/vr/ - Retro Games

First for, I'm gonna play the shit out of Ter Shibboleth 2, because I just find out that the map pack exist.

=== NEWS ===

[2-26] WRATH: Aeon of Ruin - Content Update #1 Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNkcAWN6LOA&feature=emb_title [Embed]

[2-24] MetaDoom to change how inventory works and its Dehacked mapset compatibility
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=53010&sid=1bc7f630d04de675d528eb139da9d882&start=1695#p1139257

[2-24] Complex Clusterfuck 4.1 has been released
https://hastebin.com/raw/lecocidofo
https://mega.nz/#F!LB91TKqI!ToGHXZx-4ipB0kL5tzo5Zw
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Edp92Gr590NNd7rCLit5F8yrKm8y9SvJ

[2-24] A new Quake 2 neural upscale texture update has been released
https://github.com/Calinou/quake2-neural-upscale/releases/tag/v2.0.0

[2-24] Someone ripped all of Quake champions models for use
https://knockout.chat/thread/9182

[2-24] ZRadar released.
https://gitlab.com/accensi/zradar

[2-24] Nobody told me about id updated to v0.1.8
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=67319&start=120#p1139131

[2-17] Kinsie has released stuff that he stopped working on, allowing people to pick the code for their own purposes
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=67520

[2-16] Doosk, a Dusk TC for Doom, has been released by AlphaEnt2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo9E8axNJcM [Embed]

[2-16] Quality of life improvement small update on the LTG follower;
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=67163&p=1134455#p1138185

[2-15] Nobody told me about id updated to V0.1.5
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=67319&start=75

[2-15] New addon for Blood released using Nblood-specific features
https://www.moddb.com/addons/no-hope-in-sight-demo

[2-13] Double Impact is now officially curated
https://twitter.com/bethesda/status/1228036917524094978?s=20

[2-10] Nobody Told Me About id v0.1.2 - A Build Engine-styled mod
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TMDyzC2ARg&feature=emb_title [Embed]

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>>6231776
DOOM console ports are on sale till March 2nd
https://twitter.com/bethesda/status/1232796951030136832?s=19

hazbin hotel more like trashbin hotel

what the fuck do I do

>>6231797
nvm I'm retarded

>>6231775
looks great for Hideous Destructor

bros i think i got my dad hooked. any tips for him?

Oh the new my little pony is now entering the cancer containment thread. What a shock.

>>6231836
me again, i haven't played all that much either so I guess I need the tips too. We've both only played on the original levels

How do I mitigate the framerate issues present in the Classic Redux version of Shadow Warrior? Whenever I pickup a fortune cookie or, occasionally, when I use items such as the medkit the framerate stutters/tanks. Vsync is off because if I turn it on the game becomes real choppy.

>>6231775
Is this a quake map set?

>>6231836
>>6231838
Use ZDL for a mod launcher, GZDoom for gameplay/advanced map mods and PRBoom/GLBoom for vanilla-like gameplay at high-rez. Let monsters infight to save ammo.
Other than that, circle-strafe like a bitch and shoot at it until it dies.

Lost Civilization is really cool

send
reinforcements


pls

>>6231876
Is this archvile using Marine as a hat?

Why are people so obsessed with megawads? A tight 9 level mapset is much better than a 32 level tedium which either turns even the best ideas into a chore after a while, or just is a multimapper clusterfuck without coherent style and progression.

>>6231852
it's better or worse

>>6231881
He's carrying me around on his shoulder to parade me about as a war trophy to make his dick seem bigger for the other 4 archviles right next to him.

https://twitter.com/viperwave/status/1233367262121193474

Fucking lmao

>>6231887
Old news. Piss off re**it.

>>6231887
NNNOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST MAKE YOUR MOD INCOMPATABLE WITH BRUTAL DOOM, THAT'S BULLSHIT, THAT'S NOT FAIR, YOU HAVE TO LET ME MUCK UP YOUR MOD WITH BRUTAL DOOM, I ONLY LIKE THIS GAME IF I CAN TURN IT INTO CALL OF DUTY NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>6231823
It's Quake, look at the shadows (and google)

>>6231887
This shit is old and essentially came from here. I still don't get why anyone would run more than one gameplay mod with Brutal Doom unless technical ignorance was really that much of a casual filter.

>>6231903
Yeah well I asked if it was quake and there was only an answer after something stupid was said so fuck you.

>>6231859
I like how despite the scale of the maps it is very difficult to get lost.

>>6231887
They're about 5 years late to this party and Twitter links here are stupid.

>>6231909
Don't be surprised. But also, don't hold it against anyone. Somebody could be semi competent with navigating windows, figure out how to load up Doom on a sourceport, see BD, think it's cool, and see a buncha other recommended mods and mapsets, and pile them all ontop of each other.

Picture some old boomer who played Doom while they were in college and it was new, but never really got into computers, even casually. All they'll see is "dude this shit is really cool" and load it all up at once. And then either they get compatibility errors or a dozen tiny revanents killing them.

>>6231916
nigga I got lost for like 15 minutes and it's because I forgot about the one important switch at the top of a mountain in front of a giant mansion but fuck you anyway

>>6231923
That's on you, dumbo.

No it isn't fuck you, I saw the switch but your attention from the viewpoint is drawn to the island the cyberdemon was on, and there's other shit to the sides of you to draw you away and lead you to ammo or health and shit and everything loops around on itself. It's easy to get lost and confused fuck you.

Still no proper Shadow Warrior port. Blood got one, but Shadow Warrior still gets shafted.

>>6231930
Hahah, look at the dumbo.

>>6231920
>And then either they get compatibility errors or a dozen tiny revanents killing them.

>Load up tenements in doom 2 after finally beating suburbs
>Tons of horseshit traps
>Somehow still leave with full health, armor, and tons of ammo
Romero you fucking bastard I love you

>>6231935
No it won't. They'll have no idea why the game isn't working, or they'll get owned by tiny revanants and just drop the whole thing altogether.

It's a stupid barrier to entry that does nothing but sabotage old people wanting to replay doom or kids wanting to experience the 'old school' of the new hot FPS on the market.

It's like purposefully tripping someone when they're trying to learn karate and then punching them in the face because they looked up the wrong guides and joined the wrong dojo. Anybody who knows about doom modding is going to be able to circumvent it, and anyone who's trying to get into doom and sees a buncha high profile mods and think they seem cool and fun will basically end up bricking their install.

