/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[2-10] Nobody Told Me About id v0.1.2 - A Build Engine-styled mod
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TMDyzC2ARg&feature=emb_title

[2-8] Russian Overkill hotfixed.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=29915&p=1136358#p1136358

[2-6] Bigger keys for Redneck Rampage
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=354&t=67237

[2-6] Rampancy, Yholl's new monster mod based around robots
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=67193

[2-5] Raze, a Build engine source port backed by GZDoom tech
https://github.com/coelckers/Raze
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT4mZUwuoXQ

[2-5] Russian Overkill celebrates 10 years with a 3.0 release
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=29915&p=1135514#p1135514

[2-4] DBP20 released, an eight-map episode for Doom 2
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/111782-dbp20-dungeons-and-demons/

[2-2] 32 level megawad Czechbox released
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/czechbox

[2-1] Jimmy, Dragonfly, AD_79, and MTrop will attempt to make an entire megawad in 24 hours while livestreaming the whole thing.
Stream starts 6:00 UTC, Feb. 8th
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/111094

[1-31] War Trophies updated to v1.1
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=67054

[1-30] MetaDoom in need of some testing for feedback
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=53010&sid=9eda803bcd8d257f71290769acb19f74&start=1665#p1134341

[1-30] La Tailor Girl follower mod released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=67163

[1-29] Doom Eternal to allegedly not have any MTX
https://youtu.be/7bw65h8yeXI

[1-28] January Jump Jam released
http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61832

[1-24] Champions monster randomizer is updated to v2.666
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=60456

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>>6194116
>Doom Guy gets Daisy some valentine's carrots
>Doom Guy gets a chainsaw signed from Daisy
>so who really got him the chainsaw

How'd you guys like the Build-engine Doom game?

I wanna replace a texture. Should I just put its replacement in the wad with the same lump name?

>>6194131
Nobody Told Me About id+Knee Deep in the ZDoom-lite/BDHell on Earth- Vanilla Improved is a weird but fun experience

>>6194131
>>6194140
Played through D2TWIDD with it yesterday and had a great time.
Thanks for the new mapsets, I was looking for something a bit more Build-ish to try it with

>>6194140
Doesn't KDiZD lite have keycard issues?

>>6194140
The movement in NTMAi feels super tight, I'm interested to see how the weapons are changed up in the future.
With NTMAi in beta and Raze being tested, we're reaching peak Doom-Build convergance

>>6194149
Potentially? I haven't actually got that far using lite.

>>6194145
If you can think of any super detailed/Build-like mapsets give a shout

>>6194104

>>6194169
What weapon sprite set is that?

>>6194169
what are you gonna do with 6 bullets gunlet

>>6194176
Six is more than enough to kill anything that moves.

>>6194207
Damn. This is nice.

>>6194104
Thanks for stepping up and making the new thread.

>>6194256
who's cucking caleb, Turok?

Say something nice about TNT Evilution

>>6194258
noice

>>6194270
cool music

>>6194273
Turok 2's blood and gore is so fucking good.

>>6194273
next time i install turok 2 i gotta remember to find the blood mod that replaces all that high res oversaturated shit with actual authentic blood textures
oh wait all that shit was on the now-dead facepunch, fuck

>>6194270
I like tnt map01 better than plutonia map01

>>6194273
God damn, the animation in Turok 2 are so fucking good.

>>6194280
https://web.archive.org/web/20190406030456/https://forum.facepunch.com/
https://github.com/voxelizedworld/FPArchive

Also a lot of people moved to Knockout, you can always ask in their retro fps thread

>>6194270
More interesting maps and better monster usage than both Doom 1 and Doom 2.

>>6194270
Made me appreciate group projects made by teams and fans more

>>6194256
wait who's bobby then?
a cacodemon?

>>6194338
Master Chief

>>6194210
Do you want it? It's free to use, just put Chopblock in the credits of whatever you're doing.

>>6194341
Ok, sure.
I just thought a caco or pinky would of been funnier.

>>6194346
I should have figured it was you. You're getting really good with these weapons.

>>6194264
Yes.

>>6194270
Great atmosphere and feel, while Doom and Doom 2 plays at a lived in and used future aesthetic, TNT sells it even better, all the techbases feel old and used, like they've been in use for a century and has seen limited maintenance and upgrades.
>Yeah, it's the future and we have a space base near Jupiter and we have plasma guns, but the UAC got a killer deal on this warehouse stocked to the roof with old-ass sporting shotguns, they're from back when people still regularly put wood furniture on guns, anyway they still work just fine, 12-Gauge is 12-Gauge, it's not like it's a musket.
Lots of old rusty metal paneling, piping, dusty concrete, old tapereel computers, still running. The occasional quasi-realism through sector furniture and other 'lifelike' detail makes it feel just a bit more alive.

Looking at say, Map 18, Mill, you can imagine that last big arena as having been used perhaps as a storehouse or factory floor at one point, but was cleared out for whatever reason, so what you have is this giant empty locale with rough concrete walls, cold and dusty to the touch, and no matter how slowly and quietly you try to move, you can't stop the old floorboards from creaking, echoing through the halls, the monsters all know you're there already.

The music is also part of the atmosphere, some of the droning and foreboding ambient tracks like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L87Igz5MnpQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9eiFujqcCk
It really fits for being in a dark and disused industrial facility, you alone against all the evil horrors. TNT overall has some really great music, I love the melodies.

In terms of gameplay, there are weak parts, there are some maps which are quite bad, but I think the majority of them range from decent to good, though you're mostly running out of them by the last third.
I personally love the high frequency of zombiemen, lending itself to lots of all out gunfights, and of course lots of infighting, my favorite mechanic of Doom.

>>6194387
Open Season sounds like a song from episode 2 of Duke.

>>6194398
Kinda. I really love Duke Nukem 3D's atmospheric tracks.

i think that, much like quake 2, the best part of tnt was the music
their other parts can be what they may, but their music out-does their contemporaries overall

i should probably block out some rotations but what's the point when the maps aren't done and he's not being used; plus this not really being a sprite.

>>6194161
>If you can think of any super detailed/Build-like mapsets give a shout
I just found something you might find interesting:
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/74280-the-ultimate-doom-ii-doom-ii-levels-remade/
This mod reworks a whole bunch of Doom 2 levels and makes them look a bit more like a real place.

Also, not a mapset, but get this:
http://thekinsie.com/doommisc/doomrla_kinsie_metaprops.pk3
Makes all the props destructible. Pretty good for that build engine feel.

>>6194387
My issue with it sending hoards of zombiemen at you is that you never have to worry about ammo, you'll always be topped off.

Demonsteele.

>>6186885
Too late but I just played it
Pretty ok map, the visuals are nice, monster placement is great at the start but underwhelming at the end
Also, fix this

Software or OpenGL? Which one has objectively the best combination of atmosphere and visual fidelity?

>>6194104
Walking into the start of the next level > Plutonia portals > Regular portals > Doors next to an Exit sign > Killing an IoS > Killing an IoS and dying <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Fireblu portals

>>6194756
>greater than suddenly switches to lesser than
??

