/vr/ - Retro Games

>>6135640
>that a+b button placement distance in relation to the c-buttons
just use a second stick if you really don't care about c-buttons
i fucking hate zoomers holy shit

>>6135640
Abortion thread? Abortion thread.

>>6135640
Aaaaand BTFO hahahahah

>>6135648
At least they didn't totally fuck up the analog stick placement on this.

>>6135640
It's hilarious that people think having a less autistic controller will make them actually enjoy the games anymore
>God damn there is no reason to use an N64 controller ever again
Yeah, because the games are trash and have no inherent value outside of playing them for the novelty.

>>6135652
Doesn't matter. The brawler is a damn good controller. Used it all the way through F-Zero X with no problems. That game will tear your shit up if you're using anything less than perfect.

>>6135661
>the games are trash and have no inherent value outside of playing them for the novelty
Go back to /v then fag.

If your original controller is messed up, sure, maybe. But this is the better alternative.

>>6135681
Too small, and what the fuck is that d-pad placement? Playing Kirby or Mischief Makers is out.
Also more expensive and hard to find a real one that isn't a Chinese knock off.

>>6135689
It's not meant to play dpad focused games, just like the retro fighters one isn't either. Nobody gets these controllers to play N64 games with the dpad when the original N64 controller is perfectly good for it.

>>6135669
Pleb.

>>6135681
This one also got cloned.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPmpx962lXg

>>6135696
>retro fighters one isn't either.
Had no problems with it for any d-pad focused game. It's not bad. But the Hori is just unusable.

>>6135725
Not clicking your gamer thot link, but everything retro-bit is a joke.

@6135725
>"gamer" "girl"
ok um no.

>>6135681
Not really, it has issues with any kind of accurate movements. But is perfect for non platformers

>>6135640
N64 was the original creator of the "nonsensical and retarded video game controller" trope, so I don't see how it could be made any worse.

Controller in pic looks pretty decent, probably has more ergonomic use too.

It gets worse.

>>6135725
>retrobit
Not even as a joke.

What the fuck IS a good retro controller, all-purpose?

>>6135754
>2 face buttons
>4 shoulder buttons

>>6135747
>it has issues with any kind of accurate movements
Sure, it's not perfect, but are you trying to say the retro fighters one is better? There are professional smash 64 players that use the hori mini n64 pad, it's really not that "inaccurate"

>>6135749
>N64 controller is a nonsensical and retarded video game controller
No it's fucking not, you hold it one way for dpad games, and another way for analog stick games. The only thing retarded about it is how fast the sticks wear out.

>>6135731
>Had no problems with it for any d-pad focused game
OK, it's still a worse dpad than the original though so what's your point?

>>6135761
>OK, it's still a worse dpad than the original though so what's your point?
More like, what's YOUR point? Why such an irrational hate boner for a great controller?

>>6135756
>2d
-Tier 1 (Original Controller via adapter)
-Tier 2 Saturn Controller (model 2) / SNES Controller
-Tier 3 SNES Classic Controller
>3d (general use)
-Tier 1 DS4 / Wii Classic Pro
-Tier 2 Modded 360 Controller
-Tier 3 Xbone Controller

>>6135756
Just an xbone or ps4 controller. The xbone has a clicky dpad and the ps4 is softer.

>>6135778
For 3d and general use I'd definitely put the Wii U Pro Controller in tier 1
Amazing battery, good d-pad, overall great build quality

>>6135771
>Why such an irrational hate boner for a great controller?
I don't know, Why such an irrational hate boner for the original n64 controller and why such a shill for a mediocre 3rd party solution? Christ, when it came out people were acting like they could "finally" enjoy their fav. N64 games again.

>>6135640
You’re doing it wrong bro. This, combined with the Classic Controller Pro is god tier.

>>6135814
>raphnet
Huh, finally some good taste for once.

>>6135814
Nice, seems like a good option.

>>6135778
Modded 360 controller? Never seen it, or you mean chancing the trigger springs? What annoys me the most about the 360 controller is how hard the buttons are, the membrane contacts should be softer like the PS controllers.

>>6135810
I wouldn't call it irrational to recognize the wear and tear issue on poorly designed analog sticks known for getting floppy and loose with normal use, and haven't been in production for 20 years. I'd happily take a third party controller that uses a modern design for it's analog stick that can last almost infinitely longer that the prototypical first party ones.

>>6135640
Except this thing is fucking garbage, feels like cheap chink shit plastic, has horrible dead zone and inaccurate sensitivity, and when you wrap your hands around it to hold it your fingers constantly bump into the expansion port.

