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>The overall narrative and tone of Majora's Mask is perfect, but the gameplay is too hampered by the bullshit clock system to be enjoyable.
Was James right, /vr/?

>> No.6068963

it's a shitty meme game.

>> No.6068965

>>6068960
It's an opinion, of course it's right for him.

>> No.6068976

>>6068960
Just sounds like a case of him not wanting to GIT GUD.

If you ever were fucked over by the 3-day limit, you should quit videogames forever.

>> No.6068980

>>6068960
>Whiny faggot doesn't want to work to beat the game

>> No.6068986

>>6068960
He was absolutely right, but personally if a game can evoke a mood, or tell a story well, I'm much more likely to accept games that aren't traditionally "fun" if it helps them get there. Majoras Mask's mechanics are cumbersome, but the final product justifies those mechanics so it's still a good piece of art, if not a good "game".

>> No.6068989

>>6068986
I have almost the polar opposite attitude.

>> No.6068991

>>6068960
You get more than enough chances to reset time if you really need to. Every new song or dungeon item is a secure milestone, and you can safely reset after those.

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You know I had to sage and report it to em.

>> No.6069000

>>6068960
I agree the clock shit was annoying. I don't know that I'd call the "overall narrative" of the game "perfect." I like the idea of having a weird Zelda game where everyone a couple days away from dying constantly and it's also an unreal nightmare world Link slips into after falling and either dying or just hitting his head badly. But the villain wasn't all that interesting and his agenda was just "I'm inexplicably angry so I'm going to kill everyone."
I was a lot more into the story with Ocarina of Time. Really high quality modern visuals weren't a thing at the time so you have to keep that in mind when I tell you how impressed I was with the whole cinematic experience after buying and playing that game when it came out. The Navi scene at the beginning was actually super-exciting even though now when a zoomer looks at it they probably think it's cheesy and lame. I was emotionally invested in Saria and the Great Deku Tree and all of it from the very beginning. And I really felt like I was in this fantasy forest world because it was more realistic and had more depth to it than any other game I had experienced before then.
Ganondorf and the three Goddesses / triforce lore and cut scenes were compelling to me too. I was always excited to see where things were going every step of the way and finally getting to confront him at the end in that cool gigantic malevolent as fuck castle where he's just playing a pipe organ and Zelda's trapped in that pink diamond looking thing was much more of a payoff than anything I got out of Majora's Mask. MM just seemed like a letdown to me after OoT.

>> No.6069001 [DELETED] 

>>6068996
MM is /vr/ range though. Anything on N64 is. OP's thread seems fine to me.

>> No.6069005 [DELETED] 

Officer Maggot requesting nigger dick backup. Repeat, request nigger dick backup, over.

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>>6069005
10-4, nigger dick backup is en route. Sit tight Officer Maggot, over.

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>>6069006
NIGGER DICKS ARE HERE!!!!!!! BOMBS AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>6068960
WAS JAMES RIGHT TO LET HIS WIFE SUCK THIS NIGGER COCK???????

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>>6068963
IT’S A BBC!!!!!!!!

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>>6068965
THIS NIGGER DICK IS RIGHT FOR MY ASS!!!!!!!!!

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>>6068976
JUST A CASE OF WANTING TO SUCC GOOD!!!!!!!!!! BBC THAT IS!!!!!!!!

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>>6068986
THE PEEPEE POOPOO MAN SAID ASS!!!!!!! MOM COME LOOK!!!!!!!! XD!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>6069000
THIS POST IS LONGER THAN A NIGGER COCK AND THAT’S SAYING SOMETHING!!!!!! DIDN’T READ LOL!!!!!!!!!

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>>6069001
THIS NIGGER COCK SEEMS FINE TO ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>6069026
I LOVE WHEN THE PEEPEE POOPOO MAN SAYS A BAD WORD!!!!!!! LIKE SHIT OR FUCK!!!!!!!!!! IT’S SO FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>6068980
>WHEN THE WHINY FAGGOT BEGS FOR BBC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>6069030
PEEPEE POOPOO MAN SAID THE GAME IS BAD SO I THINK THE GAME IS BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>6069032
HE SAID THE F WORD AGAIN!!!!!!!!!! IT’S SO FUNNYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>6069035
DOES MIKE HAVE A BIGGER COCK THAN A NIGGER????? NO!!!!!!!!!

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>>6069038
JANNY DOESN’T THIS BALCK DICK LOOK DELICIOUS?!!!!!!

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>>6069040
SHIT DOODOO ASS PEEPEE FUCK!!!!!!!!!

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>>6069043
I NEED JAMES TO TELL ME WHAT HE THINKS OF THIS NIGGER DICK!!!!!!!!!

