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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread >>6163562

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE/HERETIC/HEXEN/ETC
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other retro FPS welcome
~~ Let's post like gentlemen ~~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Thief)
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz
-Album of infographics with setup information and user-made content recommendations

Same thing, but in video format:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ietb4JwaaXA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGj4gXyCzg0

IWADs and more (>6 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake pastebin (2016-06-22): http://pastebin.com/XjBHDRFw
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Doom, Quake, Douk, Blood, and more)
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA
More /vr/ shooters
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ppJLNvQEPfP4FsOCQBak1TMvPUIswCac
Doom Shovelware
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Xy-YDWytlEa2CS9rit-PUgcieh4MrGzR


Doom RPG series
https://mega.nz/#!Y7AjEawA!Ta2RQuOC235v0wQoLtVR7HJoN7bsiawkujSlq8A1Da4

Launchers for Build Engine games
http://buildgamedosboxlaunchers.weebly.com/

== INFO/LINKS ==

OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/yzwgaLp7

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
https://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS
https://pastebin.com/aiEgdB3K

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=== NEWS ===

[1-31] War Trophies updated to v1.1
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=67054

[1-30] MetaDoom in need of some testing for feedback
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=53010&sid=9eda803bcd8d257f71290769acb19f74&start=1665#p1134341

[1-30] La Tailor Girl follower mod released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=67163

[1-29] Doom Eternal to allegedly not have any MTX
https://youtu.be/7bw65h8yeXI

[1-28] January Jump Jam released
http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61832

[1-24] Champions monster randomizer is updated to v2.666
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=60456

[1-23] Kingpin: Life of Crime is getting a remaster under the title Kingpin: Reloaded. Set to release some time this spring.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1224700/Kingpin_Reloaded/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_B_kgepGyro

[1-21] The Half-Life series is free on Steam until the release of Half-Life Alyx in March
https://store.steampowered.com/news/57848/

[1-20] VDP Monster Randomizer gets an update
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/106432-vdp-monsterrandomizer-updated-january-20th/?page=2&tab=comments#comment-2069131

[1-18] Mars 3D re-released with a full English translation
https://mars3d-game.wixsite.com/index

[1-14] Anon shares the maps for the now abandoned /vr/ Heretic Project
https://archive.org/details/vrheretic

[1-14] New Video, Doom add-on guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISSTfix7-iA&feature=youtu.be

[1-14] New Doom Eternal Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkklG9MA0vM

[1-14] Bethesda interviews Romero
https://slayersclub.bethesda.net/en/article/1vt4DnYWjIz6T8KbegBs8G/nods-to-mods-interview-john-romero

[1-13] Port of prBoom to GBA
https://github.com/doomhack/GBADoom

[1-11] Sunder update adds in MAP18
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/46002-sunder-map18-emerges/

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>> No.6170820
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6170820

first for better than Doom

>> No.6170823
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6170823

second for agitating skeletons

>> No.6170848

first for /vr/ halloween project never ever

>> No.6170849

>>6170848
it's only January, anon.

>> No.6170858

Problem one with metadoom: It deleted all of my keybinds, all of them.

>> No.6170871

Problem 2: It doesn't open in gzdoom like the readme says it does
Problem 3: I don't care enough to fix this
Could at least make the thing actually usable before asking for feedback

>> No.6170883

>>6170848
/vr/ Quake Halloween project
if it picks up momentum, lets make it a TC with new assets
I pledge $35 to the artist

>> No.6170887

>>6170858
I've had that happen before with other mods. I've noticed it happens if I close GZDoom prematurely by clicking the X button before it's done loading, but it happens only sometimes. I guess it's a matter of timing. Stopped doing that and haven't encountered that issue since.

>> No.6170923

Build engine shooters > id shooters

any other opinions means you are a cuck.

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6170935

xth for somewhere in australia

>> No.6170949

>>6170923
correct, but

id engines > Build Engine

>> No.6170965

>>6170849
Only for a few more hours.

>> No.6170980
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Still learning how to Quake!
Experimenting with lighting, since that's an aspect of the game I never really gave a lot of thought, which I guess goes to show how well utilized it was in the game.

Shame how low resolution these cube maps are though.

>> No.6170984

>>6170980
https://ericwa.github.io/ericw-tools/doc/light.html
you can increase the shadow quality when compiling

>> No.6170993

>>6170849
yeah, you are right, we are already late

>> No.6170995

>>6170883
quake always has halloween jams

>> No.6171009

Please delete the Half Life thread.

>> No.6171023

Has anyone ever tried to remake any of Quake 2 with a "Quake 1 art style" as a mod or something? I like both games but that sounds like a fun idea

>> No.6171031

>>6170858
is it the latest official update or the github version?

>> No.6171039

>>6171031
The one the op links to

>> No.6171050

So I'm playing through the Japanese Community Project and for some reason Archviles die in their "revive" pose. I'm playing with Smooth Doom and Nash's Gore Mod so maybe one of those is causing this? Its weird though, I've never seen it happen before.

>> No.6171053

>>6170923
Eh, until Ion Fury I didn't really care much for Build engine games.

>> No.6171059

>>6171053
What was it about Ion Fury that made you change your mind?

>> No.6171061

>>6170995
okay how about a quake /vr/ project for people that want to learn how to map

>> No.6171063

>>6171059
female protagonist

>> No.6171064

>>6171061
literally already happened
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/huh_final.html
you know what we need? a valentines mapping project. pink textures everywhere and the quad damage model is a heart.

>> No.6171076

>>6171059
The weapons were actually satisfying to use and the maps were gorgeous. Sure, Duke let you dick around wth stuff in a porno theatre but IF's shotgun is pure sex.

>> No.6171081

>>6169912
Nope, maybe in the next mod if I ever make one. If I could go back and do it again I'd have built the system to accommodate weapon mods from the ground up.

>> No.6171082

>>6171081
So what would do for a next mod?

>> No.6171085

>>6171082
No idea. I make mods when I get bored and want to play something that doesn't exist or want to challenge myself. I've been overplayed on Doom for a few years now honestly. I had an idea years ago where enemies would gain XP and learn as you played, allowing meta-progression that could be carried across mapsets and wasn't deterministic every time, but it failed in the design phase where I realized it just wouldn't be fun. I also had an idea where the mod was like Champions except the "champion" enemies had these spirits attached to them and you could steal them to get the extra powers the enemies had but once again it turned out to not be that fun in practice.
Essentially, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>> No.6171094

>>6171064
well lets do it again
HUH2

>> No.6171126

>>6170918
Brainlet, I specicially outed rev as an enemy with high HP+safe to melee, as an enemy that can be abused this way to not play like doom

>>6171087
No, I'm not fixing your shitty lying mod for you, nice try though

>> No.6171132

>>6171126
Rude.

>> No.6171137

>>6171126
>I'm not fixing your shitty lying mod for you
Well I wouldn't want to accidentally make you interrupt your own bad time with something more enjoyable, so... okay?

>> No.6171138

>He thinks his cheat mod is fun
lol

>> No.6171139

>>6171126
>Brainlet, I specicially outed rev as an enemy with high HP+safe to melee, as an enemy that can be abused this way to not play like doom
so berserk punching revenants is not "playing like doom" (whatever that even means, if it even has a consistent definition), despite that being one of the best ways to deal with them in vanilla
you're a bit stupid, you know that?

>> No.6171141

>>6171139
Stopping when you are at low hp to go fist fight a revenant for easy hp not including in the map is not doom, yes.
The fact I need to explain this is rather sad.

>> No.6171143

>>6171141
so... doing something you'd do anyway in vanilla because it's safer than any alternative
is not playing like doom
yes this makes perfect sense

>> No.6171146

>>6171143
Ah, yes, I have fond memories of healing off enemies via fisting them once out of map in reach in doom, instead of moving further into the map.

>> No.6171149

>>6171064
>valentine's day is 2 weeks from now
there's no way we'd be able to get something substanital done in time.

>> No.6171152

>>6171146
>vanilla: berserk punch any enemy you can safely kill because it's the most efficient way to deal with them
>babel: berserk punch any enemy you can safely kill because it's the most efficient way to deal with them, and gives you a little bit extra
yes this is absolutely nothing like vanilla I can see no resemblance at all

>> No.6171156

>>6171152
>and gives you a little bit extra
Extra hp is not 'a little bit extra'. HP is a finite resource put into maps by map makers. The balance of how much hp is in a map is very important. It is core to the doom experience. It is one of the things seperating it from shitty regen hp shooters for casual such as yourself.
If you don't understand this, you don't understand doom.

>> No.6171157

>>6171152
As autistically nitpicking as he's being. He's right, you don't get HP from punching bad guys in vanilla.
He could at least not be an asshole about it, just because you got the 'tisms doesn't mean you're unable to be civil about stuff.

>> No.6171162

>>6171157
You really should just not argue with people who are obviously mentally fucked up like our boi here.

>> No.6171163

all I wanna do is...

take the iortcw codebase (combining ioQuake3 code and the Return to Castle Wolfenstein code) and make a great classic FPS.

>> No.6171165

>>6171162
Oh I ain't arguing with the guy. Though I wonder if it's the same guy who laid unto GMOTA with that detailed feedback shit. Because if it is, a lot of that feedback was pretty fucking valuable.
Though the odds of us having multiple people like that here are pretty high.

>> No.6171170

>>6171165
Considering it's pretty obvious who it is if you've been around these threads for a while, it's highly unlikely he's the guy you're talking about.

>> No.6171172

>>6171170
I've been in these threads for far too long. Then I might be getting people mixed up.

>> No.6171173

I ain't the GMOTA guy and have no qualms with that mod since it makes no claim that it is close to the vanilla experience when breaking one dooms core design principles.

>> No.6171175

>>6171156
you're acting like HP is something that can be strictly controlled, when by the nature of being able dodge hits, it can't be. short of hurtfloors - which you can't use to control health either because what if the player did lose too much health beforehand? - there is no guaranteed source of damage in doom.
so getting a bit of extra HP back (and it is just a bit, 3-8 per berserk punch) from berserk punching some dudes - up to a max of 80, not even 100 - is not going to break a map's balance, because a map's balance could never be that brittle in the first place.
you're being a dipshit for no reason.

>> No.6171176

>Dodging is the same thing as being able to heal via punching braindead enemies after a fuck up
>Instead of being forced to move forward and find more hp
Come on sonny jimbo jambo jammy

>> No.6171178

Consider my power... in a hollow grave!

>> No.6171179

>>6171173
Well as harsh as you might be on Babel, I appreciate the honesty and clearing that shit up at least.

>> No.6171184

>>6171176
Not every melee encounter is supposed to be mike typsn's fucking punchout. Especially when there are monster closets full of the fuckers in close quarters.

>> No.6171185

>>6171184
Not every melee encounter is supposed to heal you. None are. wats ur point lad

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>S'Arais the autistic faggot comes back after presumably getting out of a literal asylum post gun threat
>Something besides his retarded madness combat project that he'll never finish anyway gets an iota of attention
>suddenly an anonymous "diagnosed" autistic shitposter will not shut the fuck up about how much he hates that thing and has one single poster continuously replying to him no matter how stupid the discussion gets
>coincidentally the author of the thing that got attention doesn't like S'Arais and has said so publicly
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>> No.6171196 [DELETED] 

>>6171189
if you're referring to me, I've already made my case that he's blowing a slight change in vanilla gameplay ridiculously out of proportion

>> No.6171201

>>6171185
having a percentage of lifedrain tied to melee is a wy to make it viable in outnumbered scenarios. Think how games like 2016 handle glory kills but without actually slowing down gameplay. Even Heretic and Hexen knew this with the powered gauntlets and the Serpent Staff's melee attacks respectively.

>> No.6171202

>>6171201
>like doom
>melee viable
lol

>> No.6171203 [DELETED] 

>>6171196
Considering you're replying to a guy who, no sarcasm or hyperbole, is retarded enough to bring a replica firearm to a highschool and threaten people with it in front of cameras, you should probably stop. Stop taking the bait. That or you're him doing his usual thing of pretending to talk to himself to keep attention on himself because his mommy and daddy never loved him.

>> No.6171204

>>6171202
Berserk punches are viable against pinkies and imps

>> No.6171228

>>6171202
>Has never played a map where ammo is scarce and melee is expected to be used vs enemies for conservation purposes

>> No.6171234

Oh I have. And if I got low on hp, I'd have to find more. Where the map maker put it. Not just punch shit.

