/vr/ - Retro Games

>>6125571
>probably spies on you
How can they do that if your device is not connected to the internet?

>>6125571
No they're fucking stupid just buy a N3DS/N2DS or PSVita and crack them.

Both of these perfect emulation machines only 3rd worlders buy these dumb things.

If you want to play N64 games you're only alternative is to either get an N64, a Wii/WiiU and crack them or just emulate it on the PC with one of the good emulators for the console.

For Dreamcast you either deal with emulating on your PC or you buy a used Dreamcast

>>6125571
That honestly just looks like a shit PSP

>>6125626
The 3DS/2DS has a dual-core ARM11 @ 266 MHz, with 1 core dedicated for the operating system, a shitty 15 year old graphics chip, and 128MB of memory. How is this going to emulate anything other than 1st and 2nd gen shit (and probably do so poorly) because the emulators are hacky, outdated ports?

>>6125774
3DS can emulate Mega Drive and some SNES games that don't use Super FX chips or whatever, which are 4th Gen
New 3DS is a lot better with those two consoles, but yeah the 3DS isn't the best emulation machine

>>6125774
>1st and 2nd gen shit (and probably do so poorly)
2/10 will probably still get responses

Just get a 3ds or a Bluetooth controller for your android phone

>>6125774
Did I say the 3DS or 2DS? No I said the N3DS/N2DS which is the newer version of the 3DS that can play (practically perfect):

NES/SNES/GB/GBC/GBA/DS games as well as use emulators for stuff such as PS1 and various Sega consoles but I'd recommend a Vita for PS1 games

>>6125779
The new 3DS is a fantastic emulation machine if you're only going for Nintendo systems

I have an rg350 and fucking love it but get called a shill if I ever mention it here so let's just have the Android latency argument for an hour and then prune the thread.

I just bought a PS Vita

This summer's gonna be lit

>>6125814
Remember to not update to certain firmware versions

>>6125816
It's used, already updated to the last version, but already hacked

>>6125571
I personally enjoy having and using these. I'm not gonna lie playing a game on one of these is the video game equivalent of watching a fullscreen pan and scan VHS. The emulation is shit the LCD is trash and the speaker is so bad you're better off playing every game muted, but I still enjoy them. Something about having a device that lets me play a bunch of games I like at a moments notice is very satisfying (INB4 cellphones, psps, 3ds, ds, and ohmost literally anything with a battery and a LCD screen). Also its nice to have something with physical buttons

>>6125862
I'm waiting on delivery of this bad boy. It's 60 fps unless you do n64 or bloody roar 2. Also the speaker is TOO loud. The buttons and build are supposed to be good.
inb4 Chinese hurr chinese

>>6125571
They're great. I have a bunch. Sounds like you might be retarded and poor.

>>6125620
magnets

>>6125806
And Sega systems.
And NEC systems.
And Hudson systems.
And Neo-Geo systems
And Capcom CPS-1 and CPS-2 systems
And...

>>6125571
I bought a LDK game hand held. It's OK, severe frame rate issues with PS1 games, most GBA games run fine but I found NES games run very fast for some reason

>>6125626
Not OP, but I live in a shitty area(a shitty city overall) and I bought one of these as I wouldn't be losing much if I got robbed and I leave my good handhelds at home

>>6125571
I have an RG300, it's not a bad deal. It handles up to 4th Gen, neogeo, scumm, a lot of ports, and some Ps1 (mostly 2d games) quite perfectly.

Also, the last RetroFW update brought back the Tv-Out, which is a plus.

I have a $200 android tablet and an 8-bitdo controller. Can emulate up to Dreamast with no issues.
>muh latency
in a controlled double blind test I guarantee lagfags wouldn't be able to tell original system from emulator by the "lag"

>>6125779
You can emulate all SNES games on the N3DS with snes9x or retroarch

>>6125571
Android is a distro of Linux you chucklefuck.

>>6126553
Nope, by any stretch. GNU userspace defines the "linux distro" category, not kernel. And there are no GNU userspace on Android, not even glibc. Google can swap Android kernel to some BSD-derivative overnight without users noticing that.