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>>6069045
WILL JAMES AND MIKE SUCK THIS BBC ON JAMES AND MIKE CUMDAYS??????

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>>6069046
JANNY CAN YOU HURRY UP AND DELETE THIS THREAD ALREADY MY NIGGER POSTING HAND IS GETTING TIRED!!!!!!!

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>>6069050
SIKE NO IT’S NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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JAMES SAID HE LOVES NIGGER DICKS SO I DO TOO!!!!!!!!

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>>6069057
THIS THREAD BETTER BE GONE WHEN I GET BACK JANNY!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>6068986
WHEN PEEPEE POOPOO MAN SAID DIARRHEA DOODOO SKUNK POOPIE I REALLY FELT THAT!!!!!!!!

>> No.6069072

>>6068976
I think it's less about people thinking it's difficult to have the time limit and more that it's an annoyance.

>> No.6069086

>>6069072
One of his complaints in the video was specifically about not being able to finish a dungeon because he was running out of time.

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>>6069086
ONE OF MY COMPLAINTS IS THAT I’M NOT SUCKING A BBC RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!

>> No.6069102

Avgn is allways fun

>> No.6069119

>niggerspammer gets banwiped
>thread kept up still
based mods

>> No.6069128

>>6069086
Fair enough. I thought it was an annoyance. I like being able to just relax and explore in an adventure game.

>> No.6069142

Sidequests are great
Main temples are kinda meh
never had issues with the time limits or such, and his complains about the N64 graphics and controller are stupid.

>> No.6069148

His final sentiment is fair, and I think it aligns well with people's true perceptions of the game. I mean people really only talk about the ambiance, story, and characters when they sing its praises, right...? In terms of gameplay it really isn't that amazing, though I don't remember having quite as much trouble as he did.

>> No.6069150

The clock system is the entire crux of what makes the game interesting, though. The entire game world changes and progresses, with or without you, as the days pass. Every NPC has their own life they carry out. Side quests progress with the passing of time. Without the time loop, that wouldn't be possible, or, at least, you'd have to completely restart the game just to start a new cycle.

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>>6069119
Oh you thought that would keep me down? Round two faggot!

>> No.6069152

I'm not interested in hearing Angry Video Game Nerd's thoughts on Majora's Mask to be honest with you. I still like James, but I think AVGN would have been for the best if it ended years ago. As soon as he stopped having games from his actual childhood to talk about, the tone overall changed. It could have ended right at ROB and I would have been fine.

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WILL THE RETARDED FAGGOT MODS REALIZE ECELEB CANCER IS OFF TOPIC ON THIS BOARD? OR WILL I HAVE TO SPAM NIGGER DICKS ALL NIGHT!!!!!

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>>6069006
NIGGER DICKS ARE HERE!!!!!!! BOMBS AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>6068960
WAS JAMES RIGHT TO LET HIS WIFE SUCK THIS NIGGER COCK???????

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>>6068963
IT’S A BBC!!!!!!!!

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>>6068965
THIS NIGGER DICK IS RIGHT FOR MY ASS!!!!!!!!!

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>>6068976
JUST A CASE OF WANTING TO SUCC GOOD!!!!!!!!!! BBC THAT IS!!!!!!!

>> No.6069172

>>6068960
I agree and not. I think the game would be much more fun if the time limit wasn't so tight, without a walkthrough some parts of the game can become a game of trial-and-error and it also discourages exploration of the world since you're always on a somewhat tight time limit.

Granted that might be that I like to take my time when playing a game for the first time so the time-limit really rubbed me the wrong way.

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>>6068986
THE PEEPEE POOPOO MAN SAID ASS!!!!!!! MOM COME LOOK!!!!!!!! XD!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>6069000
THIS POST IS LONGER THAN A NIGGER COCK AND THAT’S SAYING SOMETHING!!!!!! DIDN’T READ LOL!!!!!!!!!

>> No.6069179 [DELETED] 

>>6069151
>>6069159
>>6069162
>>6069163
>>6069165
>>6069168
>>6069170
>>6069175
Literally kill yourself, you faggot

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>>6069001
THIS NIGGER COCK SEEMS FINE TO ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>6069179
HOW ABOUT I POST NIGGER COCKS IN THIS THREAD INSTEAD???????

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TELL ME JANNY, WHAT DOES AN ECELEB FAGGOT HAVE TO DO WITH RETRO GAMING???? ANSWER: NIGGER DICKS, THAT’S WHAT!!!!!!!!

>> No.6069190

This is 4chan. Most of us have been forced to look at pictures of children getting raped to death at one point or another. You think THIS isn't something our eyes don't just glaze over while browsing comments?