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nice

>> No.6171253

I like Babel :)

>> No.6171253,1 [INTERNAL] 

Deleting facts doesn't make them go away jannies

>> No.6171261

>>6171064
I'm in
it will be the closest to a romantic date that I'm able to have

>> No.6171263

>>6171064
Hdoom2 electric fucking imps when

>> No.6171285

>>6171253
never listen to the autists anon, play what you want to play and as long as you had fun it is good.

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Doom64 is fucking great.
Redneck Rampage is not as bad as people make it out to be nowadays.
SIN is still underrated as fuck.
Doom 2s maps are good except the city maps.
Quake's original campaign is a real mixed bag probably due to not wanting to stress out hardware at the time.
Blake Stone was way better then Wolf 3d.
Heretic>Hexen

>> No.6171295

>>6171291
Yeah alright I agree with all this.
Redneck Rampage is kinda annoying at some parts though, and that game has one of the worst pistols I've ever seen in an FPS

>> No.6171296

Correct
Correct
Wrong, its underplayed, not underrated
Eh
Actually outright bad with insanely boring maps
Correct
I honestly don't remember the difference between these games because magic is gay

>> No.6171306

>>6171295
Agreed but people treat it like it's as bad as one of those crappy Wolf3d clones nowadays, like it's not as good as the holy trinity but it's not fucking Tekwar either.

>> No.6171312

>>6171296
>I honestly don't remember the difference between these games because magic is gay
heretic is doom but you use magic instead
hexen is heretic but more switches

>> No.6171315

>>6171296
>gunloving american can't appreciate the ecstasy of the wraithverge

>> No.6171318

>>6171315
I'm french but I'm sure the americans will enjoy seeing how obsessed you are.

>> No.6171320

>>6171291
Sin gets a bit brought down by the clear inexperience of the team with the engine, and its limitations.

The game feels immensely fun and dumb from beginning to end. Wish we had had more instead of the shit episodic game.

>> No.6171328

>>6171291
>Blake Stone was way better than Wolf 3d.
>even bothering rating them when ROTT is leagues above any other Wolfenstein clone

>> No.6171345

>>6171328
ROTT is so different I don't consider it a Wolf3d style game despite running on the same engine, like I wouldn't even call it a Wolf3d clone despite being the sorta not sequel to it.

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Added giant dragonfly and sentry drone
flamethrower can now burn plants and explosives can destroy certain rocks

>> No.6171402

>>6171347
>flamethrower can now burn plants and explosives can destroy certain rocks

oh boy time to hide secrets

>> No.6171406

>>6171347
Are people making stuff for the Turok remakes, any cool shit yet?

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>"Not only that but it also started the awful decline of FPSs from classically arcade-style games to cinematic bullshit.
Half-Life is the FFVII of first person shooteers."

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6171424

I think your games are like, real world physics. The games I like have like, totally fake like movement, like the physics of the game are not human physics, you can jump further than you could ever really jump, you can strafe jump, you can rocket jump, the physics are just crazy wild, nutty physics, i think your games are like, real world games, im not interested in that
If you fucking get some stereo headphones, get some fast internet, get online play some QUAKE... Holy shit, theres people coming from the left side, the right side, rockets are flying at you, you're fucking mowing people down with a lightning gun....

>> No.6171430

It's time to stop using the Half life boogeyman.

>> No.6171432

half life is overrated
its not bad, but its not the greatest thing ever

>> No.6171435

Doom is overrated
its not bad, but its not the greatest thing ever

>> No.6171461

>>6171406
Barely anything since Turok 1s editor is so obtuse and there is no real editor for TK2. 2 does have that Ascension mod which is a massive gameplay changer.

>> No.6171502

>>6171435
>>6171432
both you leave

>> No.6171504

>>6171502
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FghLvWxbn-I

>> No.6171506

Original Doom sound effects or PSX/64 Doom sound effects?

>> No.6171517

>>6171506
PSX/64 if only because the plasma rifle firing is less grating on the ears. Still don't understand why the pistol sound was replaced with a 50cal rifle sound (The Zombies TC has the same sound but in higher quality)

>> No.6171539

>>6171402
Not only that, I've implemented some behavioral quirks for cerain enemies:
Compy:
-Will pursue a target until healt below 50%, then will flee

Dilophosaurus:
-Will try to avoid melee (still can) prefering to be within spitting distance
-Will flee when taken enough damage

Adolescent Raptor:
-same as Compy

Adult Raptor
-will not flee
-will go into a sprint if target is too far away
-can leap
-Can do dodge maneuvers if it gets hit

-Roars and death screams can alert other monsters (within a certain range)

-Anything that is considered an animal has an instinctual fear of fire.

>> No.6171547

What's a good soundtrack WAD to slap on when I'm just running through some Oblige shit? I don't want anything super grindy heavy metal, but something a little more high quality and ambient than Doom II's beeps and boops would be nice.

>> No.6171552

Quake is overrated
its not bad, but its not the greatest thing ever

>> No.6171562

>>6171539
I love stuff like this. As long as there isn't some script necessitating the death of every enemy to proceed and a cowardly enemies manage to get somewhere impossible to find.

>> No.6171587

[Game you like] is overrated
its not bad, but its not the greatest thing ever

>> No.6171589

>>6171552
Quake 1 was fantastic. The franchise, not so much.

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what are the most overrated and underrated megawads

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>>6170807
>ripper chaingun cannon
>doesn't fire +RIPPER's
>doesn't feel like cannon either

>> No.6171650

>>6171562
Stuff like that really depends on map layout and enemy placement

>> No.6171661

At Map 24 of Plutonia.
As someone who was unironically enjoying the ball busting difficulty, these last levels just feel like slogs.
They're a lot less interesting in their designs, setups, pacing, and the difficult encounters moreso amount to Thy Flesh Consumed style "aight, here's a room with a Cyberdemon on one end and ten dillion randomly placed other enemies in a pit that'll fuck you over"

>> No.6171665

>>6171149
Alright, lets do Saint Patrick's Day then
or, Arbor Day, if you really want to give us some time

>> No.6171685

Does anyone have the name of that Doom mod that had third person Ninja Gaiden/DMC combat?

>> No.6171687

>>6171461
Doesn't 2 have a hidden editor?

>> No.6171740

>>6171424
but is he fucking wrong? Quake multiplayer is such a rush compared to most FPS games that it's not even fair.

>> No.6171749

>>6171618
overrated: Alien Vendetta. I honestly am super annoyed by that megawad. So incoherently designed. It's like what people claim Doom 2 to be.

Underrated: 10 Sector. Now that is a megawad. The limitation opens up so much creativity and the levels are just so fun. Sometimes I feel like I'm playing a really long Doom 1 episode with Doom 2 monsters. It's fucking comfy.

>> No.6171765

>>6171589
Quake 3 was great aswell
Quake 2 was more slow paced and had more puzzles like half life but its not that bad

>> No.6171771

What are some good ways to make a map not look so visually flat when it comes to wall textures?

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>>6171661
Why are these maps taking so long to get through now Jesus Christ.
I just wanna finish Plutonia.
I've come this far.
I actually thoroughly enjoyed this up till about Map 23 or so. This is just a fucking chore.
>Decently through Bunker
>About to grab the red key
>Crusher starts lowering that you can literally only avoid if you already know it's there and start backing up right as it triggers
You can really tell they stopped giving a shit.
There's a lot of mean traps early on but they're all easy to tackle if you've mastered how to read the battlefield and know how to get out of cluttered situations, bait enemies, use infighting to your advantage, etc.
But this shit is just unapolagetically cheap as fuck and stupid now. Just piling shit on top of shit and then dropping the ceiling on the player and going "damn, bet you didn't expect that one".
I'd rather play three more variations on fucking Hunted than go through some of these final maps again.

>> No.6171779

>>6171771
support pilasters

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6171842

How could I make a bunch of MP3 a wad file that is playable normally, changes songs on map change and or maybe add controls (next/previous song)?
Found this awesome channel with many playlists of MIDI rock songs.

www.youtube.com/channel/UCV4bhRhWhhzculVgV-VOrZQ

>> No.6171843

>>6171506
Original if playing with original Doom assets. PS1/64 is playing with Doom 64 assets.

>> No.6171846

>>6171618
Overrated: Eviternity.

Underrated: Struggle: Antaresian Legacy

>> No.6171861

>>6171846
disagree
but big agree

>> No.6171939

>>6170810

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/111094
> jimmy, dragonfly, ad_79, mtrop (plus misfits) make a megawad in 24 hours while livestreaming the whole thing
> 6:00 utc 02.08.2020

>> No.6171965

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YmYXIObhmM

>> No.6171980

>>6171589
I've been playing through this+dopa+mission packs since I only had the shareware episode as a kid. I'm really impressed by it. It feels great to play. I'll finish it off with Dissolution of Eternity tomorrow.
>>6171846
>Underrated: Struggle: Antaresian Legacy
Based.

>> No.6172010

How edit Quake monster properties?

I want to make Quake play more like Doom (more monster with less health, plus maybe some misc changes because why not) and I don't know what to do.

>> No.6172018

>>6170820
wow what a racist ad
whats heisenburg doing there?

>> No.6172025

>>6172018
if Breaking Bad was a 90s boomer shooter, what would the highest difficulty be?
"You're Goddamn Right" or "I am the One Who Knocks"?

>> No.6172038

Which Doomworld, GZDoom, Duke4 forum members did you spot by their grammar style and/or narrative?

>> No.6172050

This is probably a retarded question but is there any functional difference between "boom compatible" and "limit removing" maps or can I run any of them in prboom+?

>> No.6172052

Why did Shadow Warrior turn into a loot shooter?

>> No.6172054

>>6172050
If it's boom compatible then it lacks ZDoom functions that prboom can't make sense of, and limit removing means it can't be run in vanilla.

>> No.6172063

>>6172052
It did?

>> No.6172065

>>6172063
I think he means 2
the first remake is fine

>> No.6172067

>>6172063
Nu-SW2 did. Full on Borderlands, but instead of getting different guns you installed different percent boosters on your weapons.

>> No.6172096

https://twitter.com/kinsie/status/1223571528932921344

> the death anim

>> No.6172104

>>6170935
Problems with this picture:
- Misaligned UAC texture
- Tiling DOORSTOP, looks horrid. Consider using SUPPORT2 in an area of 16px instead
- The red fog is too strong, and looks bad in contrast with the light gray
- The blue door looks ugly next to the red and gray, which themselves are already ugly put together
- The stairs beneath the blue door look ugly
- The floor (and perhaps ceiling) of the circular 3D sector with the MARBFACE texture is colored wrongly, for the red fog of the area doesn't apply in it

>> No.6172105

>>6170980
If you're not aware of their existence yet, absolutely watch dumptruck_ds's tutorials on Trenchbroom, which is the editor you should be using.

>> No.6172126
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6172126

I'm sorry for asking a dumb question, but I tried to find an answer myself, and I couldn't.
When you record a movie in Quake, what it does is that it records your input, frame by frame. But what about enemies, or picksups? Does a movie also records everything the enemy do as well?

>> No.6172127

>>6172065
The first remake is mediocre. But yes, 2 manages to be even worse.

>> No.6172129

>>6172127
Nah, the first was nice.

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>>6172054
No, that's a dumb way to describe them and it doesn't answer anon's question.

>>6172050
'Limit-removing' refers to a wad that uses the original engine's capabilities with its linedef and sector actions. The difference is that the levels don't abide to the original engine's limitations such as visplane limits (which when breached, caused crashes) and drawseg limits (caused HOMs when there were too many lines onscreen at once), and many more.

'Boom-compatible' is a wad that was made with TeamTNT's 'Boom' format (something that at the time was exclusive for their Boom sourceport), released in 1997. It's still very advanced and is probably the most used format until this day.

Boom, just like 'limit-removing', removes the original engine's limitations. Boom adds new actions, such as deep water sectors, silent teleporters, generalized actions, screen color swapping, etc.

Watch this to see a shitload of cool Boom features https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7WBQH5-1ps

Nowadays, Boom format is used interchangeably with MBF format: it is exactly like Boom but it adds two new major features, 1 - transfer sky line, meaning you can use any texture as sky and multiple skies in a single level, and 2 - friendly monsters

And to avoid confusion, 'Vanilla' are levels that can be run on the original Doom engine, meaning they respect all the engine's original limits.

tl;dr: Both of these formats run in prboom+

>> No.6172132

>>6172129
Nope, it was mediocre.