>>6135824
>Modded 360 controller?
Pringles lid dpad mod. Elevates it well above the xbone's dpad for comfortable heavy use.
>the membrane contacts should be softer like the PS controllers
They soften over time. The DS4's dpad is harsh straight out of the box, but after a couple of months of wear it gets to where it needs to be.
>>6135829
Both the N64 and Dreamcast had terrible sticks. The former grinding itself to dust and going limp, the latter developing unplayable stick drift in mere weeks of use. How did they get away with it?

>>6135829
exactly, people don't get these third party controllers because the dpad on their original wears out, they get them because the analog stick wears out. That's why the hori mini pad is the best. : -)

>>6135831
I'm inclined to believe this anon. The plastic looks miserably cheap.

>>6135835
Sega didn't get away, I remember people getting rid of the Dreamcast on the first months because of how awful the controller was, they were clearly cutting as much as possible, even Saturn's Nights 3D controller was a million times better.

>>6135648
>not for saturn
why

>>6135754
just about everything about that is fucked up, who designs this shit anyway

>>6135798
never did figure out how to get it working with PC

>>6135850
All it takes is one of the 8bitdo retro receivers. I use the NES ones myself. It comes with a short USB cable so you can use it on any PC. I think there used to be some issues with Macs, they may have ironed that out by now.

>>6135640
i have one and i think it's pretty nice and comfy.

>>6135878
>8bitdo
Low-tier at best.

>>6135749
>N64 was the original creator of the "nonsensical and retarded video game controller" Tropez

>>6135681
>that d-pad placement

>>6135885
It’s an adapter, not a controller. They work great. Even on Linux.

>>6135640
>gigantic d-pad right where your thumb will be resting
>dpad is used in like 2 games and very rarely is it used heavily
i hate everyone who didn't play the n64 but still acts like they know about it

>>6135814
How does this get mapped?

>>6135640
I have two reasons

Potentiometers will always be worse than the original analog stick's photowheel system

You can't use the left handle control style with goldeneye/perfect dark, so you're either going to be moving or aiming with the c-buttons or both

But the second isn't a big deal because ge/pd is terrible on original hardware anyway

>>6135648
god why

If it had uniform face button size, a second analog stick, and the second set of shoulder buttons you could emulate any game with the layout that was intended

>>6135725
Doesn't this one have a design flaw where the stick scrapes against the PCB? I mean it's a Retro-Bit controller so it's expected to have something wrong with it.

>>6136032
Yes it's a piece of shit and the sensitivity tests prove it.

>>6135945
>8bitdo laggy bluetooth trash
>working great
Hello marketer-kun.

>>6136049
what good bluetooth adapters are there for controllers

>>6136032
Not sure, I know with the brawler64 the shoulder button hit something inside and they had to fix it but never paid much attention to the reviews, was just curious to see the design.

It's not precise enough, better just stick to the original and clean it from time to time.
https://n64today.com/2019/02/17/brawler64-controller-review/

Even from the photos you can tell it's cheap.

>>6135681

It's honestly good to have this and a brawler, as each have their strengths. The Tribute 64 has a very poor R button, which doesn't matter for a lot of games. For games which require proper R & L buttons, the Retrofighter is recommended.

This is the best third party n64 controller you can get its closer in accuracy then the brawler and hori and it has a steel stick that lasts long and isnt a 150 dollars

>>6135652
Send rom so I can test my controllers.

>>6136139
Looks similar to the SuperPad64+

>>6135640
The N64 controller is one of the best ever made, not sure why there's so much hate for it.

>>6136056
Unfortunately, there aren't any.

>>6136153
>SuperPad64

GC mod.
https://forums.benheck.com/viewtopic.php?t=36609

>>6136153
I have that but it's called a "PC PowerPad Pro", and has a red and black color scheme with three switches in the middle.
It's a great controller, but the analogue unit needs replacing.

>>6136139
>>6136153
I really liked the z placement on these as a kid. Zero memory of how well they worked otherwise.

>>6136167
It looks better built compared to the PC version.

>>6136139
Stick sensitivity is horrible on it.

>>6136156
I bought it day 1 and never had any issues with the analog stick, it was only when I got to the internet I've started to read complaints about dust and wear.

>>6136174
Obviously if you never use it, it won't fail. There is no avoiding the plastic on plastic friction that grinds it apart with the stock controller.

>>6136207
Never had dust inside to the point I've seen online, I played a ton of Wave Race 64, MK64, GE, SF64, Turok, Mario 64. It depends on the type of games you played.

