/vr/ - Retro Games

Finally. I hope Lukie and DKOldies are next. They all massively over price their shit.

>>6136245
>20 years
Has JJ Games really been around since 2000? I hadn't heard of them until relatively (like maybe in the past 5 years) recently.

>>6136278
Probably, the same guy also owns PriceCharting just FYI.

>>6136264
fpbp. It's quite an accomplishment to have prices even worse than ebay, but by golly they pulled it off.

Also
>liquidating all our games [...] Prices will decrease every day until the stuff sells
I'm guessing that means they'll lower them down to ebay prices before just dumping them all on ebay as BiN listings?

>>6136287
At least they intend to sell them. I shudder to think how much retro stuff Gamestop will destroy once they go under too.

>>6136245
i just bought $400 of retro shit on amazon lmao fuck going out in public to stores and shit

>>6136245
I just looked at their website and couldn't find a single thing i'd want to buy. Maybe they're going out of business because their stock is complete shite?

>>6136346
I'm seeing this become more of a reality. In SoCal, Frank n Son, which used to have EVERYTHING, is slowly losing a lot of their stock and only having crappy sports and licensed games. I think we've finally reached the point where everyone knows how valuable old games are coupled by the mass hunt of collectors getting their hands on everything they have.

Mix that with Milennials who are starting to make money being able to go to these shops to rebuy their childhoods and availability, even overpriced availability, is becoming scarce.

>>6136264
>>6136285
Please remove yourselves from among the living.

>>6136296
if by destroy you mean stolen by employees and then sold on ebay, sure

>my business model of buying on ebay and selling for more is no longer working from some reason
lol

>>6136367
I do wonder though if there is some declining interest. Apparently JJGames was able to stay in business for some time, so sales were good enough at least somewhat recently. I guess the question is are they not making enough because they can't find good enough deals to resell, or is it that people just aren't interested in buying at all (or maybe their former buyers just moved elsewhere)? They claim it is lack of interest.

>>6136245
crap, I actually have bought like 40 games from them, mostly GBA for my sons who I gave GBAs to a few years back

they were a good source for cheap low-value games due to the $5 off 5 deal on ebay

This year I only sold a bunch of shit when ebay had some kind of coupon sale. Nothing else for months.

>>6136368
Explain.

>>6136264
There is literally no online store that sells retro for cheap. You should be desire that every retro store dissapear.

>>6136379
They're trying to blame demand, but if you've got no supply then of course you won't have any demand. 95% of the shit on their website is disc-only, covered in ex-rental stickers or otherwise in crap condition. Nobody wants to pay $100 for an ex-rental cart some crackhead stole when they can just emulate it if they just wanted to play the game. People will only pay a premium for stuff in top condition.

I mean how can you blame demand when you're trying to sell an Ogre Battle 64 cart in crap condition for $60? And i'm guessing that's the sale price. I bought the same thing for $30 off Ebay last month.

>>6136367
It's the same story at the retro stores near me. Collectors/hoarders own everything now.

>Oh neat, maybe I can get some stuff I'm interested in
>start looking for Genesis controllers
>all they have is third party crap 6-buttons for $8
>no mouse, no light gun
>look for NES controllers
>nothing but painbricks, painbrick clones, and the zapper
>no advantages, no 4-score or satellite adaptors, no dogbones
>check PS1
>actually have original and dual shocks
>no mouse, no 4-player adaptor, no light-guns
>check SNES
>official for $14, clone for $10.50
>no mouse, no super scope
>check Dreamcast
>no fucking controllers period
>the hell?
>look at NES games
>SMB3 game only going for $23
>vgpc lists it at $10 since mid 2018 and going as low as $8
They did it to themselves for trying to sell shit at 2015-2016 prices and having shit selection.

>>6136367
>Mix that with Milennials who are starting to make money being able to go to these shops to rebuy their childhoods and availability, even overpriced availability, is becoming scarce.
The Milennials who are starting to make money are too young to give a shit about anything older than the N64.

If this is the kind of prices they were asking for common as fuck games then I'm not surprised they went under

>>6136440
It's always the same mentality with these morons. "I don't need to compete with the internet, people wanna be able to take it home with them the same day. So I can easily charge twice online prices, after all I gotta pay muh bills!" Then a few years later: "Nothin is selling anymore, I'm going out of business!"

Protip for any other would-be game salesmen, you make far more money selling volume in person than trying to turn a large profit on every single item. If you are buying it off people at 50% or less, then you can afford to sell for less than market. $1-$5 below market or more can make sales happen. Turning $2 profit on 100 items is far more profitable than turning $10 profit on 5 items. Sell in bulk or enjoy having your shelves turn into shovelware and sports titles.

>>6136448
A protip for retailers is get the fuck out of flipping retro games and into repairs/disc resurfacing because the gravy train's over.