>> No.6172138

>>6172132
>no argument
I accept your surrender.

>> No.6172140

>>6172138
>provides no argument
>expects a doctorate thesis as a reply

>> No.6172150

Maps over 30 minutes long should be illegal.

>> No.6172156

>>6172150
I'd go a step further and say 20 minutes, or maybe even 15

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>try out slayertest with the original campaign
>e1m2
>nonstop hellknight gangrape
This is bullshit.

>> No.6172183

>>6171201
>Wanting it to be like 2016
No

>> No.6172184

>>6172183
He also mentioned the life drain of Heretic's tomed gauntlets and Hexen's Serpent Staff.

>> No.6172204

>>6172025
Highest Difficulty: I Am The One Who Knocks
Lowest Difficulty: Bitch

>> No.6172213

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9w6Rb6Tpgc&feature=emb_title

>> No.6172219

>>6172140
You're the one that claims it was mediocre, the claim lays on you, you need to provide
I found it fun

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>>6170809
Duke 3D mod where Duke literally gives Hollywood a Holocaust in the 1st and 2nd episodes via purging dumblr and viceland goons as well as actors and directors who have been known for being rapists and pedos such as Dan Schneider, Dan Harmon and James Gunn. In 3rd episode Duke goes into Pizzagate territory and purges politicians and some rich businessmen like the Clintons, Pelosi, Anthony Kennedy, and Podesta for their corruption and slimeball activities. In the final episode he would go and fight the Reptilians of Alpha Draconus, not matter the cost.
>Episode 1: Hollywood Purge
>Episode 2: Dan Dies
>Episode 3: Pizzagate bust
>Episode 4: Death of Draconus.

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>Duke 3D mod where Duke literally gives Hollywood a Holocaust in the 1st and 2nd episodes via purging dumblr and viceland goons as well as actors and directors who have been known for being rapists and pedos such as Dan Schneider, Dan Harmon and James Gunn. In 3rd episode Duke goes into Pizzagate territory and purges politicians and some rich businessmen like the Clintons, Pelosi, Anthony Kennedy, and Podesta for their corruption and slimeball activities. In the final episode he would go and fight the Reptilians of Alpha Draconus, not matter the cost.
>>Episode 1: Hollywood Purge
>>Episode 2: Dan Dies
>>Episode 3: Pizzagate bust
>>Episode 4: Death of Draconus.

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>>>Duke 3D mod where Duke literally gives Hollywood a Holocaust in the 1st and 2nd episodes via purging dumblr and viceland goons as well as actors and directors who have been known for being rapists and pedos such as Dan Schneider, Dan Harmon and James Gunn. In 3rd episode Duke goes into Pizzagate territory and purges politicians and some rich businessmen like the Clintons, Pelosi, Anthony Kennedy, and Podesta for their corruption and slimeball activities. In the final episode he would go and fight the Reptilians of Alpha Draconus, not matter the cost.
>>>Episode 1: Hollywood Purge
>>>Episode 2: Dan Dies
>>>Episode 3: Pizzagate bust
>>>Episode 4: Death of Draconus.

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>>6172126
The way they did it in doom (and I doubt it changed much, if it all, for quake), was they only recorded your movements and the game took care of the rest.

Doom is deterministic, meaning if you did the exact same inputs every single time (like a demo does), the game would play out exactly the same. That's because enemy movements, behaviour, damage numbers (both given and taken) pull from the same table of randomly ordered numbers. This table is hard coded into the game and doesn't change. Every time you start a new level the game starts taking values from the beginning of the table, which is how things remain consistent.

Pickups work because all a demo does is change the source of inputs from the mouse and keyboard to the demo file. Gameplay logic is not affected.

>> No.6172254

>>6172248
Haa, I see.
I suspected it was something like that, (like in Ghost'n'Goblins or Touhou), but I wasn't sure, since enemies movements in Touhou are linear, and Ghost'n'Goblins took place in very short environnements.

>> No.6172274

>>6171749
What are some good level wads if not AV?

>> No.6172275

>>6172065
I like the first remake's story.
If only the weapons were better

>> No.6172291

>>6172150
>>6172156
Eh, I think long maps can be fine as long as the level design justifies the length (some long maps have each area so separate from eachother, that they couldve easily been shorter separate maps). Isnt too jarring compared to the other maps length-wise (ie, dont suddenly have a 2 hour long map in a wad thats otherwise only 5 minute maps). And that megawads should spread them out with smaller maps inbetween so as to not exhaust the player.

>> No.6172294

>>6171645
Still got the best sound and shits on Doom's minigun every day for that reason alone.
>But muh stunlock
Fuck you.

>> No.6172298

Someone told me the GMOTA dev lurks here: I'm not fond of the new guy. Waiting for the reload, or waiting for the charge when I can just be Doomslayer or the other guy is not engaging. Zoom being heal or ammo, and not aggressive when Doomslayer's zoom is throwing a sword that heals, or punches, is infinitely more satisfying. The staff is nice, and I like deflecting shots and pushing enemies with it.

>> No.6172306
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more zscript adventures
what if you had artificial ground that followed you upwards everytime you leave the real ground for the first time
> walking in the air
> jumping in the air
> landing in the air

>> No.6172307

>>6172298
Different strokes for different folks, same logic in a beat em up game, not everyone's gonna like every character. Though I'm gonna be taking steps to make Kustam a little more directly engaging in the next update. He's still gonna have the reloads and medi-tool shit.

>> No.6172309

>>6172306
looks like complete meme shit but feel free to make it into something

>> No.6172314

>>6172306
Sounds like it has potential if there was a map built around it, and was time limited a bit. Neat stuff.

>> No.6172316

>>6172294
I'll take reliability over style any day. Doom's chaingun is too useful.
Duke's pistol is infinitely better than Doom's pistol though.

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6172318

Isn't the Quake 2 engine better than the Q1 engine? Why don't people use it for mapping and modding instead? Porting the Q1 assets to Q2 can't possibly be all that difficult.

>> No.6172323

>>6172318
Because Quake 1 is better and there's enough mods, resources and sourceports to accomodate for the "lack" of features.

>> No.6172324

>>6171076
Original Duke campaign is still much better than anything in Ion Fury.

>> No.6172325

>>6172307
I respect you sticking to your guns. Everything else about it is great. Last bit then: You don't actually need to fully charge the staff to do a fully charged hit, I think. Not sure if that was intentional.

>> No.6172327

>>6170809
Such a shame that Hexen 2 doesn't have any mods...

>> No.6172329

Such a shame hexen 2 was ever made

>> No.6172331

>>6172325
Well in the current version there's four attacks that can be done with the staff, there's the normal staff strike, the rapid flurry jabs, the big charge attack, and the spin.
You might be doing the normal attack cus it's more of a binary thing for the charge attack, it's either fully charged or it's not.

Unless there's some weird fuckin fluke case I might have missed during playtesting.

>> No.6172335

>>6172329
>t.ghost of one of the Serpent Riders

>> No.6172337

>>6172335
Who are you quoting?

>> No.6172340

>>6172337
Don't play dumb with me fucker. I was quoting
>>6172329

>> No.6172342

>>6172331
It's definitely a full charge. Takes up as much energy and does the big wham. Give her a whirl. Doomslayer is king, and goodnight.

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>>6172318
They basically are the same. Q2 engine is the Q1 updated but looks like the Q1 engine is easier to modify.
Pic related is a heavily modified Q2 engine used in a vaporware W:ET styled game

>> No.6172345 [DELETED] 

>>6172340
korax is a salty little bitch after he bullied out of his splooge ball

>> No.6172346

>>6172324
Ion Fury's campaign was great...only the enemy rooster sucked.

>> No.6172351

>>6172340
korax is a salty little bitch after he got bullied out of his splooge ball

>> No.6172352

>>6172340
You should familiarize yourself with the definition of quoting.

>> No.6172353

>>6172316
Duke's rippercannon>shelly's MPs>Doom's minigun.

>> No.6172358

>>6172294
>>6172353
> minigun
get a load of this guy

>>6172352
> clueless

>> No.6172363

>>6172318
When it comes to modding Q1 has far more source ports and enemy variety.

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>>6172358

>> No.6172375

>>6172346
I disagree for its time Duke is fucking amazing, it has immense fun with itself it's an evolution of the mechanics already seen in other fps but taken to a really fun level.

Ion Fury is bland, and even as a throwback is not that amazing.

>> No.6172379

>>6172375
I disagree with Ion Fury being bland but not about Duke.

>> No.6172382

I wonder how many of you would praise Ion Fury if it had some generic Duke knockoff male character for the protagonist instead of a woman. Don't make excuses, you're just lying to yourself.

>> No.6172385

>>6172375
Get off the nostalgia train and enjoy the throwback ride. Ion Fury was great...you really gotta hate everything new or anything FPS to not acknowledge that.

>> No.6172389 [DELETED] 

Based jannies deleting the hl thread after 3 days.

>> No.6172391

>>6172385
>you really gotta hate everything new

How can you not? Even in 10 indies only one is decent. I was really bored playing Ion, it's just pretty that's it. Dusk stomps on it.

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>>6172391
>Dusk

>> No.6172395 [DELETED] 

>>6172394
Yes it does.

>> No.6172396

>>6172382
you do realize that goes both ways

>> No.6172401

>>6172382
It would still be crap.

>> No.6172402 [DELETED] 

>>6172395
Not retro. Doesn't even use a retro engine. Go to /v/ where you belong.

>> No.6172403

>>6172324
Even episode 2? The space section always kills my interest every play through.

>> No.6172405

>>6172403
Yes I love it. In fact find it really comfy. The lunar base is nice.

>> No.6172409

>>6172391
How can your taste be so shit and great at the same time. Can't you even agree on the bowling bombs being fun to use?

>> No.6172412

>>6172382
I would still like it, would be cool if you could play as Snake Logan or Halloween Harry.

>> No.6172413

>>6172409
They only hate it because 3DR apologized to some people, not because they actually think the game is bad. Even though 3DR went back on the apologizement.

>> No.6172414

Dusk is the epitome of uninspired and repetitive. It looks actually worse than the style it attempts to emulate, doesn't even have any air momentum and is laughably easy which contrasts it with the aesthetic "style" it is going for.

>> No.6172417
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Why did they make Shelly so boring, bros? It's like they were trying as hard as they could to make a badass female protagonist while also trying as hard as possible to not offend anyone.

>> No.6172420 [DELETED] 

>>6172414

My main issue with Dusk is the level design. 2nd is the difficulty. I slept on episode 2 3 for how easy it is, and the only actually difficult level is the one that's just a square and has constantly teleporting enemies in. You have to be an actual fanboy to think it is of higher quality than Ion Fury.

>> No.6172421

>>6172413
>They only hate it because 3DR apologized to some people, not because they actually think the game is bad.


How about no? But I appreciate the drama incel bait.

I gave Ion Fury ample opportunity. Merely competent does not cut it.
If it was made in the late 90s Shelly would have great one liners and would know how to have fun with itself, more edgy, fuck even cartoony. There is no spice of life in Ion Fury, just a pale imitation.

>> No.6172424

>>6172382
But I loke ion fury you defensive faggot. The main character is still a bit bland though. She's not a bad character, just not standout enough. She just seems like an angry cop who likes oddball comedies.

>> No.6172428

>>6172414
Calling Dusk repetitive is a bad joke.
>>6172417
Honestly it falls a lot on the voice actress and them not stealing enough one liners.

>> No.6172432

>>6172428
They should have gotten whoever does the voice for Lt. Typhon instead. The current VA just sounds smug and pretty obnoxious at times.

>> No.6172434

>>6172414
My main issue with Dusk is the level design. 2nd is the difficulty. I slept on episode 3 for how easy it is, and the only actually difficult level is the one that's just a square and has constantly teleporting enemies in. You have to be an actual fanboy to think it is of higher quality than Ion Fury.

Episode 1 is the best one, ironically. It has the simplest levels and actually attempts at being retro and goes full in with its theme. Episode 2 is full of boring arenas with Call of Duty-like jump pads, and weird progression with the keycards. Episode 3 is just a bunch of annoying gimmicks and no actual originality nor focus on combat.

It's bait for people who think they like retro games.