>>6126430
I used literally 50$ Amazon Fire tablet with wired XBox 360 controller as a main emu box for some time. Everything up to gen4, GBA, DS and PS1 worked perfectly (epsxe with gl plugin is magic), N64 - only 1st-party games.

Now using 500$ Android tablet with 2 XBox1 controllers. It adds N64, DreamCast, PSP, most of GameCube, some of Wii (SSBB, Kirby), DosBox (Build-engine games in 800x600). Additionally have 2DSXL CFW for portable use (up to 4 gen emu, DS).

Opinion - OP chinese portables are garbage.

>>6126571
That would be specifically a GNU/Linux distribution. There are lots that don't ship GNU coreutils and compile with different libc implementations. Examples are Alpine and OpenWRT.
There's also a lot of native code, even on Android, so replacing the kernel is not as easy as yoyu make it out to be.

>>6125626
I have a $60 Galaxy J3 Orbit with a basic Ipega controller, and it plays N64 and Dreamcast without issue (as well as PSX).

The more autistic hipsters here like to whine about it for some reason, but Android emulation is getting up there with PC. I'll never use PC emulation for any of the above consoles again.

>>6126634
It's weird but simetimes it's easier emulating on Android then on PC. On PC the cut scenes for Soul Reaver on PS1 would run out of sync with the audio and get stuttery no matter what dump, emu, or settings I used. Meanwhile on my Android phone and tablet it ran perfectly.

>>6125809
I got an RG350 for Christmas and I like it a lot. N64 is too slow right now, and every now and then I find a rom that doesn't work but for the most part it's a solid device. I especially love the arcade emulation.

>>6126008
Mine just arrived a couple of days ago and it is good but has the speaker issue you mentioned.
It seems to be a software issue, volume is done by decreasing the gain but the range is 32% to 100%, instead of 1% to 100% before muting.
Someone is developing a custom firmware over on the Dingoonity boards called Rogue, I'm hoping this addresses the volume issue, the stock firmware is not the best.

You might want to open up the case to slightly pad the buttons. They need a lot of travel to make contact. There's a chance your unit arrives with some bonus red/blue/green/yellow buttons anyway, but you have to replace them yourself.
Luckily the device is really easy to disassemble and reassemble. The screen is actually encased in the front part of the shell so there's little risk of damaging it, only the ribbon cable is a little fiddly to re-insert, tweezers are advisable.

The IPS screen looks great but it does have a warm color temperature, which can be a little offputting if you've been used to neutral color temperature displays for gaming in general.

Play go/pocket go 2 is nice, but has several hardware and software problems, mainly due to quality control issues.

RG350 has the problem of the left analog in a retarded position.

The gkd350h has the problem of too little inputs, low ram and no gpu.

From the pack, the rg350 is the best and the play go the worst.

For lower specced devices, you have the rs97, the ldks and the rg300.
The best is the rs97 for a landscape screen and the rg300 for portrait mode. The ldks are very uncomfortable to hold (and the landscape one has shit performance).

>>6125571

RetroArch is going to have an OpenDingux version available soon -

https://www.libretro.com/index.php/retroarch-1-8-3-released/

"OpenDingux now a supported platform in the future
We have recently added support for the OpenDingux family of devices. It has been tested on an RG350 and should theoretically work on the GCW Zero as well. You can expect to see a proper release of the OpenDingux version later on. For now it can be built from sourcecode."

>>6125571
I've got this one. It can run most 2D systems fine, it uses GNU/Linux (with sources readily available), it's pretty small, and there's no shitty useless gimmicky functionality (touch screen, internet access, wireless, etc.)
That's pretty much all I want in a console.

>>6125571
Almost thought we were gonna talk about Neo Geo Pocket clones until I read the subject. If you don't want to spend a lot, there are some great videos on YouTube that recently came out and talk about PSP emulators. I can attest to PS Vita being awesome at retroarch emulation. Last time I tried 3DSemulation, I wasn't happy. If you have money, I strongly recommend getting an Nvidia Shield Portable which handles Dreamcast and older pretty good.

