/vr/ - Retro Games

Yeah, it was gay, just like the first time

I'm not the best person to ask desu, its prety much in my top 10 games of all time so im biased as fuck.

>>6208512

I played it somewhat recently on a whim though not because of the remake.

>Did it hold up?
Im gonna say YES. Mostly. It's got some issues, but I think there's one thing it does very, very well. If nothing else, it's VERY good at keeping the player in the know of what they're doing and why it's important all without hammering us over the head with a bunch of stupid as fuck bullshit.

You know right off the bat who Avalanche and Shinra are. You know why you need to stop them. You know who all our heroes are and what they're about. You know who Sephiroth is and why he's bad. You basically get an idea of what Jenova is but know why she's bad. You know who the Ancients are, you know what materia is, you know what the weapons are.

I think this part of what helped make it so popular (After the HUGE add push) it's all very digestible. There's some plot issues, but you have a very strong forward sense of momentum as you chase the bad guy and every action you take (Outside of getting distracted by chocobos) has a clear and obvious goal or significance.

I found it easy and short. Lots of nostalgia for me but I was still a bit let down. I had more fun replaying 4.

>>6208504
I loved it to death when I was 12. It's a game for 12 year olds. In this regard, it still holds up of course, why the heck not? From an adult perspective, it's a laughably stupid story told via an insultingly amateurishs cript, and gameplay is unlosable snoozefest and an utter afterthought. Thank god I played Square JRPGs back when Iw as a kid, because these days I'd quit something like FFVII or Xenogears laughing after an hour and never come back, never experiencing the good things these games have on offer, including the amazing soundtracks.

>>6208527
It's interesting going through the story as an adult versus going through it as a 12 year old. You might appreciate it differently, I did.

>Thank god I played Square JRPGs back when Iw as a kid, because these days I'd quit something like FFVII or Xenogears laughing after an hour and never come back
What are you playing now?

>>6208504
Holds up pretty well

i mean if you've played the entirety of DQ and FF games

you'd realize that for FF the NES games (1, 2,3) are legit garbage and don't hold up at all.

and the SNES games (4, 5, 6) are just that generic but really fun. 6 stands out tho, but it has a bunch of retarded shit, that no one tells newcomers about because only fanboys play it. But there are a bunch of dumb and annoying shit in FF6, despite being pretty impressive visually.

As for the PS1 games. The really went at it with 7. The music, the setttings, the characters, the materia system. Its just a fun game that doesn't bog u down with retarded shit. Granted the combat is pretty fuckin braindead, but thats because the materia system is so easy to break. Thats actually the fun part.

FF8 is trash and dumb to smoke.

FF9 is a lot more linear, but its as comfy as u can get. The combat takes a long time, and the system is dumb, but the Equip system is great and much more balanced than fuckin Materia.

FF10, tho linear. But come the fuck on. All the FF games aren't really that open to begin with. Literally all the games put you in an open field with only 1 other destination to arrive at. Maybe a sidequest location in-between. But lets not pretend FF games are known for their sprawling open-endedness. FFX is maximum comfy, and the best battle system in the franchise. Bosses require actual thought, and proper strategies to win.

FF12 is so boring that they had to add a fast-forward button. But great set pieces and art direction tho.

Also DQ games are legit generic trash aside from DQV and DQ8. Its a mystery how the fuck Japan as a country is so indoctrinated into liking such a unimaginative franchise.

>>6208531
like the rest of the gaming community...

not JRPGs

>>6208540
breaking the materia system was a lot of fun, when you figured out certain combos and tricks you'd just wreck shit, just like in my animes

>>6208504
It was great, just like the first time.

>>6208523
>I think this part of what helped make it so popular (After the HUGE add push) it's all very digestible. There's some plot issues, but you have a very strong forward sense of momentum as you chase the bad guy and every action you take (Outside of getting distracted by chocobos) has a clear and obvious goal or significance.
big agree, I always felt like I had something important to do and figure out next. Very little wandering around without a goal; even when the map opened up a lot.

The dungeons really suck BBC.

