/vr/ - Retro Games

>>6198113
everything except the CRTs in this image are interesting.

End-stage CRT Autism:

The search for the perfect floor model CRT television. RGB not required.

Last thread was shit
post scanlions you fucks

>>6198186
All my best scanlion pics are on my home PC, might post more later.

>>6198183
I am 99% sure my grandma had that exact TV when I was little. I need to go through our photo albums because I know I have a picture of it, somewhere.

I absolutely don't have the room for a floor model, but if I were to get one, I'd probably shoot for full-nostalgia and try and get the hefty RCA my parents had when I was a wee tot. I remember one night my dad hooked our NES up to it, and seeing my games on such a massive screen was mind-blowing compared to the 19" we usually used.

>>6198207
>Grandia
based
Feena and Leen a cute

>>6197778
I like using Kijiji because it lets me get shit/get rid of shit without the eBay hassle. But I agree that this kind of shit pisses me off. The train station one does not bother me as much, since I live within a 5 minute walk of a subway. The "hey can you deliver this shit to me in hell's half acre" nonsense is ridiculous though. A couple years ago my grandfather died, and we had a ton of Apple IIs and vintage Macs that he had been keeping in our garage. I decided to keep the best ones and then give away the rest for free. I had an exchange with someone that went much like this:

>"Hey will you deliver to me way out at the edge of the city?"
>I don't really want to do that, you can come pick it up where I live
>"Please consider it I live in a suburban shithole and don't have a car sob story etc."
>Okay fine I can deliver for $60
>"Wait why is this suddenly $60? It was listed as free"
>Yeah it's free, but only if you come pick it up. If I have to drive to where you are, that is a 1 hour, and 52km round-trip. I charge 54 cents per km, plus $23 an hour for my time (what I was making at the time). I think both of these are reasonable figures.
>"FUCK YOU FUCKING GOUGER I DON'T HAVE MONEY AND YOU'RE TRYING TO GOUGE ME"

An hour later, I pick up my cell and get some angry pre-pubescent voice screaming at me. I don't understand where these people come from, or why they're interested in computers that are almost twice as old as they are.

>>6198238
>I don't understand where these people come from, or why they're interested in computers that are almost twice as old as they are.
aspergers.

>>6198213
JRPGs with sprites and emoting animu character portraits are top-tier. I really miss them.

>>6198125
>Multiple Sony CPD-G500s
>Multiple ViewSonic tubes
>Mitsubishi Diamondtron
>HP rebrand of a Sony FW-900
>not interesting

I haven't played since on a crt like this in the dark since I was fourteen, I bet. It's so comfortable and nostalgic it's unreal

>>6198113
JVC D Series Master Race checking in. Lots of retro 6th gen gaymin goin down in the lair.

>>6198312
Is that a Mitsubishi, by any chance? Just a wild guess, but I felt oddly inclined to ask.

>>6198346
I've been hearing a lot of love for the D series in recent years. Is that like mid-to-late '90s? I had an early 2000s JVC like a decade ago, and it was legit one of the best-looking CRTs I've owned.

>>6198186
All of my best scanlion pics are from my recent playthrough of FFVI because a kind anon told me about Open Camera and my pics started to look a lot better.

This one is particularly nice, although the lines aren't nearly this noticeable in person. Certain background colors seem to make my camera pick up on them more.

>>6198743

>>6198750

>>6198754

>>6198183
i've really been thinking about getting one of those console tvs. i have a 20l2md right now, and absolutely love it. but i hate not being able to relax on a couch. i always feel the need to sit close to it. i was looking into getting a larger consumer set with component, like maybe a d-series, but i'm just not a fan of how they look. plus the console tvs just have a look that pairs well with older game consoles. can any anons rec me some nicer looking consumer sets or should i just keep looking for a floor model??

>>6198794
How much larger are you thinking of getting?
For couch play i see no issue with a 36" CRT.

>>6198218
I loved the variety in CRTs. It's a shame all modern LCDs look exactly the same.

>>6198959
i was thinking that a 27" was probably as large as i wanted to go. it seems a lot more manageable compared to the 36" fs sony that i had, which was a bitch to get up my stairs. i might consider a 32" but it would have to look really nice.

>>6198739
Man those are some cheap prices. I remember my parents paid something like $3k for a Trinitron in the mid 1990s.

>>6198967
See above. They all eventually started looking the same as well.

Do not fall for the scart meme.

what monitor is this? Can anyone identify?

>>6199343
19" Hyundai Flat Screen CRT 1600x1200 85Hz 0.2mm White Q910

>>6199386
why does it look like its 16:10?

>>6199407
The camera is only showing a part of the screen

S-video master race reporting in.

>>6199338
Just ordered some hand made scart cables.

Ahh, just like the developer intended.

>>6199489
whats up with the grid pattern on your television?

>>6199601
The vertical lines are an artifact from downscaling the picture to fit in the upload limitations. The original file is like 14 megabytes.

Speaking of PCs, I'm thinking of buying a PC98 but the catch is much of the games use wacky 24KHz scan, where the hell can I get a monitor that supports that? Bringing one with me from Japan is not feasible.
I heard EGA monitors have 21Khz modes, will they work with 24?

>>6198734
It is, how did you know?

My monitor was making snapping sounds and picture size changing. Cleaned and found a wire blowing around on the board above yoke and taps on screw/one of the pins. No idea if it's connected to anything. Is this/all the wire wrappings nearby normal? Haven't touched it because don't want to die and no discharge tool. It's a quad sync if it matters

>>6199893
Mine is advertised as supporting EGA but it runs at 24K, it's an arcade monitor and I know some Nanao's support 15/24K. Might be your best option. I could be wrong but I think you'd be going too far off, some monitors might be better/worse with those limits though

>>6199893
What about normal VGA crt with ossc?

>>6199963
Yeah, looks like 24KHz is more common on arcade monitors than on PC ones, but finding one here is going to be hard and fitting one into my tiny room even harder.

>>6199971
I don't want the picture to be stretched, can ossc do letterbox? I guess I can resort to that if I don't find other options.

>>6199896
I had a Mitsubishi set I used for just about every video game I ever played from '87 to 2009. I was deeply familiar with how that set looked. Pretty much all Mitsubishis use that style of shadow mask, but there was just something about the overall look of your picture that reminded me of my old TV.

What model is yours? Wouldn't mind seeing a pic, Mitsubishi sets need more love, they really are great.

>>6200012
>I don't want the picture to be stretched
Change the picture size on the crt menu

Considering the value of the larger professional studio monitors these days I expect someone will start buying up arcade machines with late generation 25" and 29" standard resolution and tri-sync monitors in them. Especially the ones that don't have significant burn-in. Then all a person has to do is construct a wooden cabinet and run wires to a control panel and power switch. Then re-sell it on ebay or craiglist. The boxed RGB monitor would probably be worth more these days than the working arcade game.

If you wanted to get fancy with it you could even do up the box to look like a floor model television and add in the requisite speakers, composite video decoders, etc. I don't think the lack of being aperture grille would be a big deal since any of those Pentranic, Betson, Wei-ya, etc that were made in the late 2000s would still look really great. And some of the older arcade monitors have a really coarse dot pitch and shadow mask that some users prefer.

I have been thinking in getting myself a CRT. Are the Philips models any good? Found one with a component port and that looks pretty good.

>>6200291
I've bever been a huge fan of Philips, but I'll tell you what I tell everyone; at this point in time, the quality of a CRT has much more to do with the condition of that specific tube than it does the brand. A top-of-the-line JVC or Trinitron that had the shit beat out of them isn't going to be as nice as an RCA or Zenith that was barely used. Best thing to do is test them in person and make the call yourself. Never buy a CRT without testing, and never have one shipped. Optimally, never pay anything more than $20-30 bucks; you are literally taking someone's garbage off of their hands that they would have to pay to dispose of otherwise.

There. There's the only consumer CRT buyer's guide anyone ever needs.