>>6194760
here comes the maths nerd. Get back in the locker

Anyone know this Doom 1 pwad map where you could pick between between multiple items, one was a Plasma Gun, and then the other items got crushed?
I think it was a DTWID map, but it might've been one of the ones that didn't make it into the final package.

>>6194826
no end in sight and dtwid-le might have it, both are made from unused dtwid levels.

>>6194104
Any mods/maps where it is all berserk pack, all the time?

Has anyone tried D4T with something like Champions? I forgot how ball crushing D4T is even on Normal.

>>6194270
I am playing it right for the first time. It's pretty enjoyable and feels fair.

It doesn't seem very hardcore, so if you are the kind of person who plays Plutonia on Nightmare it will be boring, but I'm not that kind of person.

alright, I know everyone says this, but it's different for me
I always wanted to make video games, because I really like playing them
Recently, about for the last 8 months, I've been on a massive retro FPS bender, which has finally given me the inspiration I need to make my debut game
It's gonna combine all the best aspects of all the best shooters. One thing in particular, in fact the first idea I had, was to limit vertical aiming unless holding mouse 2. This will emulate the faster paced action in Doom, as I feel only needing to aim on one axis makes the gameplay feel faster. Holding M2 will also make players less inclined with these kind of games ("zoomies") feel more comfortable, as it would resemble the gameplay mechanic of looking down the sites, as you would only enable freelook when you need precision. This would also disable the autoaim (only available vertically! so aiming is still important!), naturally. In fact I wish there was a mod for Doom itself with this gameplay feature, as I think that would combine the best of both worlds.

The game will also have 1v1 mulitplayer, modeled after fighting games like Tekken and Soul Calibre.

>>6194950
Start small, guy. Maybe one mechanic or one map and see how you feel. I don't like your ideas, but someone else might. Also, fuck me, they could be incredible and I just can't imagine it.

>>6194950
I think you should make a WAD out of that first to see if you, let alone people, like it.

Should I play plutonia? Im scared.

>>6194970
I played it once and probably even beat it on Hurt Me Plenty. It's not that bad. I guess on UV it's much worse.

Although I might've actually failed to ever beat the city level and am confused.

>>6194970
Just do it and if you don't like it you can stop. I doubt anyone here has psychic senses to know if you decided to quit.

I want to try and make a map I always wanted to make again. I think I understand most logic behind doom builder and just need to refresh on controls, but is there any obscure advice that would make it more efficient?

>>6194578
There's that, which you can help by adding more dangerous monsters to the mix in general.

This looks so much worse than in my imagination lmao. But at least I managed to texture it all. How do I make this place look less awful?

>>6194738
I prefer OpenGL for undistorted level geometry and freelook. It lets me get a better look at how the levels look, and makes maneuvering just a little smoother.

>>6195045
Don't make the walls STARTAN
Don't make that one platform made out of cobblestone with lights, basically aim for some kind of visual theme.

Return to Castle Wolfenstein is the closest thing to a proper Quake 3 singleplayer that exists.

>>6195045
When I try to imagine what you were picturing, the biggest improvement I could suggest is maybe differ the lighting? Make it more varied?

>>6195053
Yeah, I'll get onto it. The platform in the middle is supposed to be an elevator repeatedly rising to connect different pairs of catwalks, but I haven't gotten there yet.

>>6195057
Aaaah, ok, that's a neat idea. But yeah, seconding the lighting.

>>6194503
Thanks anon, I'm digging that additional bit of destruction in firefights
What other props does it affect outside of lights?

I don't like pistol starts.
I feel it kinda of defeats the point of megawads.

I downloaded the mouse aim fix for doom64ex, but there's this weird issue where the game- or at least the mouse input seems to skip every 90 degrees or so I turn. It's very distracting, does anyone know what I'm talking about?

>>6195084
To pistol start or not pistol start, it's a very subjective matter.

I'm keeping learning Doom Builder and I can't figure out what makes switch re-pressable or not re-pressable. I think I missed it in the explaination and can't find it.

>>6195085
For the record, this isn't the issue where the mouse instantly snaps to the center of the screen when you try to move it at all- this is more like a nauseating hitching that becomes extra apparent if I try to strafe and move the mouse at the same time. It snaps back a bit for a second before going in the direction I want it to.

The only acknowledgement I found of this problem was a single forum post with a brainlet reply saying "bro works on my machine change your config files"

>>6195125
Repeatable action flag?

>>6195141
Should be SR, right? I think I screwed myself by putting another SR on nearby line which resulted in having two goes to open the door.

>>6195074
Basically everything. Candelabras, tech pillars, all kinds of trees, impaled and hanging corpses... The only thing I noticed wasn't affected so far was the short green stone pillar, which makes sense I guess.

There isn't an easy way to just increase the scale of everything, is it? I horribly fucked up size of everything, I should probably just start over.

At least now it doesn't seem so confusing.

>>6195129
Maybe try messing around with settings for your graphics card. Double buffered Vsync, anti-lag, maybe something works

>>6195190
That's a good idea, I'll give it a shot.

>>6194970
If you play with vertical aiming, it becomes much easier than intended, try that on your first playthrough.

if anyone makes sprites of the hell guard from doom 4, why not use a pinky, heretic weredragon or hexen ettin as a base?

>>6194970
play continuous, make liberal usage of your power weapons, and you'll be fine.

>>6194341
And Peggy is Samus after she changed her hair back to classic brunette.

Another noob mapper question - how do I translate size of texture into units of height. And for that matter, how do I find out texture size?

>>6194104
Is there anything I need to change in the compatibility menu for Prboom+ for pure vanilla gameplay? Or is it good right off the bat?

what are some good megawads to show someone new to doom modding scene?

>>6195351

Name me a better PWAD. I fucking dare you.

>>6195358
>no brutal doom aka doom done right

>>6195371
Shut the I agree that Brutal Doom being absent from the image is dumb. It's great fun in its own right. I have many fond memories of hitting up Zandronum multiplayer and playing myriads of custom campaigns with everyone randomly saying "fuck yourself" to each other and demons.

Yo guys give me some one liners for this guy.

>>6195358

feels so outdated

>>6195382
Nothing but slapstick noises and slide whistles.

>>6195371
Doesn't play enough like original doom to count

>>6195391
>what are some good megawads to show someone new to doom modding scene?
>some good megawads to show someone new to doom modding scene?
>good megawads to show someone new to doom modding scene?
>megawads to show someone new to the doom modding scene?
>to show someone new to the doom modding scene?
>show someone new to the doom modding scene?
>someone new to the doom modding scene?
>new to the doom modding scene?
>what are some good megawads to show someone new to doom modding scene?

>>6195397
Demonsteele is in that image. As is GMOTA. Combined Arms is not in that image. Go figure.

>finaldoomer actually made me want to bother with more than three levels of Plutonia and I've finally seen this for the first time

>>6195382
Now that's what I call a bundle of sticks

>>6195382
Make him say popsicle stick jokes.

>>6195393
Il consider that, but for something else
>>6195419
Thats a good one, i am writing it. (giving you credit ofcourse!)
>>6195424
That sounds good, is there a link with some that i can read?