Instead of gatekeeping based on skill or game knowledge you've erected a gate based on culture and meta. It's stupid and retarded. Doom is a game that literally runs on anything with a screen, it shouldn't beat up clueless noobs because they downloaded the wrong mods or wads.

>>6231949
Just admit that you went through that experience.

It's time to kick ass

>>6231953
I didn't. I've never seen the tiny revanents until that youtube link. The worst I've had is maroon, diamond shaped sprites with a '!', or a soft locked wad for whatever reason

That kind of stupid shit just because people hate BD so much didn't exist years ago. You could just get the game and get wads running on it easily. All it is, is a circlejerk for people that hate a specific mod. It doesn't do anything to stop the popularity of it because anybody who knows how to set up a sourceport and load wads can get it to run without any of that bullshit. All it does is make it harder for old boomers and new kids to play the game and become invested in the community.

If some old ass 60 year old 401k pensioner plays BD and comes on you can convince him that vanilla doom is better. Same with some 12 year old who wants to see what the roots of the bad ass metal meme FPS of the year is all about.

You can't do that if you have some stupid troll shit ruining their experience from the first time they bother to play the game. You can get a dude that plays a 2.5 game with ADS and meme blood splatter to play the original version. You can't get the dude to do that after he fucks around for half an hour to get a game working and then all that happens is it crashes because of sabotage, or he dies in seconds and has no idea why because of another kind of sabotage.

It's fucking stupid. Doom is a game everyone who even looks at video games should play at least once. This gay gatekeeping prevents that from happening.

>>6231887
>the kicking at the end

>>6231769
Let's quit it with the first-grader humor titles, shall we

>>6231882
What's the difference between playing a megawad with varied levels and playing three 9-level wads?
Don't blame it on the number of maps, blame it on the authors.

>>6231975
Anon, who hurt you?

>>6231975
>Doom is a game everyone who even looks at video games should play at least once.
Nobody prevents anyone from doing that. Loaded with vanilla or a single gameplay mod and then some levelpack it will work just fine. A person trying to run multiple mods at once likely has already played Doom a bit and figured they'd try to mix things up. The person who's never played Doom before and then runs it with multiple mods at once for their very first playthrough only exists in your mind.
Tiny skellingtons are good banter, they aren't much worse than getting a flat-out unplayable game with all sorts of Decorate errors.

>>6231971
And kick ass

>>6231903
oh ok, neat

You're all a bunch of cocks. Every question i've asked about wads and mods over the past couple of weeks has gotten nothing but sarcasm, autistism, or turned into screeching about Brutal Doom, Half Life, or Eternal.

>>6231851
Yes.

>>6231893
>>6231902

>>6232040
Been here for about two years and it's really gone to shit for quite some time now.

>>6232040
Your fault for asking for advice in a general. All you need to play is above in the repo, everything else is for either tweaking, fixing stuff or presenting own stuff. If you do neither you're a shitposter.

>>6232040
happens to every general eventually. discord/irc/non-anon/clique faggotry takes over.

>>6232072
When i see something im curious about, ask for people's personal opinions about it, and then get told i have shit taste or get "yikes!" or called a zoomer when i haven't even touched it and know nothing about it then i'm not the problem. If asking a simple question out of curiosity makes me a shitposter then i reiterate, you're a bunch of cocks.

Good heretic wads?

>>6232012
>A person trying to run multiple mods at once likely has already played Doom a bit and figured they'd try to mix things up.

Completely and purposefully missing an entire point I was making in my post.

>>6232040
>Brutal Doom, Half Life, or Eternal.
wah wah wah stop shitting on bad things.

>>6232040

Half-Life deserves to be shat on relentlessly tho until the end of time

There we go again...

>>6232113
Based

>>6232116
Based? Based on what?

>>6232089
The Wayfarer won a caco this year, and not without reason. Apart from adding an episode, it replaces the thrilling damage sponge gameplay with something resembling Quake a bit more. Which is to say, time to kill is still longer than in Doom, but you won't die of old age while holding the left mouse button like you would in Heretic.
Also, it has really good maps. Very picturesque.

>>6232115
You realize most old school fps fans don't like hl?.

>>6232126
I'm retro fps boomer. I did play Half-Life when it came it out, and it was so fucking good back then. It hasn't aged as well as Doom, Quake, Duke etc. It's not really good anymore, but it isn't really that bad either.

>>6232112
>>6232112
"hey guys what are some good maps"
>HEY DID YOU KNOW THAT THESE UNRELATED THINGS SUCK?
"ok but where are the good maps"
>wah wah wah stop shitting on bad things
I see

>>6232160
What maps do you want anon?

So you admit hl is bad?.
You are literally proving my point that no retro fps fan respects hl.

>>6232072
>if you don't shit post, you're a shitposter

>>6232162
Not him but I’d assume that he’d simply want recommendations on neat wads that have come out in the past year or so instead of some tiny slight causing people to argue about why BD is unbalanced or how nudoom and HL ruined FPS for the umpteenth time

>>6232072
>Asking about Doom related things in the Doom thread is shitposting

>>6232173
the truth hurts i see.

>>6232173
Actually Quake 2 and Unreal ruined fps.

>>6232164
>It’s not really good anymore, but it isn’t really bad either
>but it isn’t really bad either

>>>>so you admit hl is bad?
can you read

>>6232180
Still you are proving that only zoomers or people with shit taste love hl.

>>6232178
>you want to see people showing other people things they might enjoy instead of the same played-out arguments that have consistently appeared in this general, this board, and on doomworld for years, you can’t handle the truth lmao
I bet you have a dedicated wojak poster for your daily trip to /v/

>>6232179

No, it was Quake 3 which ruined FPS by making the devs focus more on the multiplayer at the expense of singleplayer

>>6232195
But that was because the damage was already done. Then they realized consoles exist and bam halo.

In the process raping stuff and creating bioshit, and raping Thief and Deus Ex.

Calm down guys and relax. We can talk about retro fps games without going on each other throats. Channel your hate to demons, undead, aliens and eldritch horrors. Play some stuff.

Wolf3D has some really, really bad level design

>>6232191
>that have consistently appeared in this general, this board, and on doomworld for years
it's like half life was only loved by normalfags instead like halo.

>>6232202
No fuck off shit fps should be hated.
>>6232203
What's the matter too confusing for a hlbaby?.

>>6232202
>Channel your hate to demons, undead, aliens and eldritch horrors.
And these shits.

