/vr/ - Retro Games

No. Model 2 has an extra thingy to support the model 1 MD with no problems and it's much more reliable.

I use an X'Eye. All Sega CDs have surface mount electrolytic capacitors but the model 1 has more of them. If you have one that the tray is hanging up on, it probably just needs the belt replaced.

>>6161545
No, but collectors want their consoles to look "aesthetic." Function comes second to form.
Not gonna deny it though, I'm a sucker for looks too. If model 1s weren't so much more expensive, I would've gotten one and just repaired it whenever needed.
Speaking of which, god damn the Sega CD got expensive quick.

The model 1 is really a simple as fuck mechanism, troubleshooting it really isn't much more difficult than a model 2.

Does the model 2 genesis even work with the model 1 Sega CD? could have sworn it fits but not well.

>>6161576
zoom

>>6161576
Yes. It doesn't fit properly but it will work, why wouldn't it?

it's that stupid spiral cog that goes in sega CD model 1's. Plastic bits just come off and good luck replacing it.

>>6161580
there's an extension piece you can get to fit is snugly.

>>6161594
An extension piece? I think you've got that backwards, the model 2 Sega CD has an extension piece for the model 1 Genesis.

I have one that works really well thankfully. And like >>6161564 said it looks too damn good for me to use the model 2 set up instead despite the reliability. Not to mention the shorter form factor suits my unit layout better.
On top of that my model 2 Mega Drive isn't audio modded so it sounds like complete shite

>>6161638
>pal
Absolutely disgusting.

>>6161645
a-at least it's my favourite looking! I can't help being a bong sadly and both my Mega Drives are region modded. Hopefully having a JP Saturn makes up for it a little.

>>6161626
Oh, I misread. I thought he was talking about the model 1 gen hanging off the model 2 CD.

>>6161545
>Aesthetic
What more reason do you need? If it's a question of reliability, the answer will always be Everdrives and emulation over anything with a 30+ year old disc drive. There is no mechanical justification for owning a CD2.

>>6161545
The part that's known to break on the motorized tray assembly is typically the belt, which shouldn't be difficult to swap, and not difficult to find one which fits or which can be made to fit.
The top tray is more robust though, no belt to break.

>>6161564
I mean, the Genesis does look pretty good with the CD unit on it, can't deny that part.
I really like the aesthetics of the Genesis, Saturn, and Nomad, Sega were absolutely on point with product design.

>>6161638
Nice, makes me think of the old stereo stack my dad had when I was a little boy in the 90s (actually he still probably has it at his house, turntable and all). Also reminds me off the VCR we had then too.
I don't miss VHS as a format, but the machines could look pretty good.

>>6162267
Mine might have a fucked sensor. Really genus of Sega to make the switch that detects the tray is closed to be just two thin pieces of copper

As a kid, my brother had v1 and the CDX (which I later got as a hand-me-down). I had v2. We never had any problems with any of the three but I strongly prefered the CDX because it used only 1 outlet.

>>6161551
Never saw one in person. My brother had me convinced that it played TG16 HuCards, too. It didn't, right?

>>6161545
>Is there any reason
Of course. You can display it on your shelf under your Genesis, make youtube videos of it, wait for the price to go up so you can sell it on ebay, etc. There are no good games for the SCD so there's no reason to own any model if you just want to play games. Even if there were the tray problems would make it so troublesome it wouldn't be worth using. The wires aren't a problem. You do it once or you mod the console+SCD to do audio over the expansion port like the model 2.

>>6161545
Could probably get one cheaper and then just replace the optical drive with the up and coming ode that's coming down the road.
If you're a stickler for accuracy or hate the mega sd's incompatibility with the 32x then it would be easier to have a normal flashcart that can do 32x and normal genesis, and an ode modded gen 1 under your gen 1 genesis. That's my plan anyway.

>>6162981
>down the road

>>6162981
There's an ode that goes in a scd coming? I know about the Terraonion cart but I like my tower of power but hate the disc drive setup.

>>6161545
Looking at the prices of Mega CD units these days, you'd be much better oof buying a Mega SD.

Someone should design a retro 32X to go with these

>>6162767
No. He was probably thinking of Laseractive though.

>>6163417
>>6163421
It's just a rumor so don't get too excited.

>>6162768
There are good games in the Sega CD you cynical numale.

>>6164185
Is there a good online resource available for researching Sega CD games? I have a handful of dumps of the well known ones but I would like to really dig into the library since I missed it as a teenager.

>>6164507
No there aren't you projecting numale

>>6161545
I actually think it looks clunky as fuck and doesn't' fit at all. It makes the Mega Drive look like a piece honking piece of plastic. It turns it into a weird brick.

The Model 2 on the Model 1 looks like an actual addon, as opposed to just... A double decker thing...

As long as you have the plastic part that goes under the Model 1.

>>6165172
>As long as you have the plastic part that goes under the Model 1.

You don't NEED that either, it's just more aesthetically pleasing.

>>6165172
>model console 1 with model 2 cd
>using the headphone jack
>listen to my opinion

>>6161648
PAL systems are based. Don't listen to him.

