, but I think they are cool.

That Little Mermaid pinball looks good to me and I'll give it a try. Thanks for the recommendation.

>>6237245
Last Gladiator is cool

>>6236632
The Pokémon pinball games are fucking shite.
There's like one main table that has almost no obstacles on it and a second table that is even smaller. The physics are also fucked, the ball just goes where it decides to go and nothing has real weight to it.
The only good thing about it is the art and how it looks, people who think its a good game just have fond memories that cloud their judgement.

For me, it's Pinball

>>6238225
Say the name, but it's Fantastic Pinball for PS1 and Sega Saturn, another fun game.

There is also Battle Pinball on the SNES but i haven't played it, all i know is that it's based on Gundam, Kamen Rider and Ultraman with tables dedicated to those franchises, also one based on an original character from the developer.

Seems like a weird choice, one anime and two tokusatsu franchises, two franchises with tall fighters and human sized ones, one is based on mechas while the others are transforming heroes, there's always an odd man in the trio.

Again, haven't played it so i can't say if it's great, but it seems interesting, if for nothing else but the bizarre crossover and the fact it's a pinball game.

>>6238240
I remember having fun with Battle Pinball.It's more cartoony take on pinball rather than technical but the table layouts were entertaining despite me knowing nothing about the source material.
Also quitting the table would break the emulation in Snes9x 1.52. I think it was fixed later.

>>6238158
this also vs pinball

>>6236080
All pinball is fun
Even had fun playing Atari 2600 pinball
Grew up playing Moraffs Pinball on my 286, wasted so many hours on that
>>6236686
nailed it. GB had great pinball games

can you fags just talk about real pinball for once

>>6236080
>not color correcting your GBC games

>>6239479
There are threads for real pinball from time to time. This is a video game pinball thread.
While we're at it, did you guys notice that most video game pinballs aren't actually like real pinballs, but more like pachinko with flippers? Since the table is vertical instead of leaning horizontally.

>>6238076
Well damn.
They get such hype so I just picked up the GBC one.
I'll see if I tolerate it better than you.

>>6239497
I am lazy. that screencap is offa google and also have flux on.
I'm playing a rumble version in my SP.

>>6236632
Honestly I enjoyed Jaleco pinball party on gb more than this.

>>6238225
Fucking love this game. I wish there was an english fan patch for it so I could know more of the ins and outs of the rules. I always pick the warrior just because of his fucking awesome music.
https://youtu.be/0BZHptG-h7I?t=51

>>6236134
Literally the game that got me into SRW, I wish there was another with new mechas or that Pokemon pinball had battles like this one

>>6236080
I looked up the developer of LM2 and before they made that they made a port of an Ultra Pinball game. Has anyone played it? It looks good.
https://youtu.be/QRii2296mmA

>>6238225
>check info about this game
>it is made by Technosoft
Now I'm genuinely curious about it

>>6239479
...Because this is video game pinball, it's like asking why you don't just try to do or imitate what characters in the games you play do.

Besides, both are very different and tend to have different physics, there are things that can be done with video game pinball that would be impossible on real tables and that's part of the fun.
>>6239239
Oh yeah, the GB had some fun pinball games, sadly, i feel like after the GB era, pinball games started to be less about taking advantage of the fact that they are video games to trying to put either actual tables in games or be a close simulation of those.

Which is fine, a lot of people prefer the real life style, i just think video pinball has it's own charm that went away from a while, though i am glad that Demon's Tilt exists.

But seriously, why isn't anyone doing a Kirby Pinball Land style game nowadays, or a Pokemon/Super Robot Pinball one too?

I would gladly pay money for such a game.

>>6236080
Alien Crush (TG-16)
Devil's Crush (TG-16)
Jaki Crush (SNES)
Super Pinball (SNES)
Super Pinball II (SNES)
Battle Pinball (SNES)
Last Gladiators (Saturn)
Necronomicon (Saturn)

Epic Pinball is a never ending love story for me.

>>6240903
Silverball was good as well. Always thought it was Epic again, but recent forays into the darkness of DOS lead me to believe otherwise.
Either way, pretty sure it was the exact same engine, just different tables.

>>6236686
>Demon's Tilt
Seems to have a positive reception and looks really cool

Anybody played the WiiWare Alien Crush game?

>>6236080
flounder isn't looking so good

Are pinball games actually supposed to be beaten? I once filled most of the lights in Space Cadet, but I've never seen anyone beat any pinball game ever.

>>6241095
I assume games like Pokemon Pinball have an ending screen when you collect all the pokemon or whatever.
Otherwise, pinball are endless score-based games

>>6236080
>Mouse cursors in a Gameboy Color game

>That color palette

>Disney renaissance

The 90's-ness is overwhelming me.

>>6241125
To be fair, that's a GBC game so it's very late 90s, and that's not actually a Little Mermaid game but Little Mermaid II (released only to home video).
Sadly it was made by some shovelware company so it looks kinda shitty.
For true 90s disney renaissance vidya you gotta look into the Capcom and Sega games from the early to mid 90s.
Capcom's Little Mermaid game for NES is a lowkey pretty cool game that got heavily ignored back then because it was "for girls". In reality, it's like a fun version of Ecco the dolphin with a cute waifu.