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>>6069026
I LOVE WHEN THE PEEPEE POOPOO MAN SAYS A BAD WORD!!!!!!! LIKE SHIT OR FUCK!!!!!!!!!! IT’S SO FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>6069190
GUESS THERE’S NO REASON TO STOP THEN!!!!!! HAVE ANOTHER NIGGER DICK TO NOT LOOK AT!!!!!!!

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>>6068980
>WHEN THE WHINY FAGGOT BEGS FOR BBC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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JANNY!!!!! I WASN’T DONE YET!!!!!!!!!!

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>>6069204
ROUND THREE NIGGERS!!!!!!!!!!

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>>6069206
YOU’LL NEVER WIN!!!!!!

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>>6069208
DEATH TO ECELEB THREADS!!!!!!!

>> No.6069212 [DELETED] 

>>6069151
I'm glad you're back. Stay seething that you can't do anything about this thread being up, gay porn watching cucked bitch.

>> No.6069217 [DELETED] 

>>6068986
PEEPEE POOPOO MAN!!!!!!

>> No.6069219 [DELETED] 

>>6069190
PEEPEE POOPOO DIARRHEA POOPIE!!!!!!!!!

>> No.6069220

I just wish you got out of the town before the clock shit started up. I'm trying to find out where I am and what's going on by talking to everyone and by the time I finally find all the kids through the muddy graphics the world had ended.

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>>6069119
AND HE JUST KEEPS COMING BACK!!!!!! WHEN WILL JANNY LEARN?????? MAYBE OFF TOPIC THREADS SHOULD BE DELETED!!!!!!!!

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>>6069221

>> No.6069224 [DELETED] 

>>6069221
You can't do shit. Keep spamming your shit tier fetish, though, while I enjoy how having this thread here makes you SEETHE.

>> No.6069226

>>6069128
>I like being able to just relax and explore in an adventure game.

I agree with this. I've always thought that if I made a game it would alternate nutcrunchingly hard parts with relaxing open areas

>> No.6069227

>REEE I JUST WANT TO WATCH THIS MOVIE

>> No.6069228 [DELETED] 

>>6069226
PEEPEE POOPOO!!!!!!

>> No.6069231 [DELETED] 

JANNY GOTTA SLEEP SOMETIME!!!!!!

>> No.6069232

>>6069220
It took you the better part of an hour just to find the kids? Seriously?

>> No.6069235 [DELETED] 

>>6068960
I THINK JAMES PEEPEEPOOPOO!!!!!!

>> No.6069238 [DELETED] 

>>6068986
HE’S ABSOLUTELY PEEPEEPOOPOO!!!!!!!

>> No.6069240

>>6068963
This. It's ugly, and looks and plays like a mid tier rom hack. The dungeons are uninspired. It's also the point in the franchise where Zelda games irrevocably tipped into anime garbage bullshit.

OoT was the absolute peak of the franchise.

>> No.6069241 [DELETED] 

Hi gents, new to this thread. Anyone think James is Peepee Poopoo?

>> No.6069242

I posted this in another thread earlier today on /v/ but it’s still relevant.

Majoras mask was extremely derisive upon release and has always had two camps of people, one who thinks it’s simply a quick rehash of the first game, and the latter camp who can appreciate the game for what it’s accomplishes. I played through Majoras Mask when I was 9 years old, pretty much the last year of my life where I had that sense of awe and wonder that seeing new sights and sounds could impress upon you before you started to wise up and grow up.

If you grew up outside of the console war areas, aka you were born past 1999, and/or you were already past the age of 10, it’s highly likely you disregard(ed) Majoras Mask.

As for WHY I love Majoras Mask so much, and why it’s my favourite game of all tine, well, having the rose tinted goggles on at all times and viewing the game at the last time of my life I was really happy certainly helps, but I think the way the story is told, the intimate conversations you can have with the townsfolk of their impending doom and the moody atmosphere just propels it to a game of significant importance for me. Muh atmosphere and muh storytelling yeah it’s the same old argument but if you don’t “get it” you probably never will.

I do respect anyone’s opinion that it’s not a good game. Over the years I’ve come to realize that no matter how well implemented and innovative the time travel/save system was done, it’s just hard to get used to and sticks out like a sore thumb in context of the rest of the Zelda series. It feels off. You can’t deny that it was really clever how they implemented and it’d a miracle that the game is as good as it is despite the rushed development period of it.

I play and beat this game every single year and I’m 29 now so I’ve probably played and beat Majoras Mask about 40 times now.

>> No.6069243 [DELETED] 

>>6069241
Yes, James is quite Peepee Poopoo in my opinion.