>>6199962
It's arcing somewhere. potentially the anode cap or the flyback internally. start by discharging and cleaning under the anode cap, some corona dope under it might help if it's the issue.

>>6200602
I suspected arcing but I'm frankly terrified of electricity. Stood several foot back when blowing air type of paranoid.
I thought the wire might have been a potential cause since it blows around but didn't want to touch it without discharging which I've never actually done either.
Is there a preferred wire gauge/single or multi strand wire?
I've also heard some people say to be careful of tube gathering charge while disconnected, but then see people ground the anode to the frame? Any way to actually protect against it?

what is the poster behind AVGN here?

>>6201134
it's you're a faggot fuck eceleb cancer

>>6201147
thanks...

>>6201134
Mega Man 3 Nintendo Power

>>6201159
thanks babe

>>6201187

>>6201187
>Babe

anyone know where i can find a middleman to track down a megaview for me? I'll pay good $, wanting a 37 or 42 inch mitsubishi, will settle for a 33 though so long as it can do at least 720

ANYONE KNOW?

>>6201230
>Cope 02/13/20(Thu)18:43:42 No.6201230▶
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>>>6201187 (You)
>>Babe

>>6198739
>walking through Kmart as a kid
>walking through the electronics section
>seeing all those TVs
>watching whatever was playing on them while my mom was shopping, buying groceries or school supplies for me and my older bros
>the smell of the electronic section
>the demo version of "Starfox Assault" is playing on the display gamecube
>the newest DVD player is on display near a variety of movies
>try to figure out the plot from the pictures, as well as the brief summary on the back

>>6198739
Those poor shelves.

Fuckin' score. Fuck yeah

>>6201847
But does it werk?

>>6201854
Sure does. Even came with a remote.

>>6201862
Post pics.

>>6201159
wojak masters

>>6201847
Flatscreen CRTs are garbage.

>>6201880
stfu&gtfo

>>6201880
Simple 4:3 SD ones like that are perfectly acceptable.

Go parrot somewhere else bandwagoner.

consumer composite

>>6201847
Those are bad. Use CRT Royale if you want that look.

>>6201950
>CRT Royale
elaborate. Idk what that is.

Just picked this up from the e-waste pile an hour ago. On paper it seems pretty good, 0.21mm dot pitch, maxes out at 1920x1440, and will do 1600x1200 at 86 Hz. Interestingly, it also has BNC inputs, so I am wondering if it will accept signals from consoles. It also has the smoothest swivel mechanism I've ever seen on a monitor. I've never owned a Philips tube so I'm kind of curious to see how it will perform.

This was just one of many. Of course, it was just my luck that the one day there are a shitload of CRTs in the e-waste was the one day there was a city employee who gave a fuck about doing his job. I left behind a Samsung SyncMaster 1100P and a smaller Philips 109B5, both with BNC inputs. Tons of other VGA-only SyncMasters as well. Debating if it's worth raising the ire of the city to go back and get those.

>>6202628
Fuck, that rotation

This tube seems unusually long

>>6201895
As God intended

>>6202635
Longer for your pleasure, anon. Based on the curve I think it's an aperture grill

>>6202628
bnc on decent monitors is normal and does not mean it accepts 15khz, but it is a likely sign it takes RGsB.

>>6202656
Did anyone other than Sony and Mitsubushi make aperture grilles?

>>6202628
I want that SyncMaster. Where did you get this?

>>6202656
>Longer for your pleasure
Oh la la

>I think it's an aperture grill
The technical specifications say it's a shadow mask.

>>6202678
Yeah it apparently only scans down to 30 KHz. Pity about that, but still seems like it's shaping up to be a nice PC monitor.

>>6202727
Canadafag, this was from the Victoria Park Transfer Station in Toronto. Only really useful info if you are within ~50km. The Syncmasters seem like nice units but I would not drive far to grab one. If it was a Diamondtron 2040u, for free, different story. I'd risk arrest for one of those.

>>6202771
there's barely any pc monitors which go below 31khz and the ones you'll find are quite old.

>>6201895
soul

>>6201895
looks fucking good for a composite. not the biggest fan of shadow mask tho, but gj anon

Do you watch older media on your crt?

Trinitron master-race. Got both of these for free and I'm about to go pick up 2 more of these free Trinitrons tomorrow. You fags mirrin? Also why is one sharper than the other?

Does anyone know how to recalibrate and refocus these Trinitrons without the remote?

>>6201863
One on the floor is the CRT you asked pics of. They were heavy as fuck.

>>6203416
I watch old 4:3 anime on mine.

>>6203442
Very nice.
>how to recalibrate and refocus these Trinitrons without the remote
You don't. Trinitron remotes are cheap as fuck, just get one and follow the instructions in the service manual. If you have a universal remote set it to Sony and chances are that'll also work.

>>6203490
Thank you bro.

>>6201880
Objectively wrong.

Am I missing anything?

>>6203675
Scart and vga

>>6203675
>7 inputs
Damn, son. How many inches you've got there?

>>6198207
>>6198213
>>6198264
I got it on the switch, but.... the ps1 version on a crt really does look way better, doesn't it.

On the plus side I'm pretty sure the *ehem* "remaster" dropped the price on ps1 copies.

>>6201880
Flat screens are fine.
It's the widescreen ones when they become irredeemable.

Why is everyone so obsessed with visible scanlines when no consumer SDTV showed that with 480i video? Visible scanlines don't look good, it's like watching through window blinds and only zoomers who used CRT "scanline" shaders think that's how all CRTs are supposed to look like.

Just out of curiosity, does any company still make CRTs?

Apart from, you know, poverty-tier China/India tvs

>>6203796
Scanlines are visible in 240p that majority of retro games run in

>>6203797
The era of CRT being cheaper to produce is long gone. Even the cheapest chinkshit TVs use LCD now.

>>6203787
Widescreens are fine.
It's the CRT ones when they become irredeemable.

>>6203824
CRT back when the first LCD consumer sets launched were already more to produce and ship. Removing shipping barely helps keep cost comparative. LCD was cheaper from the start of the consumer run in 2003 (anything previous was not consumer/rpoduction) and by 2006 it was better than plasma.

Shipping a CRT cost tons. There are also a shit ton of more heavy/stability based bits that need to be overbuilt to keep retarded customers safe. Triple front glass panels alone mean an LCD/plasma with ONE glass/plastic front would be 1/3 or 1/5th the price in that regard alone.

>>6203839
>overbuilt to keep retarded customers safe
Still didn't stop TVs with footballs thrown through them from showing up in people's driveway on Monday morning after Super Bowl Sunday.

>>6203675
Nothing really

>>6203416
how did you connected it to the PC?

>>6198264
I really hate that these dumb character portraits became a trend.

>>6203783
They fucked up the remaster and they didn't even bother replicating some effects found in the original Saturn/PSX versions.

>>6203416
>Watching Ed, Edd n Eddy on a delicious Trinitron
Based and I envy you.
Hopefully one day I'll stop being a poorfag and experience the same thing too.

>>6204220
Probably used a HDMI to Component converter box.
They are input lag but for consuming media I think they are just fine.
Gotta try it myself as well.

>>6204298
>he didn't watch saturday morning cartoons on the living room trinitron as a kid
zoom zoom

>>6204476
A proper video converter shouldn't have any more lag than the built in DAC on a video card. In both cases the internal representation of the image is digital and at some point it had to be encoded in an analog signal.

Are there any /crt/ approved filters?

>>6204950
Yeah, coffee filters are great for cleaning screens and not leaving any lint.

>>6203843
what?

>>6202727
nec made the cromaclear, which is a cross between an aperture grill and a shadow mask

PC CRT goodness

>>6198739
>its flubber!

>>6203675
Digital out

>>6205620
>IBM

>>6205647

>>6205647
Most IBM monitors were garbage, but a few were very good. I'm thinking of the P260 and C220p.