>>6136390
A vintage game store going out of business is nothing to be happy about.
>muh overpricing
Have you ever run a store? You must know at least know what supply and demand is. If there's less of a demand for physical vintage games than ever before, then prices have to go higher than the seller might normally even be comfortable with to compensate. The alternative is to go as dirt cheap as you possibly can and liquidate your stock as they are currently doing. I know you both understand this--it isn't rocket science. And yet like spoiled zoomer brats you go "finally, their prices are shit" without an inch of remorse for the fact that a retro game seller of 20 years, and one of the very last of its size, is going out of business.

You're probably too young to remember Funcoland, but there used to be a nationwide chain of brick and mortar stores that sold retro games and it was the fucking shit. The mid-late 90s retro gaming online boom likely wouldn't have happened the way it did without brick and mortar stores like Funcoland selling NES games and older at an affordable price. The sudden availability to easily discover games that people missed when they were a kid and to play them on real hardware--that was a game changer. Even now you can find oldbie collectors who still talk about Funcoland in hushed tones. It became part of retro gaming history.

Then they went out of business/were bought out by Gamestop. The retro market shifted to eBay, but not everyone liked haggling over auctions, so it opened a niche for sites like JJGames to open. Now the owner is closing up shop because there's not enough business to keep the bills paid, and you're happy? You're happy that we're losing another square in the tapestry of retro game enthusiast history?

>>6136465

>>6136491
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gO7uemm6Yo

>>6136465
t. Seething retro cuck store

>>6136465
Get rekt scalper.

>>6136465
>You're happy that we're losing another square in the tapestry of retro game enthusiast history?
Absolutely.

>>6136465
What in the goddamn?

>>6136465
Don't try to compare the two. Funcoland sold NES SMB/Duck Hunt carts for 10 cents each. JJGames sells them for $4 a pop. The reason Funcoland is remembered so fondly is because their prices were based off of supply and demand, not trying to turn a few bucks profit off of every single game.

>>6136465
Saving this pasta for the next big store that goes under

>>6136465

>>6136496
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxauqa7rJgI

>>6136245
Are they lieing where the fuck are the deals? Im on their site and all i see is overpriced shit

>>6136497
>>6136498
>hurrrr you must be a retro game seller yourself hurrrrr
Honestly, what the fuck did I expect from you underage retards?
>>6136501
Hold your breath indefinitely.
>>6136505
>Don't try to compare the two. Funcoland sold NES SMB/Duck Hunt carts for 10 cents each.
Gee Anon, you think maybe 20+ years, the proliferation of other sellers, and the rise of emulation might just have a little to do with why carts can't be sold for 10 cents anymore?
>The reason Funcoland is remembered so fondly is because their prices were based off of supply and demand, not trying to turn a few bucks profit off of every single game.
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume I'm misreading you and that you're not implying that it's wrong to try to make a profit off of every single game. Or do you think they should just not have common titles like SMB/Duck Hunt and SMB3 in stock if they can't afford to sell them for less than what the store paid for them?

>>6136521
I'm happy to see any stores that sell retro stuff go under, it means it'll have less exposure to dumb normalfags. It'll be cool if the hobby goes back to being niche again once the dipshit boomers nostalgia wears off and the numale trend hoppers find something else to ruin.

>>6136521
>20+ years, the proliferation of other sellers, and the rise of emulation might just have a little to do with why carts can't be sold for 10 cents anymore
Competition and lower demand for physical media drives prices down, not up. And 20-some years of inflation would at worst mean a 10 cent item becomes 15 cents. What the fuck even is this logic?
>>6136528
>the dipshit boomers nostalgia wears off and the numale trend hoppers find something else to ruin
So which one are you?

>>6136530
>So which one are you?
Neither.

>>6136531

>>6136534
I'm no trend hopper. My older brother used to make fun of me for liking 80s/90s games in the mid 2000s. Technology improved so fast in those days 90s games already seemed retro.

>>6136530
>Competition and lower demand for physical media drives prices down, not up
Only to an extent. If the pendulum swings too far in that direction and you have loads of back stock to get rid of, what are you going to do to recoup the cost of your investments? Serious question. I'm no business major, but it seems like if you're losing that much money to disinterest you're fucked unless you liquidate your inventory as they are doing.

>>6136465
Maybe if the employees didn't hog the Saturns for themselves to sell on ebay I'd be bummed out about it, but fuck brick and mortar "retro" stores.

>>6136542
Well if they actually do that, yeah, that is fucked. I still remember when I could find good shit at pawn shops before they wised up and realized they could sell the good stuff for more on eBay.

>>6136549
Pawn shop near me had an Xbox for 100 bucks. I told the guy I'd give him 45 and he laughed at me and actually said "I know what that is". I told him I was offering to overpay out of respect for the air conditioning he had on and left.

The xbox is still there, two years later. Still 100 bucks.

>>6136551
Ha, serves the dickhead right. Have you ever offered to buy it again?

>>6136553
No. I got one from Game Xchange or whatever and the damn thing exploded when I turned it on one day. Scorched the fucking dresser and threw a breaker.

>>6136562
Damn.

>>6136551
>Xbox
Original, 360, or Xbone? Just curious.