>>6208504
>many years after
>lol

I play FF7 all the way through at least once a year and have been doing so since the game launched in '97.

>What was it like?

Fucking amazing..

>does it hold up

I like to think so, yes.

>>6208504
The remake of 7 is going to be absolute garbage mechanically, but I am looking forward to the porn.

>The remake of 7 is going to be absolute garbage mechanically, but I am looking forward to the porn

>>6208504
That's not retro.

>>6208901
Nice post bro, you got me with the soijak.

>>6208540
DQ1-4 and FF1-3 don't hold up because you have no imagination.

>>6208901
If the gameplay of ff13 and ff15 are any indication, the game will indeed be garbage mechanically. Of course, you defending this and posting that wojak mean that you're a zoomer from /v/. Go back.

i'm gonna play it again once i finish my ex2pg run in ix

I played it back when Advent Children came out (2005?). Many years had already passed by that point.

It was alright.

I've been playing it for the first time and not enjoying it at all, really. I don't know why. I enjoyed chronotrigger and Mother3, and I've played FF6 and thought it was OK.

Something about the entire experience just doesn't click with me. I don't find the characters compelling except for Cloud, I don't find the art style at all appealing or interesting (and I don't have a problem with games from the era, I enjoy the look of OOT and Baldur's Gate), and while it's not too slow with fast forward turned on occasionally, I never feel like it's actually diverting enough to hold my complete attention even when I try.

The gameplay might be the real problem. I find the combat pretty stressful. I never know what they enemies will do, or what they'll be weak to (Sense materia doesn't seem to reveal every weakness), and the status effects are obscure enough that I have to look up exactly how they work. I can't really see any numbers, so I have to pay a bunch of attention to what everybody's health is doing and how much damage attacks do instead of being able to reference things at a glance. I hate how the camera sometimes makes it hard to target enemies, and how you can target your allies as easily as you enemies if you push the wrong button. The worst part is the timer. I hate sitting there waiting for a gauge to fill, then firing off a move as fast as possible so the enemy doesn't get free hits in. It makes me feel like I don't have time to think things through.

I want to enjoy it, but I've put in about 15 hours and it's just not fun. What am I missing?

>>6208504
I haven't played it super recently, but I did replay it a few years ago. It holds up fantastically and, in my opinion, totally deserves its perception in the public eye as the best Final Fantasy (even if some of the other titles give it stiff competition). The setting is overflowing with personality which is helped a lot by some gorgeous pre-rendered backgrounds, the music is fantastic, and the plot has some legitimately interesting twists and turns even aside from the big one that everyone talks about. Honestly, I think Cloud has the most compelling arc of any Final Fantasy protagonist.

The Materia system is also great, but this does bring to mind my biggest criticism of the game, which is that it's just way too easy. Here you have this very intricate system that you can toy with and manipulate to produce tons of interesting effects, but you really never need to go beyond basic offensive magic and physical attacks/the occasional Limit Break unless you deliberately make an effort to stay super low level. But this is a problem common to almost every mainline FF title and, really, to JRPGs as a whole, and from what I understand, there are some mods out there like New Threat which raise the difficulty to a reasonable level. Maybe I'll give that a shot sometime.

But overall, yeah it fucking rules. It stands out even during an era which I think was very kind to JRPGs.

you motherfuckin fuckin zoomers leave this thread

>>6208962
You're not playing the game, you're obsessing over your autism. You're stressed about free hits and numbers but how often have you died or come close? It's not a hard game for the most part. If you're just scraping by grind a couple of levels and keep going. It's not important to know the weaknesses of basic bitch enemies you can wipe out in a round of attacks. Bosses you can just hit hard or use summons. Try to enjoy the game, not your personal checklist of playing it perfectly.

>>6208989
But I want to experience everything and not be GIMPED

>>6208812
Fucking based

Honestly, people who say its overrated can literally eat shit and I'd argue that they either didn't play it or don't like JRPGs to begin with. FFVII is a fucking treasure-- the best thing to come out of Japan since "YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO".

>>6209003
ironically people like you are the reason other people think it's overrated

>>6209003
>YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
boku no pico?