>>6195426
I'm sure there's millions of results on google, but this is where I got that one.

https://www.ranker.com/list/funny-popsicle-stick-jokes/jack-napier

>>6195426
https://laffgaff.com/popsicle-stick-jokes/

>>6195426
Why did the ghost stay home instead of attending the dance?
He had NO BODY to go with!

>>6194104

Fuck I forgot all about Oblige until I scrolled down the big Doom guide. This is exactly what I needed since there are seemingly no dedicated Hell WADs.

>>6194970
Continuous play on Ultra Violence, allow yourself saves, and then it's much easier.

People forcing pistol starts and zero saves are either autistic, or like really punishing themselves with difficulty. Possibly both.

Being forced to pistol start is supposed to be a penalty for not effectively saving. Don't forget to have fun, anon. No one is forcing you to do jack shit.

>>6195457
Damn, Mr. Splashy's really went to hell.

>>6195458
Don't forget about ObAddon to stick on top of Oblige.

>>6195481
Wow, thanks. So I just drag the .pk3 onto the Oblige.exe and run it normally?

>>6195491
nvm I'm a retard.

Duke Nukem 3D was a strong competitor to Doom for many many years, abundance of usermaps were made, and in fact was considered to be the better game.

What went wrong?

>>6195527
Everyone, absolutely everyone, can get behind being an anonymous marine mowing down legions of demons. Duke Nukem is wholly American.

>>6195532
What nationality wouldn't get behind mowing down legions of alien bastards who stole their chicks and shot down their ride?

>>6195532
retarded argument, Blood is considered the best build engine game yet most Blood fans are not psychopatic cultists

>>6195532
Exactly. The perfect role model.

>>6195360
Hideous Destructor.

>>6195539
>yet most Blood fans are not psychopatic cultists
Is it opposite day?

>>6195360
Dakka.

>>6195360
DoomRPG

>>6195545
>>6195552
>>6195553
>No Lord Blaz
Wrong. Thanks for trying.

>>6195360
>>6195563
kegan i will take your bitch ass mod and make it not work in zandro
how about that

>>6195539
>Doom vs Duke
>What about Blood?!
Every fucking time.

>>6195563
I don't like it when people compare Blaz to the Goblin Slayer, that guy is a singleminded fighting machine. There's more to Blaz than just fighting demons.
Not much, but at least something more.

>>6195570
That wasn't me. This was me. >>6195552 >>6195571

I also had thought about replying with Hideous Destructor but that other smartass beat me to it.

>>6195360
Hideous Destructor is the single best Doom mod that has ever been conceived. It's not even close. If you disagree, you're fucking entitled to your opinion I guess

>>6195527
Far less easy to make maps.
With Doom, making maps is pretty simple and straightforward, and better and better tools kept developing.

>>6195532
That's retarded and you're a retard.

>>6195607
>What she sees

>>6195607
> on the ground
> no health
> baron about to slap your shit
> "you are not bleeding" "enemy pattern recognized"
thank you vaec

>>6195539
GERO SHAY CRUO

Why isn't this working? What am I missing? I tried lifts and floors, set floor to ceiling and vice versa but nothing works.

>>6195667
You seem to be in a bad mood.

>>6195545

>>6195658
vaec?

>>6195679
matt
formerly vaecrius
habit of referring to people by their old names

>>6195683
Ooh, didn't know Matt went by that before

>>6195672
holy shit.

>>6195669
I am. It seems my sectors broke somehow. Now I made a weird thing where I can only see walls that are further away from me, I think it's kinda cool.

>>6195751
It doesn't matter to me one way or the other. More importantly, I've come all this way. I'm sure you have time for one more game, right?

>>6195182
in doom builder you select an area, press e and then stretch the selection. will end up with weird off-grid geometry if you don't go in simple multiples though.

>>6195304
outside of gzdoom UDMF format (where you can stretch their size), textures size in pixels is always equal to the amount of map units they take up.

>>6195527
Hot take here:
The guns in Duke are no where near as satisfying as Doom's. They've got some really neat concepts but the animations and sound design make many of them feel weaker than they should. For instance, Doom's shotgun was based off a toy but Duke's actually feels like one.

>>6195892
A few of them are better, mainly the rocket launcher and devastator

>>6195892
Hot take here:
I think the exact opposite.

>>6195892
Fist < Boot (not counting Berserk)
Doom Pistol < Duke Pistol
Shotgun = Shotgun
Chaingun = Ripper
RL > RPG

Personally I prefer the Devastators to the BFG. They're both amazing but in the end I feel more satisfied spraying missiles everywhere. Then Duke has cool shit like the Shrinker/Expander/Freezethrower.

>>6195892
That's how I've felt forever. Especially disliking Duke's rocket launcher.

>>6195892
>>6195930
cunt

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
https://streamable.com/pdhd6

If you haven't tried HidDest - do it now, you're missing out

>>6196019
The Spider Mastermind sucks at aiming. Haha what a nerd.

>>6196020
I can only assume it was shooting at the HERPs I put up. Either that, or RNGsus blessed me.

>>6195892
I really liked Duke64's SMGs and Grenade Launcher, wish they Duke64 weapons in the Megaton Edition.

>>6196001
Nice counter argument. You sure showed us.

>>6195892
I think it varies.

>Pistol
Duke's is way better.
>Shotgun
Even desu.
>Chaingun
Roughly even.
>Rocket launcher
Duke's has a lot more POW to it, but in Doom you can carry twice as much ammo.
>Melee
Duke can quick kick, which is neat and actually very useful, but Doomguy can have a Chainsaw and also use a Berserk pack to punch as hard as a rocket. Duke can power up his kicks with Steroids, but they make him super fast and less easy to control in melee, negating some of the advantage, also it only lasts for a very brief time, Doomguy can punch guys into smithereens for the remainder of the level.

The rest of the weapons I don't feel really compare very closely. Doom has the plasmarifle, which is cool, and the BFG9000, which is actually ridiculously high value for its ammunition usage, while the closest thing Duke has to the plasma gun is maybe the Devastator, but actually not really.
The rest of Duke's weapons are uniquely distinct from Doom's, the Shrinker/Expander, the Freezer, fun and delightful gimmick weapons which are really useful, the Tripmines, which I've never gotten a monster to walk over, and the pipebombs, which I mostly use for demolishing and ambushing, to save on ranged explosives.

>>6196048
Anon has sort of a point, but what elevates the weapons and animations is the level design and just fun value. I absolutely love using the pistol and shotgun in Duke and pipe bombs.

>>6195930
How can you hate Duke's rocket launcher?

>>6196036
cunt

Does this look right? I don't remember Quake looking like this. The muzzle flash is a shitty polygon and the bullet puffs look like rasterized dots in photoshop. It's all too "smooth" for me. I made a cfg file in the right folder with "gl_texturemode gl_nearest_mipmap_linear" like the infograph said, but it still looks weird to me. Maybe it's just because the only time I played it as a kid was shitty 640x480 res, but I ain't going back to that cuz I need my widescreen.

>>6196096
still looks blurry, try typing that command into the console in-game. and put r_particles "2" into the config to get square particles. the muzzle-flash was always part of the model.

