/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[2-6] Bigger keys for Redneck Rampage
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=354&t=67237

[2-6] Rampancy, Yholl's new monster mod based around robots
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=67193

[2-5] Raze, a Build engine source port backed by GZDoom tech
https://github.com/coelckers/Raze
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT4mZUwuoXQ

[2-5] Russian Overkill celebrates 10 years with a 3.0 release
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=29915&p=1135514#p1135514

[2-4] DBP20 released, an eight-map episode for Doom 2
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/111782-dbp20-dungeons-and-demons/

[2-2] 32 level megawad Czechbox released
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/czechbox

[2-1] Jimmy, Dragonfly, AD_79, and MTrop will attempt to make an entire megawad in 24 hours while livestreaming the whole thing.
Stream starts 6:00 UTC, Feb. 8th
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/111094

[1-31] War Trophies updated to v1.1
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=67054

[1-30] MetaDoom in need of some testing for feedback
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=53010&sid=9eda803bcd8d257f71290769acb19f74&start=1665#p1134341

[1-30] La Tailor Girl follower mod released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=67163

[1-29] Doom Eternal to allegedly not have any MTX
https://youtu.be/7bw65h8yeXI

[1-28] January Jump Jam released
http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61832

[1-24] Champions monster randomizer is updated to v2.666
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=60456

[1-23] Kingpin: Life of Crime is getting a remaster under the title Kingpin: Reloaded. Set to release some time this spring.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1224700/Kingpin_Reloaded/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B_kgepGyro

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What are some WADs you guys recommend? Mods are fun but if I don't have fresh maps to use them on it gets boring.

Xth for you mad gay lol

>>6185784
If you want new maps to play modded combat on just generate some with Oblige or whatever is current. Most mapsets are made with vanilla gameplay or their own modded gameplay in mind.

>>6185784
I just skim winners of caco awards and download everything there

https://www.doomworld.com/cacowards/2019/

>[2-6] Rampancy, Yholl's new monster mod based around robots
Where are my weapon mods, doctor eggman

>>6185779
Brand new wallpaper.

>>6185779
New wallpaper that I made.

>[2-5] Raze, a Build engine source port backed by GZDoom tech

it seems like there are various build project popping out recently. are developers finally tired with programming for idtech?

Can anyone recommend me some "Tech Base" styled wads to play with Rampancy?
Just finished Equinox and the feeling of fighting loader bots in giant warehouses and tiny spider bots vents was just great.

>>6185885
Lunatic.
Its five maps set on a moonbase, complete with neat outside sections, it'll fit beatifully.

>>6185779
All Doom games are good.

>>6185846
Maybe an increasing appreciation for Build engine games, which to be honest has been a clusterfuck in regards to source ports.

>Fun megawad
>Decent level design, challenging but fair encounters
>Devolves into slaughtermaps towards the end
EVERY FUCKING TIME. Doom isn't supposed to be about fighting 1000 monsters in giant arenas, its about tight well designed encounters and exploration. How did this nonsense get so popular?

>>6185942
It's just cheap modern level design so they can fit fighting into one section and suddenly decide to blow a huge ton of poorly made story on another.

>>6185885
BTSX E1 sseems perfect for Rampancy; I'd give that a try.

>>6185947
Yeah, but I'm talking about megawads for Doom 1 and 2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fMmSkl3aco

Zero Master still crushing it

I didn't notice a new thread was up
>>6185963

It's like all the different parts of the level don't quite fit together properly, and and the pixels are constantly flickering all over the place like a snowglobe.

>>6185947
>>6185949
This stuff was popular and fairly common 20 years ago.

>>6185968
in your hardware rendering options, check that "rendering quality" is set to quality and not speed.

>>6185968
Set render quality to Quality. By default it set to Speed which cuts some corentrs with surface edges.

>>6185964
I wonder why he's envying and disrespecting Bloodite Krypto if he's that good.

>>6185942

embrace the slaughter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opoeqiQbAHE

>>6185968
you're using a version of gzdoom that forgot how to render edges without gaps between them
you're seeing those gaps

>>6185973
>>6185974
It's already on quality, that was one of the first things I changed when I first started using a source port.

>>6185979
fug

>>6185981
>>6185979
Yeah, for a few versions there was a bug that caused it to ignore the option and settle for speed.

Update.

>>6185984
That did it, ty. I avoided updating for a long time cuz I heard that newer versions had compatibility problems or something.

>slaughtermaps are bad
only if you're bad and are shit at doom lmao
just infight its not hard

>>6186002
>He thinks people don't like slaughtermaps because they're bad at Doom
People don't like slaughtermaps because they're all the same and get super boring after a while. Also the infighting makes things MORE boring as you can kite around for several seconds without shooting and suddenly all the enemies start killing eachother. Doom was not designed for slaughtermaps. Go play Serious Sam or Painkiller if you want slaughtermaps

>>6185942
t. doom3guy

>>6185942
If it's a megawad from one author, then I always assume it has to do a bit with burnout from making so many maps and just kinda going "fuck it". Other than that it's people thinking 1000+ monsters makes for an interesting "final boss" since fighting the IoS is so anticlimactic on it's own.

>>>6184515 Forgot to respond; it's mainly Eviternity and it's first heaven map. As soon as I start and get off the elevator things get choppy. Turning on vulkan renderer helps a good deal but it's still noticeable

>>6186005
>People don't like slaughtermaps
>Also the infighting makes things MORE boring

speak for yourself, slaughter maps are fine as long as they are not nuts tier box levels

>>6186005
>Slaughtermap is baaaaaaaaaaad because I'm playing it wrong
it's all so tiresome

>>6185885
Suspended In Dusk

>>6186005
>Go play Serious Sam or Painkiller if you want slaughtermaps

Comparing Doom's slaughter maps and how the monsters and weapons interact to SS is retarded. A few BFG shots or some rockets lets you kill dozens of weaker monsters and infighting clears enemies even quicker. The same size fight replicated in SS would be a 15 minute slog where as it could be finished in a fraction of the time in Doom.

I don't really like slaughtermaps but saying they're boring is just plain wrong, and at the least having a shitload of guys in one or two rooms is a good way to spice up a level.

>>6186032
>but saying they're boring is just plain wrong,
Boooooooring.
>Spam BFG until its over
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn

>>6185942
I don't even like slaughter but don't be a bitch.

My favorite times in doom were when I was rocking it with a shotgun

>>6186048
err... second favorite time. First is berserk pack

>>6186041
>only ever uses 1 weapon
>whines that it's boring
Knee Deep is pretty boring if all you use for 90% of the episode is the shotgun too, anon.