>> No.6069245

Bless the mod deleting the underage /b/tard shitposting.
Do anyone know about the supposed mm3d romhack that fixes the unnecessary changes?

>> No.6069246

>James
JAAAAMES! The car's parked in the city square! The top floor! Building at point A0063! He's there! Go James...

>> No.6069248

Also, I don’t need to watch the AVGN video to know he has nothing new or original to talk about the game. He should have taken a serious and genuine approach to the game as James Rolfe. It’s weird how he’s been doing videos on good games instead of bad ones. Also goes without saying all of his new videos are incredibly cringe and forced and have no natural flow to the script. I highly suspect the older episodes worked so well because Mike had a huge hand in the scripts.

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>>6069102
I think AVGN is Peepee Poopoo.

>> No.6069251 [DELETED] 

>>6069119
Based Peepee Poopoo

>> No.6069253 [DELETED] 

>>6069248
I don’t need to watch AVGN to know he’s Peepee Poopoo.

>> No.6069258 [DELETED] 

>>6069245
I was just watching AVGN’s new video, and I think it’s Peepee Poopoo.

>> No.6069259 [DELETED] 

>>6069152
I’m not interested in Jamee’s videos either, he’s Peepee Poopoo.

>> No.6069262 [DELETED] 

>>6069148
I think it’s also fair to say he’s Peepee Poopoo.

>> No.6069264 [DELETED] 

When James said “diarrhea doodoo” I thought that was hilarious.

>> No.6069268 [DELETED] 

>>6069264
I did not find it funny actually. I think James is Peepee Poopoo.

>> No.6069271 [DELETED] 

>>6069259
I’m not even sure when the last time he did a genuine review or retrospective video, the ones I’m most familiar with are his turtle movie reviews and his horror movie reviews which are quite good and intelligent. You’d think with all the cinematic scenes and the (kind of?) a horror vibe from the game he’d have taken the game seriously instead of subjecting it to another really inane nerd video. I did skim through some of it and it was just as cringe at times as his last few videos. The man is completely used up and washed up and he’s not funny or amusing anymore.

>> No.6069276 [DELETED] 

I think James’s videos are Peepee Poopoo.

>> No.6069280

The video was a very fair assessment of a game known more for its atmosphere than its gameplay.

>> No.6069283 [DELETED] 

>>6069280
I think the video was Peepee Poopoo.

>> No.6069297

>>6069152
No one asked.

>> No.6069326

>>6069072
I kind of get that, but it's also that kind of attitude that makes game series stagnate, because whenever they try to introduce something new or interesting gameplya-wise it gets shot down.

In Majora's Mask specifically the time system works. It's supposed to give you a feeling of steadily building dread. By adding something relatively simple as a 3-day limit, you feel more connected to the world and, more importantly, what threatens it. Most Zelda games don't really feel like there's a world-threatening problem that has to be solved, and Majora's Mask does.

It has its downsides, particularly late in the game when you're trying to do sidequests and have to get to specific parts of the timeline, and the time manipulation songs still make the process feel like a hassle, but all in all the final product is worth it, as it's one of few 3D Zelda games that's both good and doesn't feel like 'a previous game, but more of it', like eg Twilight Princess.

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Heh, you thought I was gone?

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>needed a strategy guide to beat MM
>didnt know how to hookshot onto turtle
>cant make simple straight jumps
>needed mike to help him beat game
>is balding
>recorded the episode onto DVDs instead of HDD
>chases the only chasable NPC so hes stuck near another NPC
>its too hard to talk to NPCs
>left his N64 on overnight because he didnt want to restart the 3 day cycle
>actually uses the bank
>cant beat a dungeon within 3 hours
>too dumb to roll around the field with goron to farm items

yea hes retarded

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>>6069327

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>>6069331

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>>6069330
>>6069331
>>6069334

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>>6069330
*yawn*
post cp if you're really trying to upset people.

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>>6069334

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>>6069338
*moans* How about a fat nigger cock instead?

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>>6069341
>>6069343

>> No.6069347

>>6068976
>>6068980
This, OP and fp are butt-ugly faggots.

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>>6069345

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>>6069345
put me in the epic screencap

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>>6069349

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>>6069350
You got it!

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>>6069354

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>>6069357

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>>6069359

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Off topic eceleb cancer must be wiped off this board

>> No.6069363

>>6069240
>Hates MM
>Like OOT
lel wut? If one is shit the other is too.

>> No.6069365

>>6068960
>bad at game
>no, it's the game that's bad

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Off topic eceleb cancer must be wiped off this board

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>>6069380
Off topic eceleb cancer must be wiped off this board