>>6167393
Why wouldn't you use the headphone jack? The model 1 doesn't put out stereo audio from the AV port. You can plug an aux cable into the headphone jack on the Genesis and the other end into the mixing port on the back of the Sega CD, so you can get stereo audio out of the red and white jacks from the Sega CD and only use the video part of the Genesis' AV port. The model 1 does not have the capability to send stereo audio to the Sega CD through the expansion port, so this is the "workaround".

>>6167515
Most of my models 1s have audio out on the expansion port. That's why I wouldn't use the headphone jack and why I'm laughing at a zoomer.

>>6161545
The model 2 has a plastic piece you can screw onto the end of it with another metal playe so you can attach a model 1 genesis onto it and still have it be aesthetically pleasing since it's supported completely from beneath.

>>6161551
Surface mounts arent hard to replace

>>6167914
Enjoy your mono

>>6167393
>>6167914
You do realize that's the only way of getting stereo through your model 1 without any modding right?

>>6167914
The expansion port audio out is mono on a model 1. You're getting mono Genesis audio mixed with the stereo CD audio that way. You're not laughing at a zoomer, you're desperately grasping for ways to feel superior over someone else by purposefully being retarded and not using the way Sega provided for you to get stereo Genesis audio mixed with the stereo CD audio. If you're unlucky enough to have a VA7 revision model 1, this is especially important as it has the worse audio chip that will degrade the CD's audio like a model 2, and using the mixing port uses the much better CD's mixing instead.

I just bought a Mega Drive 1 + Mega CD 1 bundle with 10+ games and replaced capacitors on the MCD.

>>6168040
Didn't even touch your mom

>>6168056
You realize that's why not all my model 1's have it right? Of course not. Why read and comprehend when you can embarrass yourself with a shitpost.

>>6168376
I'm laughing at a projecting zoomer desperately grasping for ways to explain things his little zoomer mind can't comprehend. You're a poster child for the fool who thinks himself wise. You don't have the slightest clue what I'm talking about and that fact that you're so livid you can't even think straight is hilarious. Unless you can't think straight because you're retarded. Then it's just sad.

>>6169364
I'm waiting for you to explain anything. All you're doing is claiming superiority without providing any facts to back yourself up, digging your retardation hole deeper.

>>6169440
I wouldn't presume to think I could explain anything to a retarded zoomer like you. Especially one who thinks he's entitled anything except ridicule.

>>6161551
Any problems with your X'Eye playing discs? Mine was not well taken care of and sometimes doesn't want to read discs.

>>6169937
Oh, so you're just retarded, ok. As you can't support your claims. Just admit you're wrong already, mono is all you get out of the expansion port, you have to use the headphone jack to mix in stereo. All you're doing is making yourself look worse and digging that hole deeper.

>>6169937
Zoomer

>>6167393
Been living under a rock? You need to connect the Sega CD to the model 1 Genesis headphone jack in order to mix the Genesis audio with the CD tracks. Otherwise you just get the sounds from the Genesis.

>>6169364
Jesus Christ you have no idea the fuck you're talking about.

>>6170186
Top kek kid. You truly are a master or irony. Digging your hole with that mono out of the expansion port shit and proving your claims by stamping you foot and shouting "i want an oompa loompa nao!" So wrong yet so sure you're right. It'd be entertaining if it weren't so pathetic.

>>6170354
>You need
No I don't. (You) might but I've modded several of my model 1s to use the expansion port for audio like the model 2 does. It's not rocket science but some tard just can't seem to wrap his head around it. Probably because it's empty.

>>6170358
>i'm retarded and turbocringe
cringe

>not Mega SG and Mega SD

>>6171445
You could have just said you modded it from the beginning and not made a fool of yourself

>>6170038
I actually bought it failing to read discs. I swapped in a laser out of one of my Saturns (literally the same laser) and not only did it start reading discs, when I put its laser into the Saturn the Saturn still read discs so I never even bought a part. To be honest, the last time I tried using the X'Eye, it reset every time it tried to spin up the disc but I think that's probably just a problem with its power supply. I rummaged in a thrift bin and got a power supply that was the precise voltage and amperage and I think it just has aged out of its rated amperage since then. I haven't gotten around to figuring out if I'm right though.

I'm good.

>>6171623
I said that a few days ago. You must have been too busy zooming to notice. And of course I wasn't going to point that out to you because I was enjoying watching you making a fool of yourself. Done digging yet?

>>6171709
I'll give that a shot, thanks for the suggestion. My power supply has a loose wire so it has to be held in a certain position or it cuts the power. I ended up getting a variable voltage adapter that works great. https://www.bestbuy.com/site/insignia-ac-adapter-black/5019131.p?skuId=5019131

>>6171949
>most of my model 1s have have audio out on the expansion port
You realize all of them already have this right? It's just mono, not stereo. Nowhere did you originally say you modded them, like the retarded brainlet you are. Done digging yet?

>>6172270
I did. Looks like you zoomed past it again. Maybe you're seething so hard you can't read the posts through those delicious baby tears. You just can't stop digging can you? The power of autism compels you.

