/vr/ - Retro Games

Somethings wrong with your hands.

So I have a Sega Naomi, I'm debating building a fight stick box that is selectable jamma, USB, and jvs. Trying to do too much in too little space? Is certainly technically feasible. Just have the 2 io boards for jvs and USB and a jamma connector. Just need a way to switch all the buttons from one cable to another easily.

>>6084789
Are you talking about one of these? There should be plenty of room to stuff some more boards in there. Not sure what to recommend for switching.

>>6084789
Should be easy enough to get everything in there, but I'm not sure what a good way to switch would be. I guess you could wire up some harnesses and physically plug in to whichever you wanted to use. Kind of a hassle but it wouldn't really be that bad.

I use a 6 pound spring

>>6084842
No wonder the jannies delete your posts about it

Has anyone tried the LS 56 or LS 60? I have found a few tables comparing spring weights and stuff but It's hard to visualize how they will actually feel compared to the ls-32 and the ls-40. I think I might like the 56 more than the 40. I guess I should just buy one. It's nice that they aren't very expensive.

Also has anyone tried the rg version sanwa buttons like the Sanwa OBSF-30rg? The ones with the massive switches? I'm wondering if the feel different from their standard buttons.

>>6084842
Have you tried the Korean style joysticks? They have a rubber surround around the shaft that makes them really snappy and high resistance. They are usually used for 3d fighters but you might like them if you use such strong springs.

>>6084789
>>6084840
These guys have some connectors up to 18 pins, that should be enough to make a swappable harness.
https://akishop.jp/products/amp-connectors

>>6084914
I have an ls-32 and and ls-56. 56 feels somewhat stiffer and has a shorter throw. I stuck an oversized actuator into it and there's near no dead zone, can hardly move the stick without pressing a microswitch. Which is exactly how I like it

I mostly play shmups and other arcade games though, I'm not sure how it'd fare for fighters

>>6084998
Thanks that's just what I was wondering about. Are the shaft lengths the same or is the 56 taller?

Does anyone know the cheapest and most effective way to get rid of metal tabs on arcade stick metal panel?
I got this arcade stick that I want to mod, but the buttons are held in with metal tabs.

I heard I could just get a dremel and grind them off, but I'm not sure how to go about that.
I don't know what kind of tip or what kind of dremel to get.

Also, what kind of material could I stuff in the enclosure to silence the joystick?
I want to play fightcade late at night without getting complaints from neighbors.

>>6085080
Forgot the pic of the stick I have.

>>6085083
Metal tabs? That's just a Hori rap3 isn't it? Buttons are just normal sanwa copies as far as I remember.
Gotta pic?

>>6085080
You know that you pop the buttons out of the front right? There should be same tabs on the back that you squeeze in and then you just push them through.

>>6084705
Prefer seimitsu by self, but with a much lower degree of autism.

>>6084737
>hands
That's not how you spell head

>>6085156
>Prefer seimitsu my self
What stick do you use? Do you also prefer seimitsu buttons?

>>6085156
lower IQ too, obviously

>>6085256
Are you going to participate in the thread or do you prefer to strut around like some faggot peacock and crow about your superiority?

>>6084705
>I wish the throw was a tiny bit longer
nigger, the smaller throw is part of the appeal.

>>6085090
No, it's modified so that consumers couldn't modify it like their standard HRAP3.

t. also have one and tried to mod like my other HRAPs.

>>6085307
Fuck that's annoying.

>>6084705
yeah Sanwa parts is just some Street Fighter meme shit that is godawful for anything but 2D fighters

>>6085403
I do like sanwa buttons more than seimitsu buttons.

>>6084705
I play shmups with iL Magnetic Joystick. I changed microswitches to Omrons V and slightly moded pivot to remove looseness.

>>6084705
Seimitsu sticks with Sanwa buttons.

>>6084705
I have a JLF as well but never used any Seimitsu product. With the Sanwa I tried different mods however:

I used a 1mm oversize actuator for a while which I definitely enjoyed as it speeds up your play for sure. After a while though I grew tired of it because it also shifts the size of the actuation zones in favor of diagonals. In comparison to the default actuator it becomes easier to do diagonal inputs but horizontals and verticals are harder to hit. That started to bother me with time and so I took it back out.

I also tried a 2lb tension spring but I don't have many good things to say about it. Don't get me wrong. It works - when you let go of the stick from full throw it doesn't hit the opposite switch or anything. But it definitely felt like it was slowing me down. Tried it with both actuators too. Just wouldn't do it for me. It feels snappier, you might subconsciously associate that feeling with a sturdier build quality and therefore prefer it. But my guess is that, in reality, it's slowing you down.