>>6136207
Other anon here and my stock controller from February of '97 (when it was bought) is fine (knock on wood) but my other official black N64 controller it the dust after maybe a year. To be fair I was INSANE into Goldeneye with it, but still, it should have lasted longer.
My Makapad is doing just fine, though.
Btw I played the fuck out of Shadows of the Empire and Turok with the original controller, so I'm suggesting that some stock controllers are built better.

*bit the dust
Pic related isn't my personal one, but that's one of my favorite controllers of all-time. I played many a game of Rebel Assault I and II with it.

>>6135640
Why are modern third party controls for retro consoles have such terrible build quality? The third party controllers from back in the day were almost always garbage but generally more sturdy too.

>>6135640
Why do modern third party controllers for retro consoles have such terrible build quality? The third party controllers from back in the day were almost always garbage but at least they were durable.

>>6136216
Costs have gone up, but profits haven't? I imagine with all the new regulations compared to decades ago, the manufacturers are going to ride the razor's edge of cheapassery, doing the bare minimum to pass inspection, to say nothing of being built to last.

Semi-related:
Is there any way to use a Wii U Pro controller with a GameCube?

As far as I can see the Wii U Pro is the best Jack-of-all-Trades controller, great for 2D and most 3D titles, but I play GameBoy titles via my GameCube GB Player and I don't know if it's possible to have my cake and eat it too.
Far less ideal, but I might just have to pick up a Raphnet adapter and use an older/wired Wii Pro controller.

>>6136218
Not the manufacturers, but given the lower volume they can sell than Nintendo did in the past and how little people now are likely to buy a controller that would cost $100+ to get the quality you want at that production volume, they probably made the best compromise of quality to price they could afford without taking a loss on the controllers.

>>6136223
I looked into it a while ago and no, your best bet is the Wii Pro Controller.

>>6136250
This. The classic controller pro is my favorite controller ever, so comfortable.

>>6136062
Terrible.

>>6136250
>>6136258
That's disappointing, but thanks for confirming.
Is it worth going for the original Pro with the analogue triggers, or the one with the grips?

>>6136291
I found the original classic controller's sticks too close to each other, my thumbs hit each other, the Pro fixed that by moving them further apart. Unless the game(s) you want to play depend on analog triggers, I would go for the max comfy of the Pro.

>>6136223
What makes the Wii U version superior to the Wii Pro Controller?

>>6136304
Wireless, incredible battery life, and the symmetrical stick format is brilliant because they don't get in the way when you're using the controller for 2D games. Also it has L3/R3 buttons which the Wii Pro lacks, making the Wii U Pro forwards compatible with most modern titles.
And it's just personal preference, but additionally I prefer the larger size and heavier weight of the U Pro.

I'd use the U Pro for everything if I could. The GameCube is just a weird blind spot because no one has yet made a universal Bluetooth receiver for the console to be used in conjunction with PS4/Xbone/Switch/U Pro/8bitdo/etc. controllers.

>>6136301
Classic Pro it is.
Unfortunately it looks like they're out of stock on raphnet's website. Fuck.

Thanks though.

>>6135850
I use a Mayflash adapter that was specifically made for it to connect to a PC
I'd recommend getting the NS Magic now though because it supports a plethora of controllers to use on PC (+ Switch and PS3)
It's going to be especially interesting for the switch in a few years when people hacked that thing wide open for emulation

>>6136223
Did you ever play them with an original gba and cable (not the sp)? I found it comfy as fuck

>>6136704
Sadly no.
I had the link cable, but my parents bought me a GBA SP. Not overly comfortable for long play sessions.

>>6135657
instead it doesn't work as analog stick for Saturn games at all. Games recognize it as a D-pad with 8 directional movement

>>6135725
I have a red one of these. The L and R shoulder buttons feel flimsy and don't match the texture of the back left and right Z trigger buttons. They're oddly smooth plastic and feel very cheap and distracting. But who cares, the main issue would probably be the stick. I find it absolutely unplayable for any first person shooter on the system. It's is WAY too sensitive compared to a good shape n64 stick. For things like platformers, the stick is arguably more comfortable than the default n64 stick. Feels fine in Mario 64 and Banjo games.

I never had a n64 until like 2003 but I played a lot of it at my cousin's house. And I pretty much played all of the worthwile games on the system at the time. If you are one of those people that think the n64 controller and by extension its stick is an affront to humanity, than you're probably retarded enough to buy an aftermarket controller and be complacent. In this case, the Retro-Bit n64 controller is like many third party controllers. It's a decent alternative, but in no way does it come close to an original n64 controller with a good stick.