>>6127661
Whatttt???? Thanks for the heads up that's awesome

>>6126552
Or you can just inject them to play using the native Virtual Console.

>>6127661
So I'll be running DC games full speed with no lag on my A320 in no time, right?

>>6128383
It'll be like the psp version and only run 8-bit consoles.

>>6127661
That's fantastic, OpenDingux will get some much needed game compatibility boosts from that.
Emulators specifically developed or ported for OpenDingux will probably get the best performance, but some hacks or games tend to not be compatible.

The last time RetroArch was trialled on OpenDingux was about four years ago.
https://boards.dingoonity.org/gcw-development/(test-release)-retroarch-for-gcw0/

>>6127597
What I basically want is an RG350 that abandons the dual analogue design, and focuses on primarily d-pad inputs. That's why I chose the Pocket Go 2 over the RG350.
But I also chose Pocket Go 2 because it was an affordable, straight up improved GCW Zero.

What I'd really want to see out of future OpenDingux devices are:
>640x480 or 800x480 display, allowing for clean integer scaling of games
>Hardware mode to support legacy 320x240 mode, clean 2x integer scale with nearest neighbour, so older software is available
>Slightly larger builds. Most of these designs aim to be the size of a DS Lite / 3DS or somewhat smaller. Something closer to N3DS XL or slightly below will better accommodate more/larger buttons, larger screens, or larger batteries
>As ever, added processing power

These are all things that will make for more expensive SKUs and thus can't be sold cheaply. There's no escaping that the Pocket Go costing $65 is where the appeal is.
Back when the GCW Zero had its Kickstarter campaign, backer units cost $135.

>>6128401
>It'll be like the psp version
>and only run 8-bit consoles.

Whats the cheapest handheld that does ps2?
The gpd xd plus?

Where do you buy these? Aliexpress? That's where Amazon vendors get their stuff right?

>>6130274
I buy "these" wherever I can get the best deal. Amazon vendors don't all buy from the same place either.

Unless you're a sex offender that can't have a smartphone just get a bluetooth controller or a clip for your phone. Jesus. Your'e just paying for redundant tech at this point.

>>6130626
>bluetooth controller
eeww

>>6130672
I use an Xbox One S controller on my phone and it runs perfectly fine. But by all means, choose your preferred youtuber's "Best Retro Emulator Handheld to Buy in 2020".

>>6129942
>ps2
not retro

>>6130672
Honestly a N3DS is better than any of these shitty handhelds. As is an android phone. They can’t even run GBA or SNES well

>>6130741

>>6125809
enjoy your delayed inputs

>>6126008
enjoy your lead poisoning

>>6125571
Bro what the f**k, just tether a xbox controller to ur samsung ghetto phone, I mean d*mn -______-

>>6131158
Naw, thats gay

>>6131158
>carring an xbox controller and a phone in your pocket

>>6125626
>>6125805
based
I wish either of them had N64 and dreamcast but that's wishful thinking sadly. vita has powerstone and JSR at least

>>6133935
How good is Vita at emulating PS1, Saturn, SNES, Genesis, GBA? Accuracy, framerate, sound etc?

>>6126043
And... you’re a faggot. The N3DS is fine if you don’t care about emulating home consoles from the 5th gen.

Also CPS-2 has issues.

>>6133990
On the Vita you usually have two choices to emulate retro stuff: Natively with Retroarch or via the PSP's emulators with Adrenaline.
With Genesis / Megadrive, it's flawless with both options (Retroarch and Picodrive 1.51) ;
With SNES, Retroarch has better performance than Adrenaline's Snes9xTYLme albeit you might still run over a couple of compatibility issues with certain games;
With Saturn there's unfortunately no option as of yet to run any games on the Vita (there's still a Yabause core in Retroarch, but it doesn't work);
With GBA both options run fine, but they have too many frame drops and small audio issues for my liking;
And finally for PS1 you can convert the .bin files into a readable PSP eboot file with PSX2PSP and play them with barely any issues on Adrenaline (You can also find them pre-converted on sites like Emuparadise and CDRomance if you're too lazy).

