/vr/ - Retro Games

Played and beat it after all these years on my 3DS, no restore points.

Felt awesome, bro.

>>615664
I'm playing it right now. Even dug out my NES to give it a go. Damn that /v/ anon for mentioning this torturous game. I wish I was dead.

To beat the orange knights with ease, jump, time your stab so your sword hits the top of their helmet, repeat until they die.

Also, make damn sure you save properly, holding Reset while turning off the power, or else...

why must people believe that dark souls is difficult

>>615690
Is that the way to go? I just try to read their attacks and have my shield placed accordingly. They do telegraph, but damn it tricky.

>>615705
It's the cheap way, but it always, always works. The same thing will work on red knights later on. Blue knights will be trickier, though, since they throw projectiles.

>>615653
>This game makes Dark Souls look like Angry Birds
That is just about any old-school Konami game, really.

>>615703
WOW SORRY I DIDNT GROW UP WITH BATTLETOADS AND NINJA GAIDEN STOP BEING SUCH A FUNHATING PRETENTIOUS CUNTBAG

>>615703
Just a method of comparison bro, settle down.

>>615718
Are you trying to be ironic?

best zelda :3

>>615741
It's definitely up there, I agree. It gets more hate than it deserves.

Dark souls isn't hard at all. Learn the boss patterns and side step.

neither is zelda 2. Once you master the orange knight its just about navigating the dungeons and mana managment. Seriously the only hard enemies are the orange knights and their variants

I've seriously never been able to make any progress ever on this game. Like at all. I don't get it.

>>615771
Can't find where to go next or are the dungeons too hard or what?

>>615653
>makes Dark Souls look like Angry Birds
I've beaten Dark Souls 16 times and gotten all the trophies twice, but I've yet to come even close to getting 100% on an Angry Birds game.
You got your difficulties backwards, son.

what is dark souls

>>615790
There's a difference between difficulty and tedium, Anon.

>>615705

Crouch-jump and attack on your way down right at head level. If you do it right, your sword will slide down their entire sprite before Link pulls it back.

It's one of the more effective techniques against any enemy that uses a shield. Including Dark Link.

I find revisiting pretty much any NES game difficult by default. I'm not sure how to explain it but it's like they require a different skillset and patience than anything 16-bit and up. Maybe it's because games often forget what rooms you cleared and instead have enemies instantly respawn, or because stuff like power ups and checkpoints are few and far between. However once you get into the groove of it then it gets much better and starts to feel refreshing compared to any modern game.

>>615812
OP here, I'm finding that to be true once again. Finally fuckled my way down past the dark cave to the swamp area, and it's starting to be kinda fun. Still have no idea where to go, though...

I like how the manual straight up tells you to draw your own damn map. I'm only at the second palace and I'm already considering this.

>>615653
>Those fucking orange knight guys.
and those are the weak ones

game isn't that hard you may want to grind up some attack power though

>>615812

I do this all the time.

Just beat TMNT last night without any turtle dying. Feel like I could take on the world.

>>615867
Christ, I have that game too. It's on my list after this. Not looking forward to the dam bomb section.

>>615890

It's come to the point where I can do the first 3 levels only getting hit a few times. It's the foot clan base + technodrome that fucks me over.

>>615812
I struggle to get into some older games just because of the difficulty level. My first console was the SNES, and even then I played mostly first party/entry level stuff (Mario games, Kirby, Zelda...) so this whole retro-difficulty thing is somewhat new to me.

>>615703
it's a trial and error difficulty, die the first time, pass on the second try
it gets tedious on a modern age game

>>615703
Because their whole advertisement was based around that. If the next Mario game had THE HARDEST MARIO GAME EVER MADE, PREPARE TO GAME OVER printed everywhere, people would believe it and keep calling it hard, even if it was actually easier than Mario World

>>615690
Thank you so much.

I had one square of life left. I ran into 2 red knights and said fuck it I'll try the jumping thing, and killed them without getting hit once. Now I have the glove.

>>615783
Just no idea where to go. I wander through that first town and talk to some people and that's about it. Maybe i'll bust it out tonight, it's been a while since I took a whack at it.

