/vr/ - Retro Games

Here's my proof.

Any tips on getting my PS4 controller to work on the emulator I'm using (Turbo Engine)? It maps the run button to the L2 button, and that's it.

>>6209560
I had zero luck with turbo engine at all - it would repeatedly lock up when I would try to bind keys. I just use the Beetle core in retroarch.

Oh, forgot to make a strategy post.

Final Soldier carries over a lot of ideas from Star Soldier, including a focus on terrain destruction and secret bonuses. It even still has the eyes that you'll get an 80k bonus for destroying simultaneously, along with the bonus tiles (Bs in this case instead of Zs) that increase in value with each one you shoot. This time around, there are golden orbs that can be picked up for extra score if you destroy the glowing circles on the ground, along with a powerup that lets you use a bomb with the I button.

Don't forget that you can adjust your ship's speed with the select button - the three chevrons at the top right show you what speed you're currently at.

>CURRENT BOARDS
>2 MINUTE
516100 - Character O
>5 MINUTE
880100 - Character O

Killing enemies and enemy waves quickly is also critical. There are at least a couple enemies worth 40k a piece that seem to only show up if you have dealt with the previous waves fast enough, along with a miniboss that will give you I think 60k or 80k if you destroy it before it leaves.

>CURRENT BOARDS
>2 MINUTE
597600- Character O
>5 MINUTE
880100 - Character O

2 min
626100 - fug

quick killing the boss is hard as fuck. apparently its possible to get into the next area for 20 seconds or so
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFnVrzQCXg4

>>6210230
Good to see you, fug. Yeah, they drop a ton of bombs when they're close to death it seems, so I try to fly up as close as I can to penetrate the bullshit, but I also end up getting hit often.

>CURRENT BOARDS
>2 MINUTE
626100 - fug
625500- Character O
>5 MINUTE
880100 - Character O

>>6209560
Use mednafen

If anyone is playing until they get a good score before they upload, don't worry about it and just send what you've got. The more scores are on the board, the more people may be inspired to try, and you can still update your score with a better one later.

2 MINUTE
700200 - Cave owns bitch

https://streamable.com/dyv2w

Video if anyone wants to see. Goddamn this game is very fun, very fast paced and intense. Much better than the NES game in every way, only frustrating part is quick killing the mechs, but I think that will become less annoying with a bit more practice.

Some things to help people starting out :
>Large boxes with a red orb are worth 5000 points
>Each golden orb is worth 1000 points
>Small boxes are worth only 100 points
>Getting hit once at full power usually isn't a big deal
>When point blank shooting the boss mechs, aim for the dick
>The metal enemies that quickly fly away only do so if you shoot them, you can move away from the center or hold your fire to keep them on screen for longer

Hot start! Thanks for the vid.

>CURRENT BOARDS
>2 MINUTE
700200 - Cave owns bitch
626100 - fug
625500- Character O
>5 MINUTE
880100 - Character O

>>6210230
I don't know how that guy managed to get such a quick kill, this is probably me just being shit but getting a kill that optimal seems unreachable. Maybe the game allows a faster fire rate if you use a turbo button? Neither retroarch nor turbo engine have autofire frequency config as far as I can tell though so I can't test this

>>6210963
The TurboGrafx came with autofire as a standard on their controllers, but I'm not sure if there's any setting that would turn the autofire up or down, or if it's just set to max by default. I'll have to find out later.

5 MINUTE
2022600 - Cave owns bitch

A quick 5 min time to fill the board, though I like this game enough that I might stick with it

>>6210673
Nice run

Glad this one's set more of a fire. Hopefully more people can be inspired to try.

>CURRENT BOARDS
>2 MINUTE
700200 - Cave owns bitch
626100 - fug
625500- Character O
>5 MINUTE
2022600 - Cave owns bitch
880100 - Character O

2 minute
648400 - fug

choked hard on the boss, but an improvement nonetheless.

>CURRENT BOARDS
>2 MINUTE
700200 - Cave owns bitch
648400 - fug
625500- Character O
>5 MINUTE
2022600 - Cave owns bitch
880100 - Character O

What's the trigger for making the big blue amoebas appear from the sides? Is it just score, or destroying a specific enemy?

>>6212242
From what I can tell, it's killing the green circles firing missiles at you fast enough. Similar to the extra two jets that will only appear if you destroy the first two fast enough.

>>6209351
In late to the party here so not enough time to get any practise in ,might take part in the next one

>>6212270
You've got a whole week. The other two guys started playing this yesterday. Just hop in and start.