>>6134070
gba runs full speed with gpsp core now

>>6126430
>in a controlled double blind test I guarantee lagfags wouldn't be able to tell original system from emulator by the "lag"
Anyone with more than half a brain and more than 10 minutes with the original game will notice it, especially emulation on Android, not to mention Bluetooth.

>>6134081
That's some good news at least, haven't kept up with the Vita scene since almost a year ago as i didn't held much hopes for it anymore, not to mention how i've been using the PSP Go much more often than the Vita.

The point of something like the Odroid GO Advance is that it runs Linux, is open source, and has the second largest community supporting it after the Raspberry Pi so it'll be supported for a long time. By the end of the year it'll run more systems than any other handheld including things like DOSBox. You can use it as a portable media player as well to get more value out of it.

It's a shame they're using the RK3326 with a quad core A35 @ 1.2 GHz and 512MB DDR2, if they used a more modern ARM quad core with DDR3 and VP9 decoding support it could run anything 5th gen or below smoothly along with some Dreamcast games. One of those big.little ARM processors with 2 beefy cores would be awesome seeing that almost everything is single or dual threaded. Even just a high clocked dual core would be better. How the fuck does DDR2 make sense in 2020?

All the Chinese consoles run a crappy dual core MIPS CPU with outdated, hacked together ports of emulators for MIPS and Dingus and get shoddy support, if they're even supported at all after release.

>>6134391
That's the main thing keeping me away from third party handelds like this: The overall performance.
If they can't emulate much requested consoles like Saturn, N64, and Dreamcast no matter the firmware and emulator updates, then why bother getting them for 4th gen stuff and below when i can easily buy a PSP for just $10 at the nearest pawn shop and be done with it?

>>6134418
That's what I was thinking. The RK3326 is a 2018 product based on a 2015 ARM core designed for fucking IoT and almost all of these handhelds use DDR2 which came out in 2003. DDR3 came out in 2007 and DDR4 in 2014. DDR5 is coming out this year. Most of the better chink handhelds are using a MIPS based JZ4770 from 2011. Some even use the JZ4760 from 2010.

With DDR5 coming out this year DDR4L should come down in price and DDR3L will become a commodity. With 5nm coming this year and already having better yields than current 7nm and 3nm expected in 2021-2022 by then 3nm should be for the high end, 5nm will become mainstream, and current 7nm will become pretty cheap. I don't have the specs of the RK3326, but it's probably 28nm.

Hopefully Odroid releases an updated model 2 years from now that finally solves the performance issues. The hardware to emulate Dreamcast at full speed is already fairly inexpensive now, by 2022 they should have no excuse not to use it. We should also get much better battery life once we're not using old shit. I'm assuming they're using Rockchip and Ingenic chips along with DDR2 because they're Chinese companies and likely dirt cheap.

>>6129942
No Android tablet does PS2, you should look for a Windows tablet or laptop

>>6127597
>RG350 has the problem of the left analog in a retarded position.
Blame Nintendo, it can't figure out where to put an analog stick

>>6125805
N3ds can't run super mario rpg

>>6134391
>>6134512
I got some things mixed up. It's actually 1GB of DDR3L, not 512MB of DDR2... my bad.

They updated the spec sheet and now it's going to be clocked @ 1.3 GHz rather than 1.2 GHz.

>>6135243
you sure?

>>6133935
Get that Vita on 3.65.

>>6127994
How comfortable is this to hold, my dude? I want something just like this to play some GBA strategy games and RPGs on the bus, but I'm scared it might be to little

>>6136194
Why the fuck would you?
3.60 runs everything. You should only be on 3.65 if your factory firmware is above 3.60 and can't downgrade

I bought a Vita as a retro emulation console but ended up playing Vita games

>>6134035
Well, looks like someone's mad. Also, I've played all CPS-2 injects and I've never had any problem with them.
Hell, I've played crazy intense games like Last Blade or King Of Figthers without any problem either.