>>6136538
Which means slashing your prices to clear your inventory... Again, something that drives prices down instead of up.
The prices are high today because of market speculation and limited supply making price manipulation feasible with only modest resources. Not this bizarro world version of econ-101 you're putting forth.

>>6136567
Original.
>>6136563
They exchanged it, at least.

>>6136578
>OG Xbox for $100

Jesus lord, I still find those at thrift stores for $10 or under. That guy was out of his mind.

>>6136569
>Which means slashing your prices to clear your inventory... Again, something that drives prices down instead of up.
And? I'm not sure what you're driving at here unless you're only looking at it from the consumer perspective. Maybe JJGames overpaid for some lot of 2,000 SMB/Duck Hunt carts, but they still have to try to get their money back somehow, which naturally means there's going to be some markup. And if it's fine if you think it's too much markup, but you're dreaming if you think SMB could ever be sold for 10 cents again. There's just no profit in going anywhere near that low when more people than ever are turning to emulation and you still have bills to pay.

>>6136586
There's always a cost to holding inventory. Eventually no price will recoup your expenses and lost opportunities when you could have spent your time and storage on something else, and you'd have actually lost less money in the long run by just throwing the unsaleable shit in the bin.
You'll also have collections re-entering the market as people riding the fad get bored or hell even die off, and if nobody's buying anymore they won't be commanding their old ebay prices.
These old carts will become worthless again eventually. It's only a matter of when.

>>6136595
Can't wait to get the complete saturn library for $50

>>6136379
It's almost as if a lot of people didn't know where to buy shit. But that can't possibly be the case. If it were would would have had hundreds of threads here asking where to buy games.

>>6136613
You'll just need to outlive a few hikikomori weebs. Which actually probably won't take that long, come to think of it.

>>6136551
>I know what I have
Lol. What a faggot. Fuck the Boomers.

>>6136624
>le boomer meme
>>>/reddit/

>>6136613
You'll never get it for $50 because i'd buy it for $100

>>6136634
You're definitely overpaying there they cost like 5 cents each.

Literally why buy anything anymore? RA run-ahead, MAME's low latency mode, and VRR displays with less than a frame of lag allow you to run everything as well as you could on a console/CRT. The only /vr/ stuff you need hardware for is the CDi and lightgun shit.
>muh shelf

>>6136652
Why would anyone listen to the opinion of someone who recommends buying a CDi?

>>6136465
>If there's less of a demand for physical vintage games than ever before, then prices have to go higher
Based anon rewriting the very fabric of economics

>>6136245
>see they post image of pretty game
>description says "this is a stock image and may not be the same game you receive"
>check other listings and theres 4 other games with torn labels covered in cum and sharpie of MIKEY SMITH for the same price with the same description


the price was bad enough but the risk game makes it a dead lister to me

>>6136245
>check out their ps2 controllers
>their used ones are the same price as the new ones in my area
Yeah, no.

One time I bought a disk-only copy of something from him and he sent me just the disk in a giant envelope. No generic case, no cardboard, nothing. Naturally it was broken into a million pieces when I got it. First he made me take about a dozen pictures of the pieces "to make sure it was really broken" and then he made me send the pieces back to him. He got mad at me for "not packaging them very well." Fuck him, good riddance.

>>6136465
Difference is Funcoland was based as fuck and had great prices. There's no point to these self-indulgent mom n pop places like jjgames when online is both more convenient AND cheaper.

>>6136505
Funcoland was the best. I got a copy of Goldeneye for like 10 dollars. I could rent those super short gameboy games for 50 cents.

>>6136521
You are misreading me. I'm saying trying to make a few dollars profit off of each game like JJGames is doing($10 markup?) is why their shit doesn't sell. Funcoland did well in sales because they only priced things slightly above market rate. They sold SMB/DH for 10 cents since they would buy it for 1 cent. They died off because they filled up with shovelware and sports titles since they bought everything without thinking if there would be a buyer.

A store has to make a profit, no argument there. My argument is they can make far more selling 500 games for a dollar profit each than selling 100 games for $4 profit each. By pushing for over $10 markup on every item, JJGames priced themselves out of the market. Funcoland didn't price themselves out of the market, they inventory screwed themselves.

>>6137317
i say that every god damned time but these retards just dont get it. They're penny wise and pound foolish, they would rather loose money in overhead than not get full value for a game, it's like they just bank on all their customers being super desperate and think they are the only option.

>>6136627
>Not knowing Boomer is a term for Baby Boomers
>Calls everything a meme
>>>/LGBT/

>>6136465
The replies you got are honestly a little bit chilling. I can see the cultural degradation.

>>6137748
depressing
isn't it

>>6136264
i don't understand wanting a business to fail because you're unwilling to pay their prices.

>>6137820
Because others will see their prices and then try to match them, driving up prices even more.

>>6137820
Why should I pay their prices when I can find the same games in the same condition or better elsewhere for less? It's not my fault that I refuse to give them money, it's their fault for not being competitive with people who sell games for less.