2 MINUTE
749100 - Cave owns bitch

https://streamable.com/eyp8b

Just as I thought, autofire makes a huge difference, the top scores all use it. Saved 3-4 seconds on the mechs just by having it on. Switched to mednafen since retroarch and turbo engine didn't make it easy to set up autofire for some reason

>>6213364
Hmm. Well, if it's used elsewhere, I guess I'll have to allow it here. I haven't had the chance to play for a bit, but I'll see if I can get something in now.

>CURRENT BOARDS
>2 MINUTE
749100 - Cave owns bitch
648400 - fug
625500- Character O
>5 MINUTE
2022600 - Cave owns bitch
880100 - Character O

It looks like Retroarch only has an autofire toggle where everything gets autofired when the button is held. Guess I gotta use mednafen too.

>>6213391
Needing to use autofire in a game with built in autofire is pretty annoying yeah, especially with how annoying setting it up is. If you want to ban it that's fine by me, though one benefit of this is that you can more directly compare your scores to others

>>6213405
I believe you can hold down the turbo button, hold the shoot button and release the turbo button while keeping autofire active but retroarch's autofire rate is very slow, couldn't even tell if it worked or not.

>>6213406
Yeah, I think it'd be easier to ban it for our purposes just because it'd be pretty annoying to have to have everyone use a specific emulator just to get proper autofire to be competitive. I gotta revert your score, unfortunately.

>CURRENT BOARDS
>2 MINUTE
700200 - Cave owns bitch
648400 - fug
625500- Character O
>5 MINUTE
2022600 - Cave owns bitch
880100 - Character O

>>6213410
Alright, probably for the best

Man, this is tough. I can barely scrape past what I set at the start.

>CURRENT BOARDS
>2 MINUTE
700200 - Cave owns bitch
648400 - fug
634200- Character O
>5 MINUTE
2022600 - Cave owns bitch
880100 - Character O

It seems like my biggest problem may be losing my powerups at the bosses because I'm in too close and get hit by something - usually the yellow bombs from the second dude, I think. Also just keeping calm - there's a lot of shit on screen, and I end up flying all over the goddamn place at top speed just trying to catch and shoot everything and end up running into shit.

>CURRENT BOARDS
>2 MINUTE
700200 - Cave owns bitch
648400 - fug
645300- Character O
>5 MINUTE
2022600 - Cave owns bitch
880100 - Character O

It's interesting to see a shmup with speed control. What's funny is that the sequel Soldier Blade also has speed control, but only two: low and high. I feel like I only have use for level 2 speed at the very beginning where I need to go faster than slow, but the normal shot is too narrow to hit anything if I'm flying fast.

Christ's sake.

>CURRENT BOARDS
>2 MINUTE
700200 - Cave owns bitch
648400 - fug
645300- Character O
>5 MINUTE
2022600 - Cave owns bitch
1857800 - Character O

>>6213483
The bombs often get me too, losing just 1 power level is no big deal though. Point blanking during the first half of the fight is pretty safe, but he goes apeshit halfway and at that point it's better to play a little bit safe, especially when you're moving your ship towards him. Also, if you get reduced to minimal power but want to continue, you should aim for his legs because that spot has the smallest concentration of bombs, you're more likely to do damage.

>>6213492
Speed control became pretty normal for shmups in the 90's, even R-Type had it in Delta despite relying on speed up items. Final Soldier kinda fucks it up by not having it reset though, means there's a lot of extra presses involved.

In 5 minute, I wonder if it's a good idea to save the bomb you get for the final boss. I burned it in the middle when two big green dudes came down and it gave me a bonus for killing them.

>>6213560
Yeah, I ended up binding select to the button next to my shoot just so I'm not bringing my thumb over to hit select over and over. Do shmups still have speed control nowadays?

>>6213567
Some do, Eschatos and Natsuki Chronicles for example, and Border Down though that's not very modern. Pink Sweets also has a caravan mode with speed control.

Also Cardinal Sins might be worth looking into if you're going to continue the contest

I've been busy with stuff at home and work and haven't been able to get to the game as much, but I'm gonna bump the thread to get more eyes on it. Anyone can hop in - it's only a 3 minute game. Don't just lurk! Come lay down a score!

here it is cheif

>>6214375
i think my big issue is not bombing i always assume it's better to save bombs but i couldn't see a bomb stock anywere as i assume i don't get rewarded for not bombing

>>6209351
No thanks.

