/vr/ - Retro Games

The one that comes with the system I'm playing

>>6064909
I bought an 8bitdo and I like it. It's good for Platformers and basic sidescrollers RPG'S etc. It feels retro but I do agree the diagonals are not the best for other games.

>>6064909
best is to get an original controller and an adapter if you can. otherwise i find ps2 controllers to be pretty good, ps3 is still ok but i don't like the triggers as much. most reproduction controllers have issues and don't seem worth it.

>>6064909
I got the sn30pro and it works fine. Haven't had the diagonal issue, probably because I have the game boy one instead of the original, but I did wear the dpad down to complete shit after a year. Replaced the rubbers and put a couple donut stickers on for good measure and it's good for another couple years. Only truly bad thing for me is the thin shoulder buttons, they're not as unusable as they look and you won't even notice it most of the time. Problem is when you need to use all four shoulder buttons you notice it far too well.
Pokken controller has very good quality buttons but it's got a weird holding angle because of the handles going straight down and the shoulders are actually too big to be used well enough. They also have these big open gaps underneath that just lets dust, dirt, lint, and anything else seep into the internals. Funny enough, the dpad on it actually tends to have the same diagonal issues that 8bitdo controllers are known for having.

>>6064945
I do have a DS3 I'm thinking of using. The buttons all feel like cheap, mushy shit, but at least the d-pad inputs are dead-on. I've heard DS4s feel a lot better.

>>6064981
>Funny enough, the dpad on it actually tends to have the same diagonal issues that 8bitdo controllers are known for having.
For fuck's sake, why is it so hard to find a modern controller with a decent d-pad? Switch Pro controllers are also notorious for this shit.

I mean, I have heard here and there that the modern 8bitdos controllers have rectified the issue, but I'm still a little skeptical to go with them, especially since I let a lot of people convince me that the diagonal problem on the older models wasn't that bad in the first place. I did the paper donut fix on mine, but even with that, if you aren't really square on with your press, you're almost certainly going to register an up or down input. I'm guessing a lot of people just happen to play games where misfired diagonals aren't a problem. It's such a shame, because the controller feels great otherwise.

Anyway, thanks for the input on the Pokken controller.

Pokken controller is my favorite controller on any system. A combination of this and a good arcade stick, and I don't need anything else.

>>6064909
I have an iBuffalo SNES gamepad, Xbox One controller, a generic usb nes controller, and a Retrobit N64. Without a doubt I use the SNES pad the most.

>>6064909
The correct one. Why aren't you doing this?

>>6064981
Speaking of Hori, is the fighting commander any good?

>>6065182
Fucking loved mine, feels good to play and if you flick the switch on the top you can do a proper 6 face button + 4 shoulder button setup. Unfortunately my square button gave out after a year of playing, mind you I played the fucker almost every day and did a lot of button tapping.
If you can get it cheap, it's worth it while it lasts.

>>6065191
>Fucking loved mine
>Unfortunately my square button gave out after a year of playing
Are you me?

My problem with most controllers is that I wanted one that worked for both retro and PS1 emulation. I know PS1 IS retro but I mean something with a good d-pad, good analog sticks AND 4 shoulder buttons.

>>6065327
I don't think so, anon.

>>6065337
I don't trust Razer products.

>>6065182
There may be a better, more expensive, or obscure choice. I don’t know. But if you want a cheap, good controller that amazon can deliver in less than 24 hours... Boom. This is it.

That 8bitdo shit is for placing next to your Yoshi and Luigi plushies.

>>6064909
You sound mentally disabled. You should ask your handler before you go on the internet, anon.

>>6065026
>misfired diagonals
you have cerebral palsy, nobody considers this a real problem. it's an advantage to have loose diagonals

I use 8BitDo M30 2.4G and the bluetoth variant one. Best pads i ever had.

For emulation, this is the one for me. D-pad is great, you can use special drivers to make it act like a xbox360 controller and thus it works with everything you can imagine.

I think the ideal though is just using the original controllers+adapters.

>>6065635
forgot pic

>>6065385
>>6065527
>having a controller with janky, less precise, unintended inputs is actually a GOOD thing!
lmao whatever you say samefag

if you think this is acceptable:
https://youtu.be/0BjSVwHB2kw?t=210
https://youtu.be/h4fWGwdGrpM?t=64
you're a genetic reject that deserves to be gassed

(also the fact that there is a SLEW of videos and discussions about people unhappy with the 8bitdo/switch pro's fucked dpad and how to fix it should tell you something)

but hey, keep using trash controllers if you want

>>6064909

There's like 4 different saturn/6-button-Genesis USB controllers out there from different makers like retroflag, 8bitdo and retrobit... which one is the best/feels best or most accurate?

>>6067541
I also want to know this. I think a wireless one with analogs would be fairly suitable for me, but I worry about the quality on them.

>>6067541
retrobit saturn

>>6064909
>wips out this bad boy
this is the best controller.. like ever.

>>6064909
>>6069794
the question should be, what controller is best for the job.

>>6069834
>>6069794
>forgot pic
the question should be, what controller is best for the job.