>>6232018
Why? Are you gonna run it with my mod? You shouldn't, because they'll conflict out the ass.

>>6231779
It's still $20 for Doom, Doom 2, and Doom 3, on Swedish PSN.

>>6231769
>>6231991
^This. It got old fast

>>6231769
Trying to play Sigil Shreds and I have Sigil Doom Ultimate and Sigil shreds in GZdoom and it just open Doom when I drag and drop it to Gzdooms exe

>>6231850
You don't. It's fucked

>>6232207
go back

>>6231775
Hope you're not too sensitive to low framerates pal, or shib8 will make your eyes melt.
There's an update to the pack from the original author, somewhere among the comments in the pack's quaddicted page. Allegedly it makes things a bit better.

>>6232245
Back to Saturn X?

>>6232252
BACK IN BLACK
I HIT THE SACK
IT'S BEEN SO LONG, I'M GLAD TO BE BACK

>>6232245
half life is garbage.
Rpgcodex, doomworld, ttlg, 8kun, julay.world all hate it.

>>6232258
Why does the original Doom chaingun have such beefy barrels when it only fires the same piddly bullets as the pistol?

>>6232245

Back to the past?

>>6232273
Can I go too? It was comfy.

>>6232270
Aesthetics. But yes, it would be fun if it was more powerful, longer barrel would mean more time for the bullet to accelerate, thus more energy on target.
In a really simplistic ways.

>>6232273
To play the shitty .wads that suck ass?

>>6232270
uhh, heatsinks?
The entire point of a chaingun is to maintain rapid fire without damaging the barrels due to heat.

Maybe they're made with heatsinking shrouds so the revolving motion can air-cool them and they can withstand a longer sustained fire rate.

>>6232265
I don't give a shit about hl or your groupthink faggot, go back to them

Stop replying to Half-Life hate bait

Stop praising hl then if you don't want to see me anymore.

Stop

Niggers

tell me why hl is so good.

>>6232270
I don’t know. I do know that the pistol and chaingun were originally supposed to be an assault rifle and machine gun respectively though. The assault rifle was also supposed to have a bayonet, but it was replaced with the fists.

See https://julay.world/v/res/327.html
Half life is hated.

Hammer time

Is there a mod out there that only replaces the chaingun to some assault rifle or whatever that fits the original weapon set?
And is not that ugly thing with UAC written on it of course.

>>6232304
it's fun

>>6232314
see>>6232307

>>6232318
see>>whothefuckcares

>>6232321
>can't refute it

>>6232324
see>>6232321

>>6232307
who

>>6232290
That would be a very awkward way to do forced air cooling when you don't even take advantage of the Gatling setup for a blistering rate of fire. If you look at something like an old Lewis gun, it has a hollow shroud over a single barrel, and some radiator fins running along the barrel, the gas escaping the muzzle after the bullet forcibly pulls in cool air from behind the shroud and runs it along the barrel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO5fptjmsgU

And that's an old WW1 era clunkerfucker, you can apply a similar principle to basically any automatic.

>>6232307
JUUULAAAAAAY

>>6232313
Probably.

>>6232329
>>6232327
Seething because even zoomers prefer Blood, Duke, Unreal, Doom, Quake over Half Life.

>>6232331

>>6232335
>>6232293

>>6232318
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HATE HALF LIFE!

Nice cope.
Only reddit likes hl.

are there any good weapon mods that allow me to hold a different weapons in each hand?

>>6232313
Yes.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/535235566476853259/683010750570168392/machinegun3.wad

Not entirely original Chaingun behavior, you can tap-fire single shots, and basically as fast as you want (up to the fire rate of the normal Chaingun), looks slightly smoother too, but it's the same function call so it's the same damage and the same spread behavior.

I'm looking through some wads in the OP and in the cacoawards. Three that caught my eye were Torment and Torture, Ashes 2036 (footage i saw also used Hideous Destructor), and Lost Civilization. Any opinions on these?

>>6232371
An anon in this thread got stuck at one point in Lost Civilization, which as you can see made him quite upset.

Are you going to ignore my arguments like you always do?.

I don't know if this is the best place to ask this, but I'll ask anyway.

How do you reduce the mouse sensitivity in the unity port for Ultima Underworld?

>>6232391
What?

>>6232391
>>6232398
>tfw when you avoid giving (You)'s to own your opponents but only end up making the thread a confusing mess

remember when this thread was about doom?

>>6231949
>It's a stupid barrier to entry
How the fuck is incompatibilities arising from someone trying to use a huge pileup of mods that overwrite each other a "stupid" barrier of entry? How could the modder possibly avoid that? Are you seriously expecting the modder to make their mod compatible with every possible combination of other mods that anyone could possibly come up with?

The best approach is indeed the one HDoom took, when you detect someone is playing your mod with other popular and incompatible gameplay mods, kill the player and show a message telling them "don't use [popular mod] with this, fuckface". It gets the point across succinctly and doesn't leave the player to contend with a bunch of unintended and unpredictable behavior while wondering if that's how it's supposed to be.

just admit hl is not a classic, redditors.

>>6232416
I remember when it was about DOUK!

>>6231985
Is that Shoenice?

>>6232416
nope

>>6232416
yep

>>6232416
20 minutes ago, baby?

>>6232416
>>6232435

You dumb assholes. It was always about Doom 2016 and Eternal. What do you think this board is for? 1999 and below? Fuck no. Doom Eternal in March 20th.

I won.
Half Life reputation forever destroyed.

>>6232442
never post that image ever again you disgusting little faggot

>>6232418
>The best approach is indeed the one HDoom took, when you detect someone is playing your mod with other popular and incompatible gameplay mods,
Why would someone want to combine HDoom and brutl, anyways?

>>6232442

Is there more of this?

>>6232085
The only thing that really gets that sort of reaction is Brutal Doom, and that's because it's infamous among the Doom community as being babby's first mod and everyone being absolutely fucking sick of newfags arriving and opening with "HEY GUISE WHAT ABOUT BRUTAL DOOM EH?", I'd wager you'd get the same reaction in every Doom community except maybe reddit's because it's newfag central. The Half-Life posts are a singular known autistic shitposter who just recycles the same HL BAD posts every so often, just ignore him.

>>6232448
>>6232452
The duality of man.

>>6232442

>>6232451
Maybe they have a guro fetish or something, I don't judge too much, I know what it's like to be a freak, but at the same time they would have to be a fucking idiot, because loading H-Doom and Brutal Doom at the same time isn't going to magically create new guro fetish assets and functionality, it's just going to be a conflicting mess that doesn't work.