>>6208504
It was great. So much time had passed that there were sections of the game that I had lost all memory of and it was like playing them for the first time. Great game overall. Damn shame what they're doing to it with the zoomermake.

>>6209013
This... is true.

I can't help it, anon. I experienced FFVII at a tender age and everything about it utterly blew my mind. Just hearing the music nowadays is enough to remind me of how beautiful the whole thing is.

>>6209036
The zoomermake looks amazing. It doesn't look like they are intending to pull any punches with it.

>>6209042
it looks like bastardized garbage. It's not a remake so much as it's a completely different game that borrows some of the main story. They turned cloud getting a disguise into a LGBT broadway show and lecture about gay pride and genders, are you serious

>>6209076
> They turned cloud getting a disguise into a LGBT broadway show and lecture about gay pride and genders, are you serious

What??

>>6209076
lie

I'm just finishing my first playthrough of FF7 since I was a kid, so about 15 years later. I'd say it definitely holds up. Although I did play it on PC with the Reunion mod (new translation, updated character models, upscaled backgrounds) so it wasn't exactly the same.

The materia system is still great, and I thought the story wasn't as confusing as I remember it being, although it's not the greatest. I also finally got to beat Emerald Weapon which I never did as a kid, so I got that monkey off my back.

>>6208523
I wish I could do the Cosmo Valley portion again for the first time. Finding out the truth about Nanaki is one of the most moving moments in a retro video game.

>>6209315
What truth? That his dad died fighting off some enemies? Didn't find that too moving, seems like a stock character situation

>>6209324
Just the build up to it and how he thought his dad was a coward who ran from the village, but he died in the valley to protect cosmo canyon.

I still think FFVI had a more moving moment with Celes’ suicide when it played her opera theme as she leapt from the cliff.

>>6209093
>>6209096
What do you mean "lie"? Have you not seen it yet? This a screen from it where the gay queen leading the grand performance seduces cloud and gets him in a weird position and explains how genders don't matter.

>>6209362
>>6209096
>>6209093
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O88Y_E-Srg

skip to the ~1-minute mark.

>>6208543
>too scared to say what he's playing
lmao what a beta

>>6208504
I play it at least once a year, it's probably the dearest thing to me, perhaps only after close family/friends and my home
>>6208527
how is the story "laughably stupid"? and how is the script amateurish?
gameplay might not be for you but it's perfectly polished, has amazing game feel (weird thing to say for a jrpg but I can't get tired of simply using deathblow mega all with tifa for example, or how simple and responsive the menuing is), the fact that it's so easy is definitely a minus because the materia system is AMAZING and you're not given incentive to explore it much in a regular playthrough

>>6208512
Why do you like gay shit so much?

>>6208812
>cringe
see >>6208515

>>6208962
Only the weapons bosses are challenging. Otherwise, the game is cakewalk, like most FF games.

>>6208540
>The music, the setttings, the characters, the materia system

The materia system was trash. Only useful materia are the summons and healing types. Most of the time you would be using physical attacks and limit breaks.

Too many filler characters. Cait Sith, Yuffie, Vincent, and Cid are largely irrelevant to the main story. Cid was such an obvious shoehorned character.

The music was good. I'll give it that.

>>6209629
>The materia system was trash. Only useful materia are the summons and healing types.

Only annoying thing about replaying it is how easy it is by the standards of an already easy series. Most FF games have checks so that they aren't literally "press O to win" like 7 is.

Other than that, its amazing. The reveal of Cloud's true past gives me chills every time. Amazing graphics, amazing soundtrack, iconic setpieces.

>>6209367
I noticed this too. It doesn't bother me TOO much, despite being a lame copout to keep anyone's jimmies from getting rustled over any trans or gay "shaming" elements from the original script. But, this day and age, what can you do.

What bothers me is this faggot, this stylish yet laid back, almost as good or even good-er of as a fighter as Cloud who's from the same military Cloud's supposed to be from, enters the scene popping a wheelie on his motorcycle, fighting the MC only 'cuz he's bored from being so great all the time and loves "anyone who can give him a challenge" (direct quote from press material). Make a checklist of any 13-year old's fanfiction.net self-insert and this smarmy inkblot would fill every one.