>>6172978
>projecting this hard

>>6171949
Would you mind showing how you modded your Model 1 Genesis to have audio on the expansion port? I'm curious as to where you tapped the stereo sound from on the board.

>>6171709
is that something to be concerned about with older electronics, actual amp tolerance drifting from nominal? I've used the same thrift bin approach for music shit before and I've gotten occasionally jank results, always just assumed there was some variable at play I wasn't aware of

>>6172270
>You realize all of them already have this right? It's just mono, not stereo.
sauce?

>>6173637
https://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=38990
This thread discusses it. If it had stereo out through the expansion port, the mixing cable wouldn't be necessary and Sega wouldn't have bothered spending the money to add them. The Model 2 Genesis does have stereo out through the expansion port, as evidenced by it not needing to use a headphone jack+mixing cable to get stereo through the AV jack or the Genesis' half of the audio through the RCA jacks on the Sega CD. You can get Sega CD audio through the AV jack on a model 1 without using the mixing cable or the CD's audio jacks, but it will be mono.

Bought a 32X and it came with the cables as well as this weird jumper thing that appears to attach to the cd expansion port. Thing is that I have a sega cd already attached. Can I just use it without this thing?

>>6173003
>no u
The death cry of the failed zoomer

>>6173038
I don't have a picture handy but the best place to pull it from is the header that goes to the headphone board. This way you can use the volume control to adjust the genesis sound.

>>6173637
He doesn't have any because it doesn't exist. This whole time he's been making this claim but it's complete bullshit. The irony is epic. My claim is 100% factual and his "proof" that it isn't is 100% bullshit.

>>6173705
Yes, you can (most likely) use it without it. Some CD 32X games actually require both add-ons anyway. The V0 32x (stamped MK-84000 on the PCB visible through the cartridge port flaps, revisions tack an A on the end) has an incompatibility with certain model 2 Genesis consoles, and you need either this adapter or a Sega CD to make it work for unknown reasons.
>>6173756
You haven't provided any proof on the contrary except your word, which is obviously worthless because you're retarded.

>>6173756
So let me get this straight. You ridiculed someone here >>6167393 for using the mixing cable with the headphone jack to get stereo out from the Model 1 Genesis and talked down to everyone about how superior it is to mod the expansion port. In the end though that mod was just you tapping the audio from the headphone out headers which would effectively give the same result as using the mixing cable through the headphone jack?

If you did something like implement your own mixing circuit or a better amplifier I could see your point, but with what you actually did this is a rather petty and retarded argument.

>>6173762
>You haven't provided any proof on the contrary to my imaginary friend existing

>>6173769
>So let me get this straight. I seethed for days because I didn't read the posts I was replying to and now I'm try to spergsplain my stupid away?
Yeah, pretty much that. lol

>>6174006
>>You haven't provided any proof on the contrary to my imaginary friend existing
How retarded are you? This isn't imaginary. This is a mass produced circuit board that you should be able to point out where the traces are that take stereo audio from the YM2612 to the expansion port, if it did, and then I could reproduce it on my own Model 1. The only reason you're not giving me a concrete answer is because you know you're wrong. Stop sidestepping and admit it, you literal toddler.

I think the dumbest part of this is that nobody would normally talk about a modded system like this.
>What do you mean? N64s have HDMI out, dumbass.
>Two posts later
>Well MINE does, fucktard, should've read my post properly

>>6172978
Stop posting you autistic cunt.

>>6174092

>>6174312
Not an argument

>>6174006
>To be such a narcissist that you think everyone on the board is seething over your posts.

Seriously get over yourself. I just came in here and saw you making an ass of yourself. I simply asked where you were getting the stereo from on the Genesis board to see if possibly there was some merit to you ridiculing someone for using the mixing cable. But instead you just proved that you're nothing more than a retarded shitposter on /vr/.

>>6174531
>the truth hurts

>>6174617
>but instead i just proved that i'm nothing more than a retarded shitposter

>>6175776
>but instead i just proved that i'm nothing more than a retarded shitposter
That's true though. And saying "seething" is nothing more than ad hominem which is the farthest from being an argument than a statement can be. Until you can provide picture evidence of your Genesis having stereo out through the expansion port, you're nothing more than a retarded shitposter.

>>6175859
>seething intensifies
lmao kid

>>6176221
Cope

>>6175776
Yes, you are a retarded shitposter. Glad we can agree on that.

>>6176221
>Think's he's so important that everyone else must be obsessed with his posts.

Narcissism in a nutshell.

>>6176257
>>6176473
>SEETHING

>>6177064
Why do you keep announcing what you are doing

>>6177278
>n-n-no u
ZOOM!

>>6178003
>zoom
Seething

>>6163572
Yep, that's the one. He definitely said 'x-eye' though, cuz I remember thinking 'X, I' in my head, as in the letters, which is weird in and of itself cuz I don't think in English.

>>6178240
yawn

>>6178358
cope & seethe

>>6178406
cringe

>>6179205
>cringe
Back to plebbit with you

>>6179606

>>6171845
Ugh fucking disgusting

>>6171845
Based