>> No.6172435

>>6172414
Dusk's style is just low skill programmer art though. Which is fine, I'd rather have a fun game than a pretty one.
The level design ranges from pretty great to pretty bad,but the gameplay saves it. That and the sight seeing aspect of it. Where you never really know what environment it's going to take you to next.

>> No.6172439

>>6172434
>It's bait
The meta commentary in these posts is getting stupid.

>> No.6172440

>>6172439
Nice argument.

>> No.6172441

>>6172439
The lack of self awareness in these posts is getting stupid.

>> No.6172442

>>6172414
>Dusk is the epitome of uninspired and repetitive
Anon, did you really play the right game or are you just blind?
>3 very different settings with crazy level design
>well designed enemies
>pickups like the superhot one
>calling the game repetitive while the classics have nothing that can compare with all dusk deliveres.
You're eighter blind or stupid.

>> No.6172445

>>6172442
Ion Fury people are very defensive almost proving mimetic theory.

Still it's not a terrible game, but it's not and never will be something to be remembered. Like other stuff from this era.

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>>6172434
>Call of Duty-like jump pads
They'll bury you in a lunch box.

>> No.6172447

>>6172440
Nice face.

>> No.6172451

Rise of the triad is just fucking bad and I tired of pretending otherwise. Comparing it with Doom or anything after is just insane. 90 degree angles ruin any chance at having good level design and the enemies are just shit in it.

>> No.6172461

>>6172451
>"How'd I do" plays in the background
You clearly did shit anon.

>> No.6172462
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How do I make these jumpable fences in a way that there's no wall of invisible fence under it?

>> No.6172465

>>6172461
Who are you quoting?

>> No.6172468

>>6172462
tick the "walkable midtexture" flag

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>>6172306
This would actually be really cool in a heretic or hexen mod as some sort of levitation spell.

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>>6172468
I set it up like this, now I can't jump over it at all.

>> No.6172484

For Hexen, Dark Messiah fans have you played elderborn?

Is it any good?

>> No.6172489

>>6172382
>I wonder how many of you would praise Ion Fury if it had some generic Duke knockoff
you mean shelly?

no seriously she's literally supposed off brand duke nukem because 3D realms lost the rights to gearbox.

>>6172405
>>6172403
my problem with episode 2 is that it feels longer than the other episodes and it feels like a slog for most of it. 1, 3, 4 and even 5 are relatively solid.

duke 3D & ion fury work best with urban environments.

>>6172434
>Call of Duty-like jump pads
dude what?

what call of duty game has jump pads?

>> No.6172493

>>6172489
I think people feel trapped by the space station environment, but I honestly thing the lunar base is great.

Urban environment are cool bu variety is necessary, Armageddon dudes did an amazing job showing that off.

>> No.6172496

>>6172482
untick jump-over railing
check the actual dimensions of the texture, namely the height

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>>6172503
Why

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>>6172515

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>>6172517
STOP

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>>6172526
this isn't even my final form

>> No.6172532

>>6172496
Thanks bro.
The textures were way taller than they needed to be and I cropped them. Now It works just fine.

>> No.6172535

>>6172475
but heretic and hexen already has wings of wrath

>> No.6172538

DoomRPG is fun and balanced https://streamable.com/bpqcr

>> No.6172557

What's the best way to play to Vanilla Wolfenstein 3D?

>> No.6172583

What's some lesser known Hideous Destructor maps?

>> No.6172594

>>6172538
Damn I thought somebody ported the real Doom RPG, Doom RPG 1/2 and Wolf RPG were great little games, and so was Orcs and Elves on the DS.

>> No.6172618

>>6172594
I remember seeing someone porting Doom RPG to GZDoom, but unfortunately I can't find any links. That guy was actually using assets from the original java game.

>> No.6172631

>>6172538
what's your mod list?

>> No.6172632
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>>6172618
I would love to see someone port Doom and Wolf RPG but it's seems unlikely, would be nice if someone ripped the assets.

>> No.6172637

>>6172631
Doom Roguelike Arsenal + Monsters
Doom RPG Rebalance
Doom Complete + Doom Complete Expansion
And a music randomizer the Rebalance dev added on along with all the patches.

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>>6171202
Absolutely. The bare fist isn't the greatest, but Berserk, aside from healing you up to 100%, will let you punch with the force of a rocket, which changes it all.
Shotgun baldies and chaingunners isn't the best target (but you if you can catch by a corner it can work), but for pinkies and lost souls it can work pretty great.
The chainsaw has utility too, you can easily stunlock pinkies with it, and actually even cacos if you find yourself at the right spots. If you can find a good chokepoint you can take an entire swarm of pinkies with just your chainsaw, and likely take little if any damage.

Looking at ZDoom based ports, the collision code is better and it actually makes melee far easier to use, mainly because monsters with bigger hitboxes like the fatso, cyber, and spiders, are difficult to connect hits with in vanilla, but now works reliably.
A lone arachnotron can easily be cornered and pummeled into submission with berserk, or given a hemispherectomy with the saw, and a fatso is possible too, even.

Hell, if you have a pillar to hide behind, the saw or berserk fist can be used to fight a lone archie, just be fast. Likewise for a boner, he won't shoot at you at close range unless in retaliation, where you can use cover or maneuvering to dodge his rocket and get back to boxing with him.

>> No.6172652

>>6172632
You've actually got me fired up, but it's been more than a year ago and I have no idea where should I be looking for that port. Unlike that DRRP thing, this port was actually really authentic.

>> No.6172656
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>>6172528
ok im all out now

>> No.6172658

>>6172656
>Black Doomguy
I'd play it but only if he talks as much as Duke Nukem and exclusively in blaxploitation quotes.

>> No.6172672

>>6172658
I always had an idea for a Build engine game that's inspired by blaxploitation the same way the holy trinity were each inspired by a genre of film.

>> No.6172678

>>6172672
It would have to be like a reverse Moon Man Doom to work in the modern day. God damn would it be funny though.

>> No.6172686

>>6172275
the story was whatever, the katana play was great

>> No.6172701
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>>6172678
Not really, blaxploitation films you always had three types of badguys, you had gangsters mostly black but it varied film to film, drug dealers and kung fu/horror things,each episode would have dealt with one of those ending with kung fu/horror and the final boss being the devil.

As for the hero they sadly already made the perfect blaxploitation Build hero into a movie.

>> No.6172734

>>6172701
I want a game about Dick Justice

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>>6172701
I want this as a western FPS

>> No.6172754
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>>6172025
The levels of difficulty in a Breaking Bad FPS from lowest to highest would be as follows...

>Bitch
>He can't keep getting away with it!
>You're Goddamn Right
>I am the one who knocks

A better question would be what the difficulty levels would be if The Sopranos was a 90's FPS game?

>> No.6172759

>>6172672
>>6172678
That'd be pretty cool, actually.

>>6172701
>you had gangsters mostly black but it varied film to film, drug dealers and kung fu/horror things,each episode would have dealt with one of those ending with kung fu/horror and the final boss being the devil
That works though. For a protagonist, straight up base him on Fred Williamson and Rudy Ray Moore, optionally make it a female protagonist, this would be the time where basing a 1960s/1970s female black character on Cleopatra Jones would be appropriate, because you're actually playing directly with blaxploitation as a genre.

>> No.6172768

>>6172434
This is the kind of batshit insane argument that people use when genuinely trying to defend Ion Fury for being a boring waste of time.

>> No.6172776

>>6172010
quake's monster properties & ai are programmed in quakec. the progs.dat file that comes with the game is compiled quakec. you'll need the source code and a compiler to create your own progs.dat to play with. its a fairly simple language to understand, and if you google it theres plenty of resources to read.

>> No.6172783

>>6172327
https://www.moddb.com/games/hexen-ii/mods

>> No.6172798
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Is there any way to display FPS in eduke32/Ion Fury? I'm running it on switch and need to try out different clock speeds to get it running "playable"

>> No.6172804
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>>6172759
The protagonist would be a mix of Shaft and Jim Kelly with every one liner we can lift, episode 1 starts with you being hired to rescue the daughter of your once friend turned gangster, he believes she has been taken by Black Nero the Emperor of Crime.

Episode One ends with you finding it wasn't Black Nero but the notorious drug dealer The Man who kidnapped her and Episode 2 ends and you find out that you find out that Black Nero and The Man were working together the entire time because they're both part of a satanic death cult lead by Master FuRu that plans to sacrifice the girl on the next full moon to bring about the end of days.

>> No.6172820

>>6170823
AUUURRRRRRCCCCCKKKKK

>> No.6172825
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>>6170809
I only wish that Quake mods were as expansive as Doom mods. I mean, look at this!

>> No.6172861

>>6172414
Based

>> No.6172890

>>6172096
Looks sloppy and i thought he's used the Bratwurst sprites instead

>> No.6172903

>>6172618
wasn't it that gerardo194 project with his brother?

>> No.6172907

>>6172903
Could be, I'm not sure

>> No.6172967

>>6172131
So they both work but there are some important differences between them when it comes down to it. Thanks for the explanation, anon.

>> No.6173027
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>>6172484

Holy fucking shit guys, I know it's not vr but this is fun as fuck, it's basically a really competent Indie Dark Messiah.
Already had more fun playing 3 straight hours than in amid evil, it's more my thing.

This shit comes out of nowhere. I just thought it looked like another jank TES wannabe.

>> No.6173037

>>6173027
Really? i saw a review that said the combat was brainless & repetitive.

>> No.6173040

>>6173037
For an indie? Good enough. Has enough weapons to compensate,blocking, parrying all the moves feel good. Especially the spear parry.

It really channels Dark Messiah in a good way, and with all the dodging fighting tons of enemies with different attacks is fun. I say nice fucking effort, like a million times better than say Underworld Ascendant. That shit left me sour.

>> No.6173063
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Does anyone know the episode where he tries out doom snes? saw this pic in an other thread, got curious

>> No.6173072

>>6172672
Good idea, anon. I always wanted a Vietnam build game. One that isn't ass I mean

>> No.6173080

>>6173063
It's the USA special.

>> No.6173085

>>6172825
problem is making models for everything isnt as easy as sprite editing

>> No.6173086

>>6171749
>Underrated: 10 Sector. Now that is a megawad. The limitation opens up so much creativity and the levels are just so fun. Sometimes I feel like I'm playing a really long Doom 1 episode with Doom 2 monsters. It's fucking comfy.

That long Doomworld mapping article called 10 Sector the first modern community project which I found interesting

>> No.6173120

>>6171749
I like the Alien Vendetta maps by Anders Johnson, Kim Andre Malde, Brad Spencer, Lee Szymanski and Anthony Soto. Maps from other authors varied in quality.

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>> No.6173134

>>6172754
>Mommy! Mommy!
>Pussy
>Gabagool? Over here
>Oooooohhh!
>Blackout

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>>6171347
Now with 300% more bugs

>> No.6173243

https://twitter.com/Darsycho/status/1223682095429640192

>> No.6173247

Isn't today Screenshot Saturday?

>> No.6173269
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>>6173247
i'll do this
IT'S SCREENSHOT SATURDAY SO IT'S HIGH TIME TO SHOW US WHAT YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON. MAPS, MODS, SPRITES? LET'S SEE WHAT YOU'VE DONE OVER THE COURSE OF THIS FUCKIN WEEK

>> No.6173274
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6173274

did quake 3 really not have vsync? I know there isn't an in game option for it but apparently the config value doesn't work either.

>> No.6173335
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6173335

reminder that pirate doom is soul kino

>> No.6173361

>>6173085
Really? I find it easier to make models than to sprite.

>> No.6173374
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6173374

>>6173361
>tripfagging

>> No.6173405

GZDoom c/s when?

>> No.6173407
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6173407

>>6173374
you could argue that the trip is relevant in this case because he's made multiple mods and "idk maybe youre gay" sounds better out of a person with actual experience than a regular anonymous dipshit
regardless, no one cares about that shit around here, settle down.
you should've contributed to the actual discussion instead of, or atleast in addition to, being a fag.

>> No.6173408

>>6172656
>just a naked bald white dude with piercings
delet

>> No.6173413
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Thoughts?

>> No.6173416

>>6173407
>dude you can be a fag if you've posted tons of shit offsite
No and fuck off

>> No.6173420

>>6173413
the caco has untapped memetic potential

>> No.6173440

>>6172434
>Call of Duty-like jump pads
I want to play this Call of Duty

>> No.6173527

Why do demons have buttholes. The Imps in Doom64 have the biggest holes

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>>6173413
>>6173420
this

>> No.6173556

>>6173420
remember laughing_cacodemons.jpg from like 2012?
I remember.