>>6137054
>There's no point to these self-indulgent mom n pop places like jjgames when online is both more convenient AND cheaper.
You realize that JJGames is mainly online and not a chain of B&M stores, right?

>>6137703
If your takeaway was that I didn’t know what boomer stood for you’re missing the point, which is that complaining about “boomers” on the fucking retro video game board on this site makes you sound like an underage tourist.

>>6137748
>>6137773
They literally don’t care that we’re losing another used game institution.
>>6137317
I can’t argue with your logic, because this does seem to make a lot of business sense. It’s a shame they didn’t try that.

>>6137943
Stop agreeing with yourself faggot.

I just checked and all the games i want are either not there or really fucking expensive
>going out of business sale
>double ebay prices anyways

>>6136465
lmao kys scalper

>>6136634
I'd pay 200 for the entire physical library desu.

>>6136245
It is sad to see a retro store go under, but that's the way she goes I guess. Walking into one of those stores really reminded me of renting games on the weekend with my dad. My local store went under about a year ago, which really fucking sucked. The guy who ran it was nice and offered decent prices. I felt bad for the guy, but what are we supposed to do? It is a dying industry.

>>6136542
Gamecrazy withheld Dragon Warrior III / IV from me, and now they're dead; rip in piss

>>6136569
The prices are high today because of fags on Ebay buying shit up like its SNES classic and then trying to flip 20 earthbounds. Good luck niggers flashcarts killed that speculation forever

>>6136245
Scalpers be like, what am I going to do now with these 300 Jurassic parks?

All there is to say is, in 2020 if you don't have most of your retro gaming collection complete, you're underage. I'm 25 and was a young kid when retro gaming ended and yet most of what I haven't collected enough of is Neo Geo stuff. Each console has less than a dozen games left that I really want and even then it's stuff I can live without.

>>6136264
I recently got Pacman 2 from lukie for like 4 bucks, at least for me it was cheaper getting common games from them than Ebay because they have ridiculous shipping costs to my 3rd world shithole

>>6136465
>"It's ok for them to sell them that expensive because everyone else does it at eBay!"
>Calling everyone you disagree with as zoomer
Nice arguments, retard

>>6136551
>First Xbox for 100 bucks
What the fuck? In my country they literally sell them at flea markets for 50 bucks at most.

Two minutes on their website looking at NES games shows why they are going out of business. Mike Tyson Punchout for $34, Zelda for $20, Metroid for $25. Its like they found the highest price that the games sold for in the last 10 years, and then put another $5 or $10 markup. Never heard of jj games before but they can get fucked.

>>6138148
>"It's ok for them to sell them that expensive because everyone else does it at eBay!"
Not even close to anything I said, but okay.
>>6137951
You know, if you’re going to play the samefag card it helps to distinguish which part of the post you’re accusing of being samefaggotry.
>>6137964
Meaningless buzzword. I’ve sold like 3 games on eBay and 2 flash carts and all were listed for less than retail value, brainlet.

>Doesn't even have a Saturn section.

>>6136278
yeah, but half that time was him essentially reselling from home, which I don't think qualifies.

>>6138027
I'm a year older than you and I had a period where I sold off a decent amount of games in my youth and couldn't really start getting them back in full force until I was free from debt. Not all of us were wise enough to keep all of our games, and I'm only now trying to build back up. But thank fucking god I had a good chunk of my games left and a friend who had a bunch of the same stuff I had back in the day he sold to me for cheap. There's plenty of people like me out there, especially because during my time in college prices were still fucking nuts. It's only now that NES and SNES games are starting to really come down again.

599 U.S. dollars

>>6138274
It does, you have to search for it. There's only 5 games though and they're all loose.

>>6136551
>I know what that is

You can buy a complete original xbox for 60 bucks easy, what kind of a fucking retard was he?

>>6136551
>I know what that is

You can buy a complete original xbox for 50 bucks, with games, easy, what kind of a fucking retard was he?

>>6136245
And I'm sure nothing of value was lost.

I literally have better luck on ebay than with these places.

>>6137943
Institution my ass. None of these fucking retro stores are institutions unless they're part of your local community.

this is apart of the broader trend of retail getting fucked. we're heading towards a big recession.

>>6138735
Retail is getting fucked because they didn't adapt and now everyone buys everything online.

>>6136374
nice fantasy. the employees are gonna show up to a locked door one day unexpectedly.

>>6138496
If they don't have a copy of Shining Force III, they are wasting my time.

Also, they'd probably want like $5000 for it or something.

>>6136465
>less demand = higher prices

thats why human fecal matter must be so expensive, because nobody wants that shit
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>6138759
this this this

>>6136327
huh? you realize this was website right?

>>6136245
I never cared for this place. Prices were always ridiculously high. Most people I know who used them bought cheap filler titles for under $5.

>>6136562
I remember there was a recall on the power cables. I still have the dangerous one.