>>6196048
>which I've never gotten a monster to walk over,
Trip 'em yourself. They don't do a ton of damage but they do have a large radius. Use them to soften enemies up so you can put them down in less shots with other guns.

That particles command definitely helped with the puffs, but everything else still looks kinda blurred.

Also, I can't figure out what the autorun command is, it's not in the keymappings and cl_run isn't a valid command.

>>6196105
I honestly just never find the time to deploy them in combat, so I basically end up using them as demolition/breaching charges; slap one on a cracked wall or next to something that needs to blow up, then trip the laser at as long a distance as possible.
That way, I conserve other explosives for fighting.

>>6196105
I should say, I do still use pipebombs for combat.
Also, goddamn, the .webm converter wasn't gentle on your recording.

>>6196096
The blurfilters are usually on by default in many of the ports, as some derive from GLQuake, where it was standard.

>>6196125
See, much better. Quake's textures are too pretty to smear vaseline all over.
Isn't there just one running speed in Quake? Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

>>6196125
just compare your two screenshots, it definitely looks better now. try out gl_nearest_mipmap nearest and see how you like that. mipmaps are the textures used at a distance.
autorun is caps lock.

>>6195539
>Blood is considered the best build engine game
keep trying Blood faggot. It's not even the second best.

>>6196125
Get DirectQ.

>>6196136
considering it's 80 seconds fit into 3MB, I'd say the converter did really damn well

I'm a fucking retard, I didn't notice the auto run option in the options menu.

>>6196145
Now that you mention it I do notice the difference, but I can't tell the difference between _nearest and _linear, they seem the same.

>>6196152
why tho

>>6196163
Looks nicer to mine eye.

>>6196165
ok I am using it and it seems better than spasm, ty anon, me unga bunga

>>6196171
Based, Quakepilled.

>>6196175
Anon I'm having an allergic reaction to the quakepill, everything is black except the skybox after trying to adjust brightness/contrast.

>>6196179
Sorry, it seems you aren't based enough.

>>6196146
>It's not even the second best.
Because it's the very best =^)

All doom builder guides tell me to watch for direction of linedef, but nobody tells me how to to invert the ones that are facing wrong.

>>6196249
F or check your preferences

>>6195669
He probably is, and I know what it's like, I remember when I was younger and trying to understand what the hell I was doing wrong writing some decorate code.

I was fuming, just tearing my hair out trying to figure out why the hell this actor was breaking the game and stopping it from booting; I had forgotten to close the end brackets

>>6196278
So, this is what they call a heartwarming family reunion, eh?

My second attempt looks a bit less terrible, but I'm starting to think basic Doom assets are not suited well for verticality. No matter what I'll do with the walls, they would still be mostly monotone. Any ideas on how I can liven them up?

>>6196294
check out deus vult II for examples of beautiful vertical maps

Are all Quake maps designed for shotgun starts like Doom is for Pistol starts?

>>6196294
Whats your map themes? Throw in some panels/screaming faces that are sunken into the wall

>>6195692
funny to see this in dorohedoro of all things. i always thought fps games especially retro ones would be more obscure in japan.

Is Quake 1.5 comoatible with Chillos model replacements?

A little more sensible fraction of the same map.
Do you think it's bad to have looping "Poison" signs?

Something about my Vega 11 drivers must be conflicting with either Hideous Destructor or GZDoom itself because the game always CTDs on later maps in any megawad or mappack and no driver update has addressed this. Anyone experienced anything alike? Happens on maps with high enemy counts most of the time.

I do know Graf hates AMD, could that just be it

>>6194104
Is it possible to make a custom IWAD for ECWolf? I thought it'd be a simple way to make an FPS. If not, I guess I could always fake a Wolf style game and just make a custom Doom IWAD with level design based on rectangular 64mu grid.

>>6196374
How else you'd know there's poison there

>>6196417
By putting a Rad suit at the far end of the poison field.

Anti-Christ might be the most apt name for a Doom level ever

>>6195892
Duke doesn't have an absurdly OP weapon like the BFG in the arsenal, and you can feel that lack a lot.

>>6196294
Remember that each sector has three textures - middle, lower and upper. With some skill, you can use all three to create a more varied looking wall.

Second, just because you want to create wall in a room, doesn't mean it has to be JUST a wall. You can add a purely decorative indentations - a window to the outside sky, a scrolling wall of heads, midtexture cages full of bodies or indentations shaped like inverted crosses.

You can also add a shelf that has nothing on it aside from some decorations, like some bodies or something.

You can even make windows (that nothing can move through) that look out to entirely fake and purely decorative rooms that player will never set the foot in!

Remember, any modern computer can handle thousands of sectors. Don't be afraid to add more polish with tiny details.

Also, texture you picked is pretty boring. It has a very small repeating pattern. Generally, if player will look at your texture from up close (in a small room), pick a texture with a small detailed pattern. But if player will look at your texture from afar, pick a texture with a larger repeating pattern, like tech wall, flesh wall, or green marble archvile heads (you can even mix regular green marble walls with archvile head walls, it's all up to you).

>>6196441
You mean Devastator?

>>6196446
Souped up plasma gun. Nothing that can kill a whole room in a single shot.

Why hasn't /vr/ made another community project yet? And why were all the previous ones mediocre speedmaps?

>>6196450
Duke doesn't have rooms full of enemies, such a weapon would be wasted. Instead, it has beefy bosses that you need to kill quickly, and Devastator does that.

Also it's not just Plasma Gun because it has splash damage, its cross between Rocket Launcher and Plasma Gun.

Which is alright because BFG itself is a cross between Rocket Launcher and Shotgun.

Anyone else having issues of walls jittering when moving the camera and sprites being seen through floors when using GZDoom software rendering?

>>6196459
Why haven't you organized one yet?

>>6196459
Because were all procrastinators, and speedmapping is only way to get us off our asses and actually do something.

And they're mediocre because speedmapping is a very hard skill.

>>6196465
Good idea. But due to me being the loser that I am, it'd probably flop just because why wouldn't it.

>>6196470
Be the change you want to see.

>>6196470
Organize something that would get people on this board excited.

Idk, a Hideous Destructor megawad or something. This board fucking loves HD.

Gotta ask, why hasn't /vr/ made an official quakeworld/quake 3 server? Or at least a discord for playing QW or 3?

>>6196459
>>6196465
>>6196472

How would that work WELL, anyways? Making an organized project in an image board would be inconvenient and sloppy. Not impossible, but would be improbable to have good results, as the previous Doom and Quake projects proved.

For example, it would be difficult to keep track of do's and dont's, assigning each anon to a level number for episodes with specific themes, keeping track of consistent design decisions, playtesting, and revisions. If there were an IRC, or even, God forbid, a Discord for a project of such scale, it'd be much easier and simpler. Maybe I or a brave someone can and will figure it out someday.

I'd rather not see a new project, than see wasted effort on poorly organized events like the previous ones.

>>6196491
Make a spreadsheet.

>>6196491
yeah but what if it was a disorganized project with no real deadlines, like a github where people could submit levels and eventually we would have an episode long wad.