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6173641

hey guys

>> No.6173642
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>>6173641

>> No.6173645
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6173645

Pain Elemental 64 is fucking terrifying.

>> No.6173673

>>6170809
I just want to play doom 2016 in room ;-;

I mean, d4v is great but I need a nap pack T_T

Help

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6173689

>>6173673
>I need a nap pack

>> No.6173730

>>6173407
Trips should only be used when the user is posting content. If they're just doing regular posting it's best to just keep it off. Otherwise it comes off as attention seeking and generally not cool.
I should know. I used to post with a name when I wasn't posting content like an asshole. I stopped doing it after awhile when I realized that I was being an asshole.

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>>6173269
same thing i was working on last week

>> No.6173737

>>6173645
>lost soul deaths actually hurt in d64, making the tactic of hugging PEs no longer safe.

>> No.6173747

>>6173085
It's a weird scale. Some sprites are appealing, but easy to make (FEZ guy for instance). Some are appealing but very hard to make (Street Fighter 3rd Strike).
Versus 3D, something lower poly is harder to make appealing by comparison to low effort sprites, but something higher poly is easier compared to high effort sprites.

>> No.6173758

Thoughts on Sigil? I'm on E5M7. It's been okay but nothing amazing

>> No.6173760

>>6173374
Why discourage an annoying faggot from doing the one thing that allows you to filter them out?

>> No.6173765

>>6173642
No bully!

>> No.6173773
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6173773

>>6173269
ur gay

>> No.6173779

>>6173758
Awesome art and music with good levels, the lack of Doom 2 enemies drags it down.

>> No.6173781

>>6173730
>Otherwise it comes off as attention seeking and generally not cool.
look, I spent a lot of time on my awesome tripcode and I need people to recognize that.

>> No.6173784

>>6173779
>Awesome art
I'm seven levels in and I have no seen any new artwork outside of the splash screen when I boot up the game.

>> No.6173786
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>>6173269
just spriting stuff

>> No.6173787

>>6173784
I didn't say new art, Romero uses the old Doom textures to make some great visuals.

>> No.6173942

>>6170809
Cool "documentary" style video retrospective on the Soldier of Fortune series.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRpjtesBTzc

>> No.6173946

>>6173758
It's still Doom, which means it's still tons of fun. But compared to other Doom mods it falls into the realm of "good, but not great".

>> No.6173948

>>6171846
>Underrated: Struggle: Antaresian Legacy
Underrated. Won a Cacoward. Pick one.

>> No.6173964

>>6172150
Check out nu-Sunder. Map 16 has an estimated playtime of 6 hours.

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>>6173269

>> No.6173968

>>6173948
So what? I never see it talked about.

>> No.6173970

>>6172156
15-20 minutes is not that long.

>> No.6173980

>>6172583
Hell Revealed. Also, Hell Revealed 2.

>> No.6173994

>>6173942
>GVMERS PRESENTS
jesus thats cringe. still gonna watch though

>> No.6174017

>>6173942
20:39
Video is introducing the Slovakian company that developed the third Soldier Of Fortune and showing some footage of one of their 90s games. If you pause, you can actually see that the game uses fire brazier sprites stolen from Hexen. I dont know if that fits the definition of irony but it's definitely a funny coincidence.

>> No.6174036
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Alright, we know how everyone feels about the Build Enging, so what do you think about Build Engine 2?

>> No.6174075

>>6174036
45 years late

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6174076

>Can't stop gzdoom from screentearing no matter the settings

FUCK YOUR SHITTY PORT YOU HACK

>> No.6174084

>>6174076
works on my machine

>> No.6174093

>>6172129
>>6172132
Third opinion here, it's actually alright.

>basic story, enough to keep moving, and edgelord headmate sidekick
>varied and good amount of enemies on screen
>the classic roster of weapons, all with a little extra upgrade
>a lot of movement options and UT2k3/2k4 key combos to activate many and interesting powers
>largely bug-free, largely well performing on my shitty PC
>minor replayability options
>has a demo

It's clear that they cared about the game, if it were moddable it would still be relevant. I'd much take it over NuDoom and NuDoom: Eternal. Now that I think of it, it's pretty fucking good.

>> No.6174097

>>6174076
what are your specs?

>> No.6174109

is yquake2 the best go-to for quake 2 or is there something better i haven't heard of?

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>> No.6174116

>>6174093
>basic story
Story in video games is like story in porn etc.
>varied enemies
Maybe they had varied models but the actual enemy design gameplay wise wasn't all that varied.
>the classic roster of weapons
And they all suck so you end up using the katana for 90% of the game.
>a lot of movement options
??
>many and interesting powers
Only 4 powers, one is just healing and the other is armor, which leaves two "interesting" powers.
>largely bug-free, largely well performing
That's the baseline expectation for any video game.
>has a demo
Come on now.

>> No.6174117

>>6174036
Will they make nice things?
I would prefer more Quake things than Build2.

>> No.6174127

>>6174116
>And they all suck so you end up using the katana for 90% of the game.
The thing is there's nothing wrong with that. Cause it's not just a katana, it's got a bunch of different types of attacks and defensive abilities. Its not authentic to the original Shadow Warrior but it's still quite fun sword and sorcery shit.
>>6174093
>I'd much take it over NuDoom and NuDoom: Eternal. Now that I think of it, it's pretty fucking good.
Eh, I wouldnt go that far. Both games (SW2013 & D4) had issues with the arena gameplay getting stale towards the end. But SW2013 was way worse in this regard because the arenas stayed pretty much flat for the entire game. The last hour (excluding the bosses) is just rehashing the same fights over & over again.
Also, speaking of which, the boss fights in SW2013 are downright HORRIBLE. Some of the most drawn-out and least-fun bosses I've ever fought in FPS.

>> No.6174145

>>6174127
>it's got a bunch of different types of attacks and defensive abilities
I think we must've played a different game you and I.

>> No.6174160

>>6174116
>Story in video games is like story in porn etc.
Yes, that was my point. It's there, it's fun and doesn't impose too much.
>Maybe they had varied models but the actual enemy design gameplay wise wasn't all that varied.
It doesn't go above and beyond with figuring out new mechanics, yes, but I need remind you that other classic games don't either. It has 2-3 types of human enemies with different weapons, 2-3 types of trolls, 4-6 types of demons, 2-3 types of skeletons and a demon rabbit. Half-life doesn't have rolling suicide bombers, for example.
>And they all suck so you end up using the katana for 90% of the game.
Nonsense. I really like using the upgraded shotgun's quad-shot. It just dismembers them on sight. Also how else would I deal with a cluster of flying enemies than with the crossbow and explosive arrows? Well, I could also go with the dual PDWs. I would also like to add that the katana has additional key-combo activated hits, like Forward+Forward+Mouse1 which is the sword thrust, or the circle slash, or whatever the fuck other moves there were.
>??
Sprint and dash. Not revolutionary, but if you actually see how it was received in NuDoom: Eternal, makes it such.
>Only 4 powers, one is just healing and the other is armor, which leaves two "interesting" powers.
2 basic and 2 interesting, how many more do you really need?
>That's the baseline expectation for any video game.
>Come on now.
And yet, quite novel, even in 2013.

Also I should mention that there are environmental hazards like electricity and exploding everything. Much more so than any other shooter I can think of right now.
>>6174127
>Both games (SW2013 & D4) had issues with the arena gameplay getting stale towards the end.
True. I have a special dislike of nudoom and the onions surrounding it, so it might be my bias.
>>6174145
Did you even find the katana combos?

>> No.6174168

Is there a mappack for High noon drifter?

>> No.6174178

>>6174168
> is there a mappack for X gameplay mod?
9 999 times out of 10 000, no

>> No.6174186

>>6174160
>trolls, demons, skeletons
Yeah that's just visual.
>Nonsense.
Play on the hardest difficulty.
> if you actually see how it was received in NuDoom: Eternal, makes it such.
Is that really the standard we're holding FPS to now?
>2 basic and 2 interesting, how many more do you really need?
4 is not many, specially when two of them are just pickup replacements. The other two are not that interesting either I'd say.
>And yet, quite novel, even in 2013.
It doesn't matter how novel you think it is, a game isn't any less bad because it has a demo.
>Also I should mention that there are environmental hazards like electricity and exploding everything. Much more so than any other shooter I can think of right now.
It's a mechanic (or level design philosophy, rather) cribbed directly from Hard Reset, the developer's previous game. Except here they are much more critical because most weapons do such shit damage otherwise that it's a waste of time to even use them for anything else than triggering exploding vending machines.
>Did you even find the katana combos?
Well you have to use the sword poke to even advance past the first level. There's three moves and the circle slash is useless since it takes too long and does too little damage for what it is, so a grand total of two moves.

>> No.6174191

>>6174178
There's a patch that makes it work with Strange Aeons, but I don't know how to apply it. It's just another pk3 file. If I drag HND, SA, and the patch pk3s altogether, it's the same as if I was just using HND and SA.

>> No.6174203

>>6174186
>Yeah that's just visual.
Simply not true. The demons vary in size and type.
>big, melee, pinkie-like charging demon
>flying, ranged birdman
>warping around white haired ninja
>shielded troll
You refusing to acknowledge this and calling these visual differences i.e. re-skins really invalidates your argument.
>Play on the hardest difficulty.
No.
>4 is not many, specially when two of them are just pickup replacements.
They're additions, not replacements.
>for anything else than triggering exploding vending machines.
Some demons and humans block the katana. Try the shotgun here. Also I'm very well aware of Hard Reset. It's even more basic than SW, would you also say it's a bad game?
>a game isn't any less bad because it has a demo.
That part of the argument was about presentation and value. It is more valuable if it has a demo, so you don't waste your money (based on your taste).
>so a grand total of two moves.
Seems enough. Any game is more than the sum of its parts.

>> No.6174215

>>6174191
Also I should clarify cuz this makes it sound like the whole thing isn't working. It works almost flawlessly, the only issue is that certain weapons from SA aren't replaced by the weapons from HND, most notably being the AK47 with the greaser SMG.

>> No.6174224

>>6173758
It's pretty good. It's definitely not on the same level as some of the more ambitious mapsets you find for Doom 2, but I don't think that was what Romero was going for to begin with, so I don't think of that as a legitimate flaw of the wad itself, and more just a symptom of the fact that it's for Doom 1.

>> No.6174229

>>6174191
>>6174224
I HAVE A QUESTION

>> No.6174238

>>6174203
>>Play on the hardest difficulty.
>No.
That's all you really had to say.

>> No.6174239
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6174239

what the fuck do I do

>> No.6174241

>>6174239
use ZDL or some other launcher
put strange aeons first
put HND second
put the compat patch third

>> No.6174261

>>6174238
What a cop out lmao. Go to your life partner and brag about how good you are at children's I/O software.

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>>6174241
Thank you, that made it work. I had no idea ZDL was a thing. Everything I googled about patches and loaders just gave me shitty threads on steam about doing what I've already been trying.

Please accept this picture which I find to be humorous, but also an accurate representation of me muddling with Doom.

>> No.6174321

>>6174036
>Build Engine 2

wat.

>> No.6174326

>>6172343
What game is that?

>> No.6174335
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6174335

A second thanks from me, because I'm really enjoying the mix of HND and SA and I probably never would've figured it out without your help.

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>>6174335
meant for >>6174241 fuck

>> No.6174341
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6174341

Are there any console FPS you enjoyed?
I think the only one I found fun was Halo 1-3, mainly because I love the atmosphere and enemies of the games (the gameplay isn't the best thing ever).

>> No.6174352

>>6174341
It kinda sucked even for it's time, but Darkwatch is a guilty pleasure of mine

>> No.6174354

>>6174341
When it came out I had a blast with CoD4 and MW2, mostly for the multiplayer, though I enjoyed the campaigns too. The 'arcade mode' for CoD4 was also fun, all guns had double ammo, I think perks were power ups, and I'm pretty sure you had extra health.

>> No.6174358

Anyone make an iso of the MARS 3D english release yet?

>> No.6174360

>>6174358
wut is MARS, question mark

>> No.6174361

>>6174341
Goldeneye 007 and Perfect Dark for retro examples
Not-retro: TimeSplitters series, 007 Nightfire, Bungie era Halo series, Resistance 1

>> No.6174362

>>6174360
A doom clone released in some chinko country, recently got an english release read the op.