My favorite times in half-life was when I destroyed a tank with a crowbar

>>6186056
Shotgun is infinitely more entertaining than a BFG. Why is it every FPS game has a shotgun a defining weapon and not some green explosion. A map designed without a BFG is better than one with a mandatory BFG

what are these three talking about?

Dead Marine makes the vanilla weapons sound and feel so good, but what is up with that rocket launcher hit sound? Sounds like a cartoony FX of someone munching on cereal

>>6186074

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0rQrAzBGGo

>>6185942
How many times have we had posts like this?

>>6185942
>Fun megawad
>Decent level design, challenging but fair encounters
>someone complains it becomes slaughtermaps towards the end
>it either doesn't, or it's actually still fun
EVERY FUCKING TIME

>>6186136
I should get some Pokemon Ruby carts and put the Doom (2) boards in them.

>As you get older your reaction time gets worse
Has anyone began to notice this yet? Sometimes I round the corner and I just stare at an enemy for a second, its like its registering in my head and I see what it is but my hands aren't moving. But if the enemy makes a noise I still react like I always do. I've heard people react faster to auditory stimuli compared to visual. Has it happened to you?

Looks reasonable.

>>6185779
Its hard to believe that Opposing Forces was directed by the same guy that eventually went on to become a highly egotistical, animal abusing asshat responsible for the vaulting of the Duke 3D megaton edition on all official platforms with an affinity for CP.

>>6186167
>animal abusing
The fuck

>>6186154
No.
t. zoomer

>>6186180

he retweeted a video of animal abuse and tried to defend it when people called him out on it

>>6186203
What the actual fuck?

>>6186090
Not enough, you guys keep doing the same shit.

Now with thiccbois

>>6185846
How is the Eduke32/Duke4 crowd reacting to this? There was a lot of negative posting around BuildGDX for some reason despite how well it runs.

so i've been kinda on a star trek kick lately. are the elite force games any good or is it just lewis the cockslut over hyping them?

>>6186239
First one felt kinda short from what I remember but is absolutely a solid game. Can't speak for the second.

>>6185942
>Doom isn't supposed to be about fighting 1000 monsters in giant arenas, its about tight well designed encounters and exploration.

sounds like the people who actually make stuff for doom disagree

>>6185779
Damn that shit is cool as fuck

>>6186236
From what I could tell from the thread over there about Raze, it's general disinterest mixed with "why do we need another source port when we have Eduke/Nblood/Rednukem/BuildGDX exists?". Then it derailed into talking about the Polymer render and the HRP.

Whats the best way to play Powerslave; PSX or Saturn? I know the DOS game is supposed to be radically different, but I have no clue if there are any differences between the console versions.
Also are there any decent sourceports yet?

>>6186287
Saturn's the best version, play it on Mednafen with it set up to emulate the Saturn analog controller using whatever X/direct input controller you have lying around. Plays beautifully and surprisingly smoothly considering it's a Saturn.

>>6186236
I think the anger over BuildGDX was moreso that it was Java.
There's sort of a mega hateboner for Java in a lot of dev communities, and honestly, it's not entirely unwarranted.
But it's a good port, so I don't think it deserves it at all.
I am looking forwards to seeing something that's more inherently optimized though.
My biggest problem with GDX is how poorly the original Software renderer runs, given that it has the best atmosphere imo. (That, and the lack of palette emulation.)
Luckily with all these projects springing up, like Raze, among some others, there's a good chance we could finally have a "definitive" port of Blood within the next few years, which is an exciting prospect.

>>6185942
...
well.

If slaughtermaps weren't so fun to so many different people, then maybe no one would make slaughtermaps.

Sorry anon, it comes down to taste.

Where's the mod that adds one or two SSG spawns to each episode for Doom 1, this shit is ridiculous

>miss a single secret in ep1 and you don't get a rocket launcher until like e1m6
>Shores of Hell is kind enough to give you a grand total of maybe 400 cell ammo and 20 rockets over the course of the first 6 missions
>it makes you fight 6+ barons up to this point
>rooms with 10+ pinkies in them
>rooms with 6+ cacodemons
>rooms with pinkies, cacos and barons
>you get a backpack in like the 2nd level and its whole reason for existing is to carry around 100 shells that you'll never run out

>>6186323
git gud

>>6186154
Can confirm. It's why I've navigated away from shooters and decided "fuck it i'll just go be cozy in astroneer since i can't hit a fucking thing"

>>6186323
I've literally never had issues with ammo conservation in Doom 1.
2 and Plutonia are where they start fucking you over on UV if you're using ammo willy nilly.
The standard shotgun is a lot more versatile than you probably think, and same goes for the chaingun. People seriously underestimate the chaingun because I think they forget that not only can it basically be a sniper rifle but it also stunlocks a large portion of enemies, even some of the bigger bads like Cacos and Arachnotrons in Doom 2.

>>6186323
What? I pistol start and never have any issues.

>>6186335
elderly doomguy comic chilling out because he's too old to fight or get around without praetor much to the disappointment of demon children when

>>6186314
Yeah, and one billion flies enjoy the same shit.

Doom should have been like the game Romero, Petersen etc. created it, not the ugly cancer Plutonia turned it into.

>currently on map 5 of No Rest for the Living
All I've got to say is this is the real Doom 2.

I finished the original three episodes of DOOM and started Thy Flesh consumed. The first level is way harder than anything in the first three episodes, there aren’t any med kits.

>>6186325
I'm not having difficulty beating the episodes you brain damaged parrot, I'm having difficulty dealing with the tedium of shotgunning 5 cacodemons in a row.
>>6186336
>>6186339
Holding M1 for 5 minutes straight with the shotgun or chaingun is boring.

>>6186154
I'm turning 28 this year, and no I haven't. If anything I'm better at games than ever, I was garbage at them as a kid.

>>6186414
Episode 1: Knee Deep in the Dead
Episode 2: Sigil
Episode 3: No Rest for the Living

>>6186167
The CP part isn't true. The rest is though.

After finishing Thy Flesh Consume should I play Sigil or go straight to DOOM II?

>>6186484
This is legitimately going to be how I play Doom from now on.

Also Doom 64.

>>6186489
Yes.

>>6186489
Play Sigil, it's amazing.

>>6186445
>9 waters
>12 helmets
>1 green armor
>mandatory rocket secret
>another secret that locks you in a cage match with 2 barons
>"Fuck the player," says American McGee

Have fun starting the 2nd level with 15% hp and considering yourself lucky.

>>6186489
Do Doom 2 first, you'll better appreciate it that way. Also Sigil is harder, so consider not jumping into UV immediately.