>>6196483
There's a neat DOSbox DM server where they organize and play retro shooters. It's quite new and I'm not sure how often they play.

r4UHpaM

Mod concept: Repulsive Destroyer. Doom Tactical Shooter Experience in a more accessible format.

Not a mod of HD but written from scratch.

First, focus on tactics. That is, resource management and player positioning. As such, every enemy has a position based gimmick. For example, Chaingunners are replaced by turret emplacements that take almost no damage unless they're flanked, and that you can mount yourself after you defeat them. Similarly, revenant replacement is a Sniper Ghost, that has a visible laser sight which will kill you instantly if you cross the beam, but is super vulnerable up close.

To emphasize resource management, enemies divide into two categories. Materiel and infantry. Infantry dies real quick, but materiel (vehicles and robots) die very slowly unless you use AP ammo or explosives. To make this less annoying, mod would utilize typical "tetris" block based inventory like Stalker, Deus Ex or Neverwinter Nights, instead of having three separate inventory systems like HD. Weapon selection would be governed by a quick access toolbelt like in Deus Ex, where you can manually put every item to every weapon slot.

To make the game more compatible with typical Doom maps (as compared to HD), if enemies notice you at the same time when door/lift is activated, enemies are considered Ambushed and are frozen for one second. This will mean that breaching rooms becomes less of a pain in the ass.

Second mechanic to make the game more compatible with typical doom maps is Portalstrike. Portalstrike is UAC invention and logical conclusion of teleportal technology - ability to teleport a nuke after a short countdown.

Nukes are awarded for completing objectives (100% kills, beating par time, not being spotted - there is a stealth system). You also get free nuke for every 70000 HP total of monsters in a map - which is about a hundred monsters. This would make slaughtermaps potentially beateable with this if you try hard enough.

Oh, and easier controls than HD.

>>6196528
so HDest without the personality or charm?

>>6196528
>if enemies notice you at the same time when door/lift is activated, enemies are considered Ambushed and are frozen for one second.
Add teleporters to this and this should be a vanilla element. Fuck getting shot the tic you end up in a new room

>>6196528
> This will mean that breaching rooms becomes less of a pain in the ass.
And also that monster closets are no longer instant player death. The same status effect applies if enemies notice player right after teleportation.

>easier controls than HD
What I have in mind is something like a typical modern shooter, with a simple toggle between ADS and regular walking, and a dedicated grenade button. Or potentially something closer to ARMA.

Oh yeah, and insteaed of a DERP you have a tactical BigDog-like dog robot. The robot carries your stuff, and obeys basic orders. It is invincible, but can break down. When broken down it needs to be repaired using the same repair kits used for armor and weapons (forcing more resource management). You can also just pick up Dog Robot into your inventory to repair it later (it can be broken or not). However, it can't carry your stuff when broken.

This I believe would give it the squad-management tac-shooter feel that HD lacks.

>>6196532
How do you know it's without personality or charm? I went into exactly zero details about the custom story and lore.

Fuck that noise, HD being inaccessible isn't 'charming'. HD isn't inaccessible because that's cool, HD is inaccessible because of feature creep and constantly changing mechanics.

Also as an amateur game designer - HD has the worst game feel out of any FPS I ever played. I don't know who thought that having Rocket Launcher out should prevent you from rotating in small spaces, but they should be shot. Disconnect between moving mouse and lack of camera movement feels AWFUL.

I like HD, otherwise I wouldn't want to create my own version of it. But let's not pretend HD is perfect and untouchable. It's janky as fuck.

>>6196547
You're getting pretty defensive over this, simmer down. I disagree about that "game feel" as you call it, the shotguns feel good to use, and the thunderbuster is a complete shitwrecking machine.
To take out the weird bullshit of HDest would be to remove what makes it so fucking captivating in the first place. I dunno how much experience you have with making weapons or mechanics but after doing this shit for 6 years I give HDest a lot of credit for standing out from literally every other doom mod ever.

Why is it called Hideous Destructor anyway? It makes no reference to it being a tacticool mod, so I'd assume it's a reference to something.

>>6196550
I think it's in reference to a song, same thing with the Thunderbuster.
The SMG actually stands for Sexy Manly Guy because the weapons designer was having an affair with a fuckboy. HDest lore is fucking awesome

>>6196549
Guns feel good, but movement is pretty bad. I never felt in control of my movement, and all possible aiming options are annoying - never aiming is unplayable, always aiming obscures big chunk of your screen, and aiming when still makes you move veeeery slooowly to always keep reticle on screen. I know HD fans hate Call of Duty, but you have to admit it fixed that problem ages ago.

And the whole realism "big guns block your rotation" shit is cherry on the shitcake. HD is very uneven.

>>6196550
It also refers to the main bad guy. I'm not sure if it's HD version of Icon of Sin or someone else.

>>6196559
I never had any problems with movement in HDest, I'm slow but I have more options than compared to vanilla.
As for aiming, again, I never really had any problems, I only aim with the ZM66 after crouching, take a few potshots and then get the hell out of the way, sometimes I hipfire if they're really close but if I needed an extra burst of speed I'd just use the little jump you can do while strafing or backpedaling.

>>6196562
once i turned off the scope I became an action movie character for the most part, the recoil on all the guns isn't as bad as people act like it is.

>>6196374
I would break it up and use normal green sladwalls, and then the occasional poison sign here and there.

Can anyone recommend maps with erotic/X-rated sector art? Like map30 of Kama Sutra and the like. No low-effort crap with porno textures, please.

>>6196625

Look at him go.

>>6196625
I think uac military nightmare has multiple maps shaped like dicks.

You guys checked out Raze? How do I load maps in it?

>>6196660
Doom's physics can on occasion get pretty funny.

>>6196752
He's just ascending to heaven.

tfw like episode 1s style but cannot emulate it and have the level be fun at the same time

>>6196625
I like that the kids section of kama sutra map30 is actually the harder option.

have any of the people who made the original doom games made any wads afterwards

>>6196854
romero made sigil

>>6196862
cool beans, thanks

>>6196865
before that he made E1M8b and E1M4b, remakes of the original levels.

>>6196854
TeamTNT (Final Doom) was pretty prolific all the way into the early 00s.

>>6195358
Truly outdated AF and whoever made this has some pretty shit taste in levels

>>6196087
Does a different opinion anger you this much? Try growing up.

Why do lost souls sound like homer screaming?
Am I crazy?

>>6196918
Because Inferno is actually Springfield.

Thinking of regularly hosting some /vr/ Doomage to remind myself of the old days. What's some shit people want to see? So far I'm I'm thinking Cyberrunner, but there was some minigame maps too that were in the rotation and I wish I knew what the fuck that was. Some old school Survival Invasion, none of that Complex Invasion crap.

>>6197010
shotgun frenzy, zero invasion, whodunit, and some vintage skulltag weapon mods.

>>6197026
First three, easy enough. Mind pointing me out some of these st weapon mods?
https://static.allfearthesentinel.net/wads/

>>6197086
I actually don't see a lot of the wads on there that I remember.
https://static.allfearthesentinel.net/wads/smwgmpkuacultrafixv2.pk3
is a cool dual-wielding weapons mod with sprites made from counter strike weapon mods, and wolverine claws. I also remember one that had regenerating shields instead of armor and health and the doom 3 shotgun sounds but doom64 sprites, will search for it because it was a blast to play survival with.

what wads would daisy enjoy?