>>6232453
multiple people hate hl.
It just bad compared to other retro fps.

>>6232453
funny thing is, i didnt ask what people thought of Brutal Doom, i just mentioned i already had it while asking what else was out there to try. Really is a touchy subject.

https://julay.world/v/res/327.html#18086

>>6232467
fucking based

>>6232471
Duke in Deus Ex would be amazing.

That's an AI god I would follow.

>>6232465
Like I said, people are really sick of it everywhere. Modders too because they get swamped with messages from clueless people asking them to make their mod compatible with BD, which is why some have killswitches when they detect their mod and BD being used together. Nobody's telling you not to play BD btw, just do so quietly. Anyway for general recommendations there's the infographic in the OP and the cacowards, if you're looking for something more specific you can ask.

>>6232451
Why would someone combine any two gameplay mods together unless they are a monster mod and a weapons mod and have compatibility patches specifically so they can work with each other?

Do you retards really believe Half life can compare with the classics?.

>>6232416
and half life too. then these brutal doom zoomers came in and started shitting up every 3rd thread or so

Has anyone modded Half-Life's maps into Doom yet?

>>6232351
Doom Incarnate allows you to have any weapon in either hand with a keybind.
Vulkan Inc. has the Captain Akimbo class which has this as his main gimmick.

Do door effects actually just affect sector behind them and not use tags? Am I dumb for not realizing it for weeks?

>>6232491
Nice. That was one of the only good things in TNC.

>BD discource
>Unrelated topics
>Faggot with HL hate boner
>Animal Crossing posters
>Hazbin Hotel posters

>Doom3 plus all expansions more expensive than Doom1/2 and all the expansions on steam
I'm kinda surprised its like this.

>>6232507
Hey wait a second, this is a DOOM thread!

Why don't just hate hl like me?.

>>6232507
I posted the AC meme because I thought it'd upset actual AC fags. Sorry fo that.

Best Wolfenstein mods? Either for Doom or Wolf3D.

>>6232513
OH SHIT! I FORGOT TO BRING THE .WADS!

>>6232516
Totenkopf SLD Edition, very atmospheric and well done, does the most possible with 90 degree walls without introducing raised ceiling heights and Rise Of The Triad shenanigans.

>>6231887

News flash to me, but yeah, the mod itself Is definitely one of the best for Doom, outside of HDoom obviously, the guy who made it can be whothefuckcares, but yeah, he does seem sketchy at best, but don’t take it out on the mod itself! Only criticism I have is the reloading feat

>>6232525
Does it work with ECWolf?

Explain what HL1 does that makes it a classic FPS that doesn't rely on it 'starting a trend' or whatever. What does HL1 do that no other FPS hasn't done better?

may i post this weird map progress

>>6232528
It comes packaged with its own .exe, I think it may be based on ECWolf.

>>6232507

>>6232529
win 56 goty awards

>>6232531
Thats a cool effect

>>6232542
And?.

>>6231887
brutal babbies desperately pretending https://zandronum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=5199 wasn't a regular occurence.

>>6232507
that's not where you should be pointing that rifle

Still can't explain what makes hl1 so good i see.

>>6232529
it's old

>>6232560
hl1 is the hip game to hate now that the halo games are getting pc ports and people can admit they like them.

>>6232563
both hl1 and halo are garbage.

>>6232535
why is professor layton stomping on hexen

>>6232416
>Someone kept my gif after all these years.

>>6232560
it's fun

>>6232563
shame the ports are fucking tragic

>hating bad games
>shitposting

>>6232575
> DOAH wewding
for hiddest
when

Jannies are asleep lmaoooooooo post porn

>>6232265
>RPG CODEX
did you mean resetera's satellite contrarian forum?
the forum where the admins are mostly pedos involved with their Discord group who has that shit and discord covers it because some admins are there?
the forum where /tg/ oldest neckbeards has proven that they know SHIT about RPG games or even tabletop and they even issued tracking new members to look if they are from here due to the butthurt?

Also Doomworld likes Half Life 1, and YOU should be rangebanned back to /v/ Michael.
And yes >pi which is michael, is one of the anti HL shitposters from /v/ who are members from resetera discord group and the /vr/ shitposters who keeps locking threads here on /vr/ with false reports.

or derailing Doom or any Bethesda or classic id Threads on /v/.

>>6232585
What the fuck are you on about, rpg codex is as contrarian as this fucking place.

>>6232040
what questions have you asked that aren't answerable by something found in the OP?

>>6232407
just report/hide the two schizoid fags and move on

>>6232589
Codex is Contrarian to show relevance, also they know shit about gaming.

It doesn't matter hl is hated now.
Unreal, Sin and Shogo are more respected.

>>6232595
Ok sure it's you opinion.

It's as varied as this place and I not even a regular user there.

That said you responded to a fag throwing stuff at random, I have seen people talk well of HL in rpgcodex.

>>6232226
Get ZDoom and shove them all on that, then open Ultimate Doom.

>>6232602
>I have seen people talk well of HL in rpgcodex.
yeah the users with shit taste or newfags.

>>6232226
>>6232603
ZDL rather, slight brain fart.

>>6232605
Fuck back to /v/ shitzo

>>6232610
after you redditor.

>>6232593
I was hoping for some actual recommendations based on what people had played and enjoyed. I get what the OP is for, but there is over 25 years worth of stuff out there. Its a little daunting since i've never gone beyond the base published games before.

>>6232617
Go to https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?random
Play the wad until you stop having fun.
Repeat from step 1

>>6232585
>that image
What a pitiful excuse for a human being. I hope the WuFlu takes him.

>>6232589
RPGCodex is far more contrarian than any 4chan board could ever hope to be.

>>6232617
Just skim the caco awards.

You have yet to adress the julay.world thread.

>>6232617
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames//index.php?dir=levels/doom2/megawads/&sort=rating&direction=desc
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames//index.php?dir=levels/doom/megawads/&sort=rating&direction=desc

theres a start, anything below 3 stars is too shit to play, but there are probably dozens of megawads above 4 stars that will keep you busy.

I haven't really visited this thread after the HUH mapping project release - did the anons who made that fuckhuge cathedral and the Goldeneye dam ever release their maps?

>>6232653
also try sorting by release date because most of the wads after 2015 don't have enough ratings for stars to appear.