>>6186484
>>6186498
The Shores Of Hell is objectively superior to Knee Deep In The Dead

Friendly reminder that those who appreciate No Rest for the Living should play Redemption of the Slain as it was made by the same author, except for GZDoom only.

why does this map make me feel so sad

>>6186513
Nah.

>>6186520
I'll check it out once I'm done. Thanks.

>>6186524
>muh tan/brown/gray techbase!
>only zombiemen, imps, and pinkies
>no cacos or lost souls
>only 2 barons of hell
>no hell parts
>no plasmarifle
>no berserk

>>6186535
You appreciate e2 as much as you do because e1 is so basic.

>>6186505
I discovered the rocket by accident, but is not that well hidden, fighting two barons at the same time that can teleport in such as small map is straight up bullshit.
>>6186509
I have been playing on UV since the beginning but I did hear it can be pretty hard.

>>6186548
Sigil is much better on UV than anything below that.

>>6186352
>>6185942
>How did this nonsense get so popular?
modern shooters focus more on being in the action and as such things that take you out of the action are toned down. everyone wants to be the star of their own action movie but nobody wants to wander around looking for keys, switches, etc.

my question is why is shooting in a first person shooter such a huge problem for you? are you bad at them or is it something more than that?

>>6186551
Is good to know Romero still got it. I wish him well in his new game.

>>6186557
>my question is why is shooting in a first person shooter such a huge problem for you? are you bad at them or is it something more than that?

I'm not that guy and I actually like slaughtermaps but I fucking hate faggots like you who talk like this. Like literally everyone who doesn't like something you do has something wrong with them. It's how little kids argue.

>>6186561
that is how the spiritually semitic argue

>>6186560
Hopefully he's working on those new Hexen maps like he hinted at.

>>6186560
>>6186575
HEXEN IS A SUPERIOR GAME TO DOOM

>>6186578
I mean Hexen is my personal favorite but I'd still argue Doom is the better game.

>>6186532
Don't forget to play it with Doom Metal, which is a must for the wad. And since ammo count is optimized for Brutal Doom, an early segment with muh Cacodemons can be problematic. But after that it's an amazing level.

Babeldev, if you visit, what pre-existing mods are you using for Babel? I recognise Smooth Doom weapons, but what gore system etc.?

which fucking sourceport doesn't cap Doom's FPS at 35, wtf is this shit

I hope romero's maps still have puzzles and shit but none of that fucking seven portals "what the fuck did that do?" shit

>>6186625
The original game was set at 35fps with an internal timer to run consistently and with stability on all kinds of computers.
Later sourceports can let you play with uncapped framerate though, such as GzDoom (make sure to put on Doomguy's glasses)

>>6185841
they were really smart to make the opening area so damn comfy. the game may be shit overall but you start strong and get at one very memorable moment.

>mfw the Doom community gets tired of people complaining about Doom 2's level design and overcorrects to the point of being in complete denial just to spite those who complain

>>6186631
huh? has he confirmed making hexen maps? all i saw was a throwaway "i could possibly do this" comment

>proper first person classic arms when using the skins
Yay!
>black gloves
BOO!

>>6186668
>>black gloves

>>6186557
Because I like well crafted combat situations and exploration. Slaughter tends to be just overwhelming numbers of monsters and infighting.
>>6186561
Also this.

>>6186271
They can disagree all they want, it smacks of a lazy attempt to make a tough map.

>>6186680

Whos the guy in the background?

>>6186731
Phobos

>>6186731
Guy in the background is doomguy. The one in the foreground is 100% going to be fucked up by those barons.

>>6186731
Multiplayer Co-op.

>>6186535
>muh tan/brown/gray techbase!
You know it.

>>6185846
No it's just there isn't much left to do but QoL stuff.
>>6186167
Randy was also a level designer at 3d Realms before that and yeah fuck him but that last part just isn't true.
>>6186239
They're pretty great, EF1 is fantastic and EF2 is not as good but it's still really good.
>>6186287
Powersalve EX
https://www.dosgamers.com/dos/dos-games/powerslave-exhumed

>WMD (Wad Manager for Doom)

Is this the best and straightforward way to manage WADs and mods?

>>6186775
no.
i control + click, the way god intended.

>>6186769
>Powersalve

>>6186780
I don't get it.
If I keep doing this it will be a real mess. It already starts to be difficult to manage all these copies of ports, settings, pk3s. Waste of space.

>>6186791
i just put the wads in with the gzdoom folder i had when i downloaded them, its a mess but its my mess

>>6186795
Tried that before this new method of making separate folders for each one of the mods.
Didn't work. It was trash.

>>6186287
I'm going to second the Saturn version. The superior US version is actually kind of hard to find online so I'm gonna do you a solid anon
https://archive.org/download/redump.ss/Powerslave%20%28USA%29.zip

Make sure you run it on Mednafen like the other anon suggested, all other Saturn emus have issues

>>6186775
I just use DoomRunner

>>6186203
I don't remember this. Do you have a link to a more in-depth story about this? Thanks.

>>6186805
Why people never talk about SSF emulator?

It never ever failed me even like 13 years ago.

>>6186801
i also have almost a thousand or so wads sitting in my ide folder from back in the skulltag days, if I didn't have that many wads I would love to just sort them by category but its just not possible for me to sit through and test all the strangely named wads and figure out what they are.

>>6186818

>>6186817
SSF was great years ago when it was the only real option, but there are better options now. A lot of games just don't work right on it.

>>6186809
He posted a video of a crab attack a cat, and that video was later taken down for animal abuse. When people called him out for being a prick, he responded with pic related.

>>6186841
so it wasn't animal abuse? It sounds like it was just one animal attacking another.

Pretty sure i've encountered an unkillable Archvile.

>>6186561
>>6186692
>but I fucking hate faggots like you who talk like this. Like literally everyone who doesn't like something you do has something wrong with them. It's how little kids argue.
i'm sorry you feel personally attacked by what was meant to be a harmless question. but this honestly sounds like a you problem.

>>6186827
Really? I am way behind then, But then again I started my rampage of saturn games like years and years ago.

And never returned to saturn emulation.

>>6186856
You're not missing much to be honest. Most of the library is SHMUPS that play better on arcade emus.
Powerslave is great though. Maybe a bit overrated for what it is but it's definitely a good game with killer atmosphere.

>>6186862
I replayed most of my own personal childhood early teen stuff, played some shit I never got to play like motherfucking panzer dragoon saga which was amazing. And just stopped. Saturn has some cool shit, but in many ways the ps1 era is infuriating.

You can replay the 16 bit era or DS games much easier. Or even old ass pc games.