>>6210041
They're really going rogue with the original story. Sephiroth has cat eyes now too. In the original story, Seph at first doesn't know that he's genetically different from other people but I don't know how they're getting around that bit with shit like this going on.

>>6209038
What I don't get is why it's so hard to take the step to realizing that the goodness comes from your bias and youthful ignorance, not from the game itself. Everyone and their mother raves about that one game that blew their mind as a kid, but rarely are the games even close as good as they remember. Come on, anon. You've got to overcome your cognitive biases. You've got to accept that FF7 is overall a solid game, but nothing amazing - outside of your memories.

>>6208504
back in 2012 I played FF7 after finding a brand new copy at FYE right before they went out of business, before that the last time I played it was in 1998

I remembered the game looking like crap even back in the day, but man it was really jarring just how crap the game looked

>>6208504
Replayed it a couple years ago and still loved it. I feel like playing it again sometime soon.

I won't say the materia system isn't flawed but it at least was straightforward and made sense.

VII always stands out to me because I had for such a long time, back when my Dad played he PS1. He bought it, but for whatever reason I never played it just the demo that came with Tobal No 1.
Anyways it still holds up, played it like two years ago. The materia system always keeps me from making progress, as I'll take a break for a week then come back and have to relearn the system a bit. Great story, I always knew about that "one thing", but seeing it for the first time and everything leading up to it was amazing.
VI is more fun tho

>>6210251
not that anon, but i genuinely think ff7 is an excellent game. the pacing is perfect, there's a shitload of minigames, the materia system is fun to experiment with, there's not much more you could ask for from an RPG. this insistence that people need to "admit the game they like isn't actually that great" comes from your zoomer blood: you literally can not understand what makes the game good, and you don't know how to interact with media without filtering it through ten layers of irony first.

>>6208890
This.
Even the OST is garbage, guess there's only so much they can do without Uematsu begin on board and not being able to straight up re-record his work.

Just don't get how they though "you know fits perfectly in a game of eco-terrorists in a oppressive techno-corporate dictatorship? Violins and choirs"

All these false-flag posts from guys who haven't even played FF7 or just hate the series. I love it!

>>6208812
KING!

FF7 was good then and its good now, in spite of its mandatory JRPG weirdo story.

I hope Pink Flower Girl gets slashed into bits this time.

>>6210508
I hope she still has sex with the dog

>>6208812
>I play FF7 all the way through at least once a year and have been doing so since the game launched in '97.
I do the same with VIII

>>6210530
>VIII
Nobody cares

>>6210508

I think they are going to move the death scene to a slightly different point. Kind of interesting seeing if they keep cloud beating the shit out of her at the temple of the ancients part.

>>6210531
I care. I wouldn't except a low IQ ff7 fan to understand.

>>6210145
those could just be the 'mako eyes' they refer to

>>6210508
I hope he performs a Mortal Kombat Fatality on her.

>>6208504
I played the first disc about 16 years ago, the only other FF I've played since are the two Tactics ones.
I've got copies of 7 and 8 though, should I play them in order? I'm vaguely aware there's no canon or overarching story to these games.

depends how much ya played it back in the day.

if you where like me, and spent a few thousand hours and beat it a few times as a kid u might get a little bored since you already remember everything to well.

and that's because its a very easy game, for an adult anyhow, specially if you know everything.

but still, the style and the art of that game is quite unique and I enjoy just looking at the stuff in it.

we use to make challenges like beat emerald weapon the first time you encounter him or whatever, that was fkin hard. friend of mine figured out how to kill ruby weapon.

was fun to try to max out the characters, tho I gave up, wanted to make barretts 64 attack hit 9's lol. would easily make him better than cloud.

beating that battle arena is fun.

if you've never beat everything, like that arena, all the mini games and the weapons, then yes its worth playing.

but since I did all that a ton of times, I was just sitting here thinking how bad I wanted to maby open up the computer version and try to code it and make the damn game harder.

maby try to find a way to let you fight 3x the amount of monsters, maby let it add in random monsters to fights, or maby just increase hp and damage of monsters a bunch.