G97s and P77s are alright if you can get them for free. The old InfoWindow units are good if you want the late-80s DOS feel going, but good luck finding one that doesn't have stupid levels of burn-in. I have a G97 and it's... reasonable. Will not do 1600x1200 flicker-free, which is sort of my litmus test for whether a PC CRT is "good". But it's beige, it's got that IBM aesthetic, it'll push SXGA @ 85Hz, and it's been with my family for decades now. I would not pay for one, and I doubt I'd repair it if/when it breaks, but it's a reasonable tube to have. However, we also had some low-end 15"-17" IBMs that came with our various Aptiva systems, and honestly they weren't worth the space they took up. Trash.

>>6205797
Oh and the P275 is good too. There are probably more good IBM monitors, but my point is that they made up a tiny fraction of the sea of office shit that IBM put out otherwise.

>>6199490
from who

>>6204748
Well, I'm sold.
I'll look into buying a converter and place my small CRT next to my pc.
It barely got any use ever since I got it.

>>6205803
A lot of IBM's P series monitors were Sony Trinitron rebrands. I had a P97 I sold recently for $650, wish I could've kept it but I'm moving and had to let go of it.

>>6205931
>P97
>$650

Pretty nice tube but wow, who the fuck would pay that? I've pulled better CRTs from the trash heap. Not shitting on the P97, I'm just wondering what combination of autism and family wealth combined to make that transaction possible.

>>6205945
Some people take the meme way too seriously. I honestly didn't think it would even sell at that price but the guy came the next day to pick it up. If anything it shows how much prices have gone up on those things.

Is there any reason to get a TV over a Monitor outside of size?

>>6206130
Would you rather play on consoles or emulate? TV for the former, monitor for the latter.

>>6206132
Both would be cool, but do they display things differently or is it really just size?

>>6203416
Hell yeah.
If it's a 4:3 show I want to get a physical copy of will go out of my way to get a dvd version over bluray just so I can play them on my crt.
I hate giant black bars on the sides of the screen on lcd's on 4:3 shows.

You forget that feeling of watching a good episode of Star Trek TNG or Trigun on a screen that actually fits the image with a pizza in hand after a day of work after fifteen years of not really watching tv.

>>6206135
TVs display interlaced video which old consoles put out. Computer monitors only work with progressive scan video with a horizontal frequency of at least 31kHz which is twice that of NTSC video.

>>6206013
I don't know if that is necessarily reflective of how much they have gone up vs "yes, they have gone up". One thing is for sure though, it's gotten a hell of a lot harder to find PC CRTs over the past decade. It used to be that every nignog and his dog had one to give away. Most normies don't even bother with the "giving away" part anymore, they just toss them now. Alternatively, anyone slightly in the know lists them as "RARE- RETRO CRT PC MONITOR for GAMING" and charges an absurd price. So unless you're willing to be really patient and go dumpster diving on a near-daily basis, you're likely going to pay out the ass for anything decent. But $650 for a mid-range 19" Trini with no BNC inputs is stupid no matter how you slice it. Congrats to you for managing to get that price, makes me want to consider listing some of the professional monitors I've picked up over the years.

I have a dell e770s, it works fine EXCEPT the button on the front for the "+" wont respond, meaning I CAN'T EFFECTIVELY ADJUST THE IMAGE!!!!!!

Can I repair the button or do something in software to adjust the image? Anyone have any ideas?

>>6205797
This is an IBM PS/1 I have in my collection, dont have much options when it comes to monitor. Overall though it's a cool little 386 system. Has the extra ISA expansion and second floppy drive.

>>6206934
dude just open the case of you monitor and check the button

>>6206954
how the fuck do i do that? I see no screws anywhere...

>>6206954
>>6206957
Ok so I unplugged the beast, turned on its side, pulled two screws out of it and then nothng….. looks like some weird tab setup and I'm afraid of breaking it

what now?

>>6206934
>e770s
Those are the equivalent of $80 1366x768 LCDs you find at Target today. If it's something simple you can try fixing it, otherwise just trash it and wait for something that can do at 85Hz at the tube's maximum resolution.

>>6207003
wasnt what I asked but thanks...

>>6207043
He basically told you your tube is worthless and not worth fixing. You could probably take apart the front panel CAREFULLY, and try to clear some of the gunk out of the buttons (or if you can find a compatible switch, get one of those off eBay and re-solder).

In short, your monitor was trash when it was new. It did not have any fancy serial or USB connections that allowed for software tuning, unlike a high-end ViewSonic, Nokia, Sony or Mitsubishi monitor (the the various Apple, Gateway, HP and Dell rebrands of those). So short of fucking with your graphics card's output, there is no way to adjust it in software.

>>6203416
>>6203479
Why yes I do.
Watching the entirety of Initial D First Stage last summer on my CRT over a handful of nights was a great experience. Perfect atmosphere.

>>6203416
What kind of a fool do you take me for?

>>6207329
>that equalizer and amp
top 80s aesthetic

Worth it?

>>6207403
>Worth it?
Maybe if you live in the middle of nowhere and you never see them come up. Otherwise, absolutely not. If you're a bit patient, people will be giving these things away for free. Maybe not with the original stand, but normals are happy to be rid of the sets.

>>6207413

I thought the white shell was unique.

What about this

>>6207403
Would cop just for the color scheme.

>>6202628
>>6202635
So after letting it sit for 48 hours or so, I powered on the Philips. Whoever was using this had the brightness cranked up to 100%. Tube is a bit dim but the colours are nice. Unfortunately, it doesn’t seem to want to do 1600x1200 at 85 Hz, and I suspect this is because of the cheap Chinese VGA cable I’m using (which came bundled with some LCD monitor). Will probably have to get a better VGA cable at some point. Anything I should watch for?

I ended up going back to get the SyncMaster 1100P. Turns out it was a plus model, so should be able to do 1600x1200 at 90 Hz. It’s sitting in my office now but that will be interesting to look at.

>>6207553
Imo that's way too much. Paid less than half of that for a quad sync in Oz, but if money isn't a barrier K7000's have heaps of guides and parts available if you have any issues down the line. Just make sure you get an iso transformer, iirc those don't have SMPS

>>6207403
It's a looker but $65 bucks is a lot for a tv with only composite and rf inputs. If you're one of those dudes who prefer the look of composite and like the late eighties Trinitron aesthetic it could do. If not try and look for something with at least s-video.

>>6207586
I remembered my HP P1110 actually has a detachable VGA cable. Used the thick HP cable on the Philips, still 75 Hz 1600x1200. Pushing it to 85 Hz just results in a black screen. So all the cable did was give slightly better colour and sharpness. I know for a fact this cable will drive the HP to 1600x1200 at 85 Hz and 1800x1440 at 80 Hz on the same computer hardware. I tried another machine and got the same result. I can’t figure out why the Philips is performing below spec. Aside from some kind of hardware issue, the only thing I can think of it that this is an older, undocumented version of the 201B (date of mfg, January 1997).

Has anyone experienced something like this on their PC CRTs?

>>6207769
What happens if you feed the monitor a signal beyond specifications like 1600x1200 at 100Hz? If it shows an error message or blinks the LED then it means something's wrong with the cable since 85Hz is still within spec.

>>6207783
It seems to just go black again at 100 Hz. The cable should be fine, because there's no issue with it on the HP.

whats the best PC CRT?
I have several of each Windows DOS, 95, 98, and XP machines, right now I'm using basic monitors I got for free and still had from over the years.
Of course the games I play on them are via physical copies.

>>6203416
I use my PVM to watch VHS tapes sometimes, but I also have a Dell Trinitron I nabbed for free because it had a crack in the case. Has some convergence issues, but it's nice enough for watching cartoons while I shitpost.

So my grandparents have this TV in their basement in the corner that's definitely been down there since before I was born. It has woodgrain on the sides and a number pad on the right to change channels, and the thing is clearly very grimy and there's a lot of shit in the way. Makes me wonder if it's even worth it to take it down and see if it works?

>>6207976
To me it seems like your monitor doesn't do 85Hz. If a known bad mode gives a black screen and so does 85Hz that's likely the situation.