>>6186848
The cat and crab were purposefully put together for the crab to attack it, while the cameraman laughs at the cat getting pinched.

>>6186870
ok that makes a lot more sense. I didn't know the context of it.

>>6186484
all these types of posts are either a bait to make fun of "purists" or someone not wanting to accept doom isn't perfect, after overhyping it before actually playing it

>>6186873
Or maybe those episodes are just the cream of the crop? In terms of official releases, that is.

>>6186227
Now with 400% more dakka

>>6186898
dat ass. Also is that the Turok 3 model but made to look like her 2 appearance?

>>6186227
>>6186898
What is this? I'm a huge Turok fan and want more Turok content.

https://twitter.com/CreeperOfSteam/status/1225628776479907840

>>6186902
>>6186914
I guessing you haven't been here over the last 3 weeks

>>6186923
No, I sporadically visit /vr/.

>>6186902
more like a hybrid of the two designs

>>6186484
E3>E1>Sigil>E2>E4

>>6186928
1>Sigil>4>3>2

>>6186925
Neat. So what is this?

>>6186924
>he wasn't here when Turokanon was shitposting the dooM general with handcrafted (sometimes erotic) content

>>6186939
A Turok TC for GZDoom in the works

>>6186885
https://files.catbox.moe/uc62i9.wad
this is the best wad I have made so far although I got lazy at the end. if anyone wants to play it, it's on map05. really simple, 8 secrets, and I tried to put some nice detail into it.

>>6186056
This was me a couple weeks ago
>Join slaughtermap coop
>Try to use other weapons for fun
>Other players start telling me to use bfg, one said he was "dissapointed" in me for not using bfg.

These maps are obviously designed for bfg only, and they are basically all the same boring slogs. What kind of braindead mutant could enjoy that?

>>6186946
people who play chillax survival and stuff like that multiple days a week are some of the most spastic and intolerable people you will ever meet online.

>>6186945
Fun map. A bit simple and easy, but it wouldn't have felt out of place in vanilla Doom 2. I agree on the ending.
The path to the blue key took me a little bit to find. I'd have made that lift just a little more obvious.

metadoom should have a codex entry about marine doom

>>6186931

5 > 1 > 2 > shit > 4 > 3

4 is ahead of 3 because of the two Romero maps.

>>6186942
I was kinda hoping it was more mods for Turok EX.

>>6186167
Anyone else here hate Romero for his egotisim as well and refuse to give him any money
Oh who am I kidding it's Doom fans they'll suck it's cock until only the nerves are left

>watching DoomBuilder tutorials
>get to video 7
>Michael suddenly sounds like he's drunk or been up for 36 hours
Hope you're okay Mike

>>6187024
ok baldy

has anyone updated the wadsmoosh/doom_complete.pk3 of all the official released doom campaigns with sigil yet? i only have the one without sigil

Anyone who's played through Doom Zero, how do you get some of those secrets where its like, a door opens but you cross a sector that closes it, i could never figure out how to circumvent it

>>6186634
why is nearest with mipmap better than just nearest, i never quite understood the difference even looking at the game

>>6186668
>arms look like meat jelly smeared in vaseline instead of the hairy manly man arms he originally had

Huh.

>>6186481
It didnt hit my until me 30s. Now I know why counterstrike players value high quality headphones

>>6187068
elaborate

>>6187071
>hear enemy around corner
>brain gets prepared to react more quickly

>>6186972
I hear you.
On a more positive note, I always meet the coolest people playing summer vacation doom. Not even sure how I feel about the wad, just keep running into genuinely chill people there

>>6187076
I don't think my hearing has gotten any worse, my reflexes seem about as good as ever (they weren't ever particularly good).

>>6187006
romero is shit stop trying to overhype him as perfect

>>6186853
I mean two seperate people feel that way, so there might be something to it.

>>6187058
3d models were a mistake

>decide to spice up my next playthrough of the original games by using freelook, UV pistol start and an aesthetic mod
>load up Smooth Doom
>too close to vanilla but black gloves are tasty
>load up Beautiful Doom
>full of bloat and unfitting effects but the enhanced stuff is neat as well as the moving decorations
>load up Dead Marine
>like the chunkier sounds, ~aesthetic~ HUD, the light gore but its in eternal beta and Redux is some reblance mod
Guess I gotta learn how to bastardise some mods together, I want me some black gloves

>>6187116
Eh, more like devs thinking everything needs to be shiny like plastic to show off their lighting engine. Was a mistake.

>>6187131
Its really just how you can't have things look mildly hairy in 3d. You can make shaggy monsters now but arm hair will look odd. Early 3d models could have an "armhair" texture plastered over flat polygonal bodies but as time went on if you did that it would look like shit. We finally have the technology for tons of hair but the entire thing has to be super hairy.

https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/hairy-arm-c02ceddd38b948ed8e8b6fbdd5c8ea87
Oh god its terrible lol. I seriously cannot find any more examples of hairy arms in videogames.

Can somebody share their GZdoom graphical settings?

What's the upsides of using Prboom? Is it the closest in terms of vanilla gameplay while still being able to play more maps?

I like Doom

>>6187169
i think there was also demo compatibility

>>6187175
Doom is cool.

>>6187127
Mod cobbling can be a lot of fun. It's how I got the courage to start on my project.

I never noticed this until replaying now, but who the fuck was responsible for the midi audio mixing in TNT?
Holy shit man. Some of the songs are so fucking quiet and then you get to map08 and your ear drums get blasted out of your fucking skull.
I haven't noticed this with literally any other IWAD or even fucking PWADs for this matter.

>>6187169
It runs alot better as it and GLBoom focus on optimisation instead of complex map features (like 3d floors) and moddabilty like GZDoom does.
>>6187175
It's pretty fun.

>>6187290
Does it? I never noticed, though I'm playing on Crispydoom.
Also what's the deal with TNT using zombiemen so much?

>>6187290
I haven't noticed that. What soundfont are you using?

>>6187296
I think they probably wanted lots of big gunfights.

>>6187298
Using the SC-55 soundfont, to be precise the "fixed" one which is just slightly better than Patch's original.
Running under VirtualMidiSynth.
I actually thought it was the software being fucky at first, so I changed it to Timidity, which I still had from an old installation, and then even the Microsoft standard Midi, and all of them have really equally bizarre audio levels for songs.
It's especially noticeable on Map08 and 11 of TNT, especially 11 where the solo guitar feels like it's drilling into my left ear.
Wondering if the newest installation of VirtualMidi actually just fucked up some underlying midi mixing process and I'm fucked. Hope not.

>>6187312
I have never noticed the volume discrepancy before, is your iwad proper?