I guess you could always just do stuff like not allow yourself to use hp+ and counter materia's, no knights, but even still, the early game will be easy reguardless of those things.

>>6210675
go back to the other website please

>>6210675
>that spacing

>>6208504
This is the reason I come back to ff7

>>6210717
Fuck, anon. That's hot.

I had a ton more fun now that I actually played around with materia instead of just throwing on as many green/summon materia as possible as a retarded child.

>>6208504
>>6210717
OH MY

>>6210295
Nah, that's pretty silly, and a lot of projecting on your part. The gameplay is easy and boring, a bad combination that plagues a lot of PS1 JRPGs. The story is fine, but wouldn't turn any heads in any other medium - it's only praised like it is here because a lot of people who play video games have low standards for story telling. What do you get when you mix an okay story with boring, easy gameplay? You get what you fucking deserve - an OK game that's not special.

Sorry that I'm not a zoomer who gets impressed by, uh, minigames? Yeah, have fun with those.

>>6210041
this guy screams Genesis-tier compilation faggotry

>>6210675
imagine being so retarded/deluded you think anyone is going to read all that reddit

>>6210717
>tfw no cow titted, otherwise slender, unshaven girlfriend

>>6209362
>>6209367
F

>>6209076
The scene is really fruity but it's not how you describe

>>6210145
As soon as I saw Sephiroth appearing in Cloud's visions in Midgar I knew this remake was fucked. What was an actual rather subtle handling of Cloud's delusions (especially for 97) is going to become hamfisted beyond all belief.

>>6211373
if you had any doubt that all the subtlety and cinematic brilliance of the original would be shed in the remake you're a complete pleb and a moron, a little child

>>6211732
>the subtlety and cinematic brilliance of the original
LMAO

>>6209629
The best materia in the game imo was the double cut

>>6211732
This. It will be so diluted to the point of losing all meaning, if not outright changed, in order to appeal to people who DO NOT play JRPGs and won't buy the remake, no less.

>>6211738
brainlet detected
some light reading to get you started
https://normallyrascal.wordpress.com/2015/01/30/final-fantasy-vii-camera-and-composition-part-3/

It held up but it wasn't as good as I remember it from my early teens. The music is still as great as ever the summons still look great too and Tifas boobs still bounce in the cutscenes like I remember

>>6211748
Command materia's especially fun because it stacks with elemental or added effect materia you have in your weapon. There's something extra satisfying about landing a successful Deathblow or Mug and seeing the enemy get poisoned or slowed on top of it.

>>6211769
I’m not reading your blog faggot.

>>6211893
so you have nothing of value to add to the conversation, you have no examples to compare against it, nothing to analyze not even any sources to cite you're just here to shitpost
pure cancer

>>6211895
How about you actually present some examples yourself instead of lazily linking an article written by someone else?

I liked Aeris as a boy. As a man I realized she was a manipulative whore who fell in love with any half cute guy that crossed her path and fucked Zack. She was a flighty annoying stereotypical anime waifu.

Tifa is implied to be something of a slut as well but at least she genuinely cares about Cloud and has a personality besides being a flawless princess.

Of course neither hold a candle to Yuffie who is the real best girl.

>>6210564
....whatever....

>>6211908
She's literally the worst. The only good thing would be that tight teen pussy. Otherwise, I've never seen such a worthless character, even for an optional one.

>>6211897
ok zoomer
here's an example off the top of my head
when cloud is punching the shit out of aeris and the camera is panned out way to the top of the temple to put a distance between you and what is happening and dissociate you from cloud's action to enforce the idea that something has gone completely wrong, the scenario has been flipped, the hero that you have been to some degree self-inserting into is doing something apalling
inversely during the segment where you control little cloud and "trying" to stop puppet cloud from giving the materia to sephiroth the camera is much closer
but I don't see why I PERSONALLY have to present the examples to prove a point, how is my argument DIMINISHED by resorting to another source, in this case of someone who has carefully dissected the game and presents a good analysis of it?
why don't you start posting examples of how ffvii's cinematography and handling of its themes and plot elements is bad?