>>6137317
>My argument is they can make far more selling 500 games for a dollar profit each than selling 100 games for $4 profit each.
That's true provided the market is large enough for 500 sales. Too often I see businesses cut their own throat on sales to get footfall but if the punters don't show up 10% off the list price hurts you a lot more than the customer saves.
e.g. If you buy something at $10 and sell for $20 that's a 50% margin. If you take 10% off and sell for $18 that's a 40% margin. You've dropped your profit by 20% to give the customer 10%.

On the other hand, like you say, holding prices high can lead to a dwindling customer base as they learn not to waste their time even looking when you're a rip-off merchant.

Pricing is difficult. I subscribe to the amazon model. You invent a shelf cost, say A/C, lighting, wages, taxes, rent, etc. amounts to $x per day. Divide $x by the total products you expect to keep on hand. Everything that doesn't sell is "costing" you $x/num_products per day. So you drop the prices on set schedules to keep things moving and reduce your stock holdings.

>>6136519
And that's why they're going out of business. Mystery solved!

>>6136448
>you make far more money selling volume in person
Fucking THIS. The only retro game seller I hit up anymore is this dude in the corner of my flea market. His prices are ALWAYS 10-15 bucks lower than other stores (even stores in the same flea market) and when you buy bulk (at least 3 games), he always gives discounts. And once you buy $50 worth, he lets you grab a game for free from his wall of super-common overstock (shit like Super Tennis or Columns usually, but hey, free is free). And because he prices his games to sell, he's always changing his stock and getting new stuff in. Meanwhile, other stores are still sitting on the same copies of Super Metroid and Rocket Knight for $50.

>>6138848
I look at it as Ebay VS Retail. If you are selling on Ebay, you have no reason to drop price ever, since you aren't exactly paying overhead and staff costs and whatnot. You can afford to wait to get the most profit. If selling as a Retail store, you NEED steady business. If you don't have the constant flow of money, you go out of business due to costs. Therefor, pricing everything up to the point where you aren't getting regular business is suicide. No one has ANY reason to buy games at $10 markup over market value when they can just go on ebay and get the same thing without the markup.

Rather than trying to get $10 profit or more off of every single purchase, retail is a lot smarter to try for $1 profit off of every single purchase. People are more likely to spend more if they think it's cheap. Constantly moving changing inventory helps attract more customers, since they see it's not just the same carts collecting dust whenever they visit.

>>6138773
18+

>>6136465
>If there's less of a demand for physical vintage games than ever before, then prices have to go higher
Phrases like this get bandied around a lot, but I want you to know this genuinely might be the dumbest fucking thing I've ever read here.

>>6139628
>If there's less of a demand for physical vintage games than ever before, then prices have to go higher
>Phrases like this get bandied around a lot, but I want you to know this genuinely might be the dumbest fucking thing I've ever read here.
>About 2 results (0.36 seconds)
lrn2

Even on their death bed there not selling for under ebay prices... Stubborn to the bitter end

So, where the fuck do you buy a retro console for cheap now then?

>>6140449
Git gud at fixing them and buy broken ones on eBay for pennies.

>>6136551
And I bought an original Xbox from a couple of tweakers about 6 years back for 5 bucks. Fucking boomers overcharge everything.

>>6136772
Because it's literally one of like a handful of things you can't emulate. That I have to go that deep into shit no one cares about to even give you hardware fags a reason to exist, it goes to show you what a waste not emulating is.

>>6140473
God bless tweakers and crackheads

Who is still buying n64 stuff, people who played it when it was current would be in their mid 30s by now and you would think people that age would have already got everything they want.

>>6140475
>cringe and zoompillfaged

>>6138026
Fuck I haven't seen this in years.
What was the backstory again? Why the fuck was it in a fridge?

>>6136245
Good. Fuck resellers. Having to pay $250 for a xbox 360 game is fucking bullshit. I hope they all close and their inventory gets dumped at a goodwill were I can pay an actual fair price for a game.

>>6140486
No. Fuck them. I had some methheads break into my house a few years back and they stole my PS3.

>>6140856
>gets dumped at a goodwill were I can pay an actual fair price for a game

All their good shit goes on their online auction site, where they rape you on shipping. Anything that makes it into an actual store is either Wii shovelware or PS2/Xbox sports games.

>>6136465

You just explained the LITERAL opposite of what Supply and Demand is

>>6140875
Not all the time, you just have to get lucky. I found a Mega Drive copy of Sonic 2 in America once. There's also the "in-between" games that aren't shovelware but also aren't the rare, desirable games everyone wants, like the copy of 32X Star Wars Arcade I got for $10.

>>6141005
I was just going to say this. increasing prices in response to decreasing demand contradicts economics 101.

>>6141020
Holy shit, you found a copy of a game that sold millions. Now THAT'S lucky.

>>6141412
It would be nothing special if it were the US version, but it was a PAL version from Europe that someone imported, then found its way into a retro game store? You'd think someone who would bother importing games wouldn't really be one to just trade stuff in, as you said, most of the stuff retro game stores get is sports games and shovelware.

>>6141467
It happens occasionally. I found a PAL DS game at a flea market in Bumfuck, Texas. Who knows how the fuck it got there?