>>6187335
Same one I've been using for years transferring between different installations.
Just sifted through Doom 2 maps and noticed some minor discrepancies too.
Which means it's something to do with the midi software's mixing itself.
Really fucking bizarre. Guess it's overriding the natural mixing.

fucking wholesome mods when boys!?!?

>>6187349
How would a wholesome mod work?

>>6186853
The other anon was right, this is definitely how jews behave.

>>6187353
chex quest.png.troj

>>6187127
>decide to spice up my next playthrough of the original games by using freelook

Do a lot of you goofballs really play with freelook off? I don't know how you can stand it. I hate not being able to fire my rockets and BFG shots exactly where I want them to go

>>6187398
I do it on a vanilla run, but Half-Life and Quake 2 spoiled me on freelook over 20 years ago, it just feels better to look freely and to not rely on the vertical autoaim.

>>6187349
https://jp.itch.io/mr-friendly

>>6186002

>>6186005
This. W+M1 with a BFG or Rocket Launcher is the pinnacle of laziness. There's nothing skillfull about that. There is nothing skillfull about running to safespots while holding the most powerful gun in the game to incentive infighting.

You're fooling yourself if you think slaughtermaps are difficult. Well planned combat such as in Sunlust will always be more complex, intriguing and creative than spamming hordes of Revenants and HKs and giving the player a BFG with unlimited ammo.

>>6186008
>If it's a megawad from one author, then I always assume it has to do a bit with burnout from making so many maps and just kinda going "fuck it"
I don't really buy into the idea that a mapper only made slaughtermaps in their megawad because they got lazy or didn't care anymore. Most one-man megawads I've played that had slaughter by the end still felt like the mapper put in the effort. Certainly nothing in the likes of nuts.wad, which for all intents and purposes, was just slapped together for testing the upload process on idgames.

>>6186885
Pretty cute and good map. You imitated American McGee's style really well.

Here's a FDA.
https://anonfile.com/54MbL4W7na/000-anonmap-00000_lmp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHv5YhQ4Uns

Cacowards then: "hey guys check these cool things out"
Cacowards now: WOULDN'T IT BE SSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOOO FUNNY IF WE PISSED OFF PEOPLE BY PUTTING JIMMY AND LILITH ON CACOWARDS?! LOL!

>>6187608
t. graf

>>6187608
Im new to doom mods drama, Lilith looks like some experimental nongame and Jimmy looks like some guy who makes music and maps. I can see being annoyed at Lilith but Jimmy doesn't seem bad, I played Jenesis and thought it was fine outside of a few moments where he used a non standard looking switch. Is there a different Jimmy or did the one I'm talking about do something shitty?

Why is the lighting so fucked? I swear it wasn't this dark before I updated it. All the options are different from 3.2 to 4.3 so I can't find anything that unfucks this ridiculous low light draw distance crap.

>>6187659
nvm I found it

>>6187659
>>6187663
Tell me this is bait.

>>6187608
One problem I have with the older cacowards is that some wads basically won purely for requiring a source port. "hey this otherwise pretty boring and uninteresting wad has more sectors than possible on vanilla? amazing!"

>>6187665
The graphics options are laid out differently in 4.3 fuck you.

>>6187608
Whats so bad about Jimmy getting a cacoward? He's been contributing midis for the community for well over a decade at this point. Surely he's deserved some recognition?

>>6187676
If the only reason you're getting an award is because you've been doing it for so long then you don't really deserve the award.

>>6187691
>If the only reason
I never said that was the only reason.

>>6187691
nobody besides you considered this an issue

>>6187703
I don't even know who Jimmy is, not everyone who chimes in and disagrees with you is the guy you were arguing with.

>Mekyr
>Makyr
>Maker
>Unmaker
>Yeelon Mekyr
hmm.
HMM.
i know what i'm doing then

>>6187673
Care to give any examples? Genuinely, I'd like to ponder the possible rationale.

Potentially they wanted to drive sourceport development, possibly they were just very wowed by the tech and wanted to mark it as a milestone.
Assault On Tei Tenga didn't win an award, but was on a top 100 list on one of the anniversaries, and I can tell you that it's certainly not because Assault On Tei Tenga is this really good .wad that everyone should go out and play, but really just because it has historical significance.

>>6187728
very HMM
this bitch is totally the icon of sin or mother demon though.
just compare the wings extending to the sky to the tentacles descending from said sky.

>>6187739
also the cover art is a clear refrence to kama sutra's vagina icon of sin

>>6187705
>I don't even know who Jimmy is
A midi composer who has contributed midis to numerous projects (many of which have won cacowards) for over a decade. He also has contributed maps to many projects, and even made a cacoward winning megawad called Jenesis.
The Espi Award is for recognising people for the impact they've made on the community. I think it was inevitable that he would win that award one year.

>>6185779
So what do you think of Raze so far?

>>6187349
Have you tried Magikus ?

>>6186775
I will use Qt ZDL. Seems like a well made program.

>>6186959
Putting the Ranger into a dimension where he can't jump is just cruel

>>6187739
>>6187728
okay I'm feeling a bit nicer on this now. Map names:
0/000: Shajjefwhatthefuckisitspelledas
1/001: Somewhere once known
2/010: NEXCORE Asylum
3/011: Roadtrip through the Apocalypse
4/100: Improb-Argent Condenser
5/101: (????)
6/110: (????)
7/111: VI TOS SOKAR!
8/1000: Mekyr's REALM

and a music track i dont know where to use
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly58PZJ0mVM

I need to sleep so I'm posting this now to make sure everyone knows that iT'S SCREENSHOT SATURDAY.
WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING ON? MAPS, MODS, SPRITES? IT'S HIGH TIME TO STEP UP AND FUCKING SHOW US WHAT YOU'VE BEEN MAKING.

>>6187916

i've made several posts already so i'll just leave you with some texture swatches on this one

So ZDL has been bothering me with that "there's an update avaiable" thing at the top, and I decided to do something about it. Now, this github repo https://github.com/qbasicer/qzdl seems to have the sources for ZDL 3.3, which is written in Qt5, but there's no releases or executables of it. Do I have to plug this thing into Qt Creator myself and compile it from scratch?

>>6186940
>Turokanon
At first I thought that read "Turkoanon" as in anon who is Turkomen from Turkmenistan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuashnsNe74

*blocks your path*

What's the most technically impressive mod you've ever seen for DOOM?

Still looking for that Anon working on a system shock mod, if you're here gimme a you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ6BnaE0Inc

I feel as though Doom Eternal shouldn't have started by just dropping you in a quiet room with two hapless possessed.