>>6211908
you're an idiot and calling yourself a "man" after such a surface-level and meme-infused reading of the characters is really worrying
you don't sound like a mature adult to me at all
tifa and aeris are supposed to be an inversion of typical female tropes
tifa is the monk, the physical active character and she has a bar in the slums
but her character is actually very introverted, motherly, caring, sensitive
she has a fiery heart and is willing to fight for what she believes in but only at a push and she's not quick to express her feelings or share her opinion
aeris on the other hand on first glance is the "pure girl" trope, she's attuned with nature (the lifestream) and lives in a church, she's a white mage and sells flowers
but she's actually the much more extroverted one, very feisty and willing to take initiative and unwilling to compromise

tifa is also implied to be a virgin or at least very sheltered whereas aeris is very flirty, again following with that inversion
but that doesn't make her a whore any more than tifa is a prude, that's just a misogynistic surface reading

>>6211953
Back to resetera

>>6211971
don't know what that is sorry

>>6211908
>>6211953
and I'd like to add that if you think aeris is a whore because of how she's with cloud you paid zero attention to the game or it went over your head
she's not a love interest, she is only a tiny bit flirty as she would but overall displays a much deeper caring for him that almost rivals tifa's despite knowing him very little
when they're on the golden saucer ride she flat out tells him she wants to meet the REAL him, ie not Zack, not because she wants to romance him but because she cares about him as a friend and is worried about him, just like tifa
even tifa can be argued to have never really been "in love" with cloud, rather she grew to love him slowly, a much more realistic and deep kind of love than you usually get in videogames
they went from childhood friends, to comrades to lovers in a very natural and affecting way

>>6208812
Nice. I haven’t played it in 7 or 8 years and I’d like to play it again. I still listen to the soundtrack occasionally as well. There is something magical about that game that no other game of my childhood came close to matching.

>>6211985
No one likes autists like you. Go away.

>>6210717
I agree. Can't wait for a nude mod of Tifa to be released.

>>6212076
>care about something and want to discuss it
>wow fuck off autist you CARE about *THING*? can't you be a miserable nihilistic piece of shit like me?
fuck off zoomer

>>6212084
You absolutely REEK of REDDIT with how your faggot ass WRITES.
Go back ty.

>>6211908
I don't really get why people think Yuffie is best girl, I guess if you flat out just admitted to yourself that you only like her for her design and attractiveness but she unfortunately contributes practically nothing of any worth to the game's story, or even to her own story and home village for that matter. Hopefully that changes in the remake, because I did really want to like this character but she's just so uninteresting she might as well not be in the game at all.

That said, Elena is best girl

>>6208504
ye

>>6212271
>That said, Elena is best girl

She's basically proto Aya Brea but less awesome.

I replayed it last year, it was good : fast paced jrpg that dont distract your adventure with boring sidequests or super long dungeons. Fast combat when you set atb on active and fight gauge on maximum speed. Atmosphere and world are still very solid and I loved the tiny bits of NPC stories you can grab there and there.

Only downside was it's way to easy even without the best weapons, materias and weapons. Literraly a babbys first tier game.

>>6212347
>fast paced jrpg

This what's gonna bug me the most about the new one. It's gonna be so tedious. Oh it will be BIGGER but you're gonna be doing so much stupid chuff it's just bloat. The old FF7 had no shortage of side shit but it was all in the form of fun minigames and shit like that. Chocobo racing and breeding were neat ideas that had pay offs and rewards. You could get unique shit from Fort Condor. In the new one you're gonna SLOWLY walk around the city and get point for looking at food or something gay.

>>6212076
>>6212115
why can't nintoddlers stay in their own threads?

>>6212305
BAE!

>>6208531
>What are you playing now?
God Hand, Vanquish, the original Castlevania, Sekiro. Games that actually use their medium rather than being semi-interactie badly-written digital picturebooks.