>>6133990
Played FF5 and 6 recently on my Vita through retroarch snes9x 2003 version (only version that didn't have horrific ear rape). At that point, you are basically playing a retro emulator. Looked great on the Vita Screen, played fine. Sound was fine through the Vita speakers. Plugged in directly to speakers, it sounds like garbage compared to a real SNES.

>>6125571
Can you say you exist if you don't know that world is real?

>>6136654
Yes. I can say I exist even if I know the world isn't real. I can say you're not a retarded faggot even though I know you are. Can you say Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers?

>>6125571
how many triggers does the odroid go advance has? I've heard its cpu should be perfect for ps1, but it goes in the trash if it only has 2 shoulder buttons

>>6125620
>no tinfoil hat

Is the Vita homebrew scene still active? Last I checked there were a ton of /vr/ PC shooter ports being worked on by a couple different guys. I remember being amazed that Quake II ran at stable 60 fps at native Vita screen resolution.

>>6136654
Very deep anon.

>>6137090
2

>>6137102
It has slowed down, but it seems like something new comes out every week.

>>6136654
I know I exist because I can observe myself thinking.

>>6136268
See
>>6126008
It's the most ergonomic in my researched opinion

>>6125571
I think they're not /vr/

>>6137235
Why not, it plays retro games. Is it because it's not from the 20th century?

>>6137235
Of course they are. Their raison d'etre is retro vidya.

>>6136393
>You should only be on 3.65 if your factory firmware is above 3.60 and can't downgrade
all current fw-versions can be downgraded.

>>6137176
>2
oof

why

>>6137235
Neither are you

>>6140309
>no u

>>6125571
just get a psp

>>6134391
>All the Chinese consoles run a crappy dual core MIPS CPU with outdated
Some do have a double A72+A53, but are pretty much just android boxes with a screen.

>A35
Which is actually a recent design.
Low power consumption and cheap.
Good enough for most retro.

>MIPS
Low power consumption and cheap.
It's enough for most retro.
Stuff like Saturn, and N64 require much stronger hardware and those Chinese retro handheld assemblers don't have the economy of scale to offer them cheaply.

>>6140731
>Some do have a double A72+A53, but are pretty much just android boxes with a screen.
Do you know of any non-Android based ones?

Regarding these handhelds, I have to say that the best is the rg350. It's only problem is the placement of the left analog and the fact that the analogs protude a bit too much from the case. It runs everything up to and including PSX.
Now it's also possible to get network access and play some quake over wifi for example. Hdmi support should come ((soon)) which is a load of bullshit imo.

For something slightly smaller you have the rs97 which is very good when modded with a big battery, but it's not as powerful.

Another nice one is the pocket go (pic related), but it has a massive problem with screen tearing because the chinks are retards. Has a great physical format though.

Play go is good but has quality problems and more thsb half of the units yave issues with the casing, buttons, sound, etc.

The gdk350h is more powerful than the rg350 but lacks some hardware that limits scaling and low ram which is bad for more memory heavy games like quakes, which causes swapping to the sd card to occur (and it tanks fps).

Vita is very good and runs a lot of stuff but has problems with snes and other emus, and lacks l2/r2.

The 3ds is great at anything nintendo and a bit more, but horrible for playstation and such.

Stuffing a rpi inside a case is also a possibility, but it ends being extended expensive and likes to eat batteries which sucks in a handheld. Forget the zero, as you can get something that performs better for less money.
The psp is old news mow, although it was fantastic in its time.

The upcoming odroid go advanced seems to be a great handheld, but I think people will have to hack it and add l2/r2 in the gpio (and configure all the emulators to use those). The dpad compared to the abxy buttons also seems strange. The dpad seems to small or the abxy buttons too spaced out. The xy and ab clusters are also vertically and horizontally misaligned for some retarded reason.