>>6196816

cough dtwid cough

>>6197192
Mr. Friendly.

am I stupid? how do I do this Doom RPG series? what the fuck is a ,.jar file and how do I run it? This readme didn't help me. I just tells me to run it? how?

>>6197241
.jar is a java file. Download java.
You could have googled "What is a ,jar file" and found the answer

>>6197243
I've done it but they won't open! I've been trying to open or run things with Java but it's not working. I googled it first before posting obviously.

>>6197250
Try restarting your computer. Sometimes spontaneously windows will not let me open a file, it just hangs forever. Restarting fixes it.

OH NO NO NO

>>6197261
They're both good games tbqh

>>6197261
They're both shit games tbqh

>>6195537
Present day Americans, and most of Europe.
There is a reason, in Duke Nukem Forever, that the President of America was telling Duke not to attack the ayylmaos and trying to give them visas and shit.

>>6197010
Testing for a bit. Up on Doomseeker now, server name /vr/ Doom 2020. Password is raged. Running these:
>>6197026
>>6197185

>>6195569
>Bloods vs Crips
>What about Aryan Brotherhood?!
Every fucking time.

>>6197272
Oh no disregard this I fucked something up.

>>6197274
Tell us when it's gucci. I've been having an itch for some doom multi

>>6196752
>fuck this, i'm out

>mfw I just found the Arcane Dimensions Nightmare mode all by myself while not directly looking for it
:D

>>6197285
I'm just super stumped all of a sudden because mere minutes ago I was able to switch from game mode to game mode with no issue, but now Shotgun Frenzy interferes with the weapon pack from here >>6197185 and Whodunit fucks everything up when loaded. But it wasn't like this when I was first testing.

>>6197295
don't mix weapon packs with any of the first three mods, they all have custom weapons and rely on scripts so a weapon pack will fuck them up

>>6197261
what /v/ tier shit is this why is it the start of the first one but in the middle of the old one, kinda inconsistent. It would be like making some sort of case with Sigil footage then 4 seconds of the D44M intro level. dont be like this

Are there any packs that are the regular Quake maps, but recompiled (since Romero released all the vanilla .map files) with higher quality settings?

>>6197272
Alright up and running. Just running Zero Invasion for now.

Level authentication failed for you two dudes?

>>6197350
Yup.

>>6197351
Odd, but at least I know this hosting works for the most part. Will mix it up with other shit.

how long will the server be up for anon?

>>6197364
30-40 more minutes. Running Shotgun Frenzy right now, and trying to find the proper loading order of PWADs so people don't get level authentication failure again.

>>6197367
>Protected lump authentication failed
>Please make sure you are using the exact same wad(s) as the server, and try again

Thoughts on doomrl arsenal?

>>6197272
OLA, NO!
>>6197380
I disliked it a great deal until I read up on the making special weapons from very specific mod combos. Can't wait to give it another shot.

>>6197380
Great fun. Especially with DoomRPG.

>>6197272
Restarted; back up.

>>6196491
I'd be glad to participate in a Doom mapping project, even though I'm a novice mapper.

>>6197261

>>6197380
I used to play it a lot years ago with random OBLIGE maps. Might have to give it another run unless newer builds of GZDoom completely break it.

>>6197472
is this a shadow warrior reference.

>>6197484
There's nuclear-powered variants of cell weapons (which slowly recharge ammo) and a Biggest Fucking Gun. This is the one that puts the two together.

Thoughts on Blake Stone? Is it worth checking out if I liked Wolf3d and Spear of Destiny?

>>6197272
Test successful. Gonna host a lot more. Thanks to those who joined.

>>6197512
>beretta 5mm

is that supposed to be 50 mm?

>>6197523
> 50mm handgun
no its a 5mm micro pistol the dude is shooting at things from his cockpit because his mech ran out of ammo

>>6197506
Yes, it's pretty much better Wolf3d in every way, use the BStone source port.

>>6197192
That one where you can water the flowers and pet the dog.

>need to make just one more map to complete episode
>completely burned out

So CLOSE. I've run out of ideas. Any tips?

>doom was never horror
How many of you brainlets hold this opinion?

>>6197606
Lots of stairs

>>6196320
You underestimate how many people in japan loves doom, Japanese megawad being the biggest proof

also Alice when she isnt playing for honor

>>6196901
What levels and megawads would you put on there instead?

>>6196320
>>6197650
Doom has some cult status, mostly in nerd circles, but it was never a giant like it was in the west.

Its always funny seeing people reference that Doom comic

>>6197471

please tell the me doom16 footage is from a game journo

>>6197783
It might be the Polygon footage, which was widely ridiculed for how ridiculously bad the person playing was.

>>6197783
Yes

Now someone post the eternal doom game footage

The only way to fix quake blurry texture issues, is adding a dithering TV style shading to it.
Since it was made with that in the 1st place
Also this shit ended up great in Altar of storms and other old shit

>>6197804
>PC game
>made for TV
Also don't use linear filtering.

>>6197812
CRT had dithering anon, even some had NTSC in it.
I had one back in 97 and 2000 and some games looked great in it.

the shaders exists, the thing is finding a sweet spot in it that doesn't cause eye strain and works perfectly with Nearest.

>>6197506

it was my first real fps, so I am heavy influenced by
nostalgia, but I would say yes.

This silly enemy terrified the fuck out me when I was kid

>>6197823
>CRT had dithering
Dithering is not something screens "have", and VGA used in monitors was much sharper and had a lot less color bleeding than the alternatives available on TVs.

>>6197930
He might mean pixel blending, or staggered pixels.

TNT or Plutonia?

>>6198006
For?

>>6198006
both

>>6198009
Which do you prefer?

>>6198016
TNT. I found it more memorable, and great in terms of visual map design. Though lacking in terms of gameplay.

"Vi engel decru, vi tallt got, vi TOS Sokar!"

>>6197650
I wish it was popular enough that they'd put together another one some time, because I really liked it.

>>6195539
>Blood is considered the best build engine game
The utter mental state of Blood fans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dMKhtBsIyI
>tfw you have to translate this to DOOM format SOMEHOW.
wtf.
Well, Gibb50 probably won't want me making this file public, but here it is: one skybox. Just trim as nessasary i know you hate me but it doesn't have to end that way

>>6198086
Lest you could attempt is to sprite the enemies
as they get easier to every iteration
>Make the basic grunt
>Make 3 variation of weapon equipment for
Melee, One handed fire arms and 2 handed fire arms
>Other variations are mostly changing the clothes and or sizes.
>get a full set of enemies ready.

it doesn't matter if they look Mspainty, just use paint.net and do all of the frames with layers each and you are more than good to go

>>6198115
Yes but the problem is I need to somehow translate the real meat and potatos; the Vul'kan'erul
I could care less about the grunts because they're not in this; At least Matt Jolly has made a cartoon to close a loophole involving why grunts cant reach their hand across an entire room

>>6194346
>>>6194210
>Do you want it? It's free to use, just put Chopblock in the credits of whatever you're doing.