>> No.6174363

did you know that despite being 13% of all monsters in doom II, chaingunners make up on average 50% of all damage done to the player?

>> No.6174380

>>6174363
>only 50

>> No.6174402
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What are some mods that have more in terms of programming/coding than design/maps/sprite changes?
Does this question make sense?
I would like to see some technology rather than artistic things.

I guess the closest thing is to see the news about sourceports like GZDoom which push the original tech.

>> No.6174407

>>6174402
Here's one
https://github.com/MatthewTheGlutton/HideousDestructor

>> No.6174413

You know what Quake modding needs to really take off? A Cacoward equivalent.

>> No.6174421

>>6174402
ask the Doomshock guy

>> No.6174515
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What a piece of shit this was. Mancubus and Pinky galore.

>> No.6174542

>suddenly using the bfg refills my energy ammo and I have no idea why
aaaaaaa

>> No.6174545

>>6174341
Exhumed and Alien trilogy before halo were okay.

>> No.6174550

>>6174036
nonexistant

>> No.6174553

>>6174109
q2xp

>> No.6174597

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRLxiITuw3k

>> No.6174614

>>6174413
They tried.
https://www.quakeawards.com/2017-awards-archive/2018-award-winners/

>> No.6174630

>>6174614
>did it once
>everything dumped on a single long ass page
Not a whole lot of trying in there.

>> No.6174648

>>6174270
Not that it's much help now, but there's also a jank way do it with shortcut command lines. Send a GZDoom.exe shortcut somewhere, open Properties on it, and at the end in the Target line, add

-file StrangeAeons.pk3 HighNoonDrifter.pk3 SADrifterPatch.pk3

>> No.6174651

>>6174648
I renamed my .pk3s, but you get the gist.

>> No.6174696 [DELETED] 

Hey /VR/, teach my millennial ass how to play Doom properly? https://twitch.tv/nursecompa21

>> No.6174736

>>6174341
Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Turok 1 & 2(& 3) and Duke 64, I didn't play Doom 64 because I thought it was just a port of Doom, played a lot more on PS2/GCN/Xbox but those aren't /vr/ yet.

>> No.6174741

Legend of the Seven Paladins port is in the works
https://youtu.be/VDrmTLW6e30

>> No.6174781

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT4mZUwuoXQ
So the GZDoom devs are making GZBuild, more source ports are always a good thing.

>> No.6174832

>>6174781
I welcome the idea of cool gameplay mods for Blood

>> No.6174839

>>6174832
>blood but the hitscanners shoot projectiles like DN3D
I'd play it

>> No.6174841
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>>6174839
Anon, the hitscanners in Duke3D DO shoot hitscans

>> No.6174842

>>6174781
Looks great but the weapon sprites feel kinda off with their inconsistent positioning. The flare gun was too close to the center while duke's rocket launcher seemed too far to the right.

>> No.6174852

>>6174341
i always loved couch co-op in halo, gears, army of TWO, L4D2 and the later resident evil games.

it really bums me out that modern games have been trying to phase it out.

>> No.6174853

>>6174841
Oh shut up fag you knew I meant the cat alien beam things. Point is you could take the most cancer part of Blood and tone it down a bit. Maybe re-tune the weapons slightly too. I'd very much enjoy a rebalanced Blood.

>> No.6174859

>>6174832
>>6174842
It's really early apparently but I think it has promise.

>> No.6174863

>>6174853
Quit being a weenie. Blood's tough but it's managable, they give you the tools to deal with the cultists, you have the Tommygun for stunlocking, portable medkits, life essences, seeds, and TNT out the wazoo.

Though given how you replied to me, I'm gonna assume you got butt clobbered and refused to learn from your mistakes and adapt.

>> No.6174868

>>6174863
>Quit being a weenie
I've beaten it at least a dozen times nerd, that doesn't mean the hitscanners aren't total cancer. The game would benefit from them not being able to cleave your health bar with insane reaction time and nearly unlimited range.
>I'm gonna assume you got butt clobbered and refused to learn from your mistakes and adapt
Ah yes, the classic "If you think something in my favorite game is badly designed you must be bad at it" argument.

>> No.6174873

>>6174868
It's not even my favorite game. I like Shadow Warrior the best. Hitscanners are valuable in FPS games when mixed with other enemies. I'll agree that Blood is like 90% hitscanner and with 5% projectile monsters and the rest are some variant of a melee bad guy or some little creepy crawly, but I'm not about to abolish hitscanners entirely.

>> No.6174880

blood has like 40% projectile because basically all its bosses or minibosses are projectile based and it has next to no variety

>> No.6174917

>>6174853
>>6174868
friendly reminder that hitscanners are the ultimate scrub filter.

everyone who complains about it probably thinks cover is for pussies and just rush out into firefights only to die less than 5 minutes later complaining about artificial difficulty.

>> No.6174920

>>6174917
With that said, I don't know how you feel about it but the trend of newer shooters having nothing -but- hitscan sucks. Hitscanners are great because they're mixed in with a bunch of other enemies too.

>> No.6174936

>>6174341
Powerslave Saturn is a classic. Better on PC with the Powerslave EX port though.
Disruptor for the PS1 was alright.
And of course there's the N64 FPS's - Doom 64, Turok series, Goldeneye, Perfect Dark.

>> No.6174938

>>6174917
>>6174920
Variety is the best, it's why the Doom 2 lineup of enemies is perfection.

>> No.6174942

>>6174841
hitscanners in blood & duke function basically the same way. they aim at a spot and shoot at it. unlike in doom where hitscanners hit you as long as you're in their FOV so there's no possible way to avoid damage. the difference is that blood cultists have very fast reaction time and are often placed in corner ambushes. but if you're far away they actually have a hard time hitting you, like in duke.

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>>6173413
Sandy was right.

>> No.6174954

>>6174942
>as long as you're in their FOV so there's no possible way to avoid damage
Hitscanners (aside from Archie) have spread, so at longer distances they will not necessarily be so good at hitting you.

Chaingunners keep pouring, so they'll start hitting you just by volume.

>> No.6174961

>>6174942
>>6174954
I swear when you're at low HP Zombiemen become fucking crackshots because I can't tell you how many times I've died from a stray shot to my buttcheek when I was at like 5% HP and a Zombieman gets lucky from some insane long distance

>> No.6174993

You know what i hate about playing old games online? Whatever's left of the community has been playing the game for a while, and in games like Street Fighter or Quake you just get bodied over and over
the only way to enjoy them is to get some other friend whos a casual player just like you
i was autistic enough to lose like 80 matches in a row in fightcade on Street Fighter 3 just because i liked the game but you just dont learn if you are getting compeltelly destroyed.

>> No.6175025

I was just now playing Doom online and I completely stomped everyone to the point a guy tried to vote kick me.
Most of these people have been playing for years and still suck.
Same for Quake, I got into that online very late, but most of them were still worse than me very fast.

>> No.6175034

might be my monster randomizer mod loving ass speaking, but i worry if doom eternal has too many similar enemies when the focus on making doomguy op and shit like "deactivate this enemy's main attack by shooting this part" along with some other shit can technically justify a lot of potential abilities and attacks for monsters to have

>> No.6175061

>Gmota
>Spawn in as basedguy
>Have to hope the map pack has a chainsaw to actually use his unique fun melee
Only part of the character I don't like

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>>6175061
I could maybe do a CVAR thing in the next update that gives all characters their chainsaw tier upgrade.
I still want to do a "pistol" start CVAR but I still can't figure out a fucking name for it.

>> No.6175069

>>6175067
what even are the chainsaws for the other two? i dont play those lol

>> No.6175071

>>6175069
Blaz gets a 5th hit to his basic sword combo that multi-strikes like how the sword worked in the really ancient versions, and Kustam gets a steam venter when overheated that pains and pushes monsters back.

>> No.6175072

>>6175071
>Kustam gets a steam venter when overheated that pains and pushes monsters back.
neat

>> No.6175118

>>6170810
32 level megawad Czechbox released.
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/czechbox

>> No.6175129

>>6174341
I have never played a console FPS but what I played of Halo on PC was alright.

>> No.6175153

>>6174341
I have fond memories of Medal of Honor on PSX.

>> No.6175158

>>6174341
It was Halo for me. The gameplay could've been amazing if its legendary difficulties were more balanced. Otherwise the multiplayer is great.
Even enjoyed Halo 5 multiplayer a bit due to it being the closest Halo has got to an arena fps I still play Halo 1 & 2 occasionally for its mods.

>> No.6175219

>>6171771
Vary the light levels?

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>> No.6175264
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>>6172557
System 7.6.1 on PowerPC.

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>>6175245

>> No.6175309

>>6174341
Halo of course, and it's not necessarily a console FPS but Titanfall/Titanfall 2 are a modern FPS that I feel capture the spirit of old school FPS really well, with ludicrous speed and lots of verticality. They are a ton of fun.

>> No.6175312

>>6173758
I just beat it for the first time not even an hour ago; it's fucking amazing. Easily the best official content alongside KDitD and Doom 64.

>> No.6175317

>>6175309
>>6174341

Except you could say that after Crysis, almost every fps is a console fps. Even Arkane stuff for example.

>> No.6175431

>>6175264
ECWolf is supposed to support Macwolf one day, just like Blake Stone and ROTT,,, one day.

>> No.6175452

For me, it's shane's music pack
http://www.thewaitingroom.org/music/game/doom/

>> No.6175454

Is there a comparison chart somewhere of the different open-source "2.5D" engines (e.g. Aleph One, EDuke32, [G]ZDoom, listing all the features and limits that vary between them? I'm curious what games could theoretically be ported to what other engines; what could be retained and what would have to be changed.

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How come Demonsteele 0.9 doesn't come with a reference guide for Shihong? I had to google it.

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Despair but also D'sparil

>> No.6175501
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>>6175479

>> No.6175535

>>6170809
DoomRL Arsenal's ZDoom page says it's not meant for GZDoom, but for a specific version of ZDoom, but that was years ago. Safe to use ZDL and GZDoom with it?

>> No.6175540

>>6175535
I've been using it with the newest version of GZ, and it works completely fine.

>> No.6175558

>>6175540
Nice. Thanks. Last thing, why is Commando unselectable at the character menu?

>> No.6175570

>>6175558
I ain't made him yet, he's just a basic mockup right now.

also I released a new mod and updated legendoom

>> No.6175581

>>6174113
>ammo count

>> No.6175583

>>6175570
Oh you're the dude? Nice. I was just thinking the other day how much I wanted a rogueish version of Doom; something to fire up and get randomized monsters and weapons and here it fucking is. Cheers. Legendoom looks like it'll fit in nicely. Good fucking shit man.

>> No.6175587

>>6174113
>>6175581
Nice.

>> No.6175607

>>6175570
Does Legendoomlite not have the weapon addon? I've killed several legendary sergeants and they each dropped a normal weapon. Using default Legendoom sorta breaks DoomRLA

>> No.6175614

>>6175607
What do you mean, weapon addon? There aren't any addons to LDL.
They'll just drop DRLA stuff, like armors and what not.

>> No.6175618

>>6175614
Ah okay. I was asking why they weren't dropping legendary weapons, but there it is:
>They'll just drop DRLA stuff, like armors and what not.

>> No.6175620

>>6175431
ECWolf Development is slow as shit. Wolf modding will get really good some day soon since people are doing full rotation sprites based on the Mac look. https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=48769 Good men

>> No.6175627 [DELETED] 

What mods would you use for an edgelord playthrough of Skyrim?
I usually play my characters super nice, fancy a change.
I'm thinking
Dark, voodoo, necro spell mods and shit with similar flavor
Maybe be a vamp but probably not use a mod because every vamp mod looks absurdly broken
Don't think perks really matter
Some super evil follower to remind me to be evil. Not sure on this one. I generally do not use followers.

>> No.6175631

>>6175618
oh, yeah, legendary weapons are part of the full LegenDoom mod, LDL just drops random goodies from either vanilla doom or a few compatible mods that have their own stuff defined.

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>>6175631
If you're still there, I bound downarrow for legendweapon info, but with the weapon equipped I just got "Nothing", and I can't seem to navigate to these weapons in this menu.

>> No.6175681

>>6175672
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
you've loaded two weapon mods at the same time. They are not designed for it in any way.
If you want both, use DRLA and LegenDoomLite, not full LegenDoom.