>>6208040
Mitsubishi diamond pro

>>6207769
According to CNET the 201B should be able to handle 1600x1200 at 85 Hz but if it can't resolve it then it could be a wrong spec. The user manual must be up somewhere, it'd have the most accurate spec list. Otherwise you can do 1600x1200 at 75 which isn't awful, but 1024x768 at 100 Hz or 120 would be a buttery smooth alternative

>>6208081
>>6208109
I actually do have the user manual from Philips, which says that this thing should be capable of 1600x1200 @ 86 Hz and a maximum resolution of 1920x1440. But I suspect that's from a later model, because the 201B has a bulbous early 2000s aesthetic that's a lot more like the HP (pic related). I actually cannot find any evidence of the "boxy" 201B having been sold in North America. If the revisions were so substantial that they basically resulted in a completely new monitor, I don't know why Philips didn't just call it the 202B or something.

I really want to like this tube and make a case for keeping it. But I also have a pair of NEC Accusync 900s that will do 1600x1200 @75 Hz all day long, and will run up to 188 Hz at 640x480. Sure, the NECs aren't really "professional" units, and the build quality is crap compared to the Philips, but on paper they're just as good. I don't know, I may end up giving away the 201B to someone who wants it.

>>6208040
>whats the best PC CRT?

Oh, man, so many. My vote would be for >>6208086, specifically the 2040u. I saw one of those in operation once, and it was incredible. It's the sort of thing you need to see in person. But there are literally dozens others. The problem is that people with those high-end Sony, Mitsubishi, Lacie or Eizo monitors generally know what they got, and they will try to gouge. Some good under-the-radar models might be things like the P/G Viewsonics, larger NEC MultiSyncs, Dell/HP rebrands of Sony monitors (like my P1110), Hitachi CMs, the Apple Studio CRTs (rebrands of Sony/Mitsu, though you need a Power Mac G4 to adjust the geometry etc). People seem to look for anything that will do 1600x1200 at 80 Hz or higher. All that being said, there are some "basic" CRTs that do a great job. I'm quite partial to my old Viewsonic E70. Only does 1280x1024 @ 66Hz, but has really nice colour and deep blacks. Despite being made of Tic Tac plastic, my Accusyncs have good tubes. Basic isn't always bad.

>>6204290
Yeah, I didn't play the remaster, but from what I saw it seemed like a total rush-job that they were trying to pretend wasn't a rush-job. I feel like the studio handling it was given a really short deadline, or possibly had a serious issue and had to start over from scratch at one point, just based on how the PR side of things was handled.

>>6207326
>ashita no joe
zoom zoom

Can 27" Trinitrons be moved by a single person

>>6208652
Pffftt... For a 27" maybe, but I'm using a fucking car jack to lift a 36" from some old guy's house as I'm posting this. See pic.

>>6208693
That's a harbor freight tranny jack. And I've carried a 27in tv by myself. Back didn't feel good afterwards though.

>>6208652
They only weigh around 100 lbs, so on that front it's possible. In my experience though they are so awkward to hold it's easier with two people.

>>6198113
hey, Microsoft sidewinder x4,
I have this keyboard and I love it.

Not enough Bang Olufsen love around here

>>6208794
Then post some, faggot.

>>6208794
Agreed. My MX6000 is the nicest TV I've seen by a good way. Biggest benefit though is the speakers are so good there's no real reason to get an external solution.

>>6208794
they're overpriced, overseized consumer models. Trinitron still the way to go

>>6208086
I love my Diamond Pro 930SB. Great monitor, got it out of the university IT trash heap about 10 years ago. Probably was a low-hour unit because it still works great.

>>6208704
Even carrying a 19" CRT is agony if you don't lift. I carried the above-mentioned Diamond Pro a little under a mile from where I found it back to my apartment at the time. It was only 52 lbs, but I couldn't raise my arms above my shoulders for the next 3 days. That was the point where I decided to start going to the gym.

>>6208839
>overpriced
Here in Europe they tend to often be cheaper than equivalent sized Sonys. Remotes are expensive though, mainly because they're compatible with many newer models.
>overseized
What did he mean by this?

>>6208794
B&O is an audio company and it really shows on their TVs. Even their newest model is just a bog-standard LCD TV on a rotating stand with nice speakers.

>>6198113
Wont piling CRTs like that damage the front bezel of the ones taking the weight? I had one with books and top and its bezel broke and came forward, admittedly some plastic could have broken inside before, but I dont dare to put anything on top now let alone another monitor.

Its a good thing you cant pile them anyway. I would just use the free space to hoard more stuff.

>>6208925
I'd only be worried about the one on the bottom left, second from the left.

>>6208606
>50 year old anime
>zoom zoom
I watched Ashita no Joe before Megalobox was even conceived as an idea, so don't even bring that up.

>>6208290
Maybe it just doesn’t support that resolution over VGA? Try the BNC inputs.

>couple of tweens just threw a 12ish" CRT off the roof of my apartment
>roof access is ladder only
Don't even know why they tried to lie about it, I'm more impressed they managed to get it up the ladder

>>6208879
930sb has hour counter in the service menu. look up the service manual. I have one too and it's a great monitor but I wish the bias were in the user menu.

>>6208652
Doable for tiny 50KG white kid, but was a struggle. Mine was a 29" arcade monitor (somewhere around 120lbs iirc)

>>6209538
Why do you list your own weight in KG but the monitor in LBS?

About to do my first discharge and attempt repairs. First just a big clean, so could be working for a while. Do I need to ground the tube or anode while I'm cleaning? Do I need to reground before reconnecting the anode? Worried about it building charge
Am I safe to touch the flyback/HV wire/anode or can anything else still bite easily?

>>6210391
For which CRT?

>>6209564
Hangover and lack of morning coffee/cigs

>>6210395
WG 27D9204. I'm fairly confident the bleed resistor is working, but it's still pulling small amounts of dust to the front of the glass after no power for ~2 weeks. It's not using the original tube/yoke

>>6210410
Is that all you're worried about? Just cleaning it?

>>6210417
It's been arcing, I'm a noob but been told to clean, reseat neckboard and check flyback/under anode for any bad insulation or carbon tracks. So there's a necessity to discharge to troubleshoot, I know a lot of people don't worry about discharging for just a clean

>>6210429
No, you're right though. Cleaning it is good. I just thought you meant recalibrating it.

>>6210440
Its a little out of focus in one corner but I don't want to touch the adjustment with screen running, especially if it's arcing somewhere. It's a flat tube so I might not be able to get it much better anyway. The yoke also has no convergence rings as far as I can tell (pic related)

>>6210447
>no convergence rings
Holy shit, dude. Yeah you gotta get those.

>>6210454
I don't know how I'd get another tube/yoke. Don't see CRTs very often near where I live and I can't drive so limited to posted items. Want to get a 14" PVM to play with and try to get it as perfect as possible
Firstly want to get this beast running, just been real concerned about hurting myself

>>6204220
>>6204476
>>6205920
Sorry for being late. I used an old ati 4300 card and a custom scart to vga cable. Look up CRT emudriver
https://youtu.be/5dDAT4fsTXY

>>6210391
You don’t need to ground it, just be sure you discharge the tube as you would discharge a capacitor. 8-bit guy has a few videos on how to do this. Don’t listen to retards who say you need to have the tube plugged in while you’re discharging it, there is no need to “ground” it that way

>>6198113
composite only but it still looks great!

>>6210391
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N39PZB8gYhk

Worth the 20 minute drive?

>>6210491
Better late than ever senpai.
Thanks.

>>6211402
What model?

>>6211402
Looks good to me.
What inputs does it have?
Also what this anon >>6211416 said.

>>6211416
CF36H40
>>6211419
Just composite, i already have a few good crt's but they are all 13 inches and i want one i can see from my couch

>>6211426
> composite
Well that kinda sucks, but hey, it's big, it's free and if properly calibrated composite looks good too, especially from a couch.
I say grab it.
Maybe you'll be able to rgb mod it later in the future.