Also people need to stop bitching about the dpad placement on this and the hori mini. There are like three games on the n64 that are viable for the dpad, and two of them are shit anyway.

>>6135681

That stick is in a fucking retarded spot. Should be higher and further to the left

>>6135648
Genesis Mini doesn't even have use for an analog stick. Why would you want to play Genesis games on an analog stick anyway?

>>6135754
>retrobit
The one thing of theirs I ever bought was an extension cable for my original genesis controllers/atari joysticks.
It works fine, but that's because it's a straight-through cable so even they couldn't figure out how to fuck it up.
>>6135878
Consoomer shill, make one with an arduino leonardo or a pro micro or a teensy.
>>6135640
Shill
>>6135892
Wrong, shit controllers existed before the 5200
>>6135928
You don't buy a hori mini for d-pad games.
>>6136060
It's better in one way and worse in others.
>>6136839
Asking the real questions.

I want to make an adapter so I can hold my 3-button genesis pads upside down and have buttons map intuitively for me. Such a comfy grip and button placement.

>>6136768
What the fuck is the point then

>>6135661
Based

>>6135648
Wait, so its just Xbox1 oem parts + some custom buttons and dpads?

>>6135652
That doesn't show the response curve.
Which is even more important, alongside even stick resistance.
Its why playing games like Banjo Tooie, its a nightmare to do basic shit like the puzzles, because you can't actually move the cursor as intended.

>>6136735
Well I strongly advice the OG advance

>>6135736
Aren't the recent MD/Saturn Retro-Bit controllers apparently really good?

>>6136139
Every Superpad ive ever got has a stick that drifts, shame as they do feel nice

>>6137907
No. Much lower build quality compared to the original using more brittle plastics.

>>6137907
What >>6138629 says is true, however when your choices are trying to get original controllers sight-unseen from ebay which might be unusably worn down, or some other companies compatible trash, the retrobit ones are perfectly serviceable.
If you can get a near mint original controller for sensible money then by all means, do that, but the retrobit is the least worst 3rd party controller I've used.

>>6135645
The N64 only has two face buttons: A and B. The C buttons are a segmented right D-pad, more analogous to a right stick on modern pads.

>>6138656
except for all the games where the c-buttons function as normal buttons
n64 has 6 face buttons just like sega saturn

>>6135648
lol they should have added rumble, a trackpad, and several other things Genesis games didn't use

>>6138654
You find an unused saturn model 2 controller for $20, but the good adapter is in the $30s, so I can see the appeal of going with the $20 purchase over $50+shipping, especially if you're going to put it through hard use.

>>6135648
>that disgusting ass xbox 360/one analog stick
>when the 3D Nights controller exists

Fight me.

>>6137907
>Aren't the recent MD/Saturn Retro-Bit controllers apparently really good?
>apparently
>/əˈparəntli/
>adverb: apparently
>as far as one knows or can see.
Apparently

>>6135843
Please do believe me. I owned one and it went dead. The second one felt even cheaper than the first and it just has an awful chinsty kind of "packaging" plastic.

>>6138625
Thats the mako pad

>>6139168
I owned one of these, it was awful.

>>6135669
fuck you

What do you think is the best overall controller for 2D games?
Or should I just buy an arcade stick?

>>6138681
Unused saturn pads are a mirage, why do you think the japanese pads are so cheap? The contacts offer no resistance, wish there was a way to revitalise the membrane contacts.

>>6140846
I've got a few that have not been used before. However,I have a few more that I've used a lot. My gaming left thumb callus is so large hard it starts scraping off a bit of the well where the D-pad sits on the lower right on Saturn pads' soft plastic over time. Once I could afford it, I do want to try out those new RetroBit controllers.

>>6140816
GBA SP/Most DS models
Good luck finding a third party controller that uses the same switch types, and even similar quality control.

>>6140892
How's that PS2 saturn controller? Anywhere near worth the going rate?

>>6140892
>have heavily gamed my entire life
>only ever temporarily developed a callus from the dreamcast's thumb-shredding stick
What the fuck, anon.

>>6140973
>PS2 saturn controller
Why don't you try them yourself? It's quite cheap! Wonder if they're the chink ones they offered in the Sega club or if they're are exactly like the SS pads with the micro switches on the shoulder buttons.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sega-Sony-Playstation-2-Saturn-Controller-Pad-Purple-PS2-From-Japan/323845027394?_trkparms=aid%3D1110001%26algo%3DSPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20190606144518%26meid%3D4554224644c243a0aea32f4f76da64cd%26pid%3D101072%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D323864072147%26itm%3D323845027394%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2546172&_trksid=p2546172.c101072.m2109

>>6135640
One thing I don't get is why they're going for an upwards of $50 - $80 on Ebay when they're around $35ish - $40 on Retrofighter's site.