Wii classic controller pro with a mayflash adapter for emulation.

For MiSTerfags: what is the situation for serial-based controllers? I don't mean adapters for older console controllers, I mean modern ones that offer that same low latency.

Specifically, is there anyway to get an arcade stick that connects by BliSS serial port? Forgive me if my terminology is messed up, I only started looking into building a MiSTer recently.

ps3 controller for emulation. I would totally love to use an original ps1 controller on my pc tho

Im using a Xbox One controller mainly because its the only one that seems to reliably and effortlessly connect to my chromebook via Bluetooth. I do all my emulation on it and stream steam to it from my desktop. I can pretty much play everything I have while sitting on my couch if I want.

I wouldnt say its the best controller ever but its more than adequate.

I wanted a steam controller for this but I hesitated because I'm retarded and they sold out before I pulled the trigger. I bet they are already price gouging them on eBay.

>>6067482
Not only is the D-pad shitty, but it's also in the shitty Xbox zoomer layout that makes it inconvenient to use.

>>6064909
i use 8bitdo sn30 pro+ and the d-pad seems real good.
i overall dislike the controller desu, but was really good for kaizo mario romhacks

Logitech Dual Action - Cheap and good. Use it on Raspberry Pi for all systems. No problems.
But because N64 emulation is crap, and N64 controllers are crap, I use a Retro Fighters Brawler on a real N64.

For me its a mix between an arcade stick (MAME) and an xbox one controller (Console Emulation)

>>6069837
Gebaseerde Vlaam Belang stemmer

>>6071324
Looks like a regular cheap dualshock. Why not just use the DS4? It has improvements over all previous versions.

>>6070087
Most modern higher end mobos still have a serial header. You just need a break out cable.

>>6067541
Got the Retrobit Genesis 6 button on the cheap just for Sonic Mania. The d-pad does feel pretty close to the original. Only issues I have are issues the original also has. (Feels a little light, buttons can be loud)

>>6064909
Using the same one, but the wii u white model, it's build like a tank, really good dpad, super confortable to hold, and L and R are actually nice to push and NOT shitty like the ps2 ones....

M30 is really nice as well

>>6070540
I also have this controller and I love it. THe D-Pad is kind of 'stiff' in my opinion but I have only used it for maybe 15 hours total and even my unused SNES controller still has a stiff D-pad but I'm used to my super worn in D-pad on my main SNES controller so that's probably why they feel so stiff to me.

If you have the 8bitdo and use it on your Switch make sure you download the new update the eliminate LAG when using more than one controller (Including JOycons)

>>6069837
Fuck Flanders

>>6069794
Someone else just got their 5 dollar controller I see. Not going to even pretend I don't love mine, but is anyone here seriously using it for 2D gaming? Is that Dpad something to get used to or is it just not ideal for sidescrollers at all?

>>6071495

This, DS4 is basically the best choice controller for mixed use (retro/modern gaming) and my first choice for retro gaming (even though I don't use sticks while playing retro). Very comfortable and well build piece of hardware.

>>6071324
I have the Logitech F310, with appears to be the same thing but with X360 buttons where that has numbered buttons.
It's shit.

>>6064909
>>6071779
If ZL and ZR were on the shoulders instead of next to Start and Select it would be a perfect controller.

>>6070007

>>6071823
It's kind of funny how 8bitdo's flagship controller has gone through the full evolution of the Playstation controller's design, starting with a SNES controller and ending up with analog sticks, grips and two extra shoulder buttons.

Was this thing ever any good? Always wondered about it but just used a cube controller for the Wii.

>>6071495
Mostly because I also use this for PS3, and I just prefer wired controllers. No recharging in the middle of play sessions, or having the cable disconnect from the controller.
Was pretty disappointed when PS4 had no support for generic USB controllers.
Other wise the DS4 is fine, but I only use it for PS4.

Still waiting for this to be released

>>6071880
The gyro shit makes it heavy for no good reason since you won't ever use it for retro, also, the front light is annoying and the battery life is crap.

DS3 is better, it's a shame you can't get new ones any more, all the "NEW LEGIT" ones in eBay are just shitty chink bootlegs.

>>6073057
The dualshock 3 has the exact same 'gyro shit'. Remember, the DS3 was preceded by the Sixaxis, the controller that brought wagglan to Playstation.

>>6073073
I don't know what all the extra stuff is on the DS4 then, but the DS3 is considerably lighter.

the pokken controller is utter garbage. if you like it, please mention it to people as soon as you meet them, so they know to discount everything you say.

>>6072376
That one was a piece of shit, in fact all of nyko's wii accessories were except for the gun

>>6073129
t. basedthumbs

>>6071779
ZL and ZR next to start and select

WHAT WERE THEY THINKING

>>6073057
I wish the analog sticks on the fakes were good. The rest is passable. The sticks are garbage.

>>6073302
that they aren't used most of the time and just need to be somewhere for compatibility. mind it was made for a single game.