>tfw ausfag
I feel like our CRT market is or was much smaller than the US, and that it's been picked clean.
I consider myself lucky to have a 20" 400 TVL PVM, but I confess I was kinda hoping one day to find an upgrade.

>no lowballers, I know what I’ve got

>>6211426
Weight: 71.4 kg

>>6211426

>>6211454
has s-video too which is a big bump up from composite. might be worth looking into s-video cables for your consoles if you get it.

>>6211437
PVM's are rediculous overkill for playing games, the colour calibration that they went through is not much benefit compared to movies which they were designed for.

>>6211518
t. poorfag

Hey, I just got a seemingly ancient CRT from my boss, Toshiba 2150TD it reads on the back. Didn't come with a remote or anything, but this thing turns on at the very least. I was trying to look for a manual, but all I can find on this thing is results for replacement remotes and outrageously priced service manuals, how old is this thing actually?

>>6211639
>Toshiba 2150TD
I found Toshiba 2150XS Manual

>>6211690
I did see this one around, would that be about the same thing? I'm not sure what the TD stands for, but I am guessing XS means extra small

Should I cop for that prison aesthetic?

>>6211694
Is 21inches so.. probably

were there black xbr 800 models released? I can't find any documentation on it

>>6202628
I have two 21BAs, its predecessor. Pretty neat displays. Think they did 1536p60 which nobody had a graphics card for back in '96.

>>6205620
Hell yeah small vgas are the best.

>>6211702
Probably trashed to shit

I think I just killed mine lads.

>>6211992
One does not disrespect the TV while in prison.

>>6212007
>be murderous nig in prison
>only solace is watching Pat Sajack and Vanna White
>some schizo spazz fucks up the TV
>dead/wishes he was dead schizo

>>6211518
PVMs and BVMs were often used for TV so they are perfect for the NTSC standard.

>>6211837

I really want to see one of these running one day. What a ridiculous oddball set. I feel like it could probably be amazing for 4:3 progressive scan content

Saw the first season of In Living Color at a salvation army for $5 yesterday. I wish I could easily find ISO's of old TV dvd's, any encode that I could play via ps3 for stuff like this destroys the framerate of NTSC 60i video.

>>6205620
low end VGA is based

>>6212359
key word to look for is DVD5 / DVD9

>>6212359
>any encode that I could play via ps3
Can't the PS3 act as a media server and straight-up play MP4s, AVIs and MKVs and shit? I could be wrong, but I feel like my friends and I used to do that all the time.

>>6212359
You can run Plex on ps3s
Way better than the very format limited stock video player on them.

>>6211518
I have a 14M4U which I actually got for free about 6 years ago. I didn't even know I had stumbled across something particularly special until the PVM craze started around mid-late 2017. My impressions are that it is a really nice CRT set, but not worth $250+. Especially considering it's almost 20-year-old hardware (and mine is a more recent unit manufactured in May of 2001). High-end consumer Trinitron (ie, XBR) and JVC D-series sets, honestly, look ALMOST as good and can easily be found for free, like here >>6211837.

>>6212005
Just look around for a new one. Guaranteed you will come across something good in the 20" range, for free, within a month.

>>6211436
If you want to know true CRT desperation, try living in Newfoundland. Take an island with under 500,000 people on it, where half the population is on the dole some way or another, and you're looking at a grim picture. We're talking the cheapest, shittiest consumer TVs and flickerfest monitors, many of which come from off-brands. I would shit myself if I found a 20" PVM for sale here. The best I've ever done on the CRT front was a 17" Sony E200, which I bought brand new from a liquidation auction in 2011 for $15. Everything since then has just been disappointments. I've basically given up searching and learned to be happy with my 27" Panasonic.

>>6214071
use crt-royale and quit bitching you stupid asshole

>>6212501
>>6212757
>>6212787

I'm referring to the fact that when stuff is ripped from dvd's into any format, it gets deinterlaced, so 90's/early 00s tv that uses 60i gets turned into 30fps progressive scan. I tested this theory out by using the PS3 netflix to play Trailer Park Boys on the CRT and it's an encode, so it doesn't actually feel like it's video from a camcorder anymore.

The solution to this if you're pirating is to find untouched dvd's, and while I'm aware that you can search for stuff and add "iso" "dvd5" etc, there was never any practical reason for most people to upload or download what would be 10's of gb's for a season of TV when most people are just going to watch it on their laptop or w/e and could get an encode that's a fraction of the size. I'll just have to keep my eyes peeled in the thrift stores probably, DVD's are peak worthless these days so people probably toss decent stuff all the time

>>6214880
What the fuck is CRT-royale? 4th time asking, fuckin' geez.

>>6215010
shader for Retroarch

This might come off as incredibly dense, but for the life of me I can't remember. I have a PVM-20L2MD, and I'm trying to output my Wii to it. I vaguely remember playing Pikmin a while ago on this TV, and it was by a physical disc. I only started recently hooking up my NA GameCube to my PVM via S-Video and then I have another European GameCube connected via SCART (so that's out of the question). Maybe I hooked up my GameCube a while ago and played it on there, but that doesn't sound likely because I don't remember playing with nauseating interlacing, so I assume I played on my Wii. However, I am getting absolutely no sync when hooking my component cables up to it and have tried changing my OPT RBG SYSTEM setting in the menu to COMP/INT and COMP/EXT. Maybe I'm connecting stuff wrong? Maybe it's in the wrong place? I dunno.

>>6215852
Also, I have tried both the OUT and IN connections, neither work. This Component hookup might just be for something else, but I could have sworn I used it before.

>>6214880
>>6215037
>forgetting where you are

>>6215853
is it possible that something simple like the Wii being stuck in the wrong output mode? I don't remember how the Wii handles i/p switching

Where are you guys finding these free CRT's? I'm checking my local craigslist and there's NOTHING.

Also, will using a hdmi to vga cable adapter affect monitor performance?

>>6215881
That would be it, thanks anon. It seems the screen is incredibly washed out though. Maybe bad connection?

>>6215901
I fixed it, plugged it into the wrong connection.

>>6215891
I'd see them for under 50 or next to nothing near me but they're not as common as they used to be here. depends on your area. try facebook marketplace as not as many people use cl as they used to

I believe you'll get some noticable lag in games with that adapter

>>6215901
awesome anon glad I could help

>>6215910

really? sounds like most adapters don't introduce lag afaik, what makes you say that:

https://www.reddit.com/r/crtgaming/comments/7xr9uc/hdmi_to_vga_adapter/duanwkg/

>>6215927
that one seems pretty good. some of them scale the signal and that can affect it for sure. also watch out for supported resolutions depending on what you're using it with. sometimes they don't display certain ones at all

You guys ever restore an old monitor's case? Here's a pic of one I just bought on eBay. As you can see, there are some deep scrape on the side, as well as some discoloration. I was going to fill the gaps with this: https://www.hobbytown.com/deluxe-materials-perfect-plastic-putty-40ml-dlmbd44/p249436.. Any thoughts or suggestions to restore this case?

>>6215891
Lag and probably small audio distortion

>>6215891
if you use a good one it wont. get a portta hdmi to vga, the dongle sized one.
>>6215940
wrong. this is only true for the shitty china ones that scale the image.

>>6216009
You are correct

I'm looking for a CRT for retro console emulation at my desktop computer, but my graphics card is too new to output analog, any adapter recommendations? Are they worth it at all? I've got my eye on the Delock 62967 right now.

>>6216078
get the delock, it's ideal for most people.

http://junkerhq.net/xrgb/index.php?title=Analogue_video_output_options_for_OSSC#Tested_HDMI.2FDVI_to_VGA_adapters

>>6210491
I'm a noob at all this and dont want to fuck something up or blow a bunch of cash at nothing. For vga to component, is just a wire with the proper input/output acceptable as long as my graphics card is comparable with CRTemudrive? Or do I need one of those conveter boxes? I'm pretty sure it's the first but again, I dont want to fuck this up

>>6198264
what game?

>>6216152
Grandia

>>6216142
I don't know about component but check this thread out http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=158223.0

Since my Trinitron is a yuro model it only has scart, and the vga to scart cable is custom made so it handles the sync properly.

