/vr/ - Retro Games

>>6196485
If you find it easy just make some challenges for yourself. That's what people do in every genre ever.

>>6196485
>games needs fix to be good
then is not as good as they claim.

>>6196512
The problem is that playing luck mode naked or doing speedrunning autism isn't as enjoyable as playing it normally.

>>6196519
It's already good, the hack just fixes a small issue. You can see that this is something the devs accepted as criticism and tried to fix it in the other Metroidvania titles since they aren't as easy as SoTN.

>>6196485
Until someone adds platforming I'll play the good Castlevanias instead

>>6196632
This.
Does the patch add actual platforming to the game?

>>6196485
Cool, I like to try different runs from time to time

>>6196681
Of course not lol.
I haven't even looked into it but guaranteed it pretty much just makes alucard squishier and enemies more damage spongy. Snoresville, it really doesn't fix the game. Nothing but a total overhaul could.

>>6196485
if i die even once a game is not 'easy'

>>6196632
>>6196681
>>6196779
The bossfights with the patch are much harder than any boss in classicvania games. Easily as hard or even harder than Dark Souls bosses, so if you like it you'll like this too. SoTN's bosses have well designed attack patterns and stuff, but deal too little damage and have too little hp in the original game.

>>6196485
I think the game being pretty easy is one of it's positive elements. Alucard as a character is already more superhuman than a Belmont (who isn't Julius), and he has centuries to piss around mastering sorcery and swordsmanship so its hardly unusual that the game is more about all the cool shit you can do to dunk on it and crack it open for all the superfluous toys Alucard can mess around with.

Game is basically Alucard just collecting his inheritance and beating the shit out of his crippled father.

>>6196681
the clock tower and the chapel have platforming anon

I'm kind of glad most of the game doesn't

>>6196803
>Easily as hard or even harder than Dark Souls bosses
opinion discarded

>>6196817
Sorry, it's just what came on my head as comparison. I can't think of any other retro ARPG that has bosses like it. SoTN is an ARPG too.

>>6196790
Retarded faggot.

>>6196803
>SoTN's bosses have well designed attack patterns and stuff, but deal too little damage and have too little hp in the original game
I remember how broken magic is with most bosses dying in just three fire balls or the mass soul spell when they were big enough.
That's why I still enjoy a "luck mode naked" as you called it, gonna play it this weekend hoping for the best

>>6196485
>Removes the Shield Rod when its effects could actually be useful in this hack, all because they don't want the Alucard Shield to be spammed

>>6196898
>Unlimited uses of stuff that is already in the game as consumables
I can't see the problem

Does it remove the inverted castle? Because the game gets old real fast once you get there. It’s pure bloat.

>>6196803
>The bossfights
There's a reason I don't put much time into playing fighting games against the AI or beat 'em ups; they're not that interesting. Castlevania and Mega Man were ruined when they stopped being platformers. It's why games like SotN (though visually and aurally excellent) and Mega Man X4 are kind of snoozers to actually play

Play the Sega Saturn version extra levels a little harder and you can use the real Maria not the crappy psp version.

>>6196485
Has the Saturn version always been as expensive as it is or when did it go up in price?

>>6197002
Saturn Maria makes an easy game absurdly easier. Also the Saturn port is shit with extra load times, slow down and extremely fucked pixel scaling.

>>6197112
>Saturn port is shit with extra load times, slow down and extremely fucked pixel scaling.
Truth

>>6196485
The glaring flaw is the shitty English voice acting.

>>6197176
play the psp port and problem solved.

>>6197176
The voice acting isn't bad, it's way better than the original Resident Evil. That said, bad acting can be really enjoyable in it's own right anyway.

>>6197176
the voice acting is great what are you talking about man

nobody would be talking casual in a fucking vampire castle

>>6197239
I mean think about it, Richter is raised from birth to fight this universe's literal antichrist, Maria is completely detached from reality growing up with fucking feng shui sorcery for friends, and Alucard is so traumatized by his heritage as well as being inherently autistic as a half vampire that he both literally spends actual centuries as an immortal wizard permavirgin hikkikomori.

The english dub is what this trio of autists and Alucard's CTE dad would actually sound like.

>>6197226
It’s still bad.

>>6197176
Die monster.

Is this compatible with the JP version?

But I was already having fun.

>>6196632
This duder gets it.

>>6197332
>le epic meme xD

>>6196485
Does it fix the insultingly bad level design with mostly straight corridors or corridors that go right, then up one story, then left, then right again ad nauseam?