With the SNES, NES, and Genesis classics many people don't need to buy physical copies, add the fact that you can hack games on them, and it's pretty clear why it's going out of business.

>>6141005
As opposed to the FIGURATIVE opposite of supply and demand, retard?

>>6141682
not him, but he probably meant that the post wasn't just wrong about economics, but stated precisely the opposite. and 'literal' is often used as an intensifier by millennials.

>>6136465
yes

This is why we need communism

>>6141682

Yes?
Also, as opposed to "opposite" in a hyperbolic sense.
Do you not understand what words mean?
That makes you the retard.

>never heard of this site
>check and see pic related
Good. I'm glad they're going under.

>>6142035
Are you literally me? Never heard of this place, and saw those exact games prices.

Fuck this store.

>>6136581
It’s strange as Xbox 360’s are almost fully backwards compatible and those aren’t exactly valuable

>>6142108
Only about half is compatible an the majority of them run like shit or have glitches

>>6142180

One of Halo 2's multiplayer map would occasionally have a real fucked up skybox. That shit was WILD.

>>6142035
hahaha my fucking sides

good riddance scumbags

>>6137703

"boomer" is one of two things: the fat guy in Left 4 Dead, and a signal that the words surrounding it are not worth reading.

>>6142180
You are wrong entirely. Like wtf? You know this is the internet where we could easily disprove your idiotic claim?

Nowhere near half, something like 2/5th, and mostly all of them run fine with something like 2% having minor issues.

>>6142454
Ok boomber

>>6142454
They're also nuclear submarines

>>6136439
This is blatantly not true. Millennials who are just starting to make money now are in their late 20s. They were old enough to have SNES and shit.

>>6142456
Where are you getting that? Wiki says 461 out of a thousand i knows those are rough number so basically half. Just scrolling through the list of games will show that many of them have glitches

>>6136465

t. JJGames

>>6141020
This. Definitely loads of shovelware but you can find some nice stuff. If you can beat the fucking reseller swines to it.

>>6142607
29 here, i had a snes, ps1 and ps2
Was intensely jealous of my friends that had n64

>>6142607
Millennial are also in their 30's. The age range is huge which is why the labeling of generations is useless.

>>6136284
That the part I'm more concerned about. Hopefully that keeps running.

>>6136245
Good.
>>6136264
This.

>>6136465
>>6136837
>>6138773
>>6139628
>>6141005

So its worth noting here that you can in fact see increased prices with a decreasing demand, and that's because the supply curve can shift as well. If the supply of a good is falling along with demand for it, the quantity sold will definitely decrease, and the price may increase or decrease depending on where the new equilibrium is.

The thing with the retro market is that the supply has been decreasing for years. Fewer people are willing to sell their old games because information on how much they are worth has become more and more accessible, and competition has become stiffer to swoop in to garage sales and estate sales and the like to find product. Its not just that people don't still buy old video games stuff, its that the people who are holding it are way more savvy as to what they are worth, and can walk away with something like ebay taking only a 15% cut versus the 50% or 75% you lose by trading stuff in.

>>6143847
um no sweetie your wrong
27 till newborn is the millennial
hopefully the actual true next generation and change for real and break the curse

>>6144139
>sweetie
>tranny shit opinions disregarded

>>6140646
https://kotaku.com/a-fridge-full-of-jurassic-park-games-is-perfect-ebay-1706704356

>>6140856
Greedwill is more like it. Fuck them.

>>6136245
as long as based GameDude stays open the world will be a good place

>>6136245
These fuckers would always bid up auctions and win them. They bought a ton of game lots from. Always having to see them win the auction. I knew they were going to take it to their shitty site and resell it for more. I just wanted them to go to someone who was actually going to play them, not so these dickheads to milk more money out of people. Fuck them.

>>6144309
from me*

>>6136448
>It's always the same mentality with these morons. "I don't need to compete with the internet, people wanna be able to take it home with them the same day. So I can easily charge twice online prices, after all I gotta pay muh bills!" Then a few years later: "Nothin is selling anymore, I'm going out of business!"
It's because these people are fucking greedy. Hur dur I gotta have that brand new Lexus and apple watch or I haven't made it in life! No one should feel bad these retards are going out of business. They fucking deserve it for ripping people off for years.

>>6136465
And you, sir, should kindly end your pathetic life

>>6136551
That nigger wanted $100 for a fucking Xbox? You can get a 360 for cheaper than that

>>6144338
I outta get a 360 and jtag it. Play Tenchu Z again.

>>6137983
>I felt bad for the guy
You felt bad for the guy? Why? People like him are greedy pieces of shit that are ruining retro gaming for everyone else

>>6136535
Great, so you're one of those "born in the wrong generation xD" zoomers then.

>>6142035
Jesus Christ, and I should feel bad this place is going out of business? Fuck them. Those are literal rip off prices.

>>6136528
>normies get out REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I don't understand why people would be loyal to this guy if they're internet buyers (see FB comments). Ebay and literally any other non-reseller business entity will always have better deals. Why buy from these guys?