>>6216192
Ah thanks for the help. Ive learned I need to do way more research. I'm thinking I'll just dedicated a second computer for it since I've just learned my output situation is quite a mess. It's looking like a much easier method would to just forget dealing my my primary pc and just dedicate another machine with more friendly output to the task

>>6216009
based, thanks

>>6214880
>emulate the look of a CRT
>still have all the disadvantages of an LCD

Take your simulacrum and shove it up your ass

>>6215901
Does changing the brightness/contrast do anything?

>>6215939
This shit technically works, but if you never worked with it before then the repair will likely be noticeable, and you will also need to paint it afterwards. I just left the gashes in my monitor case- they remind me of how I saved it from the recyclers.

>>6216078
The Sunix DPU3000 was sort of the gold standard because it had no additional input lag. Unfortunately it seems to have been discontinued and the only models left are from scalpers on eBay, but the Delock 87685 is identical and cheaper.

>>6216624
I the dpu3000 and delock 87685 are only really useful for people with really nice monitors. the 62967 seems to go up the 330mhz though, which is a bit above the 270mhz it's rated for in the datasheet so it should work for the vast majority of people.

>tfw you will never set foot in the CRT shop

>>6216642
Steins;Gate was ahead of the curve when it comes to love of CRTs considering it came out in 2009.

>>6215871
i don't recommend this shit.

Yo, people are giving away free Sony Trinitrons like crazy in Florida. I love it.

>>6217103

Wegas are pretty easy to come by most places, they were pretty popular back in the day. If you can find one with component that doesn't have too bad of geometry it's a good set. Not 100% ideal for /vr/ but amazing for watching DVDs and 3D games

>>6217135
>too bad of geometry
What do you mean?
>Not 100% ideal for /vr/
Retro games are the only thing still giving CRTs any value at all.

>>6217153

Why are you @ing me just to show off how little you know? Fuck off.

Wegas are flat tube trinitrons, like the one pictured in that post. Almost all of them, especially bigger ones, have issues with geometry ie wavy scrolling, bowing, etc to some extent.

These flaws are most noticable with simple static 2D graphics. You don't notice it nearly as much with more complex 3D imagery or video. So, depending on your intended usage, a Wega will be more suited to some people than others, who might look into a curved set instead.

>>6204287
based contrarian shitposting retard

>>6216642
>>6216661
I appreciate how this show gave us a perfect mascot.

>>6217168
the dying brain stems this post causes is traumatizing. You have no ideas what the actual fuck you're talking about.

>>6217381
he's an asshole but he's not wrong. why don't you tell us what's wrong about the post?

>>6217389
2D are superior on flat screen CRTs. Thinking that a bulb shape CRT brings some sort of 3rd dimension to a 2D game is retarded.

>>6217414
you're the fucking retard cause you can't even interpret what's being said. flat screen crts are only externally flat and this causes warping geometry issues on side scrolling elements, this is most noticeable on 2d stuff but you don't really notice it on 3d content.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACqnI3X1Cgw

>>6216661
>ahead of the curve
I love subtle CRT puns

>>6217352
You're referring to Mr. Braun (Tennouji), I assume. Suzuha didn't actually give a shit about CRTs, she spent all her time fucking around with her bike.

>you will never get free CRTs from your /fit/ af landlord

>>6217506
>ywn work part time at Mr Braun's tube shop
>ywn work with hot as fuck Suzuha surrounded by CRTs
>ywn learn how to maintain CRTs from a master like Mr Braun
Im in pain...

>>6214071
Scotland is the same desu, I'm not driving down to Leeds or London or some shit for a CRT, even if its a nice one. Just make due with this shitty 20 inch daewoo I've got.

>>6217558
Dude what? CRTs are all over ebay and the facebook marketplace and even Gumtree. I got a FW900 for £200 not too long ago in St Andrews.

>>6217571
I check like once every few days christ, though I have been keeping a radius of 50 miles around East Lothian, maybe I should expand that on FB marketplace.

>>6217575
Glasgow is a bit of a gold mine in my experience but anywhere around the central belt should be good.

>>6214071
That sucks bro. I'm about 2 hours south of portland and would be willing to drive to Seattle for a decent monitor and there's fucking NOTHING. You'd think some boomer would have one laying around

Would a maternity ward use PVMs/BVMs?

My local hospital has an abandoned maternity ward, last used in 2008, in the basement of the hospital. I was contemplating contacting the director, so get a freebie, but I would need as much information as possible what what kind of equipment was hooked up to them.

>>6217591
You're an idiot if you get PVMemed but here you go https://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/ele/d/portland-pvm-20n6u/7076697314.html
You're obviously an idiot since you couldn't search "PVM" on craigslist anyways.

>>6218228
Fuckin' faggot.

>>6218220
They may very well be if it hasn't been liquidated since 2008. Endoscopy carts could have been used there. I don't know if it's the same for your state, but most lots like pic related require a 'medical salvage license' in order to purchase them if the monitors aren't being sold separately.

>>6210491
Any easy way to get all those roms to play on retroarch and have that fancy menu option? New to the emulator as a whole and wouldn't mind having a setup like the video's if it means perfect emulation on a CRT all around.

What model is on his desk?

>>6218281

This is exactly the kind of information I needed. Thank you, anon.

>>6198238
>Kijiji
As a fellow Canuck I understand this. There are so many entitled cunts in our cuntry. It's not enough something is free. They want you to lick their ass while they take it from you. Fuck this place.

>>6216009
which one? I see multiple portta boxes on amazon now and dont know which one to get, ahhhhhhhh!

>>6218228
Hmm, I was only searching for crt monitor, maybe that's why the results were scarce.

>>6218228
Also, I don't want a big ugly tv. I already have a comfy portable crt with built in vhs player. I only want to collect crt computer monitors, the Sony PVM is something that doesn't interest me at all. Stop making assumptions stupid faggot.

>>6218467
https://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/sys/d/wilkeson-18-vga-computer-monitor/7078031783.html
Knock yourself out kiddo

>>6218470
It was so hard to find a computer monitor, I searched for computer monitor. Fucking idiot.

>>6218463
sorry I was mistaken, the one I'm thinking of is the tendak which looks like this. the portta ones work good too.

>>6218561
im gonna get the hdmi to vga/ypbpr portta

>>6218228
>N6U
I actually own one of these. They're pretty much the lowest end of the PVM range, but it at least still has RGB. Major difference is I bought mine for $50, several years before the great CRT inflation.

>>6218459
I hear you man. The absolute worst people to deal with on Kijiji are white working class Canadians, and Indians. Fuck Indians, they're not happy until they've squeezed everything out of you. But workies and their "you owe me because, fuck you, you owe me" attitude are also irritating to deal with.

>>6218482
Literally cannot find any information on this monitor. But if it is anything like the one at the link below, then seems to be an ok monitor.

https://www.cnet.com/products/sylvania-sc190-crt-monitor-19-series/

Also God help me if Cnet ever removes their CRT specs.

>>6218619
i grabbed a dell m782p today, what do you think about that?

>>6218661
I'm 95% sure those are the CRT monitors my school used to have. They're... alright. Not the highest resolution or refresh rate, but if you got it for free it's not bad. I believe it's a Philips tube. Be warned that the cases on those late Dell CRTs are fragile and can crack easily.

>>6218693
yeah its a philips tube, i thought it was a trinitron cuz its flat and there are a ton of dell trinitron rebadges, but nope, philips. Yeah it was free and perfect for me cuz it can do higher resolution than the other black dell I have, just wish it were a curvy boy

>>6218694
philips made good shit. I bet the whole monitor was made by philips desu.

>>6217580
You know what was doing some work up in Fife very early today, decided to just look at FB marketplace, found a dell e771p for free, not a very high end monitor but I'm happy with it for now honestly.