>t. own psp, rs97, rg350, 3ds and have also gamed on vita, playgo, gdk350h, rg300 and ldk horz

>>6141056
>Hdmi support should come ((soon)) which is a load of bullshit imo.
Whoa, what, it's not there already? That sounds fake but I believe it

>>6141218
The devs haven't implemented it yet.
The only implementation available is a shitty one from the gcw0 era that doesn't support scaling. Imagine playing with a centered 320x240 image in a 1080p or 4k panel

>>6141056
>Vita is very good and runs a lot of stuff but has problems with snes and other emus, and lacks l2/r2.
snes has been fine on vita for a long time now. stop using ancient versions of RA.
Also L2,R2 grips exist and you can map the sticks or touchpads for them

>>6141363
Even superFX games?
How's smw2? And starfox?

>>6141363
SNES is not fine on Vita. First off, the best Snes9x core it can run (2005) isn’t full speed even for some non-special chip games. And games that do use special chips aren’t even full speed on the 2002 core. Not to mention there’s plenty of graphical glitches and incompatible games.

Also I’m using the latest nightly from today.

>>6140538
>just get a psp
Don't fall for it, emulation is shit

>>6141363
>>6141420
Final Fantasy 3(6) has the same graphic glitches I remember from ZSNES back in 2000 on Vita. Transparencies are missing in overworld, sprites don't disappear under the menu or text boxes.

Still better than suffering through the Playstation version, though, and the Vita screen is great.

>>6141470
right and this is fine

>>6141420
stop lying most snes games work fine on 2005 core

>>6142282
How about you stop having low standards

>>6142290
how about you generalize a whole system running slow because in certain areas of certain games the fps drop to 55 fps

>>6142295
Having frame drops in such an inaccurate core is unacceptable. The Vita is an amazing piece of hardware, but it’s software is simply lacking.

Are there any portables that can do Dreamcast (or better yet Saturn) well yet?

>>6142309
GPD Win 2.
Alienware UFO. :^)

>>6142320
Forgot to mention, no GPD WIN stuff.
I used it, and its too bulky and eats through battery way too fast even with energy conservation tweaks, and the battery can't be swapped easily, which is a big downer for me.

Many of the other chink handhelds however use old Nokia BL batteries of which I have a few, and can be swapped.

>>6142309
MOQI i7s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxGzXGoPpO0

Consistent 60 fps all the way. Its even powerful enough to run the PSP GoW. Its almost 400 bucks though.

>>6142306
we all agree it's not perfect, but it's far better than what we got on psp.

>>6142347
Which isn’t saying much. You can just get a N3DS for the same price and get stellar SNES emulation.

>>6142367
and yet it depends what you want to play on your retro device, because in that case you can't play psx games either with the same smoothness, i do have both anyway, but the vita screen and controls are far better and except some snes games it can run all the retro games the n3ds can do and more.

>>6142378
GBA is also really poor on Vita.

>>6142445
Not after the recent update to the gPSP Retroarch core. Update with overclock allows emulation with no frame drops and fast forward.

>>6125774
New 3ds has a pretty cozy PS1 emulator and hardware support for running GBA games but really the games you'd want to emulate like oot you can just pirate the port for ngl

>>6142449
Really?

Oh shit time to do my yearly playthrough of BN and Z series

>>6136476
>CPS-2
>mentions two Neo-Geo games as example
Please don't bother pretending this error was on purpose and just stick to talking about things you understand.

>>6140784
No, don't think those exist yet.

>>6141056
Using the back or front top corners on the touchPad for l2 and r2 along with the bottom corners for l3 and r3 works well for me. For the vita though, I bought a cheap 3 dollar grip that makes it more comfortable to hold

>>6142449
gpSP is an abysmal emulator regardless of performance. Glitches galore, hilarious shit like the FF6 overworld running at a ludicrous speed when riding a Chocobo. Same deal with Swanky’s Dash in DKC3; 3D that runs way too fast. Lots of games with anti-piracy checks won’t let you play. Lots of games are simply incompatible because of how inaccurate the emulator is.

You’re really better off playing on a N3DS unless you want PS1 emulation.
>overclocking
You don’t need to overclock for gpSP. Anyway, why would you overclock a portable? You’re neutering the battery life.