>>6144429
Because people are fucking stupid, or they HAVE to have the original otherwise it's "not the same"

>>6139628
>>6141005
>>6141360
You were BTFO by >>6144116. Cope.
>>6144328
Because I feel bad about one of the last huge vintage game resellers going under? Okay.

>>6144481
You "feel bad" these motherfuckers can't rip people off anymore? Why don't you feel bad people were forced to grossly overpaid just to be able to re-play their children games?

>>6144484
If they aren't going to rip you off, someone else will. I don't care what you were lucky enough to find on eBay for under $10, the retro game market is shit now. JJGames could have priced their inventory more competitively, but that doesn't mean I'm going to be happy for them going out of business, because that's just childish. I didn't even really know about them before this thread, but after reading up on their history I was like, yeah, this sucks. Because it does. Jobs being lost objectively sucks.

>>6144493
>the retro game market is shit now
Ever ask yourself why? I'll give you a hint; people like JJGames are a big part of the problem. So yes, if you enjoy retro you should be happy they're going out of business. Ripping people off for years and for what? So this douchebag can drive around in a fucking BMW and wear a fucking Apple Watch? Fuck this guy. Also, if he doesn't rip you off someone else will? What the fuck logic is this? So by that logic you should let me fuck your wife, because if not someone else will eventually.

>>6144504
>Also, if he doesn't rip you off someone else will? What the fuck logic is this? So by that logic you should let me fuck your wife, because if not someone else will eventually.
The point is, everyone's being ripped off. Show me a reseller that isn't scalping. Show me one that's offering Funcoland-like prices (adjusted for inflation), and I'll retract my statement.

>>6144510
And that's why these retail stores are going out of business. People are tired of being charged "mark up" prices when they can get it straight from the Amazon warehouse for cheaper. It's still not an excuse to defend JJGames blatantly ripping off people just because they can. They are getting exactly what they deserve.

>>6144504
>Also, if he doesn't rip you off someone else will? What the fuck logic is this? So by that logic you should let me fuck your wife, because if not someone else will eventually.

Kek

>>6144504
based

>>6144550
>redditspacing
kek

>>6144514
>It's still not an excuse to defend JJGames blatantly ripping off people just because they can.
Not celebrating people losing work =/= defending them. Obviously their markup is a little too high, reasons related to decreasing supply (see >>6144116) notwithstanding.

>>6144617
>assmad reseller
Kek

>>6144639
>yOu sAiD X tHaT mEaNs uR X
It's all so tiring. I'd link you to my auction history on eBay (all 3 things I've sold) but it turns out it's been so many eons since I sold anything that even PMs from buyers have disappeared.

>>6144116
>>6144481
but he didn't say decrease in supply (greater scarcity), he said decrease in demand, which would lower price&wages. of course a shift in the supply curve towards scarcity would increase price & wages, offsetting the above (although both shifts would decrease GDP), but he made no mention of that.

>>6136245
literally who stop shilling your store homo

>>6144481

But what he said wasn't a relevant scenario, retard. Relax.

>>6142035
Don't forget, these are the "fire sale, clearance, liquidation, bottom of the barrel going out of business" prices.
I hope the owner(s) end up destitute and depressed and eat a bullet where they will surely find residence in the deepest pits of hell. Fuck scalpers, fuck them to death repeatedly.

>>6145453
You seem to be confusing macroeconomic IS/LM for microeconomic supply and demand. I mean you're not wrong that >>6136465 didn't reference a decrease in supply, but I have no idea why you're bringing up wages and GDP in a discussion about a niche market.

>>6145604
Even in clearance, they are scared shitless of some other scalper buying out their stock and making a penny more than them. I hope other resellers get fucked, too. Especially one of the local ones by me.

>>6145604
Knowing this asshole, he'll likely end up destroying or throwing out all of those games and consoles he doesn't sell, just out of spite

>>6144284
That's fucking hilarious even if they wasted alot of money

>>6144303
>based GameDude

>>6145614
I think that's a problem with some of these online salespeople: they take their selling personally instead of as a simple business transaction. If they overprice their stuff, they start to view lowering prices as losing in some sort of battle of wills with an eventual buyer who is out to prove their general dominance over every seller they deal with. Cut them a deal and you're showing personal weakness, a weakness that the buyer is interested in exploiting above all else.

>>6145610
wages coincide with prices, and the amount of product sold, even in a niche market, is equivalent to GDP. the principles of supply/demand curves are consistent.
maybe that anon meant to say that increasing scarcity means higher prices, which is correct. but instead, he said decreased demand does that, which is simply not true.

Captain copes a surf a lot.

>>6136245
Not emulating is for retards. This guy finally got it.

Are there any good places to get these games that aren't scalped to high hell? The fact I gotta pay +$30 for a gameboy game is ridiculous.

>>6146850
Not really. Your best bet it to watch ebay and wait for someone to post something that doesn’t have a stupid high buyout.