It's all a matter of taste really and they're not bad mods to do but they're probably more suitable for shmups rather than fighters.

I have an octagonal restrictor gate as well but never used it thus far. I know I wouldn't like it. I think of a Shoryuken as an angular C motion more than anything.

>>6085452
Oh uh, tl;dr
Mods are cool. I'm back to the stock JLF though. No mods inside my stick.

Bought Suzo 500 for like $10. Changed Switches, but its a bitch to mod. I really need custom shaft to install it properly but I don't have access for CNC machine. For shmups only of course. To be honest you can "master" any stick but it takes time

>>6085452
Yeah I tried the same mods and had basically the same experience that you did.
>>6085426
>>6085465
I'm surprised to see people using happ and il sticks for shmups. I thought the basically only existed for mortal kombat nostalgia fags and were garbage for anything else.

>>6085489
>laughs in less than 4mm throw and 2,5mm switch activation

>>6084989
Weird, like the Atari philosophy refined. I don't know if I'm willing to make such a huge hole in any of my panels to test one out but you've given me something to think about.

>>6084853
I actually have a 9# spring that I decided was too heavy if that makes you feel any better.

>>6085642
They make some now that use regular Japanese mounting plates and are basically drop in compatible. Pic related is made by crown.

>>6085678
Can you buy just that collar? That one looks like it could fit a JLF type stick but I guess I don't know what's happening underneath the mounting plate

>>6085595
Cool I will have to read up on that.

>>6085684
Yeah you can but just the grommets, I don't think it would be easy to jerry rig something since the sticks work differently, the Korean ones don't use a spring at all. Here is a link with some of the sticks and parts.
https://focusattack.com/joysticks/popular-brands/crown-samducksa/

Is hating sanwa the new contrarian meme opinion?

Lately I've been using lever-modded Hayabusa or grommet mod Sanwa with Hayabusa buttons.

>>6086090
>grommet mod sanwa
Do you have a link for this? I tried searching and found one post where someone had done this, but I couldn't find a tutorial.

>>6086089
Op here, I don't hate sanwa jlf levers, and I prefer their buttons, i just liked the feel of the seimitsu ls-40 better. It's really a fundamentally different product so they aren't really direct competitors.

>>6086179
Didn't nessecarily mean you it just seems to be the opinion in thread.

>>6086174
Otto DIY V2 kit with ButterOJ spring delete. It's a shame that some kind of spring delete wasn't included because the total cost of the mod is kind of dumb.

>>6086196
thanks anon

>>6085214
Most of my sticks are LS-32/40. If you want a stick as loose as yo mama try a LS-32.

>>6085403
but seimitsu was the ST and 3s stick you fucking retard

So has anyone tried both an ls-40 and an ls-56 or 58 or 60 (apparently they are all the same but with different spring weights. I'm interested in how they compare. Especially throw distance and shaft length.

>>6087494
Throw and microswitch activation is about the same - 7,5mm and 4mm. Shaft is marginally longer in 56, but honestly it's hard to feel the difference. LS-56 has only sqare restrictor and you can't use that fucking seimitsu's yellow-piece-of-shit-gate with it.

>>6087705
thanks anon. I'm fine with just a square restrictor and I sure as fuck won't miss that yellow shitbox. I guess I should pick one up.

>>6086089
It's not that I hate Sanwa nor do I think they're shit, because they're definitely not shit, but I just vastly prefer Seimitsu. I first got a JLF and used the hell out of it, then when I decided to change out my parts, I deviated from the norm and got an LS-32 instead with different switches and I prefer it a lot more. The increased tension makes it more comfortable in my opinion. Same with the buttons. When I play fighting games, I thought that my arcade stuck was fucking up because the game was doing commands that I thought I didn't input, but as it turns out, Sanwa buttons are really sensitive, and I mean extremely sensitive; just a slight graze of your finger is enough to register an input. Seimitsu's buttons are nowhere near as sensitive, so I can rest my fingers on them without me jerking my fingers about and causing an unnecessary input, yet they're still tactile enough to be pressed slightly enough to register an input.

Seimitsu just makes all different kinds of products for all kinds of applications to suit various different needs. It's not that Sanwa is shit or Seimitsu is better; it's all about a matter of preference and Seimitsu fills that role for me.

>>6088265
Nice, do you notice the stick lifting slightly in the corners that I have seen some people mention about the ls-32? I'm guessing it's not an issue but I have seen a few comments that it felt weird.

>>6086302
NP anon hope you enjoy it. If I could stick levers on the microswitches it would easily be my fave.