>>6214383
You only get one bomb in 5 minute mode, it's the little blue thing that floats next to your ship when you pick it up. Could you do me a solid and format your score like in the OP so I can copy and paste it on my phone?

>>6214383
ok i get it now, the little ships you get can be detinated as a bomb

>>6214404

2 MINUTE GAME
337400 - LOW SCORE BOY

5 MINUTE GAME
1178100 - LOW SCORE BOY

Thanks, homie. Solid starting score! Don't forget about those secret bonuses - hit the B's, kill enemies quickly to get higher scoring enemies to appear, and blow up the eyeballs at the same time with your split shot.

>CURRENT BOARDS
>2 MINUTE
700200 - Cave owns bitch
648400 - fug
645300- Character O
337400 - LOW SCORE BOY
>5 MINUTE
2022600 - Cave owns bitch
1857800 - Character O
1178100 - LOW SCORE BOY

2 MINUTE
675800 - fug

fucked up the boss again, but i got a surprising amount of points from just killing the fireballs

>>6213483
its always trying to collect the one or two lingering golden orbs that lead me into a stray bullet or fast falling enemy

5 MINUTE
2140200 - Cave owns bitch

Those purple enemies that show up shortly before the 4 eyeballs and split into 4 pieces can suck my dick

Sorry guys, got out of work late.

>CURRENT BOARDS
>2 MINUTE
700200 - Cave owns bitch
675800 - fug
645300- Character O
337400 - LOW SCORE BOY
>5 MINUTE
2140200 - Cave owns bitch
1857800 - Character O
1178100 - LOW SCORE BOY

gave 5m a try

5 MINUTE
1674600 - fug

5 MINUTE
2018000 - fug

>>6214395
Faggot.

Goddammit, I almost want to extend the contest another week just I can get time to make some more runs.

>CURRENT BOARDS
>2 MINUTE
700200 - Cave owns bitch
675800 - fug
645300- Character O
337400 - LOW SCORE BOY
>5 MINUTE
2140200 - Cave owns bitch
2018000 - fug
1857800 - Character O
1178100 - LOW SCORE BOY

5 MINUTE
2085000 - fug

still cant get the mech boss kill exactly right

>CURRENT BOARDS
>2 MINUTE
700200 - Cave owns bitch
675800 - fug
645300- Character O
337400 - LOW SCORE BOY
>5 MINUTE
2140200 - Cave owns bitch
2085000 - fug
1857800 - Character O
1178100 - LOW SCORE BOY

Well, it's February 24, but I finally got a chance to actually get back to the game. If it's alright with you guys, I'd like to extend it at least a few more days to see if I can add some more to my score. Otherwise, I'll just go through the wrap up.

I imagine the hugest amount of points comes from getting the mechs killed fast enough that I can make it to the B tiles. That's like 20 or 40k points, right?

>CURRENT BOARDS
>2 MINUTE
700200 - Cave owns bitch
675800 - fug
668300- Character O
337400 - LOW SCORE BOY
>5 MINUTE
2140200 - Cave owns bitch
2085000 - fug
1857800 - Character O
1178100 - LOW SCORE BOY

This is what I get for having my first real shmupping experience being something as simple as Star Soldier. I got all 4 fighter jets, every red box I saw, all of the Bs, the amoebas, the in-the-circle miniboss, the eyes AND the bosses quicker than usual, but I still got lower than my current high score. I'm not even sure what I did differently. Maybe I missed more orbs than I thought?

>>6222878
If you arent good at quick killing the mechs then its often better to just keep milking the second mech's bombs for points. The problem is most likely that you killed it quicker than before but not quickly enough to make up for that loss of points
>>6222858
Fine with me though maybe a few is too many considering how little activity there is

>>6222883
It's a real bummer that this one didn't take off the same way the Star Soldier one did, especially because this is a way better game. I wonder if I should have more time between editions - people may not be very interested in weekly shmupping compared to one showing up every blue moon.

400 more points. Radical. I guess I really should try milking the bombs.

>CURRENT BOARDS
>2 MINUTE
700200 - Cave owns bitch
675800 - fug
668700- Character O
337400 - LOW SCORE BOY
>5 MINUTE
2140200 - Cave owns bitch
2085000 - fug
1857800 - Character O
1178100 - LOW SCORE BOY

>>6222858
>>6222887
im cool with extending the deadline a couple days. i dont know what happened to everyone else either, but i will definitely play in the next one.

>>6223390
Time just flies. I was fully intending to participate and could swear this started like yesterday.

>>6209351
looks cool, I'll take a look at a video.