>>615703
To be fair, it is a pretty difficult game. I mean expecting people to fight things that kill you in a few hits while your camera goes reeling through a wall blocking your entire view like it was fucking 1995. It's not easy fighting opponents you can't see.

>>615854
I remember borrowing this game from a friend way back when, and he also lent me the map of Death Mountain that he'd made. It was very helpful. Looking back, I kinda wish I'd explored on my own and made more of my own maps.

>>615741
>>615746
Homo Sapiens of African descent who I identify as being in my possession.

I feel like Zelda Ii's difficulty really decreases after Death Mountain. That's the hardest part of the game.

>>621432
> and he also lent me the map of Death Mountain that he'd made. It was very helpful.
Death mountain isn't even difficult to get through without a map. You don't even need to remember shit really, it pretty much leads you out. The trick isn't figuring the fucking thing out, it's surviving it because the shit in there will fuck you up if you're not high enough level or skilled enough.

>>621449
> That's the hardest part of the game.
It really isn't.

>>615713

As long as you don't let up and keep leaping into the blue knights they won't have time to fire swords at you. The Eagle Knights on the other hand...

For the few there are, they are easily the toughest regular enemies in the game. Particularly the blue ones.

Still, probably my favorite Zelda in the series.

>>616497

It really isn't. Plan your moves out and take your time and you'll rarely die, if ever.

>>621523
Upward thrust 'em in the crotch when they jump overhead.

>>621523
>As long as you don't let up and keep leaping into the blue knights they won't have time to fire swords at you.
They start throwing swords at you before you can reach them most of the time. It's not an issue of letting of, it's an issue of timing.

>>621506

Death Mountain is hard for people who don't grind. Now Death Valley/Great Palace... there's a place where it doesn't matter how strong you are, it's still going to fuck you in the ass your first go.

Yeah I got the hammer!

btw what's the best way to deal with the lizard axe-wielding guys?

Adventure of Link is an awesome fucking game. It gets way more shit than it deserves.

>>621449
The Great Palace is the hardest part of the game if you don't have a map. Good luck trying to kill those blue and red hawk knights without losing a shitton of health

>>622727
This, I used to hate it but now have come to respect it

>>621479
I disagree i did all the other s with no map but death mountain has me stumped.

>>615653
>This game makes Dark Souls look like Angry Birds

PFFFFFT... If this makes Dark Souls look like Angry Birds then Comix Zone makes it look like a fucking Leap Frog game

>>622727
Nah, it's clunky. Faxanadu is superior in every way, even with the ghastly password length.

Not OP, but I just beat this a few minutes ago for the first time.

Wow, these feels. First off, that game was damn hard! It has been a few years since a game managed to give me blisters. I kind of loved how it had this massive scope to it, where the entire area that the first game took place in is just this little side quest to get the hammer. I loved that you reset to the North Palace when you continued; it's annoying to walk back to where you need to be, but it keeps you grounded because the first thing you see each time is the sleeping princess.

The final battle with your shadow is immensely satisfying in a way that it's hard to describe, as well as being a tough fight. I even kind of liked how you got pulled out of the world map in certain areas such as bridges and the barricade that the lizard men have set up in the mountains, it gives it a certain cinematic feel. On the other hand, I'm almost glad I didn't play this as a kid, because I wouldn't have had the patience for it, and despite using sparing save states for most of the game I gave in and saved right before the final two boss fights because fuck those bird knights in the Grand Palace right to hell. Still, what a great feeling to have beaten this!

>>615703
It's not as difficult as some try to make you believe, but the challenge in Demon's Souls along with Dark Souls was a breath of fresh air compared to the usual cakewalk we get today. Of course, it's always easier after repetition.

Polite sage for not retro.

>>623418
Oddly enough, choosing "continue" once you reach The Grand Palace, lets you continue from the entrance. The only instance in the game that does not take you back to the North Palace

>>615653
My first rpg broke my will as a baby gamer.

>>615653
>This game makes Dark Souls look like Angry Birds
I've completed AoL thrice already. I've yet to beat Dark Souls, despite clocking in over 100 hours now. AoL's difficulty is vastly overstated, everything from Ninja Gaiden to your typical shmup tends to be harder.

Polite sage for making an off-topic remark.