>>6232364
Much appreciated. Though any slight difference irks me quite a bit.

>>6231797
>>6231803
>that god awful hud scaling
either turn so it fills up the screen or get fullscreen_huds

Is it feasible to create a convincing illusion of spinning using a complex texture like this? It gets all distorted

>>6231776
the QC model rips were updated yesterday
Update: Feb 27, 2020

New renders are in! The link above leads to the new Imgur album now, though the old one can be viewed here, for posterity.
Updated glass for Ranger's common, and Clutch's common, uncommon, and rare outfits (the former of which I'm not entirely satisfied with but it works okay)
Colored specular for Clutch's uncommon and rare outfits
Removed the "PBR Specular" nodegroup from BJ's outfits to keep things consistent with all of the other models
Removed a few duplicate pieces from Visor's lore and Scalebearer's uncommon sets
Removed the autosmoothing on Death Knight's lore sword
Added the textures for Sorlag's upcoming "Mecha Sorg" outfit that will hopefully be fully available when the Spring battle pass season hits

Is there any way to automatically launch a console command when launching gzdoom from the command line?

>>6232706
Depends on how convincing. Make the circumference a multiple of the texture length, and don't use too many linedefs and it looks passable i.mo.

>>6232728
Yes. Point toward an autoexec in your settings file.

>>6232731
How many linedefs would I need to make it round? I think at least 20.

After posting I got the idea of simply turning pillars into walls touching the shaft, now nobody will see that it doesn't link up and it looks much better. But then I deleted the whole thing because it didn't fit the area.

Fps games i hate: Goldeneye, Half Life, Quake 2, Serious Sam, COD, Halo, CS, FEAR, Nu Doom.

>>6232706
depending on which format you are using a polyobject would work.

>>6232738
I respect that. Although I honestly believe the first Cod and Medal of Honour were fine games.

>>6232739
Alas, I am using regular Doom 2 and so it just a scrolling texture.

FPS games I hate: *

Any good strife mods?

I hate everything.

>>6232738
Good for you, I guess?

>>6232742
I mostly remember the first MoH for cool little stuff like enemy dogs fetching grenades for their owners, and certain soldiers sacrificing themselves to cover their pals from the blast.

>>6232735
The problem is (as you found out) loading up on tiny linedefs for a small pillar causes distortion since there are no half-length pixel linedefs in vanilla. So pythagoras kind of freaks out.
You could either make a smaller pillar with 10-16 sides, or a larger pillar with more linedefs.
Doom isn't really the game for this type of "thing" beyond basic decor, truth be told.

>>6232763
This poster is a jew.

>>6232763
My intention to make a generator, since the theme of this area is radio tower/power plant. Breaking the surface in pieces by adjacent walls successfully prevented visible distortion, although it no longer looks as cool as I wanted.

diabotical is fucking fun

>>6232565
He didn't like the puzzles

>>6232773
it's actually not dumbass

>>6232782
ok bro :)

>>6232748
no if i recall correctly the scripting in that game makes mods fucky.
this might have changed in recent history through.

>>6232767

>>6232798
That's a shame

The only metal bands I know are the radio tier ones (Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Metallica).
What are some /doom/ approved metal bands?

>>6232617
Everything in the OP is stuff that people played an enjoyed. If you want something particular (e.g. vanilla-tier difficulty, pretty visuals, new weapons) ask, but just requesting "good stuff" will always have you pointed towards the OP or the cacowards since they are repositories of "good stuff" made exactly for people like you.

>>6232812
Slayer
DRI
S.O.D
Suicidal Tendencies
Mr. Bungle

Is there any way to play Dark Arena from the GBA, but on PC?

>>6232748
Weapons Of Rebellion

>>6232812
pantera
alice in chains
symphony x

bobby prince and pwad approved

>>6232812
Megadeth
Type O Negative
AC/DC

>>6232812
Gonna list off a bunch of metal, rock, and punk, not saying you're gonna love them all, but they have at least some songs which are suitably Doomy. Many of these were sampled for Doom and Doom 2, the unused set of tracks, or Final Doom, etc.

>Nine Inch Nails (You may be familiar with NIN from Quake, and E4M1)
>Alice In Chains (Doom 2 sampled a bunch from the Dirt album, which is apex depression/misery core, in the best of ways)
>Megadeth (basically Metallica 2)
>Ministry
>Body Count (bridges the gap between metal, punk, and rap, and if it's anyone who could do that it's Ice-T, has a really good guitarist named Ernie C.)
>45 Grave
>Accept (their earliest stuff was them trying to ape AC/DC hoping it would be successful, they finally took off when they decided "Fuck it, let's do the music we want to do!")
>Anthrax
>Saxon
>Stone Temple Pilots (some people hate these guys)
>Entombed
>Blue Öyster Cult
>Sodom
>Pantera
>Twisted Sister
>Wumpscut
>Rage Against The Machine
>W.A.S.P ("Knulla som en best? Som ett vilddjur.")
>King Crimson (not strictly metal, but has some very nice guitar going)
>Joe Lamont
>Overkill
>Buckethead (recently featured in Sigil, also collabs with other bands and artists at times)
>Dimmu Borgir (their cover of Twisted Sister's Burn In Hell is arguably just as good as the original)
>Rob Zombie
>Diamond Head ("Am I eviiiil? Yes I aaaam.")
>The Sisters Of Mercy (Eric Alm's Scythe 2 samples their music, a lot)
>Alice Cooper (has a shitlong career which spans a wide variety of music, and some heavy substance abuse, his 70s, 80s, 90s, and 2000's stuff is a lot more metal oriented, but a lot of his older stuff is pretty solid too)
>Kane Roberts (was Alice Cooper's guitarist for a while, has some great music on his own, and some bitchin' guitars shaped like machineguns, often fitted with pyrotechnics for live shows)
>Merciful Fate

>>6232819
Good fucking stuff.

>>6232919
Don’t forget Nirvana.

>>6232919
> rob zombie
the only song i remember from flat out 2

>>6232927
Never listened to them.

>>6232929
Was it Dragulaaaaaa?

>>6232930
How can you be alive and never have heard Smells Like Teen Spirit not even by accident

>>6232935
I've heard that one, but I wasn't particularly drawn in by it.

>>6232491
thanks, i'll be sure to check it out

>>6232937
How about their cover of David Bowie’s The Man Who Sold The World?

>>6232951
I haven't actually listened much to Bowie either.

I don't think I'm a bad enough dude to continue.