>>6218786
Philips made good shadow mask monitors, not quite as good as NEC, but much better than the Samsung SyncMasters (which seem to be everywhere). If I'm not mistaken, Philips still manufactures CRTs for niche applications like medical and aerospace. If anyone were going to jump on the "DeLuxe Gamer short-neck CRT monitor HI DEF" bandwagon, they would have the capabilities to be first.

>>6218485
wtf is your problem? I specifically said I was looking for crt computer monitors and said they were hard to find, what do you not understand? Searching for just computer monitor will give you millions of fucking non-crt results.

>>6219631
>feeding the trolls

id this model please?

I did it guys. I fell for it. Flat screen Trinitron.

Please send condolences and tips for how to fix the geometry on this thing.

>>6218661
It looks similar to my Dell M992 which has served me incredibly well for almost a decade now. Good get.

>>6218286
No idea. What are those two boxes on top of the monitor?

>>6219696
Looks like a Cinco MIDI Organizer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSwqnR327fk

guys i have crt monitor that when connected to a laptop is detected, windows identifies it by the model number, etc, but when I power it on, the screen never changes, it looks like it is off only with an led that says it's on


what is going on here?

How do you guys fix scratches on your monitors? Does the toothpaste method really work?

>>6219631
Just sort low-high price and the bottom is always crts, old people selling their old computer stuff and tv's don't say crt, they just say telly or pc monitor.

>>6219680

Service menu can fix scan size/placement if thats off, make some things straighter via pincushion adjustments. Soft focus/convergence in the corners can be attempted to be fixed by opening up the tv, and you could be successful, wavy scrolling I've never seen any examples of people fixing

>>6219886
Wavy scrolling and bowing in the right side of the screen are what I can't fix. Absolute trash, were they this shitty when they were brand new?

>>6201880
Why are people giving this guy shit? He's right

>>6203490
Thanks, I just bought one.

i have an rca 20F510TD, tried 5-6 universal remotes on it, tried multiple rca brand remotes, nothing works.

What do I do? Find the actual official original remote? Swap out the IR sensor?

>>6219920
Yes. Why the fuck didn't you try that in the first place?

>>6219974
idk how :(

are ir sensors easy to swap out? do i need an exact match?

>>6219980
Omg anon, yes. The exact model of your RCA is on that back of the TV. Type that with "remote" at the end on Google and I promise the remote you'll need will show up on sale. Most likely eBay.

>>6220008
i mean what if it turns out the ir sensor is bad? I have an official rca universal remote that is preprogrammed to work with rca tvs and yet it isnt even doing anything.

I love this unit and im not able to use it :(

>>6211702
i'd take one in just for its looks even if it were composite only.

>>6220023
It's super easy if you already have a small soldering pen because then you can just pick up a replacement at Radio shack and do it yourself. It's like swapping out an LED light. Just solder positive and negative in their sockets.

>>6212359
i think on PS3 webman can mount a DVD ISO but i haven't tried it.

What's /vr/'s choice for a component switcher? Pretty much all my consoles I run through component except the my N64(S-Video) and my NES(composite). Also is there one that will put the video signal and run it to multiple TV's?

>>6220069
i bought a gcompsw but i expect that's more than most people are willing to spend.
it auto selects the first signal it gets and outputs it to two outputs. i have it plugged into my CRT and HDTV that are near each other, so i can see 480i on both simultanously and 240p/480p on the one that supports it.
each input also has composite so i use it for a couple composite things.

>>6220080
>$200
Wew. That is pretty expensive. Though it looks way better than any I've looked at like the Pelican 960. Thanks Anon. I'll probably just save up and get it.

Is the Bang Olufsen MX7000 worth 199€?

What's a good sub 20 bucks DP to VGA adaptor?

>>6220180
Sort of. It's one of the best sets out there but depending where you live they might be semi-common and so not worth that. If it's in great condition I'd take it and never replace it personally.

>>6219887

They've always been like that. In 2002 the target audience for them would have been people looking for something to play DVDs and GTAIII on, and they do those things pretty well. I think they probably were aware of the issues but the novelty of having a "flat" screen and most people not getting them for SNES ensured they sold well. I think I've heard people say Toshiba and other good brands of flat CRT could be a bit better than Sony for geometry. I've grown to accept and love mine, flaws and all, but I also mostly play 5th and 6th gen.

>>6219729
find out what resolutions it supports maybe? or select different ones

>>6219680
sell it to someone and get a tube crt or use that one for 3d games where it's not usually as noticable

>>6220212
>>6220245
time to kill myself

>>6220039
can you recommend a sensor for me to buy? I can't find any parts for this unit, thanks anon

>>6220069
buy two of these, use one for audio, one for video:


https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DRGDBTG
https://www.reddit.com/r/crtgaming/comments/f34vgn/poor_mans_extron_crosspoint_thought_this_might/

anyone know what game this is?

>>6220471
oddity, it's a mother 4-touting fan game

Newfag to this, mostly just lurk so sorry if this is a dumb question
Is this worth a half hour drive or would I be wasting my time?

>>6220605
yeah it would be worth it

>>6219790
I've read toothpaste for plasma and something else (maybe Vaseline?) for LCD. CRTs I'd be looking into glass scratch repair, but iirc some have a front coating and no idea if it would cause an issue
Curious since my VESA tree fell over and got a scratch on LCD

>>6219790

https://www.reddit.com/r/crtgaming/comments/f7vnzc/crt_scratch_removal_and_geometry_correction/

>>6219920
Read warnings about universal remotes on CRTs on this board. I'd go original or try Android phone/Mission Impossible on GBC failing all else

>>6220676
it's an rca official remote with pre-programmed codes for rca televisions....

>>6220605
If you don't already have a CRT yes, if you do then no because flat screens are garbage

>>6215001
Raw 480/576i DVD is packed into 30/25FPS so may still need to run it through a fancy deinterlacer to get to 480/576p to have the player run at the proper 50/60FPS if it doesn't support splitting the packed frames into fields directly.

>>6220259
sorry about the bad news. something similar happened to me
>had one jvc flat for years packed away for years with my retro games and figured my collection was complete
>went to unpack everything in the room it was going into
>boot up Mario World and see a funhouse mirror
>spend countless hours adjusting in service menu to end up with a frankensteined aspect ratio
worst part is that I missed out on years of casually looking for good crts. It's currently sitting on my floor in that room because I can't even justify giving it away for free since I screwed with the menu so much
thankfully days later I overheard someone randomly talking about their giant tv they couldn't even give away while I was walking my dog and ended up with a giant hitachi beast that seems good. the point I guess is it isn't the end of the world. they're still out there and easy to get and you don't have to rush it even in 2020

>>6220605
take this >>6219680 into account. also it may be embarrassing but make sure and test it in general. take a console, a vcr, anything you can test it with really. you don't want to end up with something you may have to pay to recycle and just because its free, you're still doing them a favor hauling it away so make sure it works for you

So is there really no fix at all for wavy scrolling on a flatscreen
pretty mad about it

>>6201983
Do you have access to a search engine?

>>6221829
PVMs are pretty flat and can have perfect geometry, but on a Wega? Not really. With some effort in the service menu you can usually get something decent though

>>6201983
>Idk what that is.
A waste of time that only looks ok in screenshots

are all trinitrons good, or are there specific models to look out for?

>>6221984
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aFhzGEBQlk

>>6221984
>are all trinitrons good
flat screens are shit

>>6222005
Prove it, faggot.

>>6201847
>flatscreen CRT
you're making a big mistake anon

>>6211432
maybe he can get it RGB modded.

>>6215907
was it that you had to use the IN ports instead of the out? Also keep EXT SYNC OFF always unless you're transcoding to RGB or using a real rgb source.