>>6142035
>>6142079
>>6142448
>>6144418
>>6145604
>>6145613
>>6145614
>>6145676
y'all need jesus

>>6149073
Jesus chased the money chargers out of the temple. Now, the market or emulation/cheap flash carts (take your pick) is chasing resellers out of the hobby.

>>6142180
All of the games I’ve tried have worked fine

>wife tells me local retro store is going out of business
>50% off everything
>check their facebook
>$125 PS1/PS2/other consoles now 50% off at $62.50

Yeah....

>>6144116
Yeah because of reduced supply, not reduced demand. Reduce demand is still trying to lower the price. It's worth noting here that the poster was completely fucking wrong and nothing else.

Also it's not in your post, but the "decrease in demand = decrease in supply" casual relationship in your image isn't happening either. Retro games are out of production and reduced demand isn't slowing down the rate people find this shit in their attic and believe it's worth something.

>>6149519
>ps1
>125
>down to 62.5
>ps1
hmmmm,nmnmnmnmnmnmn

>>6145676
>I think that's a problem with some of these online salespeople: they take their selling personally instead of as a simple business transaction

The ebay threads on /toy/ are full of sellers like that howling and crying over that shit

>>6136465
>Less demand
>price goes up
What?

>>6136245
wait, people unironically buy retro games?

>>6150796
Not sure about other people, but I only buy them for pure irony.

Well, they're closed for good now. Did they ever make significant price reductions to clear out inventory as stated, or are they just moving it all to ebay?

>>6144058
https://blog.pricecharting.com/2020/01/pricecharting-is-staying-open.html

>>6151131
>https://blog.pricecharting.com/2020/01/pricecharting-is-staying-open.html
Neat!

>>6136439
The oldest millennials are almost 40 retard.

This is why piracy is important. If I didn't pay money for a game while it's platform was in it's prime, why should I give some bozo my money now? The publishers aren't benefitting from it. Opt in for repros, flash carts or hacking your console. Unless you wipe your ass with money, you shouldn't be paying these scalpers a single cent.

>muh physical collection
Just print the box art then.

>>6151825

Honestly half the value is the experience. You can find practically anything online, but that's just so sterile. Picking something up in the wild and taking it home as a trophy? At least you have fun doing that.

>>6151920
If you wanna have fun spending money, you should be going out to a theater or a concert. The only people who find value in owning the physical thing are worrying more about the materialistic aspect of the hobby and most likely don't even play video games. It's the same thing with vinyl or CD collectors. Unless you're buying it to make a digital backup, you're wasting money. Vinyls are more justifiable to have on-hand only because you won't find hi-res rips or digital re-releases of the more obscure songs. But for video games, damn nearly every game has a digital counterpart in the form of a rom or port on a modern platform.

>>6136296
Noooo not the gamerinos nooooooo!!!!!

>>6151972
>The only people who find value in owning the physical thing are worrying more about the materialistic aspect of the hobby and most likely don't even play video games.

If you don't see the value in preserving physical media, that's your shortcoming. The thing with piracy is that its prone to a shakeup every few years because there is a very active effort to stamp out digital media sharing unless you do it through the approved corporate channels.

Files get lost, sites go down, people stop seeding, and people ripping carts and disks don't necessarily pay attention to what it is they are pulling and don't label everything correctly, and that's ignoring all the stuff that doesn't emulate quite right or all the other good bits that can come with a physical copy like instruction books.

Having a hard drive full of every rom and iso you can find doesn't seem any less "materialistic". You still have more games than you can ever reasonably play. The difference is a physical collection keeps things out of a landfill.

>>6151131
>I recently announced I was closing JJGames because it wasn't doing very well financially and I wanted to focus on PriceCharting.
Grade-A pottery, the ironing is off the charts.

Fk em

>>6152002
Back to /v/

>>6150796
I have an entire physical game collection ranging from NES-Switch and a battle station for playing them, but I always tell myself "wouldnt it be so cringy if I was actually SERIOUS about buying these games?"

>>6152192
It's surprising to learn that they were owned by the same person. Did they just use PC as a base to know much they should overcharge?

>>6152640
It is funny since PriceCharting would likely have the potential to be used as a tool to determine if JJ were overcharging on something and if so by how much. My guess is that they were simply two separate userbases: people buying from JJ probably just tossed "used old videogames" into Google hoping to buy an SNES with two controllers, Super Mario World, A Link to the Past, Street Fighter II, and some random cheap game they rented as a kid, not the PriceCharting userbase who are more likely to be people who constantly browse ebay and have webalerts set up so they can find the best deals

>>6152640
Dude is probably better at scrubbing data than sourcing games is my guess. Too much work looking for underpriced goods to flip and then having to deal with the headache of making sure they are in working order.

>>6152690
Not sure if JJ operated this way, but I seem to recall discussions that sounded like at least some people had sold ebay lots to one of these megasellers. With the help of a bot and/or around the clock ebay monitoring teams, you could probably scoop up some decent bulk sets on ebay to break apart and resell (but of course you'd also wind up drowning in beat to hell copies of Madden that hardly anybody wants to buy).

>>6151127
They never gave away any good deals