>>6232919
Pretty solid list, anon. I've been listening to a lot of W.A.S.P lately, they're great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mseNUZat7A4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wp8CyjbMJQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjxZe_Dxm1M

>>6232728
https://zdoom.org/wiki/Command_line_parameters#Other_options

>>6232812
Budgie

>>6232554
>The Ultimate Torment & Torque

Is there any way to get the level select on pc like 1&2 have for console?

reminder that this thread is sponsored by Charlie and her stupid fucking hotel

>>6233027
>on pc
What port?

>>6232998
I'm trying to execute a command from a mod. Doing the +command method doesn't work with non-vanilla CCMDs.
This command works fine except for executing ve_activate
gzdoom -iwad iwads/DOOM2.WAD -file SmoothDoom.pk3 fullscrn_huds.pk3 Vanilla\ Essence\ 4.3.pk3 -file pwads/scythe/SCYTHE.WAD +ve_activate

>>6233045
>what port
Any

>>6233027
Doom? Most frontends like Rocket Launcher and ZDL let you select the map. If you are using GZDoom you can use the console to each map as well. Type, without quotation marks, "map map01" to go to the first level if it's using Doom 2 naming styles or "map e1m1" for original Doom. Some wads DO use totally custom names though, mainly for secret maps.

>>6232954
>Scythe with HD

Yeah, good luck. IIRC someone was working on a wad that dynamically alters enemy counts per map based on several selectors to help make more wads friendly with gameplay alterations that scale down your power level, but that was a few months ago and I forgot the name of it.

>>6233069
To be fair, before that map, Scythe is actually simple enough to work well with HD.

I did it! I'm so happy holy shit

>>6233106
Very good, Anon.

>>6233108
Thank you!
I'll take a small break and try some even harder wad, just not sure which. It's been real fun slowly learning all the maps

>>6233117
i don't know about harder but hell revealed is on a similar level and has rise of the triad's music

>>6233124
>rise of the triad's music
Sold

>>6233128
the music comes on a separate .wad so you could pretty much play it with anything you want

>the Archville is a hipster
This is canon now

>>6233150
And the Pain Elemental is a grumpy old man.

>>6233150
>"What IPAs do you have on tap"
>All the zombies I have under my command are cruelty free, I revived them myself"
>"The doomslayer is yet another representation of human demonism, and it really shows how insecure they are in their ability to keep up in the modern world"
>"So I got this meme off of reddit. I think it's pretty good, got some upvotes..."

>>6233150
Garbage. Ruined. Fuck zenimax.

>>6233150
so... what about a classic skin with the mouth tubes and all?

>>6232032
And I’m all out of kick ass
god I miss kitty

>>6232535
Hey guys! Ever heard of Brutal Doom J?

Is the Super Shotgun based after any specific double barrel model?

>>6233218
> just binged the elliot series yesterday
damn...

>>6233230
The what now?

>>6233150
>Let's appeal to forenite kiddos who won't even play our game

>>6233250
How is this Fortnite

>>6233250
>making fun of hipsters is a zoomer thing
this is the level of contrarianism we are on now, hating easter eggs and jokes. Doom was so serious with its hidden nazi levels and quit messages right?

>>6233150
it better has some fucking pirates

>>6233106
>second person today I've seen finish plutonia (or at least go 2 it) for the first time
It's a weird feel but a good one.

Speaking of Plutonia, is 2 (or Revisited) worth playing?

>>6231803
Clearly, since you're still running GZDoom 3.2.4.

Is it weird I play with freelook but keep autoaim on?

>>6231946
Good. Now drop your pants, bend over, and be ready to receive like a good Romero bitch.

>>6232306
I'm glad they ditched the bayonet. It's a sci-fi, not WW1 shooter.

>>6232386
>wad called Lost Civilization
>large, non-linear maps
>complains about getting lost
It's part of the experience.

>>6233337
yes and yes
though i like prcp better

>>6233357
It also looks weird. Two knives for a bayonet is a bit strange in my opinion.

>>6233365
>PRCP
My man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWYAue_uxMA

>>6233373
Have @ It

>>6233150
Haha, great meme Bethesda. Needs some DOOT and Daisy to be truly EPIC though!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2x1dVkTdvc
Go 4 It

>>6233382
There's the pre-order skin of the Revenant with DOOT trumpet shoulder launchers, and a framed photo in the game of the Doom Slayer with Daisy though

>>6231991
Na nana boo boo

>>6233272
if grognards had any semblance of self awareness they wouldn't be grognards.

>>6233373
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6_MfFIMQKg
personally my absolute favourite song of the wad
and the map itself is good too

>>6233343
It's the latest version, I just installed it in the same folder I was using before I updated.

>>6233349
not weird but perhaps slightly foolish
autoaim plays havoc with rockets

If you believe in Doom Guy, copy and paste this in every thread. Don't just ignore this because in the Korax it says you accept It, it will accept you in front of His BFG 9000 in the Gates of Hell. This is the simplest test. If you love Double Shotgun and you not ashamed of it, copy this and past it in your server.

>>6233382
You do know Daisy is from classic Doom right? Doom has always been tongue-cheek and cartoony. And this is coming from a guy who played it back on the 90s. Going to literal Hell with actual guns to kill demons used to be hilarious thought. Now so many games and media has done it, that it has turned into acceptable as serious part of story. Hell, I thought that Doom 3 took itself too seriously, which made it less Doom.

Also that's just multiplayer skin, and not part of the campaign. If we would have had multiplayer skins back then, the old id would have made no doubt made something as goofy as that.

>>6232812
All thrash, speed and groove metal.

>>6233579
>Doom has always been tongue-cheek and cartoony

nah

>>6233585
Anon the game is named after a fucking pool cue, it's inspired by the dev's D&D sessions, and it's pretty obvious they didn't take themselves very seriously if you read the post-episode text crawls.

>>6233586

>>6233585

>>6232554
Do zdoom forums still have a ~1day cooldown between registering and being able to post so that BD kiddies would be forced to look at the index (and a giant sticky for them at the top) instead of immediately flooding every subforum with Brutal Doom questions? I remember it being the case when I registered.