>>6241095
Many '90s pinball tables with dot matrix displays had an ultimate goal, usually achieved by beating all missions, which would activate the 'Wizard Mode'. After completing the wizard mode the game would continue as normal or reset mission completion. That's the closest you had to 'beating' a real life pinball table. Many realistic pinball video games would follow similar formula.

What's the name of that really good pinball emulator, the free one

>>6238225
You had me at anime angel tits

>>6241385
Visual Pinball X

I'm not a fan of pinball games that try to be realistic and accurate, I prefer pinball games that do stuff you couldn't do on real pinball.

>>6241121
Honestly, i love that they are about chasing scores, a good score chasing game of any kind, particularly pinball, will make you come back for more and more developing your strategies and skills, and as you see yourself improving, you get bigger scores with your high score or someone else's becoming a great objective to beat, since someone mentioned Space Cadet, i have really fond memories of playing that game between my father as we would try to beat each other's score.

Sadly score chasing games mostly died after the early 80's in arcades and the Atari 2600,'and few games managed to get popular in this vein...unless you count mobile games which have a suprising number of these.

Still, i wonder if we could make a thread about posting our own scores in retro games and make a board competition, just posting random scores and seeing if someone would want to challenge your scores...probably leading to a lot of video pinball scores.

>>6239758
>2:43

Can the Japs just put copyrighted songs in their pinball games? That's Gloria, isn't it?

bump

>>6245078
The fact that Galactic Pinball visibly has a puck instead of a ball somehow mentally changes the whole presentation for me. It's weird.

>>6241190
Almost every pin made since the 90's has had a major progression system designed to build up to a final wizard mode. In an interesting design twist Total Nuclear Annihilation actually completely ENDS if you successfully destroy the 9th reactor. If you did so on your first ball, then subsequent balls instead just tally up the total scores of all the reactors again.

I have a big soft spot for Pinball Quest for NES. The RPG mode is short but I always have a blast climbing the tower, fighting the bosses, and stealing from the store.

You know, the most recent pinball games that come to mind are mostly western, and the most recent Nintendo pinball game was Metroid Prime Pinball.

Was there some interest in the 80's and 90's in Japan that mostly left afterwards?

Because that sucks, their pinball games did more crazy stuff with their tables that couldn't be done on real life tables, but i guess interest died down.

>>6247149
>the most recent Nintendo pinball game was Metroid Prime Pinball.
Both Super Mario Ball/Mario Pinball Land and Metroid Prime Pinball were made in the UK by ex Pro Pinball devs.
They also made Pinball Pulse for DSi which was pretty good

>>6247226
I wish they would make more pinball games, sadly, pinball games seem to have become more niche than ever and a lot of focus is given to Pinball FX3 and Pinball Arcade apparently, not that i have anything against those, certainly spent some hours playing Pinball FX even if i dislike how versions let some tables go, still sore Pinball FX3 doesn't have the Plants VS Zombies table.

>>6248604
At this point it is a Pinball FX monopoly. Pinball Arcade is dead and Zen has obtained the WMS license to sell us those old tables once again, this time with better physics.

I for once welcome our new Hungarian overlords.

>>6236080
B
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SxEYuIsdICo

>>6237245
You are missing Akira Psychoball.

Pinbot!
https://youtu.be/XEWflJqPMiM

>>6241190
I still find TZ to be extremely overrated. It's a nice pinball, but most of the action if on the upper-right corner of the playfield.

>>6238076
>The Pokémon pinball games are fucking shite.
But that's wrong

>>6236661
Sonic Spinball was my gateway drug for home gaming. I bought a Genesis because of it.

>>6236661
I think it's pretty novel.
I certainly wouldn't call it good, but it's fun. I think I personally have a hard time disliking it just due to nostalgia, though.

>>6248614
Me too, mostly because they're one of the few developers keeping video game pinball alive to begin with, all while giving old tables to us as well, God, i wish there was a Doom Eternal table.

Still, it's sad that the most popular or well received pinball game i can think of made recently is Yoku's Island Express, and it's not even a pinball game, mostly a metroidvania with kinda average at best pinball.

>>6238076
yeah I like them and have played them to death but honestly they're super overrated. the main gimmick is fun, catching and training up etc but the actual pinball feel kinda blows and the boards are boring. they got some sweet ass music though

>>6236080
Creep Night Pinball
Lost Island Pinball
still the best

>>6237621
I think it is too. The game runs on the Saturn's high-res mode and leaving the onscreen indicators in the standard resolution. The lessons they learned making Last Gladiators made Necronomicon even better.


>>6248652
I didn't want to include it because reasons.

>>6236080
The Pinball Games from DICE (Pinball Dream, Fantasies and Illusions) that I played on my Amiga were some of my favorite games on the system along with the later pinball games that were heavily inspired by the DICE games like Slam Tilt, Pinball Brain Damage, Obsession, Pinball Prelude or the other pinball games published by 21st Century Entertainment that continued the DICE series after they stopped making these games with a much shittier developer (Spidersoft Limited) with rather crappy games like Pinball Mania or Pinball World.

https://youtu.be/61HPf5H-U8Y?t=5217
(1:26:50)