>>6196519
Aesthetics were amazing, the concept was fresh, the soundtrack was top quality, but gameplay was pretty bad.

>>6197302
He means that the PSP version has an option for the original japanese audio with subs.

>>6196632
The game doesn't need ot be a platformer to be good. But the game needs to be SOMETHING to be good, and SotN really excels at nothing in terms of gameplay. We loved it for the visuals and the music, the visual kei shit and Maria's titties, anything but gameplay. And I doubt it can be fixed with a patch.

>>6196827
Did you just apologize to a troll?

>>6197839
The sad part is that if the artists and composer had been working on a great game like the earlier Castlevanias it would have resulted in a masterpiece. What a waste

>>6197851
Earlier CVs had equally good art and even better music. Thus resulting in masterpieces like the original game that's still pretty much unsurpassed, really.

>>6196512
Half the fun is discovering new equipment and trying various combinations of weapones and shields. Just throwing out 80% of gameplay to make the remaining 20% hard is self-defeating.

lmao classicucks.

>>6196540
richter mode speedruns are pretty enjoyable and short actually

>>6197861
I doubt "classicucks" would bother to patch castleroids of all things. This is for people who loved SotN back in the days but grew out of its childish challenge curve. When I played it as an 11 year old, the difficulty was actually just right. Now, after numerous challenging games like the entirety of the series, all Makaimura games, numerous shmups, the entire Souls series etc., SotN just doesn't stimulte at all.

>>6196540
>You can see that this is something the devs accepted as criticism and tried to fix it in the other Metroidvania titles since they aren't as easy as SoTN.
CotM and OoE were harder, but HoD, AoS, DoS and PoR were just as pathetically easy as SotN. If you wanted a challenge, you had to download a save file, start on Hard, sell equipment, waste the money, and then you had some semblance of challenge and were able to finally see that enemies had actual attack patterns and there actually was some level design and everything.

>>6197868
this is just another SOTN hate thread in disguise.

>>6196485
>SoTN is the best game ever made
This is is everything that is wrong with this board in a handy single sentence.

NOOOOO YOU CAN'T DISCUSS SOTN

>>6197879
Are you retarded? /vr/ criticizes SotN probably more than any other online community.

>dumb faggot #1: oh my god not another SotN hate thread
>dumb faggot #2: oh my god not another SotN praise thread

>>6197903
That gif is so cool.
The sauce if anyone cares: https://www.deviantart.com/moonshen/art/OlroxQuarters-828960214

>>6197839
>the visual kei shit
Preach, brother.
This is the best thing to come out of SOTN:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwnbOf84gL8

>>6197935
I just fucking realized the kid in that video is Alucard, mind blown

>>6196485
>fixes the only glaring flaw: Lack of difficulty
>patches makes it TOO HARD
Then thats not really a fix there chief.

They sure have amped up the difficulty. I can't touch yellow medusa heads without crashing the game.

>>6197869
>CotM and OoE were harder
CotM was harder because you had to grind for everything and there was no store to stock up on spammable healing items. OoE had a similar thing, but the real thing to make it "harder" was bloating enemy damage to absurd levels.

>>6197838
Subs are even more fanfictiony than the original tho.

>>6199151
I mean, it's 2020, you should know japanese by now.
Also
>caring about the plot
It's not even that interesting
>muh dampire!
Just watch Vampire Hunter D (1985).

>>6198789
If you had to grind at all in CotM you just suck at video games.

>>6197869
>but HoD, AoS, DoS and PoR were just as pathetically easy as SotN

No. Only HoD is comparable to SoTN out of all those. AoS, DoS and PoR all have challenging sections and bosses. PoR specially has the hardest boss in the series. Took me quite a few attempts to beat Dracula and Death.

>>6196804
I've been saying this forever. SotN is supposed to be a power trip.

>>6197828
The same could be said of all religions.

>>6196803
>harder than dark souls
Jesus christ anon what the fuck is your problem mate.

>>6199450
Yeah, but power trips are only rewarding (at least to me) as a reward for overcoming great challenges, and there's no real challenge to be had. You have the reward without earning it, and to me that sours the experience.

>>6196803
Please leave

>>6200649
rewards are the devils candy

you should be doing shit for your own experience and preference, because you want to, not for validation

>>6200787
Power trips feel good because you feel powerful, but if you are ALWAYS powerful (no challenge) then you don't really feel strong because your enemies could just be weak, but if first you have to overcome a challenge and then you can easily beat the once challenging enemies (reward) then you know you got strong.