Don't load two weapon mods at once.

>> No.6175693

>>6175681
Fug but lite doesn't drop legendary weapons. Oh well.

>> No.6175793

>>6175309
Titanfall 2 played on console is like playing quake on console, it's night and goddamn day.

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>>6174270
Check out Rocket Launcher as well, I prefer it.

>> No.6175814

Is a projectile's damage determined when it's fired, or when it hits?

>> No.6175819

>>6175814
Depends on the DamageFunction. What are you trying to do?

>> No.6175821

>>6175819
I'm just curious about Revenant fireballs.

>> No.6175823

>>6175821
For those it's probably on hit, since the damage is the result of the projectile hitting the player.

>> No.6175831

>>6175814
damage is calculated on hit

>> No.6175871

>>6174270
>>6175808
I'll shill for super shotgun launcher since that's the one I've been using recently and it seems alright.

>> No.6175919

>>6175465
Unfinished character

>> No.6175923

DOOM EXP is fucking awesome that i felt like i just had a metal orgasm

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>>6170809
They should totally just make a new Duke game but he's a grandpa with a beer belly. Model him after Hugh Hefner where he's on a mission to rescue all the babes and his mansion is the hub. Ironic boomer game, that's how you sell this icon to the new generation.

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dear god

>> No.6175946

>>6175934
Duke 3d was lightning in a bottle. No one will ever recapture it no matter how many times people try. Retire duke, he's past finished.

>> No.6175953

is brutal doom a good mod

>> No.6175959

>>6175953
Eh, it's alright, balance is fucked, dev is a jerk, fanbase sucks.

>> No.6175960

>>6175953
ya only autists will say otherwise

>> No.6175962

>>6175959
>>6175960
from experience i didn't like it at all

>> No.6175963

>>6175953
better than average but its been around for years early brutal was fine its just iffy . Theres fun to be had to that might be a yes depending on your stance

>> No.6175968

>>6174341
Turok 1 and 2 are fucking amazing. Doom 64 of course. The TimeSplitters trilogy are also cool. Some others as well, but those are the big ones.

>> No.6175975

>>6175963
i played it and it was annoying as fuck to kill a room full of enemies screaming at the same time your killing them

>> No.6175981

>>6175975
or it could be my autism i hate loud noises

>> No.6175989

>>6175953
It's fine but it got old, I do like the gore effects but the guns are eh.

>> No.6175994

>>6175989
the guns are generic

>> No.6175995

>>6175953
Made me fire up doom mods again originally.

>dev is jerk

Separate art form the artist.

>>6175946
I think you could make a decent build engine game these days with someone creative using a more solid base.

Maybe a parody of sci fi and post matrix type era movies with a John Wick type character.
Also take it serious but remain aware of the parody like max payne it could work.
Make the character Duke son. You could switch mid game to an old chad duke.

I dont know just ranting.

>> No.6176000

>>6170809
Gold gets old but it's still gold, baby.

>> No.6176001

>>6175995
>Separate art form the artist.
Obviously. But the other issues still stand out, and the mod was better a few years ago before it got overly bloated.

>> No.6176003

>>6175953
It's fun but it destroys any semblance of balance, especially when the "revamped" A.I. is turned on
Best options for me are:
>vanilla monsters
>no reloading at all
>UV without the damage reduction from old BD
>4:3 HUD even when playing in 16:9

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Is there any way to disable the audio filtering/interpolation in PrBoom Plus?
This shit always drives me up the wall in ports just as much as texture filtering in GL ports.
Sounds like I'm playing with cotton in my ears.

>> No.6176006

>>6176001
Saw someone say BD V.17 was the best one, does that still run or is there a bunch of fucky pecularities which modern GzDoom doesn't agree with?

>> No.6176012

>>6175919
She is? She feels pretty feature complete to me.

>> No.6176013

>>6175953
Last time I gave it a proper go it was alright but there's just so much feature creep that I just don't bother.

>> No.6176014

>>6176003
Forgot to mention
>no retarded Rocket Launcher backfire

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>>6176006
I'm not sure, I haven't played BD in a long, long time, and I know the mod is held together with duct tape and chewing gum, so it's hard to say if those older versions will play nice with newer versions of GZdoom.

>> No.6176018

>>6175994
Yeah that's a good way to describe them.

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>> No.6176037

>>6175941
what wad

>> No.6176067

I have come here to:
-Kill everyone now
-Condone first degree murder
-Advocate cannibalism
-Eat shit
...and I'm all out of shit!

>> No.6176068

>>6173413
objectively the best demon

>> No.6176084

>>6176067
I understood that.

>> No.6176104

>>6176084
She should have been in Ion Fury instead of Bombshell.

>> No.6176138

>>6176037
nova 3.

>> No.6176156

>>6175034
>monster randomizer
Yeah, I'm really into Colourful Hell right now. It just makes the game more interesting when the next room might contain a supercharged version of a regular enemy. The first time I saw an orange Revenant just merrily waltz through the wall towards me I pretty much shat myself.
I find its best to play with the slightly more powerful weapon mods with it though, I'm playing through Momento Mori using Combined Arms and it's so much fun. Turns out Nashgore's coloured blood addon also makes the different monster levels bleed their colour too, which is a neat touch.

>> No.6176162

>>6174076
I have the same problem with Eduke and other Eduke based ports. its even in ion furry.

>> No.6176163

>>6174341
Timesplitters 2 was incredible, and I enjoyed th original Medal of Honour games on the first playstation. I especially loved Resistance's secret levels where you had to fight an army of dogs who had learned to walk upright and use guns. It was so silly.

>> No.6176174

since the Half-Life engine is basically Quake(World)+, instead of wasting my time trying to make a Quake TC, I'm just gonna mod Half-Life to play like a boomer shooter and then base my TC on that.

>> No.6176179

>>6176174
I thought it was closer to Quake 2's engine.

>> No.6176183

>>6176179
Nope, based off QuakeWorld, which is just Quake with multiplayer.

>> No.6176186

>>6176174
That's probably way easier to work with.

>>6176179
Valve licensed the Quake engine, then built on it a LOT.

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>>6176174
>hl1 with proper bhop, possibly different enemy placement and better damage values

>> No.6176202

>>6176198
It's gonna be the best throwback retro boomer shooter the world has ever seen.
Then I'll port it over to the Xash3D engine and make millions.

>> No.6176204

>>6176198
A game which took the best aspects of Half-Life and Quake and blended them could probably be incredibly fun.

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>>6174402
DoomRPG has a bunch of features, and Total Chaos is magic.
And as another anon said, Hideous Destructor is kino

>> No.6176227

>>6176204
What would you say the best aspects of them both are?
Because I would think combining them would just feel jagged, as you switch from Half-Life segments to Quake segments.

>> No.6176231

>>6176156
That's a really super combo. I was working with legendoom + Colorful Hell, that's a nice one if you're interested.

>> No.6176381

>>6173040
>Underworld Ascendant
>that one edgy eceleb who thinks himself an apostle of good taste, shilling about it incesently
>it comes out and he does a live first playthrough of it
>you can see his enthusiasm waning as he goes through it until he shuts the game down 3 hours later, never to mention it ever again

>> No.6176397

>>6172343
>>6174326
>no updates or posts for about a year
it's dead now, Jim.

>> No.6176414

>>6176006
>>6176001
I'd say the best one was v.19, where he added zombiez and imps flying backwards from shotgun shots and then slumping against the wall. Always liked that effect,

>> No.6176487

>>6176414
I like using bd_monstersonly with other wads just for the imps climbing on walls and the baron charges, they go great with deadmarine or final doomer.

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trying typist atm and it works with almost every gameplay mod I have mixed with it.

>> No.6176505

>>6176496
does it work with chex quest?

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>>6176505

>> No.6176512

>>6176510
Cool. Kid friendly.

>> No.6176528 [DELETED] 

Is there a way to change all enemy hitscan into projectiles via mod-agnostic script that would wok?

>> No.6176530

Is there a way to change all enemy hitscan into projectiles via mod-agnostic script that would work with any monster mod?

>> No.6176535

>>6176512
nigga I was playing Doom when I was 6.

>> No.6176549

>>6176535
>what did he mean by this?

>> No.6176570

>>6176535
So I guess for you that was a about a year ago?

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how do I make the quad damage glow in the dark with trenchbroom?

>> No.6176598

>Duke World Tour doesn't even include expansions

Hahahaha badass

>> No.6176606

>>6176598
I bought that piece of shit.
The worst thing about it has to be the sound. They fucked up badly.

>> No.6176613

>>6176591
oh, I only have to place a light and a trigger, it was easier than I thought

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>>6176613
oh, I don't even need a trigger

>> No.6176630

how come gzdoom doesnt have a method to have the full statusbar hud, but just cut out the "border" part when the scale is lower like in quake and hexen 2 and such

>> No.6176665

>>6176630
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=63863

>> No.6176745

>>6176496
>Typing of the Dead for Doom
Brilliant! No idea why no one thought of this before.

>> No.6176752

will people still be playing doom in the year 2100?

>> No.6176765
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6176765

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>> No.6176774

>>6176752
Doom has had a dedicated fanbase for a quarter of a century so far, where newer games have mostly been forgotten in many cases.
So yeah, I think they might be. It'll obviously have different sourceports by then, maybe even be some kind of VR experience with the same graphics, but I bet people will still be playing it.

>> No.6176778

>>6176774
but will space pirate have updated by then

>> No.6176781

>>6176774
>Doom has had a dedicated fanbase for a quarter of a century so far

ya but you guys are going to be dying soon

>> No.6176805

I'm only here to encourage retro fps lewd

>> No.6176814

>>6176805
you'd have to summon almods
I think she goes by cruelpastry these days

>> No.6176820

>>6176814
I don't know who that is, but i know i see some talented spriters here so, i gotta try to lure em to the lewd side

>> No.6176827

I mainly mean for doom, i like demons

>> No.6176842

>>6176752
Pretty sure there will always be an interest in the roots of gaming as a whole, so all of the milestone games will have it's fanbases

>>6176781
>ya but you guys are going to be dying soon
Luckily you won't be too far off yourself

>> No.6176847
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6176847

What are some non-retro shooters that deserve TLC from retro shooters?
Pic related

>> No.6176848

>>6176842
lol no once the last boomer dies millennials will *coincidentally* discover immortality that very day

>> No.6176850

>>6176752
It depends of whether someone comes up with a better FPS by then. Given the trends of the gaming industry these past decades, we'll probably still be playing Doom in the year 2100.
>>6176848
Most Doom fans are millennials.

>> No.6176851

>Finally cave and look at Gman's Hexen review
>Can't even get 3 minutes in with all the dumb buzzwords he spouts
I regret everything. I was warned and I didn't listen

>> No.6176852
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>>6176850
>t. 45 year old millennial

you can identify as whatever you want but your bone structure and telomeres still say otherwise

>> No.6176856

>>6176852
A 45 year old is gen x, not a boomer. Boomers are people currently in their 50s at the youngest.

>> No.6176858

>>6176856
you're trying awfully hard to convince yourself you're not a boomer, grandpa

it won't make your hair grow back

>> No.6176868

>>6176858
Alopecia areata can start as early as your late teens

>> No.6176871

>>6176868
should've taken your puberty blockers

>> No.6176874

>>6176871
Alopecia areata is an autoimmune reaction

>> No.6176876
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>>6176874
>i-it's not male pattern baldness!
>it's an immune reaction!
>I'm not old!
>it'll grow back!

>> No.6176878

>>6176876
no that's androgenetic alopecia

>> No.6176882

What the fuck are you people even talking about

>> No.6176886

>>6176882
hair loss and it's causes

>> No.6176890

>>6176886
Is hair loss an fps?

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>>6176890
>He hasn't played an fps with a dermatologist protagonist

>> No.6177000

>>6176893
>"To win the game you must comb the hair of me, John Romero!"

>> No.6177008

>>6176882
I was honestly talking about how female doom enemies get my dick going

>> No.6177010
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>gzdoom
>beautiful doom
>Ultimate doom
>default settings
>room with many demons
>dead bodies, Gibs, blood decals
>visible FPS drop stutter

What do? There are so many graphic options, don't know where to start to improve performance.
The specs of the PC are not an issue. (Or is it?)

>> No.6177020

>>6177010
Each of those gibs and blood drops are an actor
GZDoom does not care much about anything except active actor count.
Cut down those gibs and blood.