>>6135652
Unfortunately it's still the best option out there, even if it isn't perfect. Every other third-party controller is even MORE sensitive and inaccurate. This one is only off by a little, by comparison.

>>6141260
Ebay and paypal jacked up fees plus ripoff fee.

>>6135652
why is it so hard to make a replacement n64 analog stick?

>>6141303
considering n64 collecting is all the rage with zoomers these days, someone could make a shitload of money making a not shitty n64 controller

Is there some sort of brain detect that prevents some people from using the oem n64 controller?

It uses different tech.

https://www.reddit.com/r/EngineeringPorn/comments/9htfei/n64_analog_stick/

>>6141485
This. It's a fine controller that needed no fix. Aside from the wear and tear that kills the joystick.

>>6141472
Its not.
Its just that replacements are OEM parts, which is currently the mechanism the PS1/PS2 analogs popularised.
Which is a steel spring of about 10g resistance, plus some sensors. Extremely simple.


Meanwhile N64 uses a very simple mechanic, and blueprints has existed for ages. Where its plastic gears moving plastic gears, and a sensor.
Its just that to make such a thing, you need to fork up whatever it costs to start mass production.
Or you could just you know...
leech of the OEM for the Xbone/PS4/Switch Pro controllers, which uses the same flawed but durable mechanism.

>>6141485
People are just allergic to the 3 prong design because "lol 3 hands", even though you never use both the D pad and analog stick in any game (besides maybe menus but that's a low intensity situation where you absolutely have time to switch prongs). Sure, it's funky, but the only thing wrong with it is that the analog sticks commit sudoku over time and get unusably loose. There is literally nothing wrong with holding the middle and right prongs and the left one with the D pad being unused, except for looks.

>>6135640
You can only play as the developers intended on a trident controller anon.

>>6141940
Why did Treasure deliberately gimp the C-button controls in Mischief makers?
They were used for boosts in each direction, but mashing the D-pad produced stronger boosts. I didn't work this out for ages and it meant that I always lost the Olympic race challenges.

I’m more convinced everyday that the N64 controller is an IQ test in physical form.

>>6136839
Is Sonic 3D Blast on the mini? One would be good for The Ooze too...I guess...

>>6135640
>that logo
no thanks

>>6139168
Yup. Love this thing

>>6140892
Why are you still here after being exposed as the attention-seeking reselling fraud you are?

>>6135640
it's a bit small, and I don't even have large hands

>>6135948
>>dpad is used in like 2 games and very rarely is it used heavily

how does it feel to be wrong?

literally ever ps1 game ported to the n64 uses the dpad, especially the tony hawk games

Can't use the left-position for the optimal way to play Bangai-O.

>>6140973
I do not know the going rate, but I do like using the Saturn for a lot of games. I think the PS2 variation is very nice with the additional select button which gives me one more function in MAME, like take screenshot (I use L to pause, R to insert credit, and start to start).


>>6141073
I play a lot of games and I prefer pad over stick for fighting games. You can see what I am referring to on the grey controller on the lower right which deomstrates a mild scraping of the area I am talking about. I have 2 more Saturn controllers which have more severe scraping given all the fighting game play I had as demonstrated when I played around with my non-main characters which tends to be charge characters (the quarter circles and half circles calluses up the thumb a lot using the Saturn pad): .
https://youtu.be/tiBrDC7XUQ0

>>6143462
To think a tree died just so you could write your bullshit notes...

>>6143502
Seethe more poorfag

>>6135652
>original n64 analog stick
>working
Nice purely theoretical numbers.

>>6143462
I think it's time to invest in a stick and practice until you can fully transition.

>>6143502
It's okay, paper is bio-degradeable.


>>6143626
I played in arcades too, but I still prefer and used control pads better.

>This entire thread
The N64 will forever be ergonomically cursed

>>6143675
Reminder that the dualshock 4 has the best ergos of any controller.

>>6143683
Bit too big for my liking.

>>6143462
Are the PS2 saturn pads like the originals? Do the L+R shoulder buttons have microswitches?

>>6143687
I recently switch from a Dual Shock 3 over to a DS4 layout controller (not an actual one) and it's so much fucking better. I also prefer that controller's asymmetric button and joystick placement far more.

but if you got smaller hands then a DS3 is probably a solid choice.

>>6143687
For manlet hands the DS2 is pretty based. I generally prefer that for souls shit because button L2/R2 soundly trumps analog triggers.