The entire game has this philosophy of not wasting your time and never straying far from the action, so I feel as though they should've taken a cue pacing-wise from the trailer and dumped you IMMEDIATELY into an arena fight from the start, like how DMC3 opens. Just a minor nitpick.

>>6188114
You posted that yesterday already. And not on /v/ aswell. Get the fuck out.

>>6188121
You sure do act like a true /v/tard.

>>6188114
I thought the philosophy was to waste time and interrupt the action constantly with cutscenes and micro-cutscenes?

>>6188114
I'm mostly hoping those tutorials can be turned off. I'm not too fond of being teleported somewhere to test out the chainsaw and such.

>>6188114
>>>/v/

>>6188134
Are you sure you know how to shoot demons in a sequel to a 26 year old game that's about shooting demons? I think concepts this advanced need to be explained thoroughly.

>>6188168
It seems pretty weird how they went from no tutorials in 2016 (IIRC) to having them now. But honestly, it'll be a minor inconvenience at best.

>>6188185
I'm hoping they'll have an option to disable them. Cause it looks like a massive pace breaker.

>>6188193
I wouldn't mind it as much if some of them were removed, having one pop up for each weapon is a bit too much. Hopefully they'll all be gone and done with very early in the game. But considering they have skippable cutscenes it doesn't seem out of the realm of possibilities to disable them.

>>6179802

REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>6187778
No clue what it is, link?

>>6188212
>this bath water is too cold!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAf3fBPk-iA

>>6188231
Is that the Real Angry Video Game Nerd?

>>6188150
>>6188121
>reporting and deleting a doom eternal post in doom general
imagine

nu-doom is not /vr/

>>6186636
>you start strong and get at one very memorable moment

This exactly. It might be one of the greatest opening areas in gaming history.

>>6188317
Clearly you're not allowed to post something two people in the thread don't like. Despite it creating discussion about the series overall.

>>6188317
>>6188341
>y-you can't delete my off-topic crap
>I-I will spam how mad I am now

>>6185780
Russian Overkill hotfixed.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=29915&p=1136358#p1136358

just finished playing the master levels. about half of them were hot garbage, with mephisto's maosoleum being the fucking worst, mainly due to the fact that i had to restart the entire level because i had no rockets for the icon of sin.

>>6188350
Go ahead and start spamming then.

>>6188401
Dream Daddies of the Dark Citadel

>>6187674
That's just software mode. It's how the game looked like originally. Miles better than visuals where all the lighting and shadows are bland.

>>6188431
Not that anon but is a shame hardware looks so bland, I'm running Dead Marine and the blood on the walls keeps glitching out in True Color/Doom Software mode

>>6188401
>faces
eh

>>6187963
Better yet, you can just disable the message in the options. It isn't like we'll be getting that update anyway.

ADON! YOU TWO-TIMING PASTY WHORE!!!

Heya. My Oculus Rift S arrived today and I wnated to play some VR Quake and Doom using Fishbiter's ports that were shown here a while ago.
The problem is - I can't get them to work.
GZDoom launches and gets to the menu, I can change texture options and other options, but after chosing episode and difficulty, the game just doesen't start. After chosing the difficulty, menu disappears and nothing loads. I can call up menu again, and attempt to chose episode/difficulty but it does not progress further than htat.

Quakespasm port does not work at all - all I get is a black screen that always stays on top of everything else and prevents interacting with anything - I cant even close it - the only way to turn it off was to reset PC completely, which I did 10 minutes ago.

Other VR games run just fine.

Please send help

>>6188502
Don't blame her, Joshua was killed. A lady alien has needs too.

>>6188401
daedolon looks like THAT?
...maybe he's not the worst class after all

>>6185779
Final Doomer : Hellbound Guy
is there a fix for this?

>>6188554
Change the bullet spark type to... fancy I think? Yholl is aware of this issue though and it'll be fixed later on

>>6188496
Well, I built it from the github after all, and it works fine after a few minor tweaks (move some files around and comment out one line). I just don't remember how to include static Qt libraries with the exe to let it launch from outside the IDE and I don't care enough to google it.
So the update is already there. It just doesn't exist in presentable form, you have to bake the whole thing yourself.

>>6188558
ok figured it out

FD options Change the pullet puffs from vanilla to glow style or glow and spark style

trying to find the name of a map pack for doom 2....

one of the maps is a UAC base layout and you start in a n open room, if you move one direction you come to a room with a rocket shooting down into the ground and chain gunners behind it. I remember a lot of glass and there's a section with some huge stairs going up and two hellknights that spawn on either side of the stairs.

I THINK it was a map pack involving a bunch of different mappers doing their own style in episodes.

>>6188620
sounds like the second map from ZPack https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/zpack

>>6188681
Yes! thank you, gonna have some fun tonight

>>6188401
Why does Parias looks like he's about to cry?

Well I finally finished No Rest for the Living and, honestly, it's pretty much perfect. Level 5, Vivisection, was my personal favorite map.

>>6188734
Thingken of Church

Are there any wads out there like Beautiful Doom/Smooth Doom but for Hexen or Heretic?

>>6186946
you run out of BFG ammo in seconds on slaughter maps. you should use a weapon that fits the situation - rocket launcher for choke points, shotguns for encounters with lots of free space, plasma and chaingun for clearing out hordes of small enemies and BFG for nuking archies before they will resurrect half the map

>>6187608
To me, this is the problem with the Cacowards.

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=53010&sid=569891f5a611b29d9a6e0ae2e1c3a04d&start=1680#p1136307
https://twitter.com/kinsie/status/1226116210854465536

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEPbqEzRDZM
>imp attacks
>lost soul
What the fug

>>6188796
Cringe.

>>6188796
Zombiemen are fragile, what's not to get?

>>6188798
>cringing at gore
This is not the place for you.

>>6187916
i found a "closest point in line" formula and put it to good use
every main beam segment fires mini beams at enemies in range

>>6188796
He explains it. I've yet to see a Lost Soul do it though.

If you wanna play Blood today, which do you pick: NBlood, or Raze?

They use the same code with minor differences, no?

So I guess I should just go fuck myself if I wanna try pistol start Tech Gone Bad on UV?
Jesus christ Romero, its some cool theming you got going but holy sweet mother of fuck

i wonder if doom eternal could do what wolfenstein tnc did and was to make a "opposite" version of the first game by making you play as a demon fighting the uac and/or sentinel
like an official mod just to follow that easter egg
i'm surprised there wasn't a wad/mod before where its vision of heaven is picking up hell sprites and textures and create heaven equivalents like imps as angels and some jesus version of fireblu

>>6188923
I pick BloodGDX.