>>6233591
>le no u xdddd

>>6233585
>you are killing demons with guns in mars
>you are killing demons with guns in hell
>one of the guns is named big fucking gun 9000
>chainsaw is homage to evil dead
>death sounds consist of wilhelm screams
>you can see imp's asshole when it dies
>one of the bosses (and later enemy) is a cyberdemon, a hybrid of demon and robot
>one of the bosses brain on robot legs as a homage of classic b-scifi movies
>end boss of Doom 2 is John Romero
>story of 4th is you avenging the death of your pet rabbit
>Mancubus is called fatty in game files
>you collect potions and helmets to restores health and armor
Yes. It was quite cartoony. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

The trickster is a gay.

Post works that please the master builder.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHCmzvzCmhI

>>6233620
>you are killing demons with guns in mars
whats cartoony about that?
>you are killing demons with guns in hell
whats cartoony about that?
>one of the guns is named big fucking gun 9000
never actually called that in game, also the sci-fi weapon thats a codename with numbers isn't cartoony, its just sci-fi.
>chainsaw is homage to evil dead
whats cartoony about that?
>death sounds consist of wilhelm screams
90% of doom is stock sound fx, also does this make any game that use stock sfx cartoony?
>you can see imp's asshole when it dies
whats cartoony about that? also it might just be a inconveniently placed shadow.
>one of the bosses (and later enemy) is a cyberdemon, a hybrid of demon and robot
whats cartoony about that?
>one of the bosses brain on robot legs as a homage of classic b-scifi movies
whats cartoony about that? You said it yourself, its a homage to classic sci-fi.
>end boss of Doom 2 is John Romero
no the end boss is the icon of sin, you never see the hidden dev head
>story of 4th is you avenging the death of your pet rabbit
and duke watches oprah, also whats cartoony about that?
>Mancubus is called fatty in game files
whats cartoony about that?
>you collect potions and helmets to restores health and armor
whats cartoony about that?

you seem to be greatly confused with "cartoony" and "it a video game"
Yes Doom is a video game and therefore has video game logic attached to it, its not emulating a cartoon or cartoon aspects. When doomguy is shot he doesn't realistically and instantly die because it would make the gameplay rather shitty, not because he is trying to be a bugs bunny cartoon character.

>>6233620
>you are killing demons with guns in mars
As opposed to killing demons with what in a sci-fi setting?
>you are killing demons with guns in hell
Thematic continuation of the above.
>one of the guns is named big fucking gun 9000
A nickname given by UAC marines. Perfectly in line with the story.
>chainsaw is homage to evil dead
Ok
>death sounds consist of wilhelm screams
Which ones? I don't hear that annoying meme scream when playing Doom.
>you can see imp's asshole when it dies
If 3 black pixels look like an asshole to you, I won't judge.
>one of the bosses (and later enemy) is a cyberdemon, a hybrid of demon and robot
Cool concept in line with the sci-fi/horror setting.
>one of the bosses brain on robot legs as a homage of classic b-scifi movies
Thematic continuation of the above.
>end boss of Doom 2 is John Romero
No, it's the head of a giant cybernetic demon that spawns monsters. The in-joke among the devs is hidden and not part of the core experience.
>story of 4th is you avenging the death of your pet rabbit
One sentence in E4's text does not define the entire story of E4. Also, E4 is a low-effort, non-canon, thematically inconsistent set of maps.
>Mancubus is called fatty in game files
Reaching really hard with dev in-jokes.
>you collect potions and helmets to restores health and armor
This part is thematically inconsistent with the otherwise hard sci-fi/horror setting of classic Doom.

>>6233640
>>6233641
>whats cartoony about that?
>whats cartoony about that?
>whats cartoony about that?
>whats cartoony about that?

You're definitely a huge cartoon. The whole Looney Tunes collections. You put Bugs Bunny to shame.

>>6233653

nah

>>6233659
Wow you won that exchange

>>6233667

yup

>>6233675

>death sounds consist of wilhelm screams
They're stock sound effects of camels for a bunch of the low enemies. Meme scream isn't there.
>story of 4th is you avenging the death of your pet rabbit
story of the 4th is the lead in to Doom 2. You left hell and found the beginning of the Earth invasion, daisy was the joke dressing that up.
Clssic Doom's action slock and B grade horror more than a cartoon. They kept the major joking around confined to after screens, general gameplay is played straight. External's got jokes too, but they mostly seem to be confined to multiplayer skin shit and advertising where they don't matter. We'll see when it comes out if they managed to fuck up the campaign. It's near Bethesda so the odds are good.

Anybody have any experience with the Unity port of Ultima Underworld?

>>6233691
No, but I imagine it being terrible just for using Unity as the base engine.

>>6233640
>bugs bunny cartoon character.
I'm not talking about any Looney Tunes stuff, but that 80s black horror comedy action movies stuff.

>>6233681
>Clssic Doom's action slock and B grade horror more than a cartoon.
But there is exactly that cartoony black humor in movies like Braindead, Evil Dead 2, Army Of Darkness and Return Of The Living Dead for example. I see Doom in more line with them like serious space horror like Alien and Event Horizon. Doom 3 had lot of that Event Horizon vibe, but not classic Doom that much.

Like in where those 80s movies, they have all that horror, story, action and gore done well, but they always have that tongue-in-cheek and cartoony non-serious vibe. Same with Doom. And that's what makes it great.

does anyone here feel like trying out my doom map?

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/g-i/gothicspace

i uploaded it last summer but it doesn't look like anyone has played it. it's the first map i've published and while it's very linear i'm pretty happy with the theme and encounters

>>6233712
i should probably include a screenshot

>>6233230
don't you have an el papel to write

What am I missing? It doesn't load in glboom+ at all.

>>6233714
The scale of your map feels a bit off; from the big empty courtyard to the super long and wide corridors later on. Most (classic) maps try to be more compact.

>>6233721
i only tested it with zandronum and gzdoom. no idea
>>6233723
i wanted to show the scale of the place in the beginning but i should probably have made the playable area smaller and more detailed

>>6233735
I should have specified. My screenshot was from GZDoom. Same thing happens in ZDoom.

>>6233741
that's strange, i just tried playing it in the latest version of gzdoom and it works fine. i'm not sure what i would have done wrong to cause that

>>6233704
>tongue-in-cheek and cartoony non-serious vibe
Where I am that's know as cheesy rather than cartoony, but I think we're saying the same thing. You have your action and end of the world plot, but also over the top one liners and rule of cool.

>>6229126
>>6229158
If you're still alive, go to the prboom+ cfg file. Scroll down to mouse settings, and set
>mouseb_forward 2
to
>mouseb_forward 0
While you're there, set usegamma to 0. Have fun.

Holy shit fuck this room. That was nuts.