>>6143675
Honestly? N64 feels pretty ergonomic. It's just weird-looking.

>>6143462
>I do not know how to do anything but blog
FTFYK

>>6143675
Its not even that.
The joke is that back in the day you basically had 2 quality options for controllers: First party OEM, OR questionable third party shit like Madcatz.
And the good third party tended to fall somewhere between: Not Sega/Nintendo/Sony quality, but nothing obviously flawed

So if you where a guest, the host would use his good controller that came with the console, and the guests would get rather crappy third party controllers.
This joke continues to this day, its just that OEM package retail is tighter, meaning today we get shit like Afterglow instead. I still remember all the rather questionable PS2 controllers that I have tried, because you could get like 3-4 for the price of a first party OEM gamepad.

>>6144413
Superpad is still the best in this pic

>>6135640
Post a video of you walking/jogging/running around in Mario 64, and especially jumping out of the water with that knockoff joystick. MAYBE I'll believe you then.

Based: original controller
Cringe: Retro Fighters
Cucked: Hori

>>6135648
>analog stick
>genesis mini
for what purpose?

>>6144413
>all those neutered handles

>>6144602
It's mapped to digital so it acts like a dpad. As for why, maybe they had a surplus of xbone sticks and needed to stick them somewhere.

Is there any controller out there with a D-pad more comfortable than this thing?

>>6144683

Is this on par with or worse than what op has?

>>6145082
>Hyperkin
Is trash

>>6135754
>
does the right analog stick do button imputs or something?

>>6136153
I have one of those except it's got a 15 pin D-sub connector on the end of the cable for plugging it into an old timey PC joystick port like you'd get on the side of your Soundblaster card. I guess it must be for emulation back in Pentium II days, like if you're running UltraHLE or something?

>>6145192
Or the handful of fighters that were available. Even most die hard PC guys would still prefer a controller for that, though I can't imagine there was a huge market for it.

>>6145047
Shame they're fragile (microswitches get worn out incredibly quickly), they're prohibitively expensive, and there's no way to connect it to a PC.

>>6145082
Worse.

>>6135640
God bless that design.
>N64 CONTROLLER DESIGN WAS FINE!!!1
No. Just no. Straight up, nothing more than, no.

>>6136903
There's a handful of games that really benefit from analogs even though it's just 8-directional movement. One example is The Ooze.

>>6135743
Stop using that faggy app that was made by someone so secondary he thinks that 4chan uses @s and not >>s

>>6145479
Do they make any good pc game pads that use switches vs traditional buttons? Last controller I found with them was a ps3 fight pad. The back used this rubberized grip and over time the rubber broke down and became sticky.

>plays quake 2 or turok
>nudges brawler 64 stick slightly left
>character does a 180

Yah no fuckin thanks

>>6135648
I read somewhere that they fucked up the the stick input on the Genesis/Saturn version of this controller. Only registers as digital, not analog. Fucking why, that was the whole point of the stick in the first place, to be a """"modern"""" version of the 3D pad.

>>6135754
I actually bought this out of curiosity. Not bad, not amazing. Sticks feel good but the idea of sticks for NES games is pretty much retarded. A and B have a satisfying press, but are too small. D-pad slightly too big and the click is too shallow for my taste. Has an NES connector and a PC one. 5/10, didn't ruin my life

>>6135758
R1/L1 are used for alternate A/B inputs. Interesting for shmups maybe but ultimately useless. It would have been nice to include standard shoulders and X/Y buttons since it technically works on PC/PS3

>>6135754
Apparently that thing has microswitches.
Can't vouch for the quality, but I'd be interested in trying it for that alone. I'd kill for a good quality controller with them.

>>6145082
>GC style stick
Automatically shit

>>6146087
got a link to that video?

>>6143664
Sup Choiboi.

>>6146087
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m5AIIp1jww

>>6145850
What does the right stick do? Are the shoulder buttons also bound to A/B?

>>6136215
Oh Shit, I still have this bad boy somewhere. It was really good.

>>6136250
Is there a wired solution? I hate it when all batteries are drained when I want to play.

>>6141480
>>6146087
>>6135652

It baffles me too. Why is it so hard to realize that control accuracy might be important when making a controller?

There's so much shit in this space, all propped up by breathless retards making "review videos" about how "good" the remakes are and idiots buying this crap. Nobody ever shows the stick test, or tries them out in games where analogue control is especially important.

>>6135640
you make it sound like there was really a reason to pick one up in the first place.