>>6185968
>>6185974
Why is the Rendering Quality set to "Speed" by default?

Does it have a big impact on performance in bigger maps or something? I've only ever noticed the "snow" white particles effect in Plutonia when using "Speed", never anywhere else.

>>6188929
Anon, Tech Gone Bad isn't even among Romero's dickiest maps. What are you going on about.

>>6188923
fresh supply :)

>>6188960
I'm running through each episode for the first time on UV and decided to stick play that after Phobos Anomaly. It feels Thy Flesh Consumed tier of ass fuckery but that might just be because I'm not attuned to later level UV difficulty. Guess I'll git gud

What is everyones thoughts on Knee Deep in ZDoom?

besides doom, do fanbases of other game series talk about how their games portray hell as much as some doom fans?
i assume its occurs a lot with doom because of the time it came out, along with its occasional art style shifts and how it treated its own "canon"

>>6189047
Accurate portrail of many modern Doom wads. Detail, detail, detail, and no attention to gameplay.

>>6189062
I assume people do with Diablo.

>>6189076
Bro, little compares to KDIZD, people don't emulate it, not these days, because it's not regarded as all that good.

>>6189076

you almost got me

>>6189126
because different opinion = bait, right

>>6189076
>modern
it came out literally over 10 years ago bro

>>6189128
On top of its legacy in the community being that it's all eye candy, poor gameplay.

>>6189153
>>6189076
>>6189115
You shut your god damn fucking mouth. KDIZD played great.

>>6188736
I feel like that map cranked up the difficulty to official Dooms highest threshold
Despite Plutonia,TNT, and some of E4 having some areas that ecen give returning players issues
None are as tight and filled with high damage enemies as that map IMO
It's a commendable effort by the mappers but it really kicks my ass on replays.

I am just retarded or is it impossible to climb down ladders in HD? Every time I try I just fall off

I see many people hating chaingunners mainly for poor or trollish placement.
What is the best use for them in a map?

>>6189182
Behind false walls.

>>6189182
False wall traps that sandwich the player, randomly placed unassuming rooms and hallways.

>>6189182
I like them, because they're very prone to starting fights with other monsters.

Does this kind of brush bumping add more detail for the ground, or just make it look worse?

>>6189252
i think the light bumbs make it look bushy

>>6189256
In a good way or bad way?
What I'm doing is stretching the sides to nearly the top.

>>6189261
looks like a bush to me if that's what you want. so a good way i guess.

>>6189252
Makes natural ground look more... natural.

>>6189252
nice Blood textures

>>6188923
Raze is on it's first release so no, play through the first level using both BloodGDX and NBlood to see which one you prefer.
>>6189182
>trollish placement
What a bullshit complaint, Romero's maps are loved because of troll shit same with Plutonia.

>>6189252
looks alright, just remember to use clip brushes to make sure player movement is smooth and monsters can path across

>>6187739
Heaven feels like something that should have been in previous Doom games to make more sense in the new games
>Classic
Something that mirrors/parallels most of classic Hell, so between the obvious and blatant JudeoChristian cliches and elements, there's some weird textures/props that sometimes look like some from Hell but different, with its own theme and color palette
A possible mix of tech and fantasy shit even, that robot angels could have existed along with a variety of other creatues, be it knights, centaurs, lions, angels or even Kahn Maykr and mecha/cyber Jesus
There's also cross keys as a follow up to skull/card keys
>64
A more simpler Heaven with its own atmosphere and props to mirror the gothic, non fleshytech approach for Hell
There could be their version of the Unmaker
>3
To make the setting scarer, it'd turn out that even Heaven was invaded by Hell and you can see their fancy temples and gardens ruined by Hell's presence
There's a cutscene of some angel begging for help before he gets crushed by a Hellknight and Cherubs from D3 are established to be corrupted versions of literal Cherubs
I guess the Maykr thing makes them opposite to the unadvanced/cavemen Hell and that there's other evil factions

>>6189286
NBlood's last release is very old though

>>6189306
Good idea, thanks! I knew of clip brushes from Valve games, but I didn't know that Quake had them.

btw, are Quake maps on a similar popularity as Doom wads? I know Doom mapping is much more popular, but I still hope people will play my map and tell me what they think.

>>6189359
>Good idea, thanks! I knew of clip brushes from Valve games, but I didn't know that Quake had them.
Half-Life was built up on a licensed Quake engine after all, hence it uses .bsp trees and can record and play .demo files and all that stuff.
Any game on the GoldSrc or Source Engine thus has Quake's and Doom's DNA in it, funny, isn't it?

>btw, are Quake maps on a similar popularity as Doom wads?
Not as big, but there's an active community, Arcane Dimensions is one of the most popular, you might have heard of it. We also had a newbie mapjam right here last spring/summer.

>>6189371
>We also had a newbie mapjam right here last spring/summer.
Oh boy! I'll be ready this time!

>>6189351
Last April is not very old.

>>6189373
It'd be fun to see another one, but you'd have to drum up some interest. I think people got excited for it (me included) with Quake's last birthday.
I think it was called HUH (because of course it was).

>>6189379
If there was a sequel, would we call it HUH 2, or something more creative?

>>6189384
HUUH?

>>6189384
>>6189395
I propose "HUH: HUH"

>>6189395
>Hell Under Under Hell

>>6189384
>HUHUH
>UHU

>>6189408
what about HUHHUH
and if we ever do a third one it will be called CRUNCHGROAN

Ranger! Ranger! Ranger! You have to defeat the elder god!

>>6189412
If for whatever reason we did one for quake 3, we'd have a plethora of HUHs to choose from. Personally, I'd go with Sarge's DOAH

>>6189408
>>6189412
How about like that one episode of the Simpsons
E I E I <Pdeath1.ogg>

>>6189418
A map pack for Quake 3 would be pretty lame, although there is that mod (EntityPlus I think?) that makes single player maps viable, but IIRC it was never very good, and last time I tried it (about a year ago) it didn't work with the source port I was using.

>>6189419
That's
g e n i u s

>>6189441
alright, so it's settled
I'll make the discord

>keep getting mapmakers block

halp

>>6189448
Just keep making 90 and 180 degree turns until you get a design you like.

who are some good doom or retro fps youtubers? i already know about civvie icaruslives and decino.

>>6189448
Had it for over two months now. I feel lost

>>6189315
Yeah. It would be nice for weird heaven backporting stuff.

>>6185779
Ter Shibboleth part 2 released for Quake. Weak PC's need not apply.

https://archive.org/download/tershibbolethpart2rev2/Ter%20Shibboleth%20Part%202%20Rev2.zip

>>6189506
This looks like an early 2000s fps game's attempt at realism by just slapping highly detailed pictures of real life things onto simple geometry.