>>6142813
bullshit, here is your you.

>>6142525
He didn't say they were CPS2 games, note the word "either". You should make an effort to be more understanding of others.

>>6142840
Great argument with tons of evidence.

>>6142849
Just because PS1 runs fine on the Vita, doesn’t mean SNES does. See why using examples from the same system is important?

>>6126008
>>6125571
>>6126412
>>6127994
>>6141056

So many different options, but they're all cheap chinese products. Is there something preventing a company in the civilized world from making a competing device, perhaps at a more premium price point? Like >>6134391 was saying, these chinese ones are generally underpowered and have poor quality assurance.

Selling emulators in its own right doesn't seem to be illegal as long as you don't include ROMs. And if it were, you could just sell the console with no emulators installed and let users find them on their own. So is the issue that its infringement on the physical appearance of existing handhelds? Surely as long as it's unique enough looking, it's not a problem?

In other words, are there laws preventing most companies from from making their own handheld emulation console?

Or what about doing what Retroflag does and selling raspberry pi cases that look like gameboys and SNESes? Would Nintendo lawyers go and commit sudoku on them if they weren't safely in china?

If the screen is 3.5", how big would that make the GBA screen size? Anything smaller than the micro's screen would probably be too small really

>>614377 if you want an integer scale, I reckon it’d still be a little bigger than the GBA’s screen.

>>6143016
I had an idea for something like that, the idea would be to make an android game handheld with built in controls, it would be sold as a way to play remote games from PC and could services and the cloud, but since it also runs android, it can play android games and also the emulators.

>>6142862
your evidences are bullshit

>>6125774
The worst part is that the original 3DS is still significantly more powerful than the original GP2X and yet the emulators for it aren't nearly as performant. We've really dropped the ball on software optimization.

>>6144160
It’s the cold hard truth.
Keep crying, Vita fanboy.

Here's a good first look of the ODROID-GO Advance that just came out about 20 minutes ago.

JewTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52F7egAL9Vg
Invidious: https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=52F7egAL9Vg

>>6145331
truth of what, hey guys i am a multi billionaire, here is my evidence, if you don't believe me it's because you're a nintendo fag

>>6143016
White people have too much money to waste, they'd rather pay for nintendie's official cloud switch gaming subscription.

>>6145826
People are irresponsible with their money.

t. Poorfag hu-white anon who only buys second hand shit.

>>6145831
Same shit is happening in japan, maybe in an even worse way. Braindead nintendrones and gatcha players don't give a shit about low cost retro gaming.

>>6145845
What's happening in Japan that's worse that the US and Western Europe?

This is why the Eastern Europeans need to make this shit. They're poor but actually good with computers unlike Pajeets.

>>6145861
>What's happening in Japan that's worse that the US and Western Europe?
Consumerist culture and bottom of the barrel mobile gaming like gatcha cancer.

>>6145879
>gatcha cancer
I had to look that one up. The Japanese have gotten too soft and need to go to war. They make Western soibois look like chads by comparison.

>>6126792
Just got this as well, u can chage the master volume in the emulator, i noticed some buttons take multiple presses to register like the down and x button

>>6136268
The d pad is nice and big, buttons are not too bad, im playing dino crisis 2 on it with no problems but have to disable the analog control for the select button to work

>>6126792
how do u tweak the travel for this?

>>6146015
On the contrary, I think they've seen too much shit and they don't give a fuck anymore.

>>6146105
sorry replied to the wrong anon, was talking about the new pocket go

>>6143861
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shield_Portable
>nVidia Shield Portable
Done in 2013. Sadly no new 64-bit ARM Tegra shield on the horizon AFAIK. Though, that's basically what the Nintendo Switch is.

>>6146135
Sadly, they're $200+ used devices and (IMO) ugly as sin.
A Switch Lite is $199 new.

>>6146112
The d-pad and buttons have small holes in the back from the moulding process, you can put a small bit of paper in there to slightly extend the length thus decrease the travel needed to press the contacts.