>>6135725
>>6136032
>>6136043
I own one.
Can confirm, it's shit. The stick can't even make contact with the top right correctly.
Maybe if I disassemble it I can shave off whatever's knocking into the PCB so it'll work correctly.

>>6136032
>>6150672
>>6136043
Shaving off the right side fixes the stick rubbing against the PCB and uneven sensitivity. At least it's not a fucking box like the GC looking sticks

>>6150903
Lol how is it possible to mess up the design like that?

>>6150903
Ridiculous

At least it's fixable, unlike the fucking brawler64 retrofighter. And besides that awful problem, it's ok.
The retrofighter also has axial deadzones.
I don't know if the original N64 controller had them, but I'm guessing either they didn't, or they didn't have them as bad as this one does, because it makes games annoying to play.
I paid $40 for the Brawler64, I was hoping for better quality, bought into the fucking meme, >>6150373
this guy is 100% correct

Ok /vr/, I'm going to bed, I will attempt to return my Brawler64 Retrofighter N64 controller (got it on amazon), will post results later.


>>6135640
>>6135669
>>6135771
Do they pay you faggots by the hour?

>>6149653
Buy two controllers and keep them on rotation? Check for a 3rd party battery pack and keep those on rotation. Game play is held up a whole big 3 minutes while you swap controllers.

>>6135640
I have one and its great. The only thing I have to complain about is the d pad sensitivity. If you don't push the button all the way down it wont register your inputs but its not a problem after you get used to it. I hope they fix this problem in the future though

>>6135681
This is really uncomfortable for playing almost any rareware game or starfox. Too small and all the buttons are placed too closely.

>>6137907
Yes they are fucking great. So many fucking retards on here sucking that OEM cock.

>>6138678
Modern games use the D-pad for non-movement commands, i.e. weapon switching.

>>6137907
They're good so far, only real difference is the shoulder buttons aren't microswitched, but I think they still feel good. Time will tell if it lasts however.

>>6151848
I don't game everyday anymore and these batteries would just lose all juice after a week of lying around anyway. I want wires or at least a USB solution.

>>6143687
Tiny hands.

>>6144413
>DOCS wireless
Shitty ergonomics, shitty construction, and infrared wireless in one worthless package.

>>6152386
So you leave them on a charger when you don't play. Use one controller/battery pack while the other stays on the charger. Swap them when they die. After playing put them both back on the charger. That way they aren't drained when you want to play. They are charged when you want to play.

bump

just when I thought it might be possible to play n64 games again with ultrahdmi+new analog stick this shit happens. Fuck n64 emulation for even making me have to consider this shit.

>>6155546
This thing is a piece of shit.
Just get a raphnet controller adapter and use a classic/gamecube controller with your N64.

>>6143534
>original n64 analog stick
>working
Yes? Just because you're too retarded to find and keep one in good condition doesn't mean it "doesn't work". Why are zoomers all so stupid?

>>6155569
that's going to have the same problems.

>>6155601
No, it's actually far more accurate than any other 3rd party option.

>>6155601
Best you're going to get, short of digging into the secondhand market hoping to find a relatively unused controller.
Unless they make a N64 mini, but that's not very likely due to the console's limited library of classics (that actually belong to Nintendo).

>>6155604
>>6155624
there's also steelstick, but good luck ever getting one.

>>6155604
what makes the gamecube analog stick better than another modern analog stick? I don't care about the gate, I care about sensitivity.

>>6155591
It's defective by design. You can keep it working by not using it, otherwise it wears and it wears far too fast. By design.

>>6155704
why wasn't there a class action lawsuit?

>>6155604
Is it better than the Hori minipad?

>>6135640
>>6144413
Why the fuck do people feel the desperate need to replace their N64 controller with something else when there's nothing wrong with it?

>lol 3 handles but only 2 hands haha funney
Fucking mouthbreathers

>>6155828
Because the analogue stick gets worn out easily and people want a quality controller that isn't looser than your mum.

>>6155836
Stick wear is minimal if you don't play Mario Party 1 and aren't a troglodyte, easily over 1000 hours of gameplay before it even begins to become noticeable.
Used original controllers with tight virgin-like sticks are like 25 bucks on ebay, it's a complete non-issue, why bother with shitty third party crap.

>>6155824
Even.

>>6151123
Amazon is giving me amazon credit, which is fine I guess since I buy enough shit off amazon anyway

>>6155569
>>6155604
This guy is correct, I did the sensitivity test.
I didn't take pics; I'll post them some other time I'm about to hit the hay

>>6155704
If you use silicone grease you can easily make it last 1000-2000 hours, which is comparable to most controllers. Zoomers are dumber than fuck.