>>6209373
>gameplay might not be for you but it's perfectly polished
There is no difficulty curve to speak of, so nothing matters. You just go through the motions. It's a toy rather than a game--a toy slapped on top of a bad cartoon.
>how is the story "laughably stupid"? and how is the script amateurish?
Circular dialogue, constant showing instead of telling, banalities presented as profound revelations.

>>6210031
>Only useful materia are the summons and healing types.
Care to elaborate on the usefulness of summons? Hades is OK for pairing with added status. Other than that, I'm not sure.

FF7? classic.
the secret ultimate weapons were pretty tough desu, at least when I was 15 and had no strategy guides/internet

i replay ff7 every few years. i've beaten for my 6th time on the ps1 classic this past summer. it's still lots of fun. it's why i'm baffled that anyone would go, "you know...ff7 was so awesome, let's remake it and change the game up." why the fuck...

>>6212271
>she's just so uninteresting she might as well not be in the game at all.
Well, she meant to be the optional character and it showed.

>>6208504
It honestly wasn't even great back in the 90s. But without the overwhelming screeching drone of fans it's actually not as bad as i remembered it.

>>6212794
it's because of how the movie and all those shitty sidestory gaidens completely changed the original story. By remaking the game with all the cancer retconned and added into it, it legitimizes it all. Zack being the real hero of it all, the Jenova's Witnesses from AC, shades mutt Barrett, Asian Tifa, super stylish leather & zippers Cloud, moe girl Turks, transformer buster sword that's like 15 smaller swords for some reason, ALL OF IT. It's being turned into a landfill of cringe and horrible ideas.

>>6208962
>The combat is stressful

What is it with zoomers and needing to be spoon fed everything? I know kids who will watch an entire playthrough of a game on YouTube before they'll ever play said game themselves because they find not knowing what to do next "stressful".

>>6212718
Hades is great against Ruby weapon. Besides that the summons are kind of useless.

>>6212794
Squaresoft died years ago. Square-Enix people are hacks now

>>6208917
Bro they are fucking boring grindfests. I and plenty others just domt have the time

>>6212489
Post screenshots larper

>>6212718
mime materia works with being able to spam Knights of the Round right? It's useful for Ruby weapon

>>6212896
>know kids who will watch an entire playthrough of a game on YouTube before they'll ever play said game
That's fucking crazy.

>>6212794
>why the fuck
You have two options for a remake. Faithful remake, which will primarily appeal to fans of the original (Spyro, Crash, Medievil remakes would be good examples of this) or you can do an extensive remake and attempt to bring the game to a new audience. They're still selling ports of FF7, so a faithful remake would directly compete with their existing sales. With an extensive remake, they can try to bring in the cinematic action audience, and hardcore fans will still probably buy it anyway just to see midgar in HD.
>>6212489
>original castlevania
Aged like milk, Bloodlines does everything better.
>vanquish
It's okay. I did my first playthrough last month, hard mode + no deaths for ARS Operator and Living Legend, and that feels like the wrong way to play. There's very few situations where using the great mobility the game provides is better than sitting in cover when enemies deal such high damage on Hard. If someone was going to play it today, I'd recommend Normal instead so you can play the game as it was meant to be played.
>>6213162
>mime+kotr
Yes, that works.