>> No.6177035

>tfw no baldness in your entire family
>tfw hate having hair
>tfw hate washing it
>tfw hate cutting it even more

>> No.6177037

>>6177035
At the very you're popular with the imp ladies, you have something they don't

>> No.6177042

>>6177008
The only female dooms worth it is DoomGal
For hand holding and wholesome loving.

>> No.6177051

>>6177042
Miss me with that gay shit
horny demons from hell are where it's at

>> No.6177067

>>6177051
Whatever, nerd. Space marine girls will always be better.

>> No.6177069

>>6177067
Your space marine gal will die in your lifetime
your demon gal won't

>> No.6177182

>>6177035
>tfw won't get resurrected as a shotgun zombie

>> No.6177187

>>6177000
That'd be doable with young romero. Modern romero is an untoppleable mountain.

>> No.6177189

>>6177042
>tfw no Crash gf to deathmatch with

>> No.6177265

>>6171618
Overrated: Eveternity

Underrated: Equinox

>> No.6177272

>>6176847
its super buggy jank with couple of interesting ideas that go nowhere
I swear its buggier than modern bethesda game
for example on one level if you press a any switch that creates a bridge across the rails 3 times (since you'd have to raise the bridge again if you accidentally lowered it, making it 3 presses) the level becomes unwinnable since all switches on the whole level stop working.
it feels like a fanmade Painkiler mod (it's also on Painkiller engine)

>> No.6177284

>>6171295
Redneck Rampage has one of the worst maps in any FPS game (sewers) but it otherwise is a lot of fun. Especially once you figure out the enemies weaknesses and quirks.

>> No.6177296

>>6173758
It's amazing. KDITD, Sigil and NRFTL are the only official mapsets worth playing more than once.

>> No.6177305

>>6177035
Just buzz it.

>> No.6177317

>>6176381
I already disliked his obvious narcissism. Seeing him play that mess was really nice iam sorry to admit.

>> No.6177320

>>6177265
>that one lab level where you go up and get instantly shot by a cyberdemon
I hate it because of that and me being unable to get past it on fast monsters. Or UVmax fast monsters rather. Fuck that passage.
But all in all you're damn right.

>> No.6177326

What are some good DOOM campaign mods?

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>>6176820
if you see this art style its certainly her

>> No.6177357

>>6177035
if you are black congratulations, you are now allowed to carry a minigun

>> No.6177376

>>6176535
Me too homie.

>> No.6177395

I’ve played Doom for years now and I almost feel bad for killing the demons. They’re almost friends to me at this point.

>> No.6177406

https://twitter.com/newsyc250/status/1224306432721530881

>> No.6177429

I don't actually like shooting things. I just wanna run around really fast and do some first-person platforming.

>> No.6177438

>>6177429
Ever heard of Defrag?

>> No.6177449

>>6177395
In a weird way I also feel a kind of fondness towards them too, to the point where if new enemies show up in wads I see them like Poochy in that Simpsons episode.

>> No.6177456

Just a general question about mapping but how are custom monsters added to a map?

>> No.6177459

>>6177438
Not until just now, but I'm extremely interested. This shit's wild.

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>> No.6177505

>>6177482
Only good thing to come out of that game, what a waste of an hour that was.

>> No.6177507

>>6177505
That mole hhnnnggg


Is the expansion wages of sin worth it? Only played the first game.

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>>6177482
Oh look the game that killed Ritual, cosplay babes from the ads were hot though.

>> No.6177534

>>6177010
Are you playing with bilinear filters? Turn those off.

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6177545

Rampancy is cool. It's like Hard Reset but the robots are actually fun to fight.
Although Yholl has to do something with those Archviles, they are pathetic lol.

>> No.6177562

>>6177517
Did it really? Because the end product feels like a cheap aborted source engine mod.

>> No.6177604

>>6177562
Yep, well that a string of cancelled projects after.
>cheap aborted source engine mod.
A reason for that might be that Valve was not very helpful when it came to early source games but it's mostly because episodic game was a terrible fucking idea.

>> No.6177612

>>6174203
You're trying super hard to upsell such a basic set of mechanics for a game it's honestly kinda funny. I guess it really does stem from you not taking well to people being excited for an upcoming game for whatever stupid reason you may think you have.

>> No.6177617

>>6177406
>linking to a tweet with no content except further links to a blog post and an aggregator site
For what purpose?

>> No.6177656

>>6177429
I still remember when it seemed like games and levels were universally trashed when they tried to combine platforming with first-person. I wonder whether there's some neurological difference between people who do and don't hold a mental "map" of the floor below their avatar; or if it's just the age-old problem that critics suck at games, and players used to blindly follow their lead.

>> No.6177663

>>6177604
>episodic game was a terrible fucking idea
Why is that, again? Just because game studios all suck at project management and controlling feature creep?

>> No.6177692

>>6177663
Pretty much yeah.

>> No.6177723

>>6177663
Pretty much, also the fact that people are less likely to buy four cheaper episodes then one full price game.

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>>6175452
Please tell me someone has actually turned this into a music pack.
This is so much better than Hulshult's album of turning literally every song into a Slayer solo no matter what vibe the original had.

>> No.6177798

>>6175919
I know Term's put out some pretty amazing stuff since, but goddamn I wish Shiong could get rebalanced and finished proper.

>> No.6177808

>>6175452
Based.

>> No.6177820

>>6177272
I can easily say I hardly had any bugs whatsoever.
>>6177354
Sorlag is not for lewd. vore and thicc are another manner

>> No.6177825

>>6177798
This. He's made some great stuff since, but Demonsteele will always be my favourite.

>> No.6177830

>>6177794
It really is. I know Hulshult made his pack with Brutal Doom in mind but this is so much better for vanilla.

>> No.6177834 [DELETED] 

first 10 minutes of doom eternal, including cutscenes. first level is a very hell-infested earth. arachnotron shows up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ6BnaE0Inc
1:45 get a nice look at doomguy's exposed face, pores & all

>> No.6177836

>>6177834
>>>/v/

>> No.6177845

>>6177836
>DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD
everyone knows that new doom isnt retro, but discussion is occasionally had here because most people interested in doom 1&2 are also interested in the rest of the series

>> No.6177846

>>6177834
i like the blocky cages with dead people in it
almost feels like a missing classic doom texture
and from a deleted nda breaking video, there were titans carrying the temples
i hope the tutorial rooms and short "door just opened" zelda cutscenes are at least optional

>> No.6177851

https://twitter.com/kinsie/status/1224310935348662273
In other news, the wall shield in the mod now blocks Hell Razer beams and some weapons now have bindable keys
https://github.com/TheKins/MetaDoom/blob/master/metadoom-dev/CHANGELOG.TXT

>> No.6177852

>>6177845
>/vr/
Go figure.

>> No.6177857

>>6177852
what? are you trying to say something? you should try actually making a statement instead of just gay little snarky posts like this

>> No.6177858

>>6177836
>>6177852
We've been discussing the game and its trailers pretty thoroughly. You may not like it, but it's just how things are going here.

>> No.6177860

>>6177857
Not him, but this is a retro game thread in a retro game board and people are talking about games being released in the year 2020 in it. The issue is quite obvious.

>> No.6177881

>>6177429
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PJzs4j0wso

>> No.6177891

>>6177845
I will be honest and say that while not shitting threads too much I got fed with /v/ ages ago and vr is so cozy.

I speak of other modern games in a roundabout way while trying to focus on doom here for example.

>> No.6177902

Reminder:
/v/ - Waifu Threads
/vg/ - Vidyagaem Graveyard
/vr/ - Actual vidyagaem discussion

>> No.6177906
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>>6177834
>That soundtrack
>Looks like you're given weapons and tools a lot sooner
>Fantastic art direction
Add skipable cutescenes, and mod support and we're golden. Feels amazing having all these great Doom games.

>> No.6177907

i just realized something:
icon of sin doesn't spawn any zombies
ever
all hitscanners that drop items are completely absent from the spawn list

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>>6177906

>> No.6177919

>>6177910
Oh. I'm blind. Now just for modding support!

>> No.6177927

>>6177919
it might take a long time but at least there will be eternal based content for og doom
speaking of which
https://twitter.com/CreeperOfSteam/status/1224141255635955714

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>>6177517
Now that you say source engine as a way of killing franchises.

>> No.6177939

>>6177656
That's still the case, platforming but you can't see where you're standing is not an improvement of the genre.

>> No.6177949

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/110962-dbp19-a-doomer-boards-christmas-carol/

>> No.6177951

>>6177939
It's first-person, not blind audio-only.

>> No.6177964

>>6177927
That looks pretty great. It's is cool we already have some Eternal stuff in mods like DoomXP. And I'm hoping those modding tools are powerful. I really want the modding community for these games to flourish.

>> No.6177965

>>6177951
You can't see the area immediately below you or anything not in front of you which rules out any sort of precision platforming. That's why all attempts at first person platforming are very simplistic by platformer standards and extremely lenient with distances.

>> No.6177969

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVFK2fMrxJ4

>> No.6177971

>>6177969
It's cool as fuck how much content this project is getting.

>> No.6177976

>>6177534
Trilinear. But I like to play with the sprites crisp without any blurry filtering.
I will try that. I get somehow better results with the bloods and gore turned down, bit could be better.

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>>6172382
>Green Sleleshit is still trying
Go back to resetera dude, we know that you suffer from mental diseases

>> No.6178040

>>6177429
Cyberrunner.

>> No.6178051

Extreme retard question but: did computer monitors circa the 90's have scanlines or beveled edges?

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>>6173413
Fixd

>> No.6178104

>>6178051
Scanlines are an inherent part of how a CRT screen works, CRT monitors weren't immune to this. If what you're asking is if monitors were a low resolution blurry mess with noticeable gaps between scanlines like what console games were on TV then no, computers on average ran at a significantly higher resolution and used the much higher quality VGA display connector, so image was as clean and sharp as could be.

>> No.6178108

Been playing Zandronum and GZDoom for ages, how compatible is Chocolate Doom for contemporary mappacks? It feels really nice playing through Thy Flesh Consumed, the only episode I never finished, with it.

>> No.6178113

>>6178108
In the text file / description for the wad, its compatibility is usually noted.

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>>6178113
Thanks. Btw this is fucking nuts.

>> No.6178134

>>6178098
>you press E
>instead of saying MMHH you say
>DOH

>> No.6178136

>>6178098
Based

>> No.6178241

>>6170809
DAMN HE'S OLD

>> No.6178247

>>6178241
It's time to kick ass and chew bubblegum, but I can't find my dentures

>> No.6178315

>>6178247
Imagine Duke trying to say all his one-liners but horribly slurred because he has no dentures.

>> No.6178327

>>6177794
It's pretty good, I got it from here:
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=24423

>> No.6178334

Duke more like Pathetuke

>> No.6178349

just got on prboom+ after being a gzdoom pleb. what are the optimal settings?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeGWh7lZAS4

>> No.6178417

>>6178416
Wow the sword looks great

>> No.6178427

>>6178349
the optimal setting is to download Crispy Doom instead because prboom+ is filled with nasty bugs.

>> No.6178445

NEW THREAD
>>6178437
>>6178437
>>6178437

>> No.6178448

>>6177354
eh, it's not spritework
>big reptile alien girl
s'okay, not lewd enough though or demons

>> No.6178509

>>6177965
What kind of platforming requires continuous monitoring of the floor below you? Even third-person platformers only show what's in front of the camera, which is usually pointed at your character's back.

>> No.6178657

>>6178509
nitpicking because he couldn't finish jumpmaze

>> No.6178743

>>6177860
I'm gonna side with the other guy and say the gay little snarky posts are indeed faggotshit. Doom modding gets the bulk of the discussion here but I still see posts about Dusk/Amid Evil/Wrath/Ion Fury, which are all games that have been or will be released within a year and are also arguably not retro.
Not to mention that the news post occasionally has nuDoom entries. Having one or two every once in a while isn't going to hurt anybody so the only logical conclusion is that, if you're upset, you must be a faggot. Perhaps you'd have a point if the thread just devolved into one big jerk off over nuDoom but I have yet to see that happen.

>> No.6179325

>>6175934
There's more chances that the John Cena movie happens that a new Duke game.

>> No.6179337

>>6175995
>remain aware of the parody
>understand it was a product of it's time
>demolition man but the politically correct nutjobs are presented as being right
I just want my straight male power fantasy. It's to much to ask?