>>6141480
Here's the thing: the hipster collectors don't actually play the games.

>>6141796
There is no NEED to make replacement for the electronic parts. All we need are quality accurate reproductions of the plastic parts that wear down.

>>6156534
>There is no NEED to make replacement for the electronic parts.
Do you understand what mass manufacture is anon?
To make new replacement parts, they must be built. To do that at a cost effective manner, you need to do it at a size of scale.

Otherwise you end up with €20-50 for some casing parts, which is still pretty cool

>>6156598
no that's not cool.

>>6135754
They discontinued this one.

Anybody try this stick yet? Is it decent, or is it total dogshit like the rest of the replacement sticks?

>>6158080
Heard its shit

>>6155824
Yes.

what controller do you guys use on pc for emulating? i want something with a good d-pad but it seems hard to get that nowadays.

What about Turok?

>>6158820
get the steam one!

>>6158789
Wii U Pro Controller.
Long battery life, good ergonomics, excellent D-Pad, and can be used for modern games too. Realistically it's the best you're gonna get. Doesn't work natively over bluetooth because lolNintendo, but there are workarounds; I personally use a Mayflash adapter.

>>6158789
xbox one controller

>>6159791
this seems a good option, as i already own a wiiu pro controller, thanks!

>>6159805
will look into this one too sine a native support is nice to have too

>>6158789
I use pic related. It might be my favorite controller of all time.

>>6163285
i didnt knew this existed but it looks pretty rad. only thing bumming me out is bluetooth.

>>6163285
>8bitdo
I still can't convince my brain that a third party controller (not made by Hori) could ever be good.

>>6163352
Your loss.

>>6163294
You are gay.

>>6163352
They aren't. That one is just a shittier DS4.

Not N64 I know, but has anyone tried the Retro-Bit SEGA controllers? I ordered their Saturn pad because I am desperate for a decent USB Saturn controller but I keep hearing mixed things about it.

>>6163738
Build quality is worse than an original saturn pad, but you don't need a $30 adapter.

>>6163748
Yeah that's what I've heard. Based on the research I've done it seems like the shoulder buttons are a lot worse, the d-pad is raised a bit higher than the original, the controller itself is much lighter, and the overall feel is cheaper.
People seem to think the d-pad is still "good enough" despite not being 1:1 and I've heard no complaints about the face buttons though so I am hoping it gets the job done for my purposes.

>>6163618
how did you know

>>6163738
I own a Sega Saturn Retro-Bit controller for months now and I've had no issues so far. I think only the first batch had problems. The version I have is durable.

>>6135736
yeah but its not 100 dollars

>>6135640
i have a coloured one and i agree its fantastic but they are pretty expensive, at least to ship to canada. i got one as a gift and i loved it so i wanted to get another one but it ended up costing me like $75 CAD including shipping so i decided to pass
im really happy with the controller i got though, its great

>>6135778
So is the best 2D controller a SNES/Saturn via adapter?

>>6165661
Yes, with the caveat that if you're planning on playing modern 2d games with it as well, the snes controller won't have enough buttons for some games, while a saturn controller has 8 as modern controllers do.

>>6135880
fixed your image for ants

>>6156525
yes let me just lube up my controller so that it can perform the same as a normal controller that doesn't need special lube. you fucking retard.

>>6166281
>refusing to do minimal troglodyte difficulty tech work because it takes slightly more effort than doing nothing
zoom zoom

>>6163738
>>6163758
My controller came today.

The first thing I noticed is how light it feels in my hands compared to my original Saturn pad, but it doesn't feel cheap in the way I thought it would. The d-pad and face buttons are basically the same as the original in feel which is all I care about so I would say this is a solid controller for those that can't find or don't want to shell out for a usb adapter for the original pad.

>>6163285
I only just discovered my SNES30 works on iOS now and spent 4 hours just getting drunk and driving around liberty city in GTAIII listening to the radios. I’m wasting my life but, fuck me, I had fun. People can call me a shill all they like l but I love this fucking controller

>>6135892
Still original than 5200 lawless dust trash

How bad is an Xbone controller for 2D titles?
I'm planning on picking up the analogue pocket later this year, which touts its compatibility with 8bitdo controllers- however I'm not a fan of them. The new Xbox One S controllers are Bluetooth enabled and I figure they must have sufficiently robust compatibility given they're basically the defacto PC gamepad to cover my bases. The alternative is to get a raphnet adapter but who knows if they'll work and they're not exactly convenient.

>>6167516
It's fine, I guess. I did everything in Celeste, including all achievements and DLC with it. I used the joystick, though. Not sure how the dpad is.