Not the guy but this revolver looks awesome. Hope somebod will implement it soon.

>>6198123
Well the flaming tar man are even easier,
Just color the body and heads to black (add the red expressions too), make some flaming sprites (ala complex doom) and facial expressions, and add some flaming effects behind them, make sure to make red expressions also have gldefs

>>6194104
What are the choices for Blake Stone Sourceports as of now?

>>6195527
>Duke Nukem 3D was a strong competitor to Doom for many many years, abundance of usermaps were made, and in fact was considered to be the better game.
>What went wrong?

It is not the better game. Its that easy actually aside from the big difference in cultural impact.

>>6198138
I'm not sure you're following considering I need to make frames for EVERY animation for these suckers, and not only that, but imagine how they'd translate to doom sprites.
And that's WAY above my level. Coding included.

>>6198154
lmao.

hank j wimbleton and doomguy
BFFs

>>6198159
Dude you don't need to like translate them to doom and stuff, you can just make the frames and drag em all to slade (in a folder to be more exact) all for one guy, then name them for each animation, then do the audio for both the character and his gun, and then there is the coding as you just said

>>6198178
You really don't get how many frames of flame animation will be required per rotation per frame.
It ain't doable by me.

>>6198182
You can code it as a particle, you know that?
Like just make a simple flame looking sprite of just one frame, and then code it as a particle that spawn behind the character.

Again you should look Complex doom, cuz some of the monsters are a good example on how to do it.

>>6196445
I'm going to add some decorations, supports and extra layers of texture. However, one of the problem is that the walls are supposed to be lined with various monster closets and the central pillar is surrounded by an elevator that needs to be raised several times before it reaches the top, meaning any indentation not on the catwalk level will mess it up.

>>6197250
>>6197241
>>6197258

Doom RPG is an old mobile game. You need a J2ME (name of mobile Java apps) emulator. https://sourceforge.net/projects/freej2me/

>>6195462
>Being forced to pistol start is supposed to be a penalty for not effectively saving.

I don't really like pistol starts either because they're slow as shit unless you know the map layout in advance and know EXACTLY where you're going and when to use resources, but this is objectively untrue.

They tested all of the maps primarily on pistol starts. I forget who, but there was someone from id that said it bothered them that the vast majority of people played through doom continuous as most of the maps were balanced for pistol starts.

>>6198258
>I forget who, but there was someone from id that said it bothered them that the vast majority of people played through doom continuous as most of the maps were balanced for pistol starts.
If thats how they felt they shouldn't have given the us the option lol. First time i ever played doom was on super nintendo, having to pistol start every time was mind numbing. As soon as i got it for computer I had so much more fun and it was nice to save files at my favorite levels for quick access.

Pistol starting is the most fun thing you can do in vanilla Doom.

How do you guys feel about gameplay mods that offer an option to force pistol starts with each new level?

>>6198263
I guess they shouldn't have had cheats either.

>>6198258
>I forget who, but there was someone from id that said it bothered them that the vast majority of people played through doom continuous as most of the maps were balanced for pistol starts.
Id want a source for that, considering the manual advises you to save often, and there is no way to pistol-start without either intentionally dying or cheating.

Do you want to mod some Blood? Are you too lazy to do the preliminary research yourself? Well your in luck....

If you don't have it already, get the mapedit exe from here and place it in your Blood directory.
https://www.moddb.com/games/blood/downloads/mapedit

Here's an easy way to setup mapedit with a shortcut, this is the best way to go about it unless you like using dos commands every time you start mapedit: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=863927494

Once you get that working, you should change theses settings in "dosboxBloodEditor.conf" and "MAPEDIT.INI"

==== dosboxBloodEditor.conf ====
"aspect=true"
"sensitivity=x" (I made mine 50)
==== MAPEDIT.INI ====
HighlightThreshold=x (I made this 200)
====================================
Once you get in the editor, check out this video for an overview of the basic mapedit controls. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rL_0AU3wqE&feature=emb_logo

You can also print out "MAPEDIT.TXT", this is a great reference for most aspects of the editor, except the triggering systems. That documentation is straight up nonsense unless you already know what your doing.

Unlike duke 3d, Blood doesn't use Hi-tags and Lo-tags for linking sprites. Instead, it uses RX and TX id's (receive and transmit respectively). This here site is a great reference for how to set up those up and make cool build engine stuff (breakable walls, rotating sectors, ya know) http://www.baitd.bloodgame.ru/bme.htm#tutorials

I should also warn you that in mapedit there's no such thing as "undo". If you fuck your sectors somehow, tough tits you gotta reload the map. Save ritually and make multiple copies of maps.

That's about all for now, I might make more posts after I do some more learnin, build engine modding is pretty comfy once you get the hang of it.

>>6198267
The issue is that pistol is the worst weapon in Doom, and the less you use it, the better the game is.

Logical solution is pistol starting using the Final Doomer Doom 2 weaponset, which is basically vanilla with a better pistol.

>>6198302
It's not an issue because you're never stuck with just the pistol for more than 30sec.

>>6198290
Thanks, king.

Someone screenshot this and add this to the "so you want to play some..." imgur album.

Since I don't want to go through the effort to make a bunch of WEBM clips, here's some raw recordings of some TurokDoom gameplay
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/whpa4fnfgygjp4v/AABxtXOTxshibsBmzTMpzdNCa?dl=0

who replaced this guy

>>6197780
It's a classic

beauteous killer
attractive murderer
repulsive destroyer
hideous destructor
horrifying annihilator

>>6198393
Unaesthetic Genocider

>>6198396
maybe...

>>6198251
I don't understand. I have this folder, but I can't run any of these programs. Literally I'm retarded. what am I supposed to do?

how's quake team fortress? do people actually play it?

How many monsters can I fit in a small room before it becomes in bad taste?

Why do neo-doom fags come up with such retarded theories and shitty takes

>>6198471

Is it fun

If Y proceed with current state of affairs

If N you fucked up so unfuck your shit

>tnt final doomer weaponset
>has zero weapons capable of firing at range except the shitty delayed rocket launcher
How the actual fuck is Metal supposed to be beatable?

>>6198471

Idk but don't use symmetrical monster placement

>>6198510
Basic shotgun equivalent and the maser are accurate at range, but yeah, the uzis suck balls.

>>6198609
>maser are accurate at range
That makes a little more sense. The description and test-firing it made me think it was a short-range beam, woops.
Those uzis are indeed dogshit though.

>>6198609
>>6198617
I think the uzis are great at close range at least, it's fun whittling down demons with them.

>>6198618
The uzis are showy and fun to fire, but they waste egregious amounts of ammo to kill anything other than a roomful of enemies.

>>6198623
I think that's part of the appeal to me, I've grown to love ammo dump bullet weapons that just burn through your ammo reserves quickly, it's satisfying building up ammo and then just spraying shit down.

Is it me or do enemies in Eternal reuse attacks most of the time?
Even the Archie has an attack similar to one from the Whiplash.
While at it, was the Hellknight in Doom 2 like the last added enemy in the game?
Because at least his lazy design tells off him being just a diet Baron.