>>6233229
Adrian probably just drew it based on double-barrel shotguns he had seen in movies, with no specific one in mind.
This old hammerless Stoeger with cut down barrels would probably fit the bill though. Assume the single trigger trips both sears at once or something, and that the lockwork is reinforced to handle that.

The Super Shotgun is painted from scratch, basically, but the rest of the guns are digitized toys, the pistol is a squirtgun shaped like an M9, spraypainted black, the shotgun is a Tootsie Toy Dakota, the chaingun is a Tootsie Toy "Ol' Painless", the plasma is the front end of a vaguely M60 shaped toy, the BFG is a Creatoy raygun, eventually with the plasma's muzzle fitted to it (the raygun also had tons of greebling on it which they turned into wall textures).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSwqnR327fk

>>6233761
That room is only the beginning, expect a bunch more like it along the way. I hope you like frogs.

>>6232251
Here's the updated version with bug fixes and better framerate.
https://archive.org/download/tershibbolethpart2rev2/Ter%20Shibboleth%20Part%202%20Rev2.zip

How do I handle variable F_SKY1 ceiling height? I figured out I can't have roof lower than sky behind it (Lest it would disappear) but what can I do to avoid it?

>>6233641
>If 3 black pixels look like an asshole to you, I won't judge.
Actually in Doom64 the asshole had more pixels and looked much more like asshole.

>>6233887
That's the power of the Reality Signal Processor

>I bet if I make light above this pile of crates blink synchronously, it would look cool.

I have LzDoom
Is there a better sourceport?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFWRkj0UQKM

If this wasn't scrapped it probably would have sold millions of copies and Doom would never have returned to it's roots

>>6233761
SS is 90% slaughter

>>6233964
>Doom would never have returned to it's roots
It didn't

>>6233860
The frogs aren't so bad. Group 'em up, rocket launch. It was the kleers + the damn frogs.
>>6233965
Oh I've no delusions. I know what SS is.

>>6233964
>returned to it's roots
When did it do that

>>6233964
>and Doom would never have returned to it's roots
A-anon have you ever played Doom?

>>6233964
>it probably would have sold millions of copies
No it won't. It would have ruined the saga.
>Doom would never have returned to it's roots
No it didn't.

>>6231975
Why do you even care anyway? If people are truly interested in classic Doom mods, then they're going to persevere and figure out how to load mods properly.

Seriously, who cares if some tech-illiterate kids or boomers can't get into Doom.?

>>6233150
wut

>>6233620
>>6233586
Classic Doom may have had some goofy moments, but it was certainly more tonally consistent than nuDoom. Most modern games seem to have serious problems with tone in general.

>>6233998
Classic Doom had a tone?

>>6234000
Yes? Are you really going to be so obtuse as to say that Id wasn't trying to make the game at least somewhat atmospheric?

Civvie liked Doom 2016 suck it classic faggots.

Why does that matter?

>>6233408
Good taste, Anon.

>>6234001
I don't think Doom was really advanced enough to to look like anything and tone is mostly in your head. It definitely over-the-top violent and lack in any serious drama or serious scares.

>>6234006
And?

>>6234027
You're totally overlooking the music, though. I also think that you don't give people's imagination enough credit when it comes to primitive games like Doom.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKHOiTE_2sM

>>6234006
Never understood why people like him. He feels so forced with his voice and shitty jokes.

>>6234036
I've always thought the intro for Nobody Told Me About Id was appropriately epic as the theme for the Cyberdemon despite its primitive midi tech. It's quite stellar, actually. And then those drums.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iIrg4DM078
>Doom didn't have a tone

>>6234000
>maybe if I act like I didn't get it, people will think I'm right

Doom had great atmosphere.

>>6234051
Why Crispy over PRBoom+? Just curious. PRB+ does me nicely.

>>6234054
primarily because prboom+ has some mouse lag issues for me, and I also think Crispy looks nicer, and has more customization options. If I want to play a Boom/MBF wad I have to use Doom Retro, but I'd like if prboom+ stopped being a bitch.

>>6234051
One of the hanging bodies are literally based off of the hanging of Mussolini, and several other Italian Fascists.

>>6234059
Hmm, how do you fix the sound? The drums and bassier noises get cut off before they finished in my Crispy Doom. In fact I'm pretty sure that's why I went to PRB+

>>6233585

>>6234067
Not an argument.

Is that retard seriously still going?

>>6233586
>post-episode text crawls
>they use the word gibitude

>>6233620
Don’t forget that the Imps sound like camels.

>>6234074
I guess that means that any movie or game that uses obvious pig sounds for monsters can't be serious either, right?

If you wanna play a tongue-in-cheek cartoony wad, try Kama Sutra.

>>6233964
doesn't even look like a follow up to doom 3
they could have just made an expasion to that one fixing some of its problems and executing some of its parts better

>>6234052
not the same thing but still kinda neat

was wondering what is the hud or wad shown in the war trophies screenshot, anyone?

>>6234116
DoomRL Arsenal

>>6234027
>It definitely over-the-top violent and lack in any serious drama or serious scares.
Absolutely retarded opinion

>>6234120
bless you

>>6233971
>>6233983
>>6233986
Doom 2016 was fast-paced fps with retro elements and had some unlinear maps with secret areas, Doom would have been slow-spaced horror fps with complete linearity (just like Doom 3). Doom 2016 does have it's problems, but acting like it's the worst thing ever done to Doom is over-dramatic. We could have gotten something far worse. It was fun playing through Doom 2016 at once. If it would have like that prototype, I would have never bothered to buy it.

>>6233860
In my nightmares I see that room

>>6234152
>Doom would have been slow-spaced horror fps
Obviously meant Doom 4.

>>6234079
They rarely are. Sounds like b-movie. And Doom has just that b-movie vibe.

>>6234152
>retro elements
Like what?
>unlinear maps
top kek
>acting like it's the worst thing ever done to Doom is over-dramatic.
nobody said that. People just disagree with you it returned to it's roots.

>>6234152
Whatever it is, good or bad, Doom16 is not a return to roots. It's a Painkiller clone, level design goes out the window in favor of locked arenas, nevermind the fact that a game with 0 mod-ability could never claim to be a true successor to the game with the oldest and one of the most active modding scenes still going decades later. If you like it then more power to you, but don't pretend that it is a return to the design sensibilities of the original Doom.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1kXYFjduXQ&t=537s

>>6234170
>08:54
Shit