>>6064981
I got the euro snes version of this and can't recommend it enough, even use it with modern games sometimes. Perfect balance between comfort, convenience and retro feel (personally prefer the d-pad to the stiff original SNES one).

>>6069794
>>6071879
I'm honestly still surprised how comfy it is; I use it for all 3D PC games now and would love to use it with consoles as well. Could not imagine using it for any 2D games though, that's simply not what it's made for. Except maybe SNES SimCity lmao

>>6073057
>>6073075
The DS4 is only 18g heavier than the DS3, which is probably attributable to its larger battery and higher quality plastic.

Anyone here tried to make an IR receiver for PC so you could use the official wireless Mega Drive pads with emulators?
Seems like a fairly easy project with something like an Arduino

>>6065076

>>6070097
should've got a ps classic

>>6071880
But do they make a wired DS4?

>>6065337
why the FUCK are circle and square the wrong colors

>>6073613
You can connect a DS4 to your PC via USB, just like the DS3.

>>6073057

>DS3 is better.

Not when your hands are even slightly bigger than average. My hands are not small and DS3 just feels bad. DS4 is better in terms of basically everything, but most important thing is shape. Also if you don't like the light you can disconnect it, it's on connector, not soldered to the board. And I won't even comment on 18 grams of extra weight and battery life because that's just a silly thing.

>>6073057
>heavy
Eat your spinach.

I started using the Hori Pokken controller on the Switch for games where analog isn't required and, although I love the Switch Pro controller, the d-pad is awful. Just try playing Tetris or, hell, using the system's input test, and you'll see how many false and/or missed inputs with the Switch Pro. The Hori controller, on the other hand, registers every d-pad input perfectly every time and is comfy.

Started using it for emulating games and it's ideal. Highly highly recommended if you are attempting to play 2D/retro games and can use a USB input

This one

>>6065076
>>6065182
>>6067441
>>6071779
All dog shit. Analog controllers are a prerequisite if you want to get into the MAME catalog. I mean, how the fuck are you going to play Robotron properly without dual sticks?

>>6073545
>6 face buttons
Why aren't there more controllers like this?

>>6075442
It's pretty awkward for any game that isn't a fighter or Genesis/Saturn exclusive.

>>6075442
Microsoft's holding everyone hostage with XInput, so you can't add any extra buttons or else they won't be supported in games. The two extra face buttons would have to just be mirrors of LB and RB or other existing buttons.

This.

>>6075442
Although I do feel like it could have had six face buttons.

>>6075442
How many games even make use of 6 face buttons?

>>6075421
All dog shit. Analog controllers are a prerequisite if you want to get into the MAME catalog.
I mean, I'm sure almost everybody already owns a controller with analog sticks in the first place. It's not unreasonable to have another controller with a focus on having a good d-pad and maybe 6 buttons for playing things like platformers or fighting games. Besides, if you wanna get real elitist about it, you should buy an arcade stick for MAME titles.

>>6075421
>All dog shit. Analog controllers are a prerequisite if you want to get into the MAME catalog.
I mean, I'm sure almost everybody already owns a controller with analog sticks in the first place. It's not unreasonable to have another controller with a focus on having a good d-pad and maybe 6 buttons for playing things like platformers or fighting games. Besides, if you wanna get real elitist about it, you should buy an arcade stick for MAME titles.

>>6075482
Some Namco polygon racer did, I think. Might have been one of the Winning Run games. I think some other old racers did, too.

>>6075482
Most don't, but I could use some extra for one or two things.
With added drivers it shouldn't be a problem.

>>6071823
I wish it had a smooth clicky dpad like the Xbox one

>>6075572
>It's not unreasonable to have another controller with a focus on having a good d-pad and maybe 6 buttons (on the pad face)
Those already exist - WITH analog control. You're buying things you don't need.

>>6077694
>You're buying things you don't need.
And what if somebody doesn't need or want a controller with analog sticks?

I understand where you're coming from, but all I'm saying is that most people probably already own a controller with analog sticks, so it's not a huge stretch to buy a controller that lacks them for a certain subset of games. For instance, most people already own a 360 controller for general usage, but it has a really shitty d-pad, so they might be inclined to buy something specifically for games that make heavy use of the d-pad, just like fighting game enthusiasts might be inclined to purchase an arcade stick specifically for their niche use.

While yes, you -could- get a controller that has a good d-pad AND analog sticks, and all the other gubbins, if you already have a controller with analog sticks, what's the point? There are some minor reasons you might not want to, such as extra cost and/or clutter for a feature you don't need, limiting your overall selection of controllers, or desiring a form factor of controller where analog sticks just don't fit very well (for instance, if you want a SNES controller, 8bitdo has offerings with analog sticks, but some people complain they're uncomfortable to use without grips, but once you add grips, the controller ceases to have a true SNES form factor).

Of course, yes, if you're going to buy one general purpose controller for absolutely everything, it should absolutely have analog sticks. But I don't think anybody is really going to argue with you on that point.

>>6075467
Doubling up the stick buttons would be a fairly sensible way to go about it.

>>6075467
So literally like everyone has been doing it for ages? The horror!