>>6198635
Hell Knights were made so they could use the Baron type enemy without the bullet sponge nature of the Baron itself. That said, actual gameplay differences besides health/damage would've been nice.

https://twitter.com/kinsie/status/1227233874079404033

I was wondering,would it be possible to bring The Darkness gameplay into Doom?
Aside of walking in the shadows to enable your powers,would the other gameplay mechanics work in some way?

>>6198365
Damn Adon is looking good with her Turok 3 design and Turok 2 colours.
How is the mod going,anon?

>>6198396
Nightmarish Obliterator

I'm not happy how slow progress is at the moment but at least the animations are good and I figured out a better altfire, along with some good hitsparks.

How do you even legally play blood gdx now that its no longer available on steam or gog?

>>6198716
Unpleasant Shooter

>>6198718
why play bloodgdx when you could play superior nblood

>>6197606
Giant arena with thousands of enemies and BFG spam gameplay.

>>6198725
nblood? never heard of that version.

>>6198717
That rapid shot animation is great.
Something feels off about the swings, like its to even in its swipe speed instead of actual hits.

>>6198729
Too even? Whaddya mean exactly?

>>6198718
>Not available on gog
When you buy Fresh Supply it still gives you the option to play the original Blood.
Like System Shock 1.

>>6198730
Actually I'm not sure what the animation is supposed to convey.

if its a melee hit , I think its too even and smooth on its timing.
If its like some sort of Projectile spray, I think the smear hides that intention.

I'm not an expert though, that's just my impression.

>>6197609
The absolute state of Eternal brainlets:
>Doom was always cartoony
>Doom was never serious
And the justification for the above:
>lmao, did you see the rabbit head at the end of E3/E4
>lulz, pet rabbit meme

>>6198740
It's essentially both, he's swiping his arm in an arc to fire a wave of projectiles. You can see the spawn effects for the shots as they fly out. I disagree with the too even thing on the timing though.

>>6198748
>It's essentially both
well okay then.

>>6198742
I just hate how we have a generation of people that have lived in an era of irony.
They probably can't comprehend what its like to have genuine excitement or interest in something.
No wonder "ironically watching anime" is so popular with kids.

>>6198759
I miss enthusiasm and sincerity too. But that's just the current generation right now.

>>6198285
It was Sandy backpedaling on why Doom 2 was 2EZ. In the end, it only makes him look like a retard for testing pistol starts more than continuous.
>Yeah, we focused more on a niche playstyle for brainlets who forgot to save or speedrunning faggots over the way normal human beings will play the game.

>>6198759
i always wondered if it has anything to do with cringe culture or that 2011 period where it was cool to hate on memes in general

>>6198770
I think it was 2001 sept. 11th nihilism that evolved into irony. That and the fact that EVERYTHING on the internet has to be done ironically or else people will laugh at you for being sincere.

>>6198471
>Using a poorfag builder that doesn't even show things as sprites

Is there anyway to make Russian Overkill a balanced wad to play with?

I tried pairing it with Colorful Hell but it's still too easy - and slaughter maps turn into a slideshow

>>6198783
Keep Colorful Hell, turn on Cyan, Abyss, and the other special type (I don't remember its name). Then get Legendoom/Legendoomlite
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=51035
Legendoom is a WAD in its own right, the lite version is compatible with anything. In a nutshell, Legendoom(lite) makes random monsters, (adjustable to few, more, even more, EVERY monster) fully heal once they reach half health, with faster attacks, more damaging attacks, faster movement, and more health. It's the exact thing you need for your setup. I do something similar with Combined Arms + Colorful Hell, because CA on its own is just too powerful. I never thought until seeing your post to use Russian Overkill with Legendoom, but now I will. Have fun.

>>6198783
>Is there anyway to make Russian Overkill a balanced wad to play with?
by not playing it

>>6198797
Oh and the health and damage each legendary monster gets is also adjustable to ridiculously insane levels.

>>6198783
Not really, all of those mods have that over the top shit built into the very core, if you ramp up enemy HP for them to withstand those insane attacks, then it feels like dogshit because your huge nukes don't one shot single monsters. Or it comes down to everything one shotting you or you one shotting them.

>>6198773
>>6198763
It's an issue I see in Doom fanbase as well whenever someone brings Hdoom and say "the animation look nice,a masterpiece,le demon tiddies" but never actually mean it and think they're funniest motherfuckers around.
I rather have someone who admits jacks off on it,who gives a shit honestly.
I don't like Hdoom but it's basically beating a dead horse now.

I hate to bring that up but it's something I kept seeing from the posers within the fandom.

What you enjoy might be dumb but at least you're having fun rather than hide your insecurities through irony.

>>6198817
Honestly I like HDoom but I don't really jack off to it much. It was a neat little concept, but I'm not going to sit around and watch an animation for every mother fucker I come across.

Coincidentally why I didn't like glory kills.

>>6198823
>Coincidentally why I didn't like glory kills
There's a difference though.
The sex animations are the thing you're in for,you want to see the demons getting fucked.


The Glory Kills is an alternate to reward you except sometime they break the core gameplay.

What's the community consensus on Raze?

My subconscious created a doom wad and I dreamed of playing it

>>6196918
https://youtu.be/jmda-G07t7o

>>6198854
Nice.

>>6198317
For sure dude, I hope more people start making maps for blood / build or any engine for that matter. These threads should be less about arguing what games "best" and more about creating / teaching others how to mod the games they enjoy most.

Played Guncaster Vindicated.
That's a vast improvement over the original mod.
You're still powerful but not stupidly OP.
Hell,at least now can actually use ever weapon in my arsenal without most of the good stuff from the get go.

>>6198854
Heh'd

Any ideas on how to improve my fountain of blood?

>>6198881
well it looks weird how it just cuts off like that.
if you can try to get something to mask the top.

>>6198881
turn it upside down

>>6198891
This

>>6198885
I turned it into a pyramid which makes sense for a fountain. Although now it looks particularly phallic, especially if it's rising.

>>6198867
You Bloodfags are the ONLY ones who bring up the argument you absolute troglodyte.

>>6198905
That looks a lot better than the one you posted.

also maybe don't have every face have the spewing blood face? I'd say limit it to 2 or 3.

>>6197261
>>6197471
Combine them

>>6198918
this.
These webms get posted together all the time.
Might as well skip the middleman.

>>6198906
I speak for myself, no one else. I've never involved myself in those discussions, I'm just here to learn about modding and make some maps. I could care less what people argue about.

>>6197708
I'd just remove 1994tu, Jenesis and SOD.
Woulda add Alien Vendetta and Vile Flesh.

>>6198918
>uses a Tool Assisted run to show people how they should play Doom
lmao sure

>>6198769
>it only makes him look like a retard for testing pistol starts more than continuous.
Right, he should play through the entire game on each difficulty up to each level for testing.
"Hey guys, I'm gonna test some changes I did on map 27, this is gonna take all day."

>>6198968
>tas that involves someone picking up the rocket launcher that early
link or you are telling untruths