>>6198113
PC is garbage.
>>6198282
>Yes, that's correct. Not interesting at all.
>>6198183
They look great as furniture, but they're shit tier as screens unfortunately.
>>6198186
OK.
>>6198743
>a kind anon told me about Open Camera and my pics started to look a lot better.
Just came back after a month or two, glad I helped someone.
>>6199338
Correct. Unless you have an actual SCART TV.
>>6199489
cope harder.
(it's not bad, but you're still coping.)
>>6199587
Bit harsh.
>>6199624
>downscaling instead of changing the quantization matrix via a 'quality' slider in an image editor
>>6199893
I'd also like a PC-9801, but that's one of the reasons I haven't yet. I have two multiscan CRT's that can do 15khz and neither support 24khz.
A real shame.
>>6200330
Largely true, but not all are made to the same tolerances and I'd take a worn-to-hell 20L5 over a brand new slot-mask sylvania set which would probably already have purity issues.
>>6201847
Pretty good. If I was in an area where non-flat tubes don't show up free often, then I'd be happy with it.

>>6222019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYzvoTE2BUY

>>6222129
>Not using focus adjustment
>Not recalibrating
>Not using a scaler
Clearly retro games aren't for you.

>>6222148
>using a scaler for retro vidya instead of using a monitor that supports your video resolution

>>6222152
I own a flat screen Trinitron. All it has is S-vid, composite, and components. Made in 2001.

>>6222181
OK, so what does that have to do with using a scaler?

>>6203675
RGB.
>>6203773
>Scart and VGA
You mean RGB.

>>6198734
>>6198346
90s JVC is just panasonic.
Which is a good thing.

Have a CRT suspected of arcing under anode cap, so ordered some IPA to clean it and some Corona dope to apply under cap. Is it the right thing to use or am I retarded? I thought people said they'd applied it for that reason, but now everything I find says to use it for flyback repair, and dielectric grease under the cap. Did I goof?

>>6222152
hey wyatt, how are you?

>>6215939
have you ever done anything like this before? if not, its more than likely going to look worse, it takes years of experience working with plastics to sand and fill them right and you will likely be disappointed in the results

>>6218286
Is he wearing pc glasses?

>>6222268
Hi; I'm doing rather well.
>>6222242
Grease for the cap.

>>6203416
God the image is so crisp and clean.

>>6222501
i took apart my first crt and wanna shoot the shit with you about it, you still on irc?

>>6222501
Only thing I can get easily is Permatex brand (Supercheap Auto in Oz), says its for spark plugs but no indication on suitable voltage. Tube is 27" but no idea what sort of voltage I'm looking at. Does it overly matter or any old El cheapo should do the job?

>>6222554
which network? (efnet/freenode/whatever)

Just put two of my CRT's back together.

Here's the more ironic one.

>>6222569
i think i used to chat with you on some nes dev chatroom?

I took apart a dell e770s and im afraid to touch anything lmao

>>6222574
Not him, but usually the high voltage stuff is clearly marked with warnings.

>>6222579
i need to discharge it but im scared

>>6222582
Don't worry, if you do it properly, you'll be fine. It helps to have a voltage detector too, if you're not sure.

>>6222574
yeah, that'd be on efnet. Just /pm my username while joined on efnet. no need to join nesdev.

>>6222589
You'd kill most voltmeters with >10KV. A "detector" might be fine though.

>>6222681
thanks b

>>6222689
my username wasn't correct, if you tried you might need to do it again now

>>6222707
pm'd

I just managed to get one of these Orion televisions, does anyone have any insight on dissembling and cleaning? The thing is covered in dirt and there appears to be a bit of grim on the Audio and Video sockets

>>6222790
i have a similar if not the same one, i wanna rgb mod it but im scared, have you search for a service manual and do you have a discharging tool?

>>6222795
>i have a similar if not the same one
It's a model No.1333, if that helps
>have you search for a service manual
There's a ton of them, so I'm really not sure what I'm looking for
>do you have a discharging tool?
Thats the tool that drains out all the electric that's left inside of the CRT, right? If that's the case then I better get myself one before I start unscrewing

>>6222836
>>6222795
>discharging tool
Just use a flathead screwdriver and a binder clip.

Reflowed a neckboard today.
>>6222836
>>6222795
You guys gotta just get over the fear and do it.
(Don't let your dreams be dreams)

>>6198113

What is the best dreamcast video cable to use on a big trinitron? These aftermarket s-video cables I'm seeing for sale online don"t look too promising quality wise but I don't what else the TV will support.

>>6223648
RGB with a modded tv.
Or just whatever s-video cable you feel like. Fatter is usually nicer quality but it'll be okay. Really.
There is no single brand that's "best (tm)."

God damn, there must be other retro gamers in my area or something, because every Trinitron I find on Facebook or Craigslist gets swooped on immediately. I found a 36" in Craigslist last night that had only been up for 8 hours and someone else already got to it before me. I'm just gonna shoot for a Panasonic or Toshiba at this point, I'd have to watch the listings like a hawk to get a Trinitron.

How feasible would it be fix this? Keep in mind its a 30 minute drive so it would be an inconvenience.

>>6224786

dawg we have literally no idea what's wrong with it, how would we even begin to advise you?

>>6224795
idk either but how feasible is it to fix a crt in general?

>>6224786
>30 minute drive (one way?) for a broken tv
That'd be a no from me.

>>6224803
If you don't know how to solder, don't even bother.

Going to work on my first CRT tomorrow but I'm a pussy and scared of getting zapped (working on anode/flyback). Encouragement stories?

>>6224803
Know what you're doing with safety etc but see
https://www.repairfaq.org/sam/tvfaq.htm#tvcrt

>>6208606
?

>>6224803
>how feasible is it to fix a crt in general?
Depending on the exact problem, anywhere from "feasible" to "infeasible".

I've got a daewoo tv and every time I go into the service menu to set the horizontal position it resets after I turn the tv off to get out of service mode, any ideas whats with this?

>>6224803
Check out Retro Tech on youtube

When using a graphics card with no analog output, is it useful to search for a later CRT with HDMI input, or am I better off using a standalone digital to analog converter? Would such a CRT even work with a modern HDMI output?

>>6226235
Anything with HDMI will be 100hz 16:9 if it matters to you
It's pretty easy to go HDMI -> VGA, any display yet or only sussing out options?

>>6203675
would it look better if you were using a ps1 with hdmi adapter on your tv instead of using components ?

>>6226235
VGA to HDMI converters work perfectly

>>6198113
what do these do. do they work with any crt tv ?
do you have to have electrical or soldering knowledge to put on in ?

which converters work seamlessly?

>>6226235
displayport to vga adapter

>>6226458
No, had you bothered to read anything at all about the product you would see it needs and IFB slot

>>6218220
Is that a Melee tournament?

>>6226241
Thanks for the info, no desktop display yet but I'm looking for 4:3 so that's good to know. Already got a delock DP to VGA converter >>6226504 so I'm just hoping to find a decent monitor before I kill myself trying to RGB mod my TV lol.

>>6225038
>working on anode/flyback
F

>>6224786
>plug it in
>it spontaneously combusts
Not worth it. Let trashman take it and keep looking.

>>6199893
>I'm thinking of buying a PC98
Get a laptop. They have worldwide power supplies, 31kHz VGA output, and of course a built-in monitor. The better models even have an onboard YM2608 and composite NTSC TV out so you can wire that right up to any regular TV.

I want something a little bigger than 20 inches but I want something better than a consumer tv. Any recommendations?

>>6226634
>31kHz VGA output
Do games actually leave the display 31kHz or do they tend to switch to 24kHz mode?

>>6226458
Those are for CRT projectors. As >>6226507 implied, you need something with a Sony IFB interface, and the ones for other brands of projectors have their own mystery connectors.

>>6226646
I've only played Touhou, Ys 1/2/3, and YU-NO but those all keep the VGA at 31k. For the TV out it just works as long as your tube works with NTSC.

Can someone explain to me how a monitor could be causing a power surge through its VGA cable

The monitor doesn't work when plugged into certain devices because of it

>>6226705
An internal short somewhere in the cable. If it's detachable use a different cable. Otherwise cut one end off another VGA cable, open the monitor up, and solder it on where it goes.

>>6226712
why would it work sometimes and not just fail completely

>>6226715
Because the insulation might still be a little intact. If you've ever messed with a broken audio or composite video cable you'd know. If it's not in the perfect position you get no signal.