>>6208962
>The worst part is the timer. I hate sitting there waiting for a gauge to fill, then firing off a move as fast as possible so the enemy doesn't get free hits in.
Set ATB mode to Wait and the time gauge will stop whenever there's an attack animation or you're browsing your spells or selecting a target. The enemies also have a time bar and it stops as well. And Sense does afaik reveal every weakness but it won't say if they're strong against something.
Anyway what you want to do is just make sure you learn a bunch of enemy skills in the early and midgame. Magic and summon materia generally isn't worth it at all (there are some exceptions). Later in the game you just use physical attacks for everything.
>I can't really see any numbers, so I have to pay a bunch of attention to what everybody's health is doing and how much damage attacks do instead of being able to reference things at a glance.
If you press select during combat a small transparent window will be added on top of the HUD, in this hud you'll be able to see enemy HP without repeated scannings. Other than that the damage numbers are clearly and easily visible, are you playing on a buggy emulator or something?
>I hate how the camera sometimes makes it hard to target enemies, and how you can target your allies as easily as you enemies if you push the wrong button.
Yes the targeting is sometimes pretty garbo, but you get used to it. Generally you do not press left or right to target enemies despite it seeming natural to do so, you cycle through them with up and down. The select window does help with this too.
>I don't find the art style at all appealing or interesting
Tbf the non-combat 3d models are really fucking garbage and the 2d backdrops dont scale well to modern resolutions.
> I don't find the characters compelling except for Cloud,
Not even Sephiroth? The minor characters are pretty garbage though, the game is all about Cloud and Sephiroth.

>>6213162
Final Attack linked to Phoenix eventually makes you unbeatable. And KoTR is by far the highest damage you can get per turn without limit breaks.
The enemy skills are pretty great and highly useful, so is steal, manipulate, morph, slash-all and double cut. Purple materia is pretty good and MP turbo is pretty great for boosting KoTR until you have a maxed magic plus. Regen is a decent spell. Other than that they're all garbage.

>>6212794

Resident Evil had a good remake. If they just made another version of the game that was really good, it would be fine. The Final Fantasy remakes don't seem to generally do that though...

>>6208504
As someone who is super-into FF8 and its Junction system, how easy is it to transition from it to the Materia system?

>>6213335
Not at all, they're not comparable really.
You can link materia, and if you link a Fire materia to an Elemental materia in your weapon it's exactly like junctioning Fire to Ele-Atk, and if you do it in your armor it's exactly like Ele-Def. Added effect materia would be ST-Def/Atk. But other than that it's a completely different system and very different games, their only similarities is the turn based combat, a bunch of text boxes with the occasional cutscene to narrate the story, and some FF universe standards like spell and enemy names

>>6208504
As much as I love ff7, the story is the fucking worst. I thought it was just a badly rushed translation but no it's actually that intelligible.

The materia system is a horrible mechanic and just makes sure everyone is cloud.

That said they got somethings perfect like cloud's story arc which breaks the 4th wall in that it he finds out he's just a pleb with someone else's memories which works because you the player also thought he was a total badass.

Sepheroth is within the top 10 vidya villains, too bad you don't even see him in the game whatsoever until the very end which might as well be a story event because it's so fucking impossible you'll ever lose.

>>6214258
*unintelligible

>>6213335
The game does a poor job of letting you know but it actually punishes you for filling up the materia slots since it drops your attack.

The first summon in the game lets you attach wind which is OP as fuck.

>>6214258
>I thought it was just a badly rushed translation
because of a few meme typos? lmao get real

>>6214281
No, because ti does a shit job at actually telling the story.

>>6214281
It's funny because if it didn't have typos you wouldn't have artards running around calling a bastard sword the buster sword, or Claude instead of Cloud, or Bullet instead of Barrett.

>>6214409
>no specifics
explain how it does that and how you'd improve it? without being vague, as if you never played the game...

>>6214409
>ti
They can't do anything right except calculators

>>6214430
*no response*

Figures.

>>6214762
vr is slow ass board my dude

>>6214281
The "Sephiroth clone" mistranslation is confusing. It should be "Sephiroth copy", which correctly implies they're a (failed) attempt to recreate somebody with the powers of Sephiroth, not literally a clone of Sephiroth.

>>6214840
Nitpick troll?

>>6214851
No, people were genuinely confused by it, thinking "clone" meant "clone".

>>6214840
Zoomers and words. Always a good chuckle.

>>6214840
Either way it sounds goofy.

>>6213353
That was still a very good explaination nonetheless, thanks a lot.
>>6214273
So the best way to work with the materia is to find combinations that exceed the reduced damage (or deliver something that's worthy of the damage nerf like say, being able to give huge heals / buffs to your other characters).
How hard are the materias to find?
With 83 of those in the game, i'm sure there should be at least a few that shouldn't be too difficult to come across.