The actual rubber contact pads used for the d-pad and buttons aren't great, down the line I hope that future units produced improve on these with a new mould and adjusted contact pad.

>>6146101
Not all emulators have master volume controls sadly, I'm still hoping that a master volume control on a system-wide level would be achievable, but I've seen that there is a simple tape mod that can reduce the speaker's volume output, but I'm worried that it does so by distorting or muffling the audio.

>only modern handheld is the switch pro
Where did things go wrong?

>>6148147
Smart phones filled the void, people wanting dedicated gaming experiences focused on console and PC.

>>6125571
what's the cons to buying a 3DS LL, changing the region, and placing Homebrew Launcher on it?

I never owned a 3DS, how difficult would this be?

>>6125571
why do we have ten of these threads a day?

>>6146141
You can’t hack a Switch lite to play retro games, only buy expensive compilation packs.

>>6145809
Absolute state of your cope.

>>6142306
nigga just overclock

>>6142813
>You’re neutering the battery life.
playing jak 1 while overclocked I lost like 20 minutes of battery life overall compared to normal. It's not that big a deal, the stock clocks are way too conservative

>>6149923
I don't find smartphone gaming that appealing since games usually drain the battery of the phone more than other stuff, leaving me with less resources for other smartphone related things.

>>6150175
You’re still putting up with what is essentially a retro emulator. So, no thanks. I’ll stick with the N3DS’ far superior VC.

>>6150193
that's a hot take you got there, fag
there's too many different variables, but if your phone has a decent enough processor, and the game isn't too intensive, then battery life isn't an issue unless you have the brightness at 100

>>6150259
nintendo's solution has just as many innacuracies and doesn't support chip games at all though

>>6150381
Nope. Audio emulation is MUCH better, graphical glitches are pretty much non-existent and it supports nearly the entire non-special chip section of the library. Comparing it to Snes9x 2005 is just blind fanboyism.

Also Bubble2k’s Snes9x port at least runs all special chip games full speed WITH insane fast forwarding. Something the Vita can’t achieve even with overclocking.

>>6150386
there's no reason to use 2005 when the more recent snes9x cores run fullspeed with an overclock.
again, the vita is technically rated for 1ghz, overclocking it to 500mhz is no big deal.
Obviously for gba the 3ds wins because it runs the games on actual hardware.

>>6150390
The most recent core it can run is 2010 which can’t run full speed with overclock.

>>6150396
the only games I couldn't get to run fullspeed on 2010 are chrono trigger (just the intro the rest is full speed up to going to the castle in the past) and star ocean

>>6150401
You must have only played each game for a few minutes then.

>>6150404
I beat megaman X on it,

>>6150405
>Admits to not playing most games for more than a few minutes

>>6150410
What games have dramatic shifts in performace? Again, I beat megaman X on it and it was fullspeed throughout.

>>6150412
SC IV. Contra 3. Super Star Wars.

>>6150418
SCIV is fine including the mode 7 stage, unless you're confusing it with actual game slowdown. I don't know about super soi wars but contra 3 also has slowdown on actual hardware.

>>6150428
2010 isn’t accurate enough to emulate hardware slowdown. When the fast forward feature stops working as it should, it’s the device’s lack of power causing the lag.

>>6150471
nigger what the fuck are you even on about?
Turn the fps counter on

>>6150525
I always have it on nigga.

I found all my old DS games and my DS lite, but when i tried playing them all it seems almost all the cartridges just don't work anymore. A few of them ran on my 3ds but the ones that did would not work on the ds lite, so i assume it's just dead, and that most of my cards were dead, which is upsetting as i really wanted to play explorers of sky again. I know the R4i gold is best, but upon doing research i saw a lot of people saying how they had major issues when playing games, including mystery dungeon (sky). is this the fault of the emulator, or the fault of the r4i? and what happens when you are forced to save ingame? or if it freezes? i just wanna play pmd sky

>>6125571
Is there nowhere left to preorder this thing besides ameridroid and its expensive shipping?