I like.

>>6189412
how about this

HUH
U
H

I miss Megablast.

From a scale of "What's a furry uwu?" to "DEMON FUCKER'S LEAGUE". How's our boy?

>>6189537
>h-doom
Dangerously furry.

>doomguy barreling through hell with no armor but just a stupid pair of plastic rabbit ears on his head
That's funny.

>>6186780
>the way god intended
You mean command line?

The best maps are ones where you can turn around at the beginning and open up the door behind you for a secret.

>>6189571
>>6187916
you're in luck

>>6189571
>When collect the secret it spawns a chaingunner behind you and all you have is a pistol

>>6189586
I should put more Serious Sam secrets in my maps.

>>6189586
>>6189591
>collect megasphere
>cyberdemon spawns.

>>6189537
I refuse to believe that Doomguy doesn't secretly have a stronk rabbit fursona at this point.

>>6189286
>What a bullshit complaint
It's not my complaint, it's just what some people in the community say.
Personally I like Chaingunners because they actually make the zombie types a threat, and they have low enough health as a trade-off, but I hate it in mapsets like TNT when they're put at bullshit distances as a cheap way to lower your health.
If I were to ever bitch about a monster I'd be calling out Pain Elementals. Fucking discount Cacos with an annoying gimmick.

>>6189613
>collect health potion
>archvile spawns in the area you just came from

>>6189315
I always assumed Heaven was just sitting there the whole time going "Holy shit!" at the one guy putting them out of a job.

>>6189662
>Collect key
>Entire room ceiling starts to lower

>>6189676
>Collect key
>Open door
>There's just a wall behind it

>>6189680
>chainsaw sitting in the middle of an empty room
>nothing happens when you collect it

>>6187916
making my first map

how the FUCK do i make windows, also how do I make a door open when you step on something; i'm trying to have these pinkies ambush the player after getting the blue keycard

>>6189713
To make windows you just make a sector between two others and drag the ceiling down, and the floor up. Duh.

Here's how to make an action execute when the player walks over a linedef. In this case, you're looking either for a walkable action (W) that will open a door (Door Stay). So something like W1 Door Open Stay should work. Use the (fast) variation if that fits better. There's more you can tell just by reading.

>>6189742
Forgot to mention, you need to give the linedef AND the door it is targeting the same unique identification tag. You can see that just below the Actions menu.

>>6189694
>completely unprotected soulsphere
>walls you in with 4 reveants when you collect it

>>6189768
>teleports you away when you go to grab it
>its gone when you get back

Witchaven, good or no?
I require more Build Engine games, and I'm out of all the regularly recommended ones.

>>6189158
Vivisection is challenging, but Plutonia and Romero's E4 maps are still tougher, IMO.

>>6189807
Its kinda meh but I wouldn't say it was bad, I enjoyed it at times. Some people reeeaaaaly hated the weapon durability system, but its super easy to play around so I don't know what all the fuss is about. That said I never finished it

>>6189807
pretty bad but charming in a way.

>>6189694
>open Exit door
>expecting the end-level Imp
>it's already dead

>>6189640
I wouldn't really be phased. It might also make sense given the fucker has been through hell in the most absolute of ways. Doesn't even have the time for the PTSD to kick in.

>>6189909
>Enter room full of monster corpses
>Collect key in the middle
>SURPRISE!
>The tile it rests on exits the level

https://files.catbox.moe/g72xaa.bsp

hey its me again
I'm really not sure if I am on the right track, mapping wise, if anyone could try this out (seriously less than a minute) and give me feedback on layout and progression, that would be super dope.
For Quake, shouldn't require anything special

>>6190054
>enter map
>surrounded by chaingunners

>>6190121
yeah I've played Plutonia

Would it be possible to install and play Doom on a P-Touch label printer?

>>6190143
>Complete map
>Prints out a label of your results

>>6190157
>TIME: SUCKS

>>6190143
Do they have RAM, a processor, and any kind of storage capacity? That screen is gonna be a tall order at any rate.

>>6190106
- taking 'trench' in 'trenchbroom' too seriously. works for intro, gotta open things up later
- building everything out of thin walls is asking for leaks down the line. start with a larger grid. don't be afraid to use both sides of a brush
- a corridor isn't much of a progression. if you're having trouble coming up with one, just use the hack fraud "progression" a-la painkiller: make an open structure, then selectively block off ways to form a path
- nothing offensively bad yet

Since when has Eternal/2016 discussion been off-limits for /vr/?

There's been a bit of discussion of them here and there in these threads for months and nobody's really had any problem with it. It only becomes a problem when they're all/the majority of what people discuss, which isn't the case.

>>6190271
It's a few /v/tard lurkers who get upset and report any discussion of it. It baffles me how someone would want to shut down discussion about a doom game in a doom thread.

>>6187608
The Cacowards have always been political.

>>6190281
Unfortunately.
>>6190276
This.

I finally finished TNT. Should I finish Quake's Expansions, Blood or the Master Levels now?
Also, how do you feel about TNT as a whole? I thought it had some visually nice levels up until the end, but was overall too easy with most of the enemies being zombiemen.

>>6190301
Did you do Plutonia?

Doom 64?

If Cola 3 had a proper character like a lot of other gameplay mods, what would he look/act like?

>>6190310
Plutonia is all done, I thought it was neato. I did forget to mention 64, would you recommend that?

>>6190313
Like a fat ass cola addict

>>6190313
Like a soda mascot with that generic "extreme" attitude from the 90s

>>6190316
I'm looking to play it soon myself, but I've heard it's alright. Blood and quake are probably better experiences, but I'm definitely going to try and get 64 in before Eternal releases.

>>6190320
Hm, I'll finish Blood then since I'm on the last episode, or second last. I'm a fan of how 64 looks with all its designs, I may play it soon too before I finish the Master Levels. For a nice change of pace.
I kinda wish the Pinky from Eternal had the 64 design. It would seem so fitting.

>>6190319
>>6190317
>>6190313
Both of these.

>>6190301
I disliked TNT because the later maps were too big and it relied too heavily on distant hitscan as a cheap method of damaging the player.
Plutonia's maps are smaller with challenging encounters but it still feels fairer.

>>6190301
TNT is decent, but suffers from 1995-isms. I also can't stand Drake O'Brien's maps.
I actually kinda prefer Memento Mori 1, though its certainly not without it's 1995-isms too.

>>6188431
Yeah but you can't SEE ANYTHING in software mode.

>start a new map
>let depression set in
>leave